phil1336 0 Posted March 1, 2010 Plus like my husband said, if you buy a Hyundai, you will miss out on all of those great trips to the dealership waiting for your recalls to be fixed, you won't have that plain as vanilla styling, etc. I just think the Toyota wins dollar for dollar. Not necessarily car for car. If you want to want to add in subjective values like looks, comfort, and amenities that is a whole different argument. OK, Case Closed on this one! On a non automobile matter, boy do I miss Texas BBQ! Even with the Lap Band, moderate amounts of lean Protein are ok! I miss the epicenter of BBQ or what I call the BBQ Triangle. Put a dart in Austin and drive in almost any directions up to 75 miles and your in BBQ Heaven. Luling, Lockhart, Taylor, Elgin, boy I miss those Links and Brisket. Memphis has great Pork BBQ, and Kansas City has Great Pork & Beef BBQ, and Metro Austin has the Best BBQ (IMO) Period! Just (1) pint of cold beer to slowly sip down with my Que......mmmm! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nycfw 1 Posted March 1, 2010 I still think toyota is the best car maker but they f'd up big time letting india build their cars they should have never touch what wasn't broken, every car is great when brand new (not ford) but its when you hit that 2,3 yr mark when american cars goes down hill. American car maker no longer have that pride to make great cars anymore, they need the economy to keep moving so they make these bullshyt cars and push push push the leasing option on you, so you can be stuck with he for 3yrs and then bring it back for another one cause now its breaking down. To me leasing its just like your throwing your money away, why is so hard to push financing on someone then a lease, or why even push hard the leasing option, Some cars when your lease is up you already paid 6000$ and now what well now you still need a car and after 6000$ paid you don't have car now you got to lease another car and do it all over again Hydaui is good brand new but never used Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeighaMason 19 Posted March 1, 2010 We live 30 miles from Country Tavern, rumored to have the best ribs in Texas. Plus have you seen scottyd's photos? (he has a BBQ joint) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phil1336 0 Posted March 1, 2010 I still think toyota is the best car maker but they f'd up big time letting india build their cars they should have never touch what wasn't broken, every car is great when brand new (not ford) but its when you hit that 2,3 yr mark when american cars goes down hill. American car maker no longer have that pride to make great cars anymore, they need the economy to keep moving so they make these bullshyt cars and push push push the leasing option on you, so you can be stuck with he for 3yrs and then bring it back for another one cause now its breaking down. To me leasing its just like your throwing your money away, why is so hard to push financing on someone then a lease, or why even push hard the leasing option, Some cars when your lease is up you already paid 6000$ and now what well now you still need a car and after 6000$ paid you don't have car now you got to lease another car and do it all over again Hydaui is good brand new but never used Why you so tough on Ford? They are the (only) US Automaker that did`nt go bankrupt and ask for taxpayers money for a Bail Out! Quality of NEW Ford products are as good or BETTER then any other brand. JD Powers Quality Surveys and Consumer Reports prove it. Ford fusion (especially Hybrid) leads all! New Ford Fiesta coming out this summer, (best selling car in Europe-Australia-China), will be huge success! You should have bought Ford stock last year at $3.00@ share. Heading for $14.00 any day now! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waynooo 1 Posted March 1, 2010 One correction to your original post. Ford did not take the bail out money, that would be G.M. ( Governement Motors). I also think that we should be supporting made in America vehicles. While Toyota, Nissan, and Honda's are good my fellow American is worth more to me than a car. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phil1336 0 Posted March 1, 2010 The so called FU you speak about had (NOTHING) to do with Toyota building cars in India...duh! The problems were Toyota`s built in Japan and Georgetown, Kentucky with parts made by a USA Vendor to Toyota`s specifications! What the hell does India have to do with all of Toyota`s recent problems? Face it, Toyota admitted to letting its quality control take a shitter....period! If you "Love" Toyota, fine.....I have no problem with that. Don`t start dragging all this unrelated crap into the Toyota thread! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phil1336 0 Posted March 1, 2010 One correction to your original post. Ford did not take the bail out money, that would be G.M. ( Governement Motors). I also think that we should be supporting made in America vehicles. While Toyota, Nissan, and Honda's are good my fellow American is worth more to me than a car. Its not as easy as Buy American anymore. Even Ford builds over half its "American" cars in either Canada or Mexico with parts supplied by vendors from all over. The old days of Buy American Cars where (all) the cars were built and assembled right here in the USA are gone. Remember the Pontiac GTO that was re-introduced and sold by GM here a few years ago? Buy American? Entire production of North American Pontiac GTO were built and assembled in Australia an shipped over to USA. What was American about that except for some profits to GM before it went bankrupt. The UAW workers did`nt build or profit from those cars being manufactured over in Australia! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nycfw 1 Posted March 1, 2010 The so called FU you speak about had (NOTHING) to do with Toyota building cars in India...duh! The problems were Toyota`s built in Japan and Georgetown, Kentucky with parts made by a USA Vendor to Toyota`s specifications! What the hell does India have to do with all of Toyota`s recent problems? Face it, Toyota admitted to letting its quality control take a shitter....period! If you "Love" Toyota, fine.....I have no problem with that. Don`t start dragging all this unrelated crap into the Toyota thread! For one thing buddy if you look at the first post I made (since I started this thread) you will see why I don't like ford and a second you need to reread, where did I said ford made toyota go to india? Lol did I offend. your little interpation is way off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phil1336 0 Posted March 1, 2010 For one thing buddy if you look at the first post I made (since I started this thread) you will see why I don't like ford and a second you need to reread, where did I said ford made toyota go to india? Lol did I offend. your little interpation is way off. Opps, sorry..its your thread and I`ll leave! I never argue about religion or politics and it appears Toyota is another I will add to my list! LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nycfw 1 Posted March 1, 2010 Like I said I do not like ford due to own problems I experience with a brand new one. I THINk toyotas are great cars do I drive one no I stick with nissan like they pay my bills lol I see old running toyotas just running with no problems how man old "hyundi" you still see chugging along none. Toyota great car maker end of story NEXT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nycfw 1 Posted March 1, 2010 One correction to your original post. Ford did not take the bail out money, that would be G.M. ( Governement Motors). I also think that we should be supporting made in America vehicles. While Toyota, Nissan, and Honda's are good my fellow American is worth more to me than a car. My bad I relize that the next day.. I wouldn't mind American cars if it wasn't such a headache, I don't have time always running back to the dealership to have it repair or have a leak fix so on and so fourth. If they had something stating that for the next ten years we fix all problems free of charge (no including recalls, its already free) then I might. Like right now I like that 2011 Buick lacrosse but I can't bring my self to buy it even though I know any brand new car will be good, but when I buy a car I buy it outright so I can be stuck with a car that is going to give me problems after 3 4 yrs . So I just stick with my maxima and call it a day Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nycfw 1 Posted March 1, 2010 Opps, sorry..its your thread and I`ll leave! I never argue about religion or politics and it appears Toyota is another I will add to my list! LOL If proven a point or trying to prove is an arguement then I guess I argue everyday lol U had great points Well bye bye have a great day buddy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phil1336 0 Posted March 1, 2010 Like I said I do not like ford due to own problems I experience with a brand new one. I THINk toyotas are great cars do I drive one no I stick with nissan like they pay my bills lol I see old running toyotas just running with no problems how man old "hyundi" you still see chugging along none. Toyota great car maker end of story NEXT Guess I can`t argue with your "logic"! Anyone can have the miss fortune of Buying a Lemon from "any" car manufacturer! Despite your bad experience with your Ford product, many folks are very happy with Ford cars and trucks! As to your (worship) at the "Thrown of Toyota", I see there`s a reason for such devotion. I live here in SO Florida, home to over 500,000 illegal Haitians and 99% of them are driving 15 to 20 year old beat up Toyota Camry`s and Corolla`s. They all can`t be wrong! LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nycfw 1 Posted March 1, 2010 I bet where your @ is going to get even more illegals now since their earthquake yikes lol Yup all illegals know great running cars like all the illegal spanish people in in my town they all drive beat up old honda, toyotas they can be bog down with cars that going to break down they need a car that can outstand the weight of 10 people in a car lol and so far I see honda wins that over here. Hey I never had any problems with them toyotas so they have my devotions. My fiance and I argue about my car he wanted me to get another ford truck and I completly refuse and now he brought a ford truck so he loves their truck but for the past couple of days I see him and his guy friends keep looking @ it looking under the hood and when I ask what's up he say oh we are just amazed with this truck but I know something is wrong with it but when you have strong devotion to something you can't see anything wrong with it so oh well lol You have you "logic" and I have mines Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nycfw 1 Posted March 1, 2010 Sorry for some misspelled words people just typing fast on a subway squish between people who are morally oppose to a shower Share this post Link to post Share on other sites