Conservative VS Liberal

[pattygreen 5]

Planted? You actually think the left went out and made up those videos on you tube? There are hundreds of videos about the teabaggers going bizerck on camera. Take a good look at any 5 videos from the poster NewLeftMedia and see what is being said. Dude on camera asks them the simple question and either they can't answer it, go off on a rant, or they are calling our president an extremist, which is straight wacky. Case in point, the retard Brown from the Katrina bungle. He got on the real comedy central, Fake Noise and said Obama wanted the leak in the ocean, that he planned it. Smart folks need to run away from loons like that, but Faux Newz audeince won't since they have been hoodwinked by the right propaganda machine. Point is, nobody is forcing the tea baggers to say the crap they are on camera. I am not call ing all teabaggers morons but the ones on camera talking are category 5's. And the left is not making this crap up. Fake Noise seems to cast a beam of idiocy over people with low research skills and fairy tale mentalities. Oh.. then I guess I am calling them morons. Those that take Fake Noise as a legitimate news source that is.

Anyone who calls someone a 'retard' is just as horrible as anyone who calls someone a racial slur. You are no better than those you criticize!

Edited May 10, 2010 by pattygreen

[pattygreen 5]

Most of the mortgage lending sins were motivated by zealous liberal legislators who thought everyone deserves a mortgage regardless of their economic circumstances. I blame them.

[pattygreen 5]

Obama managed to double the federal budget from $2 trillion to around $4 trillion in just 15 months! Cap and trade looms upon us. The HC bill came back with a figure of $800 billion, and a week after it passed we found out it would cost $1.2 trillion. That's a difference of $4 billion dollars This bill is going to kill an economy that is just beginning to rally. We need to repeal it!

Obama running his mouth about how illegal the Arizona law is, when it is basically word for word the federal law. That Arizona law reinforces the federal law, which congress doesn't have the guts to enforce, yet the liberals are going around yelling their only defense: "racial profiling". Congress is too busy telling us how much salt we should be allowed to have in our diets to protect it's citizens from a war zone between the drug dealers and coyotes bringing illegal aliens across the border, shooting, killing and kidnapping each other. The gov. is NOT protecting them, which is their primary job. Have you noticed the almost complete lack of coverage by the liberal media of the rioting and violent demonstrations going on around the country? The same media that called the tea party demonstrations violent and racist because they hold up signs demanding less government and lower taxes.It's hilarious listening to Attorney General Eric Holder run his mouth about investigating this law, when he is the one who dropped charges against the Black Panthers for actually stopping people from voting by violent means. But you can be sure that Obama will do nothing about the illegal immigrants coming into this country, except for being able to get them legal status here, cause he desires their vote in a few years from now.

[tdslf1 0]

Anyone who calls someone a 'retard' is just as horrible as anyone who calls someone a racial slur. You are no better than those you criticize!

Don't give me your politically correct crap. You and the tea baggers have no porblem calling Obama a radical, terrorist, terrorist sympathizer, alien, foreign, illegitimate president and all sorts of names and yet you get bothered by me calling Brown and idiot retard? Why should that bother you, I'm not talking about you, thus I can say it. I respect you enough not to call YOU names. If they can call my president an illegitimate citizen, then I can call them what I want.

[Cleo's Mom 257]

Anyone who calls someone a 'retard' is just as horrible as anyone who calls someone a racial slur. You are no better than those you criticize!

Don't give me your politically correct crap. You and the tea baggers have no porblem calling Obama a radical, terrorist, terrorist sympathizer, alien, foreign, illegitimate president and all sorts of names and yet you get bothered by me calling Brown and idiot retard? Why should that bother you, I'm not talking about you, thus I can say it. I respect you enough not to call YOU names. If they can call my president an illegitimate citizen, then I can call them what I want.

You left out nazi, muslim, communist, socialist. And by the way, the defacto head of the GOP - rush limbaugh uses the term retarded all the time.

[pattygreen 5]

Anyone who calls someone a 'retard' is just as horrible as anyone who calls someone a racial slur. You are no better than those you criticize!

Don't give me your politically correct crap. You and the tea baggers have no porblem calling Obama a radical, terrorist, terrorist sympathizer, alien, foreign, illegitimate president and all sorts of names and yet you get bothered by me calling Brown and idiot retard? Why should that bother you, I'm not talking about you, thus I can say it. I respect you enough not to call YOU names. If they can call my president an illegitimate citizen, then I can call them what I want.

I'm never politically correct. But you were upset with the tea partiers for calling Obama racist names, yet you call republicans retards. That name offends people with mentally challenged children, just as much as the N word offends people with black skin. I'm just pointing out your hypocrisy.:biggrin:

[Cleo's Mom 257]

Obama managed to double the federal budget from $2 trillion to around $4 trillion in just 15 months! Cap and trade looms upon us. The HC bill came back with a figure of $800 billion, and a week after it passed we found out it would cost $1.2 trillion. That's a difference of $4 billion dollars This bill is going to kill an economy that is just beginning to rally. We need to repeal it!

Name your source for these figures for healthcare. And the economy is beginning to rally due to the economic policies of Obama and the democrats - certainly not due to the party of no.

Also, you need to move on about healthcare - it's passed, it's not going to get repealed. People are going to see more and more benefits to it as time goes on. They aren't going to take kindly to having those benefits taken away.

CBO Director 'Very Comfortable' With Health Care Cost Figures: 'I Don't Think We Were Gamed'

April 08, 2010 12:48 PM

ABC News' Rick Klein reports: With his office's work coming under unusual scrutiny in recent weeks, Congressional Budget Office Director Doug Elmendorf today defended his agency's handling of the health care law, telling reporters that he stands by the cost estimates of the Democratic-authored measures.

“I am very comfortable with the numbers we released,” Elmendorf said at a Breakfast sponsored by the Christian Science Monitor. “There are a number of people who expressed concern that we were being gamed. And I worried about that throughout the year. But I don't think we were gamed -- or at least not in the sense that people seemed to be using that word.”

The final cost estimate produced by the non-partisan CBO -- that the health care measure would cost $940 billion over 10 years, and bring down the deficit over that same time period -- helped Democrats make their final case to power the bills to passage last month.

[Cleo's Mom 257]

Most of the mortgage lending sins were motivated by zealous liberal legislators who thought everyone deserves a mortgage regardless of their economic circumstances. I blame them.

So-called liberal legislators (and btw - who were they?) do not make bank loans - bank managers do. And it is up to them to make sure that the person to whom they are lending money is a good risk. That's why they do credit checks of credit scores and ask a million questions about income, jobs, loans, etc...

[tdslf1 0]

Don't play stupid, PG. Calling someone the N word is not equal to calling some Fox Noise commentators retards. Fortunately, I am not getting caught in your obvious distraction of words. Just like a righty, throw the blame back on the left as though we started it. Your tea baggers started it, the name calling, I just happen to like finishing it. No way in hell you can make me feel guilty for calling those yahoos names.

They have no problem doing it to my side. Democrats are supposed to take the higher ground. When we come back with cheap shots like the righties, the righties cry foul on BS. I for one am not like progressive lefties in this regard. When righties throw rocks, I throw boulders. I see now that we are at war, any kind of war you like to categorize it as and I will be darned if the lefties get guilted into backing off. I'm on it like white on rice and I will stay on it as long as my president continues to get attacked by the gnomes on the right.

You get offended by me calling righties retard? I get offended when I hear my president getting called a terrorist.

Edited May 11, 2010 by tdslf1

[pattygreen 5]

Don't play stupid, PG. Calling someone the N word is not equal to calling some Fox Noise commentators retards.

Fortunately, I am not getting caught in your obvious distraction of words. Just like a righty, throw the blame back on the left as though we started it. Your tea baggers started it, the name calling, I just happen to like finishing it. No way in hell you can make me feel guilty for calling those yahoos names.

They have no problem doing it to my side. Democrats are supposed to take the higher ground. When we come back with cheap shots like the righties, the righties cry foul on BS. I for one am not like progressive lefties in this regard. When righties throw rocks, I throw boulders. I see now that we are at war, any kind of war you like to categorize it as and I will be darned if the lefties get guilted into backing off. I'm on it like white on rice and I will stay on it as long as my president continues to get attacked by the gnomes on the right.

You get offended by me calling righties retard? I get offended when I hear my president getting called a terrorist.

Yes, it is just as bad. It is an offensive name to those who are mentally challenged and their family members and friends. It is JUST as offensive as the N word to black people. Deny it if you wish, but others know better. Come on Cleo or Bjean.... Afraid to call one of yours out?

[Cleo's Mom 257]

Yes, it is just as bad. It is an offensive name to those who are mentally challenged and their family members and friends. It is JUST as offensive as the N word to black people. Deny it if you wish, but others know better. Come on Cleo or Bjean.... Afraid to call one of yours out?

I will when Palin condemns rush for using it. And I'm still waiting for your source on those healthcare cost figures.

Palin also used her platform to continue a call for the president to rid himself of his closest advisers. On Attorney General Eric Holder, she labeled his handling of captured terrorists -- "allowing them our U.S. constitutional protections when they do not deserve them" -- a firing offense. On Chief-of-Staff Rahm Emanuel, she said his comments calling liberal groups "f-ing retards" was "indecent and insensitive" and cause for his dismissal.

But the former governor went to great and sometimes awkward lengths to insist that when conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh used the same exact term to describe the same exact group, it was simply in the role of political humorist.

"They are kooks, so I agree with Rush Limbaugh," she said, when read a quote of Limbaugh calling liberal groups "retards." "Rush Limbaugh was using satire ... . I didn't hear Rush Limbaugh calling a group of people whom he did not agree with 'f-ing retards,' and we did know that Rahm Emanuel, as has been reported, did say that. There is a big difference there."

[Cleo's Mom 257]

Don't play stupid, PG. Calling someone the N word is not equal to calling some Fox Noise commentators retards. Fortunately, I am not getting caught in your obvious distraction of words. Just like a righty, throw the blame back on the left as though we started it. Your tea baggers started it, the name calling, I just happen to like finishing it. No way in hell you can make me feel guilty for calling those yahoos names.

They have no problem doing it to my side. Democrats are supposed to take the higher ground. When we come back with cheap shots like the righties, the righties cry foul on BS. I for one am not like progressive lefties in this regard. When righties throw rocks, I throw boulders. I see now that we are at war, any kind of war you like to categorize it as and I will be darned if the lefties get guilted into backing off. I'm on it like white on rice and I will stay on it as long as my president continues to get attacked by the gnomes on the right.

You get offended by me calling righties retard? I get offended when I hear my president getting called a terrorist.

Absolutely! I won't let them get away with their lies, distortions, deflections, distractions or any of their other tricks. It's a full time job, but we liberals and progressives have to do it.

[tdslf1 0]

Lets get this straight, PG. Calling commentators retards are not similiar to calling someone the N word. Why? Simply because the word retard was used to describe the handicapp many years ago which was then socially acceptable. Then it was replaced by the better term, mentally challenged and so forth. The N word can never be changed to make it sound acceptable. It has NO replacement. Retard does. Thus NO equivilent.

Now, in my book and apparently Rush Limstick and a whole host of people on both sides use that term to describe wack job commentators of which I will happily call Beck and any tea bagger that calls my president a terrorist. So, be offended by your own righties when they use it. Make them take the high road and I'll do the same when they do. I know and you know the context of this conversation. Don't get all high and mighty. Your stature is no better than mine.

[pattygreen 5]

I will when Palin condemns rush for using it. And I'm still waiting for your source on those healthcare cost figures.

Palin also used her platform to continue a call for the president to rid himself of his closest advisers. On Attorney General Eric Holder, she labeled his handling of captured terrorists -- "allowing them our U.S. constitutional protections when they do not deserve them" -- a firing offense. On Chief-of-Staff Rahm Emanuel, she said his comments calling liberal groups "f-ing retards" was "indecent and insensitive" and cause for his dismissal.

But the former governor went to great and sometimes awkward lengths to insist that when conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh used the same exact term to describe the same exact group, it was simply in the role of political humorist.

"They are kooks, so I agree with Rush Limbaugh," she said, when read a quote of Limbaugh calling liberal groups "retards." "Rush Limbaugh was using satire ... . I didn't hear Rush Limbaugh calling a group of people whom he did not agree with 'f-ing retards,' and we did know that Rahm Emanuel, as has been reported, did say that. There is a big difference there."

I have never listened to Rush Limbaugh, but even if I had, him calling someone else a retard would not be acceptable to me. Also, I could care less about what Palin considers acceptable or not. MOST people do not find Retard or Niger acceptable terms to call ANYONE. Now, you can stand with tdslf1 on that, and say those terms are just fine, as Sarah Palin did with Rush or you can admit that they are not. What will it be?

One thing I have noticed with you. Everything is okay and acceptable to you because someone on the right has done a similar thing and it was okay by the right. Don't you have your own opinion on things, or do you need to judge the acceptableness of things by what others do? Your policy: (if you can do it, so can we) 2 wrongs don't make a right.

Let me tell you, that if someone, and I don't care who it is, on the right, like a tea partier, called someone else a retard or a niger I would reprimand that person if I could. I would come right out and tell them that if they are going to offend others in that way, then they should not be associated with me. Tea partiers have always voiced that. They do NOT want anyone calling anyone derogatiry names like niger or retard. We do not advocate that or violence of any klind. If there is any form of violence or name calling, it is a select minority who are not acting as the majority would.(these are strongly opposed by the rest of us) Unlike the protesting assemblies of the democratic party of the past, which were violent and dangerous, the Tea partiers are peaceful assemblers who only voice their disapproval of the government and its policies.

[pattygreen 5]

Lets get this straight, PG. Calling commentators retards are not similiar to calling someone the N word. Why? Simply because the word retard was used to describe the handicapp many years ago which was then socially acceptable. Then it was replaced by the better term, mentally challenged and so forth. The N word can never be changed to make it sound acceptable. It has NO replacement. Retard does. Thus NO equivilent.

Origins

The origin of the word, "nigger," is in the Latin "niger," meaning "black." The word, as "niger," entered into Spanish and Portuguese. Early Modern French obtained it from Portuguese where it became "negre" and "negro," respectively. English acquired the word from French, which was manifested in earlier English variants, such as "negar," "neegar," "neger," and "niggor." "Neger" is a current word in both Dutch and German.

The word is thought to have come into its current form via the Southern pronunciation of "negro," which yielded phonetic mistranscriptions as "nigra." For much of its history, until the early 20th Century in America, it was simply descriptive ("nigger" meaning "Black American" in an informal, esp. Southern sense [bi-racially]), and occasioned little controversy among speakers of any ethnicity, save occasional annoyance. It later became symbolic of racial prejudice and racist laws (and lynchings) against Blacks in the American South, and began to symbolize a mindset by which, through easy use of such terms as "nigger," White interests mobilized against African Americans.

So, you see, Niger wasn't always a racial slur. It was a word which meant 'black'. Now it is a racial slur. An offense to people. Retard was not an offensive word to people at one time. Now it is. So stop using it, and trying to justify your using it! You are no better than those who you say are using the N word.