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There is nothing wrong with you. Your longterm experience with the band is the rule, not the exception. It isn't you. The band doesn't alter your brain (unlike the restrictive and malabsorption surgeries such as bypass). It is merely restrictive (as you experienced). When your metabolism and appetite wake up from those days/months post band surgery, many of us experience what you are describing. Please don't blame yourself. It is unproductive, and really, if you talk with other longterm bandsters, you'll see that 80% are right where you are. This is why the band is falling out of favor and there are fewer and fewer WLS patients opting for it.
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Hi Terilen, I havent' been banded yet, but like all of us, I have struggled and struggled with weight loss forever. It is really hard to accept that obesity is a disease. One of the things that society wants us to do is TAKE RESPONBSIBILITY for ourselves. Sometimes it is really hard for me to differetiate between lack of willpower and having a disease process. Trying to control the disease of obesity and bulima has to take a supreme amount of mental and physical energy. So you havent' gotten quite gotten where you want to just yet, but you will. You are working with your doctor and therapist. You have recognized some of the mistakes you have made with the band. The key is that you keep trying. One day at a time and NO GUILT. I don't know if you have thought about maybe doing a different type of surgery, like Geezer Sue did. She had a lot of problems with the band and ended up going with a different type of surgery and did really well with it. I am not saying the band is wrong for you... only you can say that along with your doctor. My surgeon recommended that if you have a problem with sweets to go with one of the bypass surgeries. I chose to go with the band for now...because it is the least invasive. But if I have problems or if I don't lose weight over a couple of years then I would consider a different surgery. In other words if the band doesn't work for me, I am not going to beat myself up about it. I know that I have a big sweet tooth and that my surgeon says that increases my risk that the band won't work for me. I would think bulima is a disease that would increase your risk of having trouble with your band. I would also think the band may increase your risk of having trouble with your bulima since it is so easy to PB with the band. I am sending good vibes to you....
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Because a lot of your intenstines have been bypassed, the sugar all goes directly into your bloodstream and spikes your insulin levels. This causes people to feel sick, have diarrhea, etc.
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Does anyone know the success rate of lapband surgery?
plain replied to slim2be's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
Hey Lisa. Really that's a loaded question. It depends on how you define "success". Success for most surgeries means that the pt makes it out alive, lol! For weight loss surgeries, success is measured in percentage of excess weight lost, so that number should be relatively the same for most people. Example: I have 100 lbs to lose and I lost 50 lbs. That puts me at 50% excess weight lost. Say somebody else had 200 lbs to lose and they lost 100 lbs. That puts them at the same 50% excess weight lost, even though they lost more total lbs. That's why the numbers are easy to compare. Like Julie said, the lapbanders lose slower than bypass people (in general), but it tends to even out after some years. So the question shouldn't really be "which surgery is more successful", but "which surgery will work best for me as an individual". As you probably know if you've been lurking around here, the band is only a tool.....you'll have to do some work as well if you want it to work for you. Bottom line, do the research carefully and ask questions from people who have had the different types of surgery (uh, like you just did, lol). I think the band is the best option, but there are people that think the RNY is the best, and there are people who swear by the DS. The more information you get means the better chance you'll have at making the right decision. Good luck! -
Of course it's up to you how much time you feel is necessary to recover, but generally speaking 4 days seems to be the recommended amount. Example: have the surgery on Wednesday, take off Thurs and Fri and have the weekend to recover and be back by Monday. For those have bypass surgery, it may take longer but the lapband surgery is less traumatic to the body than gall bladder surgery.
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Anyone Else having an open Gastric Bypass surgery? Or other procedures During their RNY??? https://starvingmom.wordpress.com/blog/
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Some of the worse ulcers ever were at the anastomosis of a gastric bypass patient who started drinking a little wine again - 14 year post op!!!! Many others, as well. Those surgical tissues remain fragile forever, I'm thinking. Alcohol is a terrible irritant to tissue of any kind, but for surgical areas, even worse. Everyone makes their own decisions and takes their own risks, but for me, alcohol is on the "never again" list.
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Are you going to the 08 National Lap Band Conference?
muscleband replied to aclubb's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
Hi, I wish I still lived in Dallas! I miss Texas, plus I'd love to go to that conference. Would you please ask a question for me? My band was filled slowly; .5 cc at a time. Only .5cc ago, I had no feeling at all: no restriction, no discomfort, nothing. Now, I can't take a bite without a choking sensation and nausea. Some days, even a sip of Water or swallowing my own saliva triggers this. I 'm miserable, and nobody (least of all the doctor) has any help to offer. ( Except, of course, that he'd be happy to remove the band and do a bypass charging for both, of course). Somebody online said this is called first bite syndrome. The solution of sipping warm liquid helps -- but then there's no restriction at all. There seem to be other people out here with the problem, but no good answers. I've sen people blame a too-tight band, or blame themselves for panic and vomit -- but that's just not it! What I would like to know is this: Is this what restriction with this band feels llike? Or are there people who just feel full (not stuffed) and put their fork down? That's what I was expecting. It's what I had before (with a type of band no longer used), when I was successful at losing all the way to goal and keeping it off ten years. I want this band to work, and I'm tired of feeling miserable. Is there something I can do??? Any advice for those of us who can't seem to find proper restriction??? Thanks! (nd I hope you're having better luck than I am!) -
looking for someone who has been rebanded
luv2laugh replied to cameron1209's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
I have a vg band which was put in Sept 07. A week ago, we realized it "slipped" and I need to go in for a revision surgery. My doc has taken out the 8cc's out of my 10 cc band. My new surgery date is Nov 5th. I am a little concerned that if my band slipped once, it may slip again? We think it was caused from a bout of vomitting (all night long), but doc says no one knows for sure. I have visited the gastric sleeve site, and it did intrigue me. But I don't have time to do all the research my doc is on vacation all week and my surgery is a week from tomorrow! :thumbup: So I would love to hear some success stories of people who are rebanded with the lapband! Bring it on! -
Happy 2 Year Bandiversary Merry Losers!
sghatl replied to christasha's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Hello, everybody. I haven't been checking in here enough lately I see. I am glad to see those of us still here. I have had an interesting second year. On the positive side, I had a hernia repair and a tummy tuck in June of last year and an arm lift and a breast lift in October. I am very pleased with the outcome. On a not so postive side, I continually have problems with reflux at night so that I can no longer eat after 4 or drink after 6 at night or I will be up all night. Ingesting reflux has given me pneumonia once already. It continues to get worse and I have been totally unfilled since last September. Luckily, I have continued to lose minute amounts of weight per month - at least not gain. But my diet is mostly liquid or soft foods. My ticker below reflects my current position. I have had an upper GI and and endoscopy in the last month and when I saw my bariatric doctor this week, we looked at the films together. I have pouch dilation without band slippage and scar tissue between the band and stomach which is why I have restriction despite the band being empty. Bottom line - band has to come out. I can either have a band placed back in with no guarantee it won't happen again or convert to gastric bypass. I think I have decided to get the GB. That said, do I regret getting the band? Hell no. It has been hard work for two years and no easy road. I have had reflux almost the entire journey. I never could really eat the types of food others could. Dense Proteins were a problem for me. I had constant follow up care at the doctor's. I followed band rules. I will get a surgery date when I get back from a trip to Pennsylvania next week. It's not my ideal choice but a better one none the less for me. I don't want to lose but 10-15 more pounds and would be happy to stay where I am for the rest of my life. BUT, I have a history of not being able to keep it off so I will have the surgery. -
You should look into the sleeve. The bypass is serious stuff. The band works great - but if you don't get a handle on your issues with food, you may have complications - especially if you are an emotional eater! Sure there are ways to go around the band to get what you want with food - but is that the reason you get the band in the first place?? The most healthy outlook about the band is this: The band provides 50% assistance in weight loss. You provide the other 50% by sticking to the plan and not eating things that go against the band, causing distended pouch, esophagus issues and slippage. I speak from experience and I know, first hand, that all my problems with the band that I am going through right now (I am scheduled for band removal) are as a direct result of my food intake and not paying attention. Yea, I am disappointed in myself - but if I had it to do over again.....I would learn as much as possible prior to band about food/band, I would get treatment for food issues (too many people don't like to admit this one) and I would join a HEAHTLY support group, not one that everyone sits around talking about ways to "get around the band".... I wish you luck. The band truly does work - but you have to do your part...seriously. Don't get lax! Take it seriously - and I also heard there is a new band coming out in June that will replace the old one. Look into it. My message speaks of my experience ONLY. Take what you want and leave the rest. Just remember....never stop trying... the band should be your friend and not your enemy.
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Jachut is right! Don't risk having problems with the band. I've had to have revision surgery and believe me, you don't want to risk it. Losing a little slower than you'd like is better than losing the band altogether! Good luck!:smile:
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I know exactly what you mean about knowing all about nutrition, how the body works, tried every diet in the world. I think most of us here have all gone through the same thing over many years. We all know so much more about diets and nutrition than the general population, in my opinion! I don't obsess over diets anymore. I just think rationally about what I've had in the day to make sure I've eaten what I should be eating, if I have a dessert here and there I don't worry about it because I know I won't be able to overeat, it isn't an option. I know there are people who bypass the band, and it can be done, but I have always been a healthy eater, just ate too much! The band, therefore, is good for me. Because I am not always that hungry I don't have the cravings for things I used to. Hard to explain, but overall it just makes me more in control. It takes me a long time to eat something too, so the enjoyment lasts longer, whatever it is I am eating. Best of luck to you... you will do great!!!
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What about the loose skin?
snowflake21al replied to snowflake21al's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
Thanks Laurigee for the encouragement and Congradulations! :thumbup: I am pretty discouraged because all I see is people that have lost weight but are now having to deal with loose skin. I watched a PS show on The Discovery Channel about this girl that had the bypass and I felt so bad for her because even though she lost all that weight she still felt terrible about herself b/c of the loose skin. She didn't even want her husband to touch her. I just don't want to end up in that boat, I have already spent too much time hating my body and not enjoying life due to my weight...I am glad to hear that there is somebody that lost weight and didn't have to deal with loose skin! -
Hi there, fellow Minnesotan. I looked up the number for Unjury online and called. They do send you a few samples! I haven't received them yet, but expect them any day. Oh- and I got the diet recommendations from Abbott/Northwestern but they didn't say anything specific about the band- only the bypass. Isn't that nice of them. I go to my other doctor on Thursday and I have a feeling I'll get better info there on the diet they use. Take care, and good luck! Megan
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I was banded in Monterrey, Mexico by Dr. Rumbaut - he is fabulous, and it cost 10,600. But there are credit companies that they use so you can call and see if you can get approved, that way you will just have a monthly bill. I love it. I go to Dr. Brinkley in Frederick, MD for fills, and no, they are not painful. The numbing needle is a little stick, but it passes quickly, and then you can't feel anything. I don't know about the gastric bypass question, my dad had that but he's never regained any weight. I'll find the website for Dr. Rumbaut and post it, or you can google him and find out a lot of information there. Good luck with your information gathering!
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Thank you for your reply! I have said I would never have gastric bypass after my brother-in-law passed - have gone to two different seminars with two different doctors. One was for gastric bypass and the last one for lap band - I was terrified at the gastric bypass one and was pleasantly surprised by the lap band seminar, the doctor giving the seminar was Dr. Grooves from Albertville and he actually had the band inserted about one year ago by his partner Dr. Britt and he looked great and had lost over 100 pounds. Just knowing that he had the surgery made me really feel so much better, but he is young, probably in his mid to late 30's and they all look great at that age! lol Good Luck to you and everyone else here! Patricia
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Help,looking for lap band success stories
raeraepa replied to jmperry's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
Hello jmperry, I started my journey last fall at 316 lbs. and my doctor told me the same thing that I really should get the bypass. I am 35 years old and did not want that. I told him that I did not want the bypass and wanted the band my mind was made up. He said ok but that the band only guaranteed 40% weight loss over 4 years as where the bypass guaranteed 85% in two years and that it would be hard work to get the weight off. I told him that I was willing to do the work and that I know I could do it. Well one year after my band was in three weeks ago I went in for a yearly check up and he was shocked. I have lost 143 lbs. in one year. It is possible to do it with the band however it was ALOT of hard work I worked out alot and watched my diet. The band is not a fix like the bypass it is a tool. I am here to tell you at our weight it can be done but it is hard work and you need to be dedicated. If you know you can do it then go for it the mind is very powerful once it is set. :thumbup: Good luck, Rae -
Likewise, I have spent a lifetime dieting. My first diet program was at 8 years old. I am now in my 50's, I am barely able to walk due to the weight and my arthritis, I have other medical problems as well and was at the point of giving up. Bypass scared me, dieting wouldn't work I figured I had no options until I heard about the band. I'm not banded yet, but will be soon and am so looking forward to it. I want my life back. I now have beautiful grandchildren that I want to play with and be around for for a long long time. I knew I was ready as soon as I learned about he procedure. I have had to do a lot of research and have gone through all the medical and psych requirements and this site has helped me immensely. Hang in there and find out as much as you can. This site being an excellent source of information as well as others. Talk to your doctors and just know that it is your decision, no one elses and that you have a lot of people thinking of you and praying for you. To me, this meant HOPE.
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Not sure if my port flipped? Dislocated? ANYONE? HELP!
lapbandchic73 replied to lapbandchic73's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
Surgery is scheduled Jan 28th for my port revision...So..here go nothing....AGAIN..augh. lapbandchic73 -
Hello, am scheduled for my MGB on 9th June and wondering on pregnancy as I would like to conceive mid next year 2019. Any person who has gone through this ?Please share experience,thanks and greetings from Kenya
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Hello all! I am having lapband surgery tomorrow morning and am scared, worried and unsure :rolleyes2:. I am terrified of surgery (scared I wont wake up & when I do how much pain there will be). I am worried that I wont lose the weight and be a failure statistic, and unsure that I am making the best decision for my weight loss. I have thought about weight loss surgery for the past 10 years, since my mom got gastric bypass. I have always been the "skinny one" in my family at 5'2" and 214. My mom, sister, aunt & cousin have all had gastric and have had success and are happy with their decision to have surgery. I know I WANT this but scared about all of the "what if's". I am private pay and worry too about additional need for surgery to correct problems. I guess I am just looking to connect with lapbanders, perhaps even in PA where I am from, to help me through the jitters. My Doc's office has a lapband support group but because of my work & school schedule I have been unable to attend. Thanks to everyone for your posts! They truely have been an excellent way for me to stay informed and feel positive.
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Hi, I've been banded for one year now. I am fighting the band. I can still eat more than my surgeon says I should BUT I have a hard time getting down meat no matter how much I chew. I am TIRED of getting stuck and throwing up. Also, because of the stress from all of this, I've fallen off the diet wagon. What do I do? I'm considering having a revision to gastric bypass, but I don't know if that will help. I'm feeling like I'm a failure.
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Okay I really struggle with Water. I was told by a Gastric Bypass patient to drink Crystal Light....can Crystal light take the place of water? Sorta like adding lemon? I am not a big drinker and I don't want to drink Crystal light if it can's benefit me like water......let me know your thoughts! Birdee::devious
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I'm still on the mush stage so I eat Oatmeal, cottage cheese, scrambled eggs sugar free instant breakfast or applesauce Lunch I eat soups, sugarfree jello or pudding and i drink Adkins shakes Dinner Again soup I'm a big soup lover so thats no problem having it all the time, sweet potatoes mashed potatoes, chili tuna w/ lots of lo fat mayo or egg saled again w/ lo fat mayo and once in a while small amount of mac and cheese. Hope this helps I was Banded Mar 14 2007 and have lost 25 lbs already which is fabulous for me, when and where were you banded? There is a thread in here that talks about a cook book just for gastic bypass people, I forgot what its called but it is in the thread for foods. I have found that thread very help for ideas and recipes. Check it out. Don't get discouraged Also addicted to sugar free popsicles Best of Luck Mattie