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Upon further research, looks like I went into hypoglycemia. Which is dangerous. I know now I need to not consume much alcohol as can come on without warning. Since we never have much in our stomachs not much to absorb alcohol and the alcohol blocks liver from producing glucose hence why it can be so sudden with a decent amount of alcohol and not much food to absorb.

I still haven't seen any evidence or proof that I have stalked or harassed anyone. I have said Put up, or Shut Up and all you and the other two can come up with is Explain Yourself! So I ask again. Explain myself for WHAT? For posting on the board? My challenge STILL stands. Find and quote any post or PM that I have written in which I have attacked people with such hatred and cruelty as you have. Find it. Quote it. Post it. THEN ask me to explain why I said what I said. Just because Lisa, Dody, and 3Loves SAY its so, that doesn't make it so. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- And here's a reminder for you Dody... Formal & FINAL WARNING! After recent events exhibited by some LBT members the Moderators (with Alex, owner) permission have decided to post this Formal and FINAL WARNING that personal attacks, inappropriate behavior, name calling, excessive cursing, disregard for the Rules & Guidelines, and like postings whether in a Private Message or in a Thread WILL NOT BE TOLERATED. With the next incident the member WILL BE BANNED without warning or notification. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Is it really necessary to start trying to degrade my marriage simply because you can't come up with one legitimate thing against me? Have you grown weary of calling me a degenerate, an alcoholic, and a drug addict? Now you must stoop so low as to make these kinds of hateful statements? Go on Dody. Show us all why you hate me so much. Pull up things your genius daughter copied and pasted with such brilliance and SHOW US what I ever did to you to make you respond with such venom and cruelty. We are ALL waiting. PUT UP OR SHUT UP

Torose, I am not sure if I am doing anything "special" or different. I try to eat my Protein (60g) , then vegetable, then starch. I also try to drink 64 ounces of Water, very little juice and I don't drink soda. I try to work out everyday but realistically, I average 3-4 days per week on the elipitical, for 25 minutes. I don't eat more than 1 cup of food per meal. I eat 3-4 meals per day and I eat fruits. I don't drink alcohol, also. I attend a monthly support meeting, visit my dietician and doctor, for follow-up visits and tests. Also, I try to track my food and exercise on www.MyFitnessPal.com.

I had to sign a contract with my surgeon stating that alcohol is strictly prohibited. Forever. Not for 6 months, or 1 year. Same with pop/ soda. They say you can stir the carbonation out of diet soda months out if you really want soda, but that's about the extent of bending the rules.. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using BariatricPal

My brother has gastric bypass surgery 2 1/2 years ago he can eat anything just smaller portions. If he tries to eat alot he starts throwing up. He can even drink alcohol with no problems.

My surgeon said no alcohol until a year after surgery, as well. Interesting.

I am so sorry for your loss, I am completely compassionate about what your going through. Some people say "you don't have a clue how I feel" but I actually do..lemme tell you why? <-- should make you feel a little better. February 2013 I had to have an emergency gallbladder operation, simple 1 day procedure you would think, but ended up getting aspiration pneumonia from the anesthesia which left me with 6 days the hospital. Wasn't planning that but had to use some of my vacation time from work. Then I found out I had Thyroid Cancer in October and had my Thyroid removed in November 2013, (no more cancer) then my boyfriends son and his girlfriend decided to do drugs and get caught so their 2 year old was brought to us temp. custody on Thanksgiving 2013...then my 24 year old son and his 2 dogs were brutally murdered during a burglary at his house...imagine loosing a child!!! then in March the druggy son of my boyfriend goes to court and tells the judge that his father is an alcoholic and is denying them court ordered visitations with their son to which is not true...they NEVER showed up and my boyfriend hardly ever drinks...but the judge took the child away from us and gave him back to the druggies <-- see how our justice system works? Then to make matters even worse, when I finally had enough...it was time for me and I decided to do my homework and educate myself on the Gastric sleeve to wit I made my appointment with Surgeon at the end of May 2014 and found out my insurance will cover it...but also found out I am now a diabetic. So..this surgery is the best choice I can make in my life..funny tho...if I have no appendix, Female parts (hysterectomy), gallbladder, thyroid and now soon to loose over half my stomach...why does God give them to us if we can survive without them? Anyway...I hope that makes you feel a little better that we all have our trials and triumphs, one is no worse or better than the other..but to us..they are tragic. Just know that no matter where you are..someone is listening weather it's someone in your personal life or someone from this forum...your not alone. Keep your chin up...smile and get back on the program expeditiously and that in itself will make you feel so much better. I promise you!!

My surgeon says none for six weeks and then to take it slow until you know how you will be effected. Apparently some people get flat drunk on one drink and others don't notice a difference. Of course, alcohol is empty calories so he cautions to save it for special occasions. I'm not a huge drinker but it is nice to know I will be able to have an occasional glass of wine.

Are there any Protein bars out there which do not have sugar alcohols in them? I'd like to up my protein a little but every bar I've tried has upset my pouch (RNY). Some of the common sugar alcohols include xylitol, maltitol, erythritol, etc.

I was just wondering, after getting sleeved, can wine or any other alcohol be consumed? I'm in no way an alcoholic but I have a wedding in April to go to and I was wondering what the rules were?

You go girl! I am greakung my addiction to sugar just like the alcoholics....one day at a time. My surgery will be in August. I said goodbye to sodas and fast food years ago,,even my beloved Pizza Hut, who moved right down the street as soon as I stopped eating it!!! Talk about ironic. Before it was a 15 mile ride to get Pizza Hut, now they deliver to my door!!! Ughhhh, I feel like Alanis Morissette singing, " Traffic jam, picking up my pizza late, but now home delivery well isnt this great. Because now its 10,000 salads and not a hot pizza in sight, ....Feeling positive because I am doing my body right!!!.....isnt it ironic, ,yeah a little too ironic. well I really do think ! LOL, FEEL THE POWER BREAKING THE ADDICTION!! I have a saying I repeat everyday because it is a day to day walk to break the addiction. "NO COOKIES, NO CANDY NO SUGAR NO SWEETS" over and over ...it helps.:) GOD Bless!

i personally think the whole alcoholic thing is 2 fold, one if you have food issues i think its easier to swoop one addiction for another using booze as the thing you now use. Say if you were an emotional eater food is no longer the pick me up booze is and becomes a issue. Also my second theory on this is if you are a very social person going out to eat has issues its hard to deal with, costly for what you can eat, you might puke, there may be pain etc etc etc so you have drinks instead. which can become a hell of alot if its always drinking. thats my take on it anyway

@@sonandonubes Please seek help immediately. You should not be mixing prescription drugs and alcohol to help clear you head. You are doing wonderful. I would love to lose a 100lbs. I know things are going to be rough and we are all going to have our ups and downs, but you cant let the downs get you this far down. You are amazing and an inspiration to many of us. If you need to talk to some please message me, I am a good listener. I am also 33 and I have no children.

Amen! I'm pretty clever when it comes to eating. I'm really grateful I got the band, don't get me wrong, but I feel like my whole world came to a crashing halt and without using food to help cope with ANY emotion (anger, frustration, even happiness) makes me not quite sure how to rebuild myself. I don't think preband I realized what a sacrifice emotionally I would be making. I did start journaling too, I got bored. I tend to do it on Sundays when I have more idle time. I exercise 3x/week. It IS hard to resist temptation and I think something valuable I've learned is to praise myself for EVERYthing. Like the other day when I was driving home, I had a really annoying day at work. I thought about stopping my McD's and grabbing a burger (I could eat sans bread!) This particular McD's was a previous weakspot as I normally stopped after work. I told myself I didn't have to drive past the McD's, I just had to drive past the exit. I got in the right lane to make it more difficult and I made it all the way home without stopping! I learned I have to praise myself for that. Some may think that's not a big feat, but for me, it was the equivalent to not stopping by a favorite bar for an alcoholic. I used to tell myself that that behavior was the expectation and chide myself for giving in. Now I tell myself how awesome I am for driving by. My whole life and my whole family's life revolves around food. I think that has made the process just more complex and difficult. I feel like I am learning, but it's so slow that I get frustrated.

I have found that most drugs for which I feel an effect don't last as long as the label says. Generally the effect lasts about 4-5 hours where the expectation is 8 hours. I've done time-released medications and supplements, some work fine (or at least well enough), others not so much. Out of an abundance of caution, me and my medical team tend to take more pills of smaller doses more often. I spread them out through the day or in the case of 'as needed' medications, I am able to take them 'as needed' more often. Alcohol, also being a drug for which I feel an affect, works much the same as other drugs. I feel the effect quicker, it fades quicker, and on the extremely rare occasions when I achieve a hang over it starts and ends much quicker, such that by early morning it's run it's course. Hope this helps. Good luck, Tek

I hear people saying "He is sick and should be punished." In another thread in this section of LBT, someone writes about the Dr. Phil house (TV show) and the people who are "sick" because of their prejudices. It is easy to single out people who are "sick". If I had cancer, would you want me punished? Just about everybody (except for people who will read this and say that I deserve to die for my attitude) would say no. If I was an alcoholic, would you want me punished? Many would say yes, because I should be able to control myself, BUT, many others would say, "no, it is a sickness and he needs help". I am FAT, do you want me punished? Many would say yes, because I should be able to control myself and do punish me in the form of discrimination, BUT, others would say, "no, it is a sickness and he needs help". If I was a pedophile, would you want me punished? Most people would say yes, because I should be able to control myself, AND, few others would say, "no, it is a sickness and he needs help". Why? Because of the victim? Do we abuse alcohol or eating because we have emotional problems? Does a pedophile abuse children because of an emotional problem? Many if not all pedophiles were abused as children. "Who cares?", I hear. They have to take responsibility. But if you are reading this, you probably have a Lap-Band, but if gastric bypass surgery had not been invented, the same could be said about you (and me). Should we give this(or any) pedophile a medal, or should we coddle him (or her)? NO! Of course not. Should he be separated from society? Of course! But not in a prison where the other inmates are not sick, but in a mental health facility where he should get counseling 8 hours per day, not the one hour per week as he would get in a prison. And these Megan's law are one of the first steps toward all of us losing our freedom. If pedophiles were handled as sick people requiring medical treatment instead of as criminals, we would not have the specter of the government punishing people even after they have finished their sentence. If a person is still sick, they belong in treatment. When a person is no longer sick, they deserve to be free. Treat pedophiles and help them, because they are suffering the same way we suffer. While we are feeding our faces, we are in Heaven, but soon after we return to the Hell of knowing our failure. Do not doubt that many pedophiles go through that same situation. We are sick and they are sick, and it is a medical health problem in each case. All those wishing that I would die of cancer can now respond.

Lying awake in bed due to reflux caused by attempting to eat steak earlier tonight and I get this "revelation". ( Nothing like the clarity that comes in the middle of the night) My mind must have been thinking over some of the stuff I read earlier today and I suddenly realised that the symptoms in this article describe what used to happen to me in my early 20s. There were a number of occasions when I would feel hot, cold, nauseous,shaky have ringing in my ears and want to pass out. In fact the once I was at the pub with my BF who is now my DH and I literally dropped. I was fine 1 minute and passed out on the floor the next. It was so embarrassing as everyone must have thought i was extremely drunk when in fact I was on either my 1st or 2nd drink. At the time my GP said that it was probably a hernia but reading this dumping seems more likely. It was usually brought on by alcohol especially any type of clear spirit such as vodka. Luckily I haven't had those symptoms for years

@Paul.VDH No worries - OK, my 2 cents on "pouch reset" and "counting calories" - Let's look at it logically.... We all know you have to consume less calories than you burn - Otherwise = weight gain. At 10 months out, let's face it, you're bored with the "diet" and ready to venture into new foods. At least I know I was. For me, I simply had to come to a compromise with myself and knock on wood, so far it's working. You can do the pouch reset, and you WILL lose weight by going through the phases again - IF you're doing that to get back on track, then go for it. IF you're doing it to lose 5-10 lbs quickly and then go back to what you're doing today - It's a temp fix. No different than what many of us have done before on previous diets. Use the app to make yourself AWARE of what you're doing to self-sabotage and make realistic modifications from there. If you want something that's "forbidden" (cake, alcohol, fried food, etc.), have it - BUT, in a reasonable quantity - I was just talking to a friend last night who also did the surgery and we were talking about these things - Instead of eating something like it's the last time you will EVER have it again (food funeral?), have a bite or two and then put it up and replace it with something more reasonable if you're still hungry. Example - Last night my husband had country fried steak (one of my all time favorites - can you say comfort food!!) - Rather than have 3-4 ounces of it - I had two bites and was still hungry so I had a protein shake. A month or so ago, I would have eaten it until I was stuffed and then swear I wouldn't indulge again (and of course I would!). Drinking... well, again, I told myself that if I was going to fall off the wagon, I should make it worth it and over do it. I'm consciously working on enjoying a glass of wine (vs. a bottle) or a glass of bourbon (vs 1/2 a bottle!). At just over a year out, I pretty much eat and drink whatever I want. It's been an adjustment, but slowly but surely I'm getting where I want to be. Many days/weeks I don't track. When I find that I'm self-sabotaging (I get on the scale each and every day), I go back to tracking. Seeing it in black and white (both the scale and the tracking) helps me get back on track to maintain and/or lose. I may or may not ever get to my goal weight, but I'll be damned if I'm going back to where I started.

Unfortunately it sound like to keep him happy that attending the party will be the best thing. If it was me, I would bring my own stuff and pretend to be drinking more than you are... Long Island Teas with no alcohol, etc. I would tell them you just went out for a huge meal before arriving too. Or hold your stomach and say "I dont feel good" and frown. I am not good a "white: lies.

Hi All, Well i have a little dillema...:confused2:I am getting my band May 12th. I have ran into a speed bump though. My husbands 2 best friends are having a birthday party this saturday. Apparently i cant eat anything and i cant drink (alcohol):thumbdown:...I would have loved to go but it just doesnt sound like ANY fun due to my issues. I told my husband this and he got all upset about it. :angry:I told him to go by himself and he said no, i want you to go...so i said okay ill go but i do NOT want to be there for very long. He got upset with that but dealt with it..i guess:glare:. So i am going to this party with 25yr old single men who are going to be getting drunk with their skinny rude girlfriends and they are going to be wondering hmmm why is victors wife not eating or drinking?:bored: I dont want to tell them i am having WLS...maybe i dont want to tell them b/c i dont want to embarrass myself:sneaky:. (He doesnt want me to have the surgery bc he loves me not matter what even if i have 13 fingers:lol:). I really dont know what to tell them. Can anyone help me think of something to tell them...i dont want them to think im being rude and i just dont want to be around them. ( i really dont bc of my surgery) Really confused and frustrated:incazzato: Mandi Jo

I was told no alcohol for 6 months... Then only low sugar, low carb drinks. I know they sell "skinny" drinks...

I am almost eight months post-op and I just had my first adult beverage last weekend. I was scared to death that I would be "that person" who passed out after having one drink. Happy to report that I was not "that person", as a matter of fact, it really had no effect on me at all. As everyone has already said, each person is different and each surgeon is different. I was advised not to drink alcohol for six months, but did not have to sign a contract or anything. Best of luck to you.

I truly believe that our brain signals ARE broken, I believe that our chemical approach/desire for food is exactly the same as the alcoholic or the junkies approach/desire/need for their drug. Brain scans have shown that a lot of people with substance abuse problems have an organic deficiency in certain good chemicals so, in a sense, the abuser is actually self-medicating and because the brain is lacking, it interprets it as needing to overdose to make up for the lack - a little dopamine won't do it, they must have lots of dopamine, and more, and more. I think we are the same and someday it will be proven that there is either a chemical deficiency or a mis-wiring of sorts. As for the hunger; pre-op it seemed like I could just never be satisfied, it just never registered, no matter how much volume I ate. I could eat until the point of nausea, until I could literally not put one more bite in my mouth without vomiting, and I still wouldn't feel satisfied. I think that was psychological and that it was head hunger, pre-op style. Now, it is tangibly different, but I still battle the head. Now I may *want* to eat, but any "need" I may have is strictly in my mind ... or is it? I don't know ... I ate normally yesterday, Breakfast, lunch, dinner, but when it got time for dinner I had a green salad with dressing and my hand was shaking on it's way from forking a bite to putting it in my mouth. I ate like someone was going to take it away from me and remained shaky throughout, so what was that all about? If I am very busy I can completely forget/ignore needing food, I have been out with non-op friends gadding about town or hiking and they will mention the need to stop and eat and when I ask why, they look at me and say, "because it's been 8 hours since we ate!" And I just didn't notice. When I am alone though ... food is almost all i think about ... v_v The struggle continues ...

I got a bit blitzed, to the point i almost couldnt talk clearly off of two shots. so it does happen. Havent touched a drop since, and i weighed much more then. With all the Vitamins and Protein we take it, we put a greater need on our liver and kidneys to process the things we take in and as a result we dont filter alcohol as fast nor as completely over time as we used to. that why we get drunk faster. So just be careful.

I got addicted to power crunch bars. They are that good. Anyone who is sensitive to carbs i suggest you stay away from them. As for Atkins bars: be careful. The sugar alcohol can really bloat some people and/or cause diaherra. Some people are more sensitive to sugar alcohols than other. I can eat one a day. Found that out the hard way. :-)