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natural vs added sugars
newmebithebypass replied to Chrisb428's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
So our requirements which I know different than others are under 5 grams of sugar. But we remove sugar alcohols and fiber. And it has to be under 15 carbs a serving. Also we can have 3 servings of fruit a day. 1 per meal as long as we get in our protein first but we have to wait until week 6 when we can also have salad -
Please try to get in contact with the hospital Dietician or Nutritionist ASAP, this site cannot replace medical advice, this is for socialization and support, but nutrition questions are best answered by your team, they have access to your medical history, labs, insurance, liability and have trained for this... After soft foods like yogurt pudding etc I moved on to softer textured /pureed foods , (stage 3 I think , but every plan and time frame is different) + very finely pureed/chopped chicken , salmon or tuna mixed with fat free mayo to make a pâté +very softly veggies like carrots and green beans (they literally dissolved in your mouth soft) +eggs (boiled, scrambled, etc) +very ripe banana +soft low fat cheese ( babybel, laughing cow, etc) -no grains, no breads, no pasta, no hard fiberous vegetables, no fruits with skins attached, no cookies/cakes/pastries, no alcohol, no added sugar, My typical day was: 7am - 12oz coffee or tea w/ 5.5 oz premier shake (15g protein), water 830 am- 1 oikos tripled zero yogurt with tsp honey (15g protein) 930 am - water or tea 4-8 oz 1030am - water or tea 4-8oz 11 am- water or tea 4-8oz 1230 pm- 1/4 cup (2oz?) If canned salmon finely mixed with mayo (12g protein? Never ate it all) and 1/8 cup (1 oz?) Tender cooked carrots 130 pm- water or tea 4-8 oz 230 pm - 12 oz coffee of tea with 5.5 oz premier shake (15g protein) 330 pm- low fat cheese stick or wedge (6g protein) and boiled egg (7g protein) 430 pm- water or tea 4-8oz 530 pm- water or tea 4-8oz 630 pm- water or tea 4-8oz 730pm- oikos triple zero yogurt with 1tsp of honey (15g protein) 8pm- water or tea 4-8oz Hope that help! VSG2017 HW 249 SW 238 CW 167
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Starbucks drinks
Screwballski replied to Mytimenow17's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I gave up anything carbonated, alcohol, sweetened begs and any sweetener that wasn’t natural years ago. Coffee was my last real THING! 😜 :). Argh! -
Why is alcohol that bad for you after surgery?
J San replied to t1018ross's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I was an alcoholic already pre op. Does that mean I'm good to go? BTW havn't had a drink post op and I plan on trying my hardest to keep it that way. I was drinking 1400 calories of Vodka ( yes vodka, the one everyone thinks has the least calories) in two to three days. Granted it would be a portion of that if I did drink again, ya know with the small belly and all, but I am not willing to take in those unneeded calories. -
"I'm having metabolic surgery next week, so I'll be taking a few days off to recoup."
Born in Missouri replied to Born in Missouri's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
@Tealael BajanSleeve's post intrigued me. If anyone has figured me out a little by now, you'll realize that I just gotta get to the bottom of anything medical or scientific. I was SHOCKED to find this: " Some people notice an increase in feelings of hunger after they start to take vitamins. Although some vitamins may affect hunger in certain situations, these increased feelings of hunger are more likely due to another cause. Although most vitamins won't cause you to feel hungry if you're healthy, people with certain conditions may experience this effect. One of the side effects of certain vitamin deficiencies is a loss of appetite. If you have such a vitamin deficiency and then begin taking vitamins to correct it, you might feel hungrier because you're no longer experiencing a loss of appetite because of the deficiency. Loss of appetite is a side effect of vitamin B-12 deficiency, which is more common among vegans, chronic alcoholics, people with digestive disorders and those who've had weight-loss surgery. A deficiency of folate can cause loss of appetite. Among the other B vitamins, thiamine, niacin and biotin deficiencies can also cause lack of appetite. Vitamin D's effect on appetite is interesting, as both vitamin D deficiency and vitamin D toxicity can cause appetite loss. A vitamin K deficiency, which is most common in people on certain medications or those who have difficulty absorbing fat, may also lead to loss of appetite." This vitamin deficiency alert scared the becheezits out of me. I need to be more vigilant about my vitamins, but it's almost a full-time job to organize. My multivitamin has to be spread out 6x/per day and my calcium 4x/per day, and then I can't mix the iron with the calcium... the sublingual B12 is the easiest to take. I'm also taking magnesium citrate now because of post-op cramping in my legs. As for vitamin D-2, I've been deficient in that for years, even though I take 50,000U 2x/per week. It's hard to keep up. And, of course, I have to incorporate my regular meds. I must be half-horse by now... considering all the horse pills I have to take! -
Congrats on your success so far... Contact your team that handled your surgery if possible and form a plan. Return to nutritional visit if you can, support group if available, then pull out your binder /original plan and see where you are. While at a support group a few weeks ago the topic was regain and how to manage it, these were some of the questions the NUT told everyone to pay attention to if fighting regain: How far have you drifted? What was the original weight goal (realistically)? Did you change anything to cause the weight gain? Any life changes (health, job, relationships,etc)? Can you go back to basics (protein and vegetables only to test for weight loss ) or reset for a week? What is your protein intake? What is your vegetables /fruit intake? What is your carb intake? Do you have hidden calories (too much sugars, carbs, condiments, slider foods) ? Are you drinking your calories ( juice, soda alcohol) ? What is your Water/zero cal fluid intake ? Safe journey again! VSG2017 HW 249 SW 238 CW 167
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Ucler after WLS
GreenTealael replied to Dimples58's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I drink coffee daily , no sign of an ulcer Some people on here drink wine often, search the threads specifically for alcohol use and ulcers. VSG2017 HW 249 SW 238 CW 167 -
Why is alcohol that bad for you after surgery?
ScoutCR replied to t1018ross's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Only an observation...but I think gastric sleeve vs gastric bypass is the answer to why some people seem to tolerate / handle alcohol and others get hit like a brick in the head. I have a friend who had a sleeve and he can sit and drink 5 vodka cranberry drinks and it seems to not phase him. (BTW, he is 2 years in and has not had any weight regain.) I on the other hand with a gastric bypass cannot finish 2 vodka drinks without passing out before finishing my 2nd drink. Go figure, I tell my wife I am a cheap date, but seriously I will never drink and drive (not that anyone should) not even after 1 drink. My experience at home has taught me that I cannot handle even a fraction of my pre OP alcohol consumption. -
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bostonmama replied to Matt Z's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I drank more than I should have starting around one year post op, and ended up with transfer addiction to alcohol. (I very rarely drank pre op). Tried to quit drinking, and could see the addiction reverting back to food, I regained 15 lb from my lowest weight in a couple of months. I tried counseling, was put on a lot of medications that made me feel like a actual crazy person, so ended up quitting them all, now I am trying to cut back on drinking with a goal of quitting on my own. My experience with alcohol now is much like my old experience with food before surgery. I sometimes wish I had never gotten WLS in the first place, but if I am able to quit drinking it will hopefully be a small bump in the road to an overall healthier life post wls. -
Just curious...has anyone been diagnose with stomach ulcer since surgery. If so, how was it treated? I'm almost 1yr post op and attended a 1yr post op support group class on Wednesday. The RN really focus on things to eliminate after WLS. The top three are smoking, drinking alcohol and caffeine.
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Why is alcohol that bad for you after surgery?
Apple203 replied to t1018ross's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I've experienced the blackout thing post-surgery, too, after 3 glasses of wine, so be careful. I think its because the alcohol enters you colon more quickly that before? Drinking contributed to my original weight gain, and I suspect it is slowing my weight loss, but I find complete abstinence difficult. That night where I had 3 glasses of wine was 3x6x20=360 calories!!!!!! -
Able to yes SMALL AMOUNT! If I am out socially I drink non carbonated or mix drinks. But for the days I want to have a beer yes I am able to drink a pint over an hour, compared to the pitcher I use to drink before VSG. Alcohol does slow down weight loss though and Stalls are a B!tch to get over so you learn as you go what to stay away from as it’s a balance between indulging rewards and scale victories.
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HI SueGrace, The only advice I can really give is to take what you read with a grain of salt as your own nutritionist will give you the diet plan she or he wants you to be on, which (in my experience) is individualized according to your unique situation. For example, some people have said they can have alcohol later down the line, others say they were told not to drink ever after surgery. When I went to my pre-op instructional this week, each of us in the room had different pre-op plans. Mine wanted 4 meal replacement shakes + a bariatric meal (dinner entree) for 2 weeks pre-op. Others in the room had 3 shakes a day and no meals, or 3 shakes a day + 1 meal, etc. It varied based on the person. As far as the plan of action for foods POST op, I was told for me that when I'm discharged I am on full liquids, then everything changes in 2 week intervals. So, 2 weeks post op I can move to puree, then 2 weeks after that soft foods (assuming I can tolerate it, etc). My nutritionist said if I feel I can do it sooner, that's fine, but it's a base 2 week plan. but again, that's individualized for me. If your nutritionist or doctor said to go a certain route I'd ask questions if you're unsure, but ultimately go with the treatment plan they advise. Good luck in your journey!
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Dump the sugar and simple carb laden foods, no soda, alcohol, added sugar, etc and then add some exercise. Do all that first if you have not already done that. I made all those significant small changes first, then went harder. The week I attended the seminar I ditched the diet coke, done. Then let go of pasta, rice, any bread except rye and then only one piece toasted once a day, etc. These changes are pretty much permanent. To go hardcore to get to your most important goal - which is surgery scheduled - you may need to go lean protein and vegetables sooner - which is the lifestyle we all have after surgery anyway. You don't need the shake routine until your doc says do the shake routine, unless for you that seems easier. Me - I would rather have tuna or chicken than a shake. Good luck.
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Need advice and encouragement not ripped apart
Sosewsue61 replied to lisalou1968's topic in The Gals' Room
@lisalou1968 - hang in there. You can message me as well. We will support you and get you up to speed on navigating this forum and all that. You might want to go to the library and request some books by Geneen Roth. She helped me to figure out my pain from eating my emotions, to like myself and see the value for being me. I am not picking on you here, but you picked an alcoholic for a reason you don't yet understand. Good riddance but you need to figure this out before you even think about another relationship or you will pick another person that is a problem. Try reading 'Co-dependant No More' by Melody Beattie. I know all this because I was married to an alcoholic for 18 years, and I was an abused child. It will get better. You will get better. -
Why is alcohol that bad for you after surgery?
Gingertastic replied to t1018ross's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I was told absolutely no alcohol for the first 6 months and then to be careful of carbonated beverages after the fact. I realize every doctor has different schedules so listen to your doctor. That being said I would warn anyone about alcohol use after surgery. I worked as a substance abuse counselor for many years and treated many individuals that cross addicted from food to alcohol. It is a very slippery slope. I’m not saying anyone here is headed in that direction but just a friendly reminder that it is very possible. Unfortunately those individuals not only had to address new addictions but had generally caused many additional medical issues as a result of the drinking. -
Why is alcohol that bad for you after surgery?
baribetty replied to t1018ross's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I think it has to do with alcohol tolerance being lower after surgery, but also a transfer of addiction. If you’ve been addicted to food, and now you can’t eat like you used to, it’s easier to become an alcoholic. -
Why is alcohol that bad for you after surgery?
Caligirl T replied to t1018ross's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Ive had two friends after surgery become very addicted to alcohol and someone stated above the addiction transfers to another form. They have gained their weight back and now are addicted to alcohol as well. Its not a good idea to only change one facet in your life might as well make the change to all areas and start fresh! -
Why is alcohol that bad for you after surgery?
ScoutCR replied to t1018ross's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
and my doctor said 3 months... big difference eh? The point is that everyone's program is different. The only consistent thing is eventually they do allow alcohol again. My Dr said no alcohol for 12 weeks/3 months same as AshAsh1. My Nut said no alcohol for 1 year! So even in the same program there are differences of opinion. My program is at UPMC and they are the program that published the study 2 years ago about alcoholism and gastric bypass so they did spend time discussing that with me. I had my first glass of red wine at 8 weeks. The end of this week (July 20) will be 12 weeks. I don't plan on going on a binge or anything close to that. I found since that 1st glass that 2-3 glasses of wine and I am toasted and then I didn't remember going to bed! I had to ask my wife what happened? She said I was ok and when I went to bed I just passed out. That scared her and was frightening to me because before surgery I never had any episodes of not remembering when I drank. So I know first hand that alcohol post gastric bypass surgery does affect you differently than pre OP. Not sure if that will change for me the longer I am from surgery or not. I am not real anxious to find that out. Be careful until you know how alcohol affects you. Like sillykitty, I also travel extensively for my job all over the country and alcohol is part of entertaining customers, and it is a part of the sales culture in my industry. I am starting back on my full travel schedule next week and am dreading that I may eventually fall back into the old habits of meals and alcohol. Travel will be my biggest test yet. Knowing how alcohol affects me now and not wanting to undo all that I have done to get here is a big motivator to not overdrink and overeat. -
I am pre-surgery, I have five months left until my insurance will approve or deny me for surgery. I am doing keto to maintain/not gain weight before the insurance review. I love meat, cheese, eggs and non starchy veggies - so Keto is easy for me. I don't miss sugar too much, but Atkins makes low carb sweet treats to satisfy that craving. The best part of keto for me is that looking at the nutrition label and identifying if I can eat a certain product is so easy. Total carbs - Fiber - sugar alcohols = net carbs. I track my carbs and calories in Myfitness pal, by editing my macros columns so I can focus on the items I need to pay attention to. I have also found a recipe with cheese, egg and seasonings to make "flatbread". It is deliciously cheesy and I turned that same recipe in to lasagna "noodles" and found a low carb pasta sauce to make a lasagna tonight!
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I can't make a decision
sillykitty replied to CashmereAndBones's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I had VSG because portion control is hard. It's hard to eat only a little, or restricted foods while dieting. You're hungry, and it takes a lot of food to fill you up. But with VSG, I have much reduced hunger. And when I do eat, the quantity is so small, it's max a few hundred calories, and I'm full. I have lost nearly 70 lbs in 5 months, and it has been easier than any diet I've ever been on. You also seem to think that you have to be on a crazy restrictive diet after VSG. I'm certainty not. I eat quite healthfully when I'm home, focusing on protein and otherwise fairly low cal foods. But I don't restrict anything, I eat fruit, bread, protein pasta, cheese, frozen yogurt bars, frozen fruit bars, etc. But for example I don't make fettuccine alfredo or fried chicken at home. So it's balanced and moderate, IMO. I actually eat out multiples time per week for work. I wouldn't recommend eating at as much as I do, because it is harder to make healthy choices, and hard to track restaurant food. But for me it is unavoidable. Sometime I make healthy choices dining out, sometime I don't. I could eat healthier while dining out, but with clients and colleagues it's not appropriate to customize dishes very much. I've seriously eaten just about everything in the last 4 months, including bites of dessert. And most days even with 3 meals out, I'm still under 600 calories because my stomach size is so restricted. But I am very conscience of what I consume, I log everything. So even though I might have biscuits and gravy for breakfast, I'm not off the rails and have a f it attitude, if that makes sense? As far as FOMO, there is only one hard decision I made. I've cut out all alcohol. I didn't have to, it doesn't have an adverse effect when I do have it. I just don't want to add the empty liquid calories to my diet. It was a big deal because of the travel and entertaining I do. I'm in bars multiple times a week, and I'm drinking water, so definitely awkward. But if it was only glass of wine or two a week, I wouldn't have cut it out completely, as that's pretty immaterial in the scheme of things. But for me, many weeks would be 20+ drinks, so it just would have counteracted my WLS too much. -
I avoided cheez-its for like, 7.5 months after surgery, but had some 2 weeks ago in an impulsive gas station buy on a road trip It was a 3 serving bag and I got through 2 servings without even realizing it! Never. Again. the cheez-its are BANNED! I was so successful keeping them out of the house (those and other crackers are my "I will devour this whole bag/carton" type foods) and now I have to try harder to eliminate gas station stops--like packing a bag ahead of time for nutrition needs! Did that last roadtrip (after the cheez it meltdown) and was wickedly successful. Protein shake and a yogurt if I needed one or both. Otherwise...I don't think I've had any huge slider screw ups like that. Unless you count alcohol. there are sadly days where I drink my calories from bad things like that instead of eating real people food. #workinprogress anyone?
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Confessional - Lets post our cheats/confessions/etc so others can see that we are all human
Jdesmond73 replied to Matt Z's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I haven’t cheated at all food wise but have allowed myself much more alcohol than I should. -
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onega128 replied to Matt Z's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I drink beer. I just love all beer. I’m not an alcoholic I just want beer from time to time. -
I can't make a decision
TakingABreak replied to CashmereAndBones's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I've def had some FOMO in the beginning stages. Oh, I remember going on a shopping trip that required a road trip with friends. On the way home, I had to find something from the gas station to eat.... They came back with Subway. I came back with a stick of cheese. It was saddening, at the time. When we have a couple party and I serve dessert, it sucks to be the only one not partaking. However, I could make it easier on myself and eat something with them, that is allowed on my plan. I'm getting better at ways to have yummy things that go along with my plan. I think I have FOMO the worst though when other people point things out, sometimes I don't even think about it, until my bestie says "Come over, I've got a bottle of wine with our names on it". While she knows that I'm not regularly partaking in alcohol, it just slips her mind. I haven't slipped on anything pastry or cake-wise because I am afraid to dump. I think the fear alone is keeping me on track. I do eat SF ice cream and ice cream bars, but you can't find those things at restaurants while out with friends (which is when I think about it). Do I think that this will change overtime, and I'll be able to have a bite of cake at a birthday party, maybe? I'm good without it at the moment. I actually don't crave sweets much anymore. My weakness is chips... oh boy, I salivate over some chips. LOL And I eat some from time to time. I buy the little snack size baggies (like the size for kids lunch boxes) and I splurge. But I feel VERY guilty, every single time. I haven't gained from any splurges, but I can tell when my diet isn't fine tuned enough, and I stall out. The first thing to go for me is fruit.
