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This Friday I think my doctor is going to switch me to puréed foods. At least I hope so, cause I'm starving. I had my surgery Oct 24, so no fills yet. Has anyone tried puréed potatoes or mashed potatoes? I was just talking on the phone with a friend who got the sleeve and she says her stomach totally rejects mashed potatoes because they're too heavy. I went to the store and bought red potatoes, sweet potatoes and vegetarian refried beans. All in preparation for Friday. Any other puréed food suggestions? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm a total newbie. I don't even fully understand the whole fill thing yet.
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Call me <evil> but...
gomekast replied to LipstickLady's topic in Weight Loss Surgery Success Stories
Same here. I can't wait to see the look on my bro in law and his skinny wife. They've never made comments to our face, but he is a doctor so he has asked questions and knows some of our attempts. I have one person that isn't a friend per say anymore, but was. She is real full of herself, thinking she was the healthiest out of the two of us. She is vegetarian yet struggles with pretty high cholesterol..yet she's always sort of made her comments about my diet struggles. If only I did things her way I would look like her etc. I can't wait to see the look on her face next year when we run into each other. Never telling her either. Ever. :-) -
If you are not vegan, milk, cheese, yogurt etc are must haves If you are, look for soy/rice versions. Than invest in Quinoa- excellent Protein, legumes, tofu, vegetarian versions of meat (like vegan dogs/burgers), nuts, and making hummus. Start tuning into the nutrition labels and you'll be surprised to see a portion of peas can be as much as 8g of protein and brocolli is 6g. Add those kind of veggies to something like tofu and you got yourself a meal! Protein shakes and/or additives are also helpful when you are starting out and getting your barrings on how to concoct a protein packed veggie meal.
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I'm a vegetarian now, well since April. I was one 20 years ago as well for about a decade. Anyway- I still have milk and eggs, so I don't fall into the vegan category. I find Protein drinks to be a good thing- at least one a day for me. Other than that, eggs (I have backyard chickens so I get fresh eggs). There's a peanut powder, PB2, that's fairly high in protein and lower in fat that's easy to flavor things with. Other than that the standard tofu, tempeh, lentils. In a bind I'll have a boca burger. cheese is another good one for me- cottage cheese with balsamic vinegar and spices. Spinach is good too- but in order to get enough protein from it you'd have to juice a bag or bunch of it.
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I'm not a Vegetarian in the strictest sense, but I have not eaten Red meat since hitting the Green Zone 2 1/2 years ago...I don't eat eggs and much in the way of dairy products and baked (flour based) goods, along with some other things... I have absolutely no problem getting 65-80 gm of Protein everyday.... As I type this I am having my Breakfast smoothie - 35gms protein to start the day, before heading to the gym at 5am....
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Any vegetarian or vegan bandsters out there? I'm curious how you get all of your protein in? I have relied a lot on eggs, ground turkey etc. to meet my protein needs, but I'm switching to a more plant based diet and am worried about protein intake. Any suggestions? Thanks!
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di·et1 ˈdī-it/ noun 1. the kinds of food that a person, animal, or community habitually eats. "a vegetarian diet" synonyms: selection of food, food, foodstuffs; More a regular occupation or series of activities in which one participates. "a healthy diet of classical music" Seems like alot of us obese and former obese people get really caught up on the word diet....and then reject anything associated with it. That can be detrimental. Just because we've all failed at "diets" doesn't mean that word means only one thing.
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Not true! My son's girlfriend is a nutritionist with a PHd and an MS in sports medicine...hardly lazy! She's also a vegetarian. She does say that it's possible to be vegan as a gastric bypass patient, albeit difficult, especially in the first six months. She disagrees with you about whey isolate, and says it's the most complete choice for most patients. I would prefer soy, but it is not a good choice for rny patients with thyroid issues. I applaud you for your commitment to a vegan, organic lifestyle, and hope you have success post op.
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True story. Vegetarian here so I'm a lil lenient on the carbs. Edamame hummus is a yummy compromise.
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I am almost a year out and still can't eat beef or pork, white meat of poultry either. No Tuna either...I used to love these meats and have not been able to handle any of them...don't know if I ever will again.. I have started exploring new meats like rabbit, goat and different kinds of fish....Most people won't eat rabbit or goat..but I really want to eat my Protein in meat..lol.... so I will try anything almost.... I don't expect you to try them..it is just that there are some meat out there that is easier to tolerate then others..you have to explore or become a vegetarian...I didn't want the second option myself.....lol
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Am I the only one that doesnt miss food/eating?
outwithbenjiboi replied to gamergirl's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I've NEVER been a foodie. Shopping, cooking and eating was always such a chore. As a result, I never wanted to invest the time in making good decisions about food, and ate whatever was on hand or easiest. Processed food, eating times and portions were my downfall. I'm too lazy to bake, too cheap to buy soda, treats and junk food, and too indecisive to pick a restaurant. The result: Lots of Pasta, bean burritos, cheese toast, omelets, pizza and Amy's Kitchen products. (My wife is an ovo- lacto- pesce- vegetarian and I fell in line). Eating was always a bother -- in the way of doing something else -- so I stuffed it in mindlessly. So the challenge for me is to CARE about what I'm putting in my mouth now! -
November buddies where are you?
nh20013 replied to soonerorlater's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
11 days til I start mine ... I'm so glad my surgeon doesn't make you do a liquid diet he just puts you on a vegetarian low fat diet for 2 weeks prior to surgery...I'm still gonna cut way back with solids -
Take me to a restaurant?
Leena replied to Bandista's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I tried not ordering anything to drink, but that usually ends up with some weird looks. So I just go with Water by default, however I don't even touch it. In the last year I've become a vegetarian and you'll rarely find an unchewable piece of tofu or vegetable. Soups are by far my favorite thing to have out. I'm more adventurous out now as well: Pho, Indian, Japanese, Greek. When I did eat meat: rare filet minon was my go to for dinners out, and NJ has great steak. It's close enough to Philly and NY to go out for dinner. -
I can't find any scientific sources that imply roasted nuts and seeds are devoid of nutritional value. As a vegetarian, my nutritionist recommends them as an additional protein and fat source. Can you send me your scientific sources pretty please? Obviously, if I'm better off eating doritos I would prefer to know before snack time!
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Kate, I still love you, but you need to know where I live. I have never lived in Kansas. I live in Missouri. Most of Kansas City is in Missouri. Many people don't realize that. Kansas City KS is a small part of the metro area. The name doesn't make sense, I know. The state animal for MO is the mule....so does that answer your question about stubbornness :> :> I eat chicken breast and turkey breast. I have discussed my dislike of meat and fish with many of the dieticians and nutritionists I have worked with. I am not the only person who doesn't like those things and not the only sleever either. I have had online conversations with several vegetarian sleevers. I basically am lacto-ovo vegetarian by definition with the exception being that I eat chicken and turkey breast. Yes, I am stubborn about this. As long as my labs are fine, I am not going to worry about it. I have always been healthy and this isn't a new phase for me, I never have liked meat and fish. Enough about that....I really liked Faye's suggestion about the crock pot. It doesn't get much easier than a slow cooker! I make several meals a week for the family in the winter with a crock pot.
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Well, OK then Jean. But I doubt you'd ever find a nutritionist or m.d. to agree with you that Protein drinks is a good way to get protein. That was my whole point. Not that it hasn't worked for you, but for your health, real protein is the way to go. Personally, although you didn't ask , I think you could find a better way. BTW, I was only kidding about becoming a Vegan. However, you might find being a vegetarian is a good choice. Hmmm. All our Kansans stubborn? ROFL. Still love me?
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Six Weeks Post Op & Not Doing Great
DLCoggin replied to Lucii24's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
"A guy on this forum, who works here, says whey isolate is just fine. To make whey isolate, they denude the whey of much of its nutrition. AS the guy pointed out, Gibbons, I think is his name, the denuding process strips out fats but it is a mistake to think one can be healthy with no fat. There are good fats and our bodies need them. The Proteins in whole whey are good fats and good for you and you don't eat mass quantities of the stuff." I'm pretty sure that guy did not say or imply that "one can be healthy with no fat". I seem to recall that he indicated that fats, along with Protein and carbs, are all "macronutrients" meaning that they are all three required in relatively large quantities. Whey isolate is not a source of healthy fats. But I don't recall him suggesting that anyone should limit their diet exclusively to whey isolate. There are many sources for healthy fats. I believe that he indicated that whey isolate is an excellent source of highly digestible and exceptionally high protein content. Not familiar with the term "denuded" but protein can be "denatured" using either heat or acid. Whey isolate is produced by a filtering process (as the guy mentioned) and is not denatured. Denaturing actually changes the molecular structure of proteins effectively making them smaller in size. The result is that they pass very, very quickly through the walls of the intestine and into the bloodstream. Denatured proteins are sometimes the protein of choice for body builders but they are very expensive and seldom used or recommended for bariatric patients. As I recall, the guy that made that post indicated that he is not vegan or vegetarian but has friends and family that are and he has great respect for those who make that choice. I also think he favors organic, but does not exclude other options. And just for the record, that guy's name is DLCoggin but some folks just call him Dave. You're gonna love the new you!! -
Those of you who do not feel "hungry" or desire to eat are very lucky !
outwithbenjiboi replied to OHHLALA's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I really like what Endless says about freeing ourselves from the burden of dieting. I've been dieting for darn near 40 years (since age 13), and, to be very frank, I'm sick of that sh@! I'm spending my recovery weeks educating myself about 1. healthy, high-Protein foods, 2. new products/foods that I may not be familiar with, but that others find very useful, and 3. EASY recipes that will work for both my wife (a vegetarian) and me -- a base to which I can add meat and she can add a meat alternative. I figure, if I choose, buy, stock, have on-hand, and prepare the right foods, the SLEEVE will take care of the rest. -
I find it humorous that you assume I have no knowledge of the food industry. I most certainly do and I have almost a decade worth of knowledge of how RNY works and what you need to eat to lose weight and maintain weight loss. The reason there is little support of this "garden of life" vegan stuff is because you will not be able to get in enough protein, good fats and starches with a vegan diet as a post op bariatric patient. I'm not saying that "normal" (people w/o RNY) can be healthy following a vegan or vegetarian diet but those people don't have the malabsorption
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Any long-term sleevers out there for advice?
Teachamy replied to carriecat's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I am pre-sleeve, so feel free to ignore me. I am a type I diabetic, so I have been dealing with nutrtiion my whole life. Have you tried cutting grains out all together? (no wraps or chips for a while, keep your carbs limited to fruit/dairy.) Also try lean meats, fish, and low-fat cheeses. Also, if you can tolerate them, a lot of vegetarian options are low-fat and good sources of protein. And as always, track your intake, weigh and measure your food, and keep fighting the good fight! Best of luck!!! -
What did Brown eat today?
feedyoureye replied to BrownDoesAll's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I remember the 5:2 site says the 5:2 is not recommended for people with Diabetes, but with you in remission, this might not apply.... I would think if you monitor, then it might be ok? I start with a 1200 limit on feast days, and add more as Myfitnesspal recommends with added exercise. I am also a vegetarian. I don't eat a very simple diet, my list is as long as my arm! I eat around 4 meals sized meals a day, averaging around 300+ calories each. I try and eat lots of veggies, in Soups, salads, stir fries and baked casseroles. I plan a sweet meal at the end of the day, and this helps me to avoid sweet snacking during the rest of the day. I try to eat more Protein and Fiber than MFP recommends, which is more in line with the 60+ recommended by my doc. My carb intake is lower than MFP recommends, but is NOT low. I try and eat very high nutrition foods, organic grains and veggies, good quality fats and fruits, and like I said, vegetarian Proteins. I can eat a lot. I make it mostly veggies. I can eat a 3 cup bowl of Soup, and the same sized bowl of salad. I try not to stuff myself, and quit before I get there. I do have good restriction, though but it shows up with some foods and not others. I can't eat much Pasta, go figure. I can make 1/2 serving, and leave most of it on the plate. (hurray!) Honestly, I don't see myself as a very good roll model, except for the eat lots of variety of high quality raw and cooked veggies advice. I even grow my own, and keep those local microbes going down the hatch! (I'm into feeding the gut microbes, pre-biotics and pro-biotics) -
I disagree with what you say about whey isolate. The calorires supposedly saved by the denuding process to make isolate are insignificant. Look at the ingredient list of any whey isolate: it is full of chemicals. People can do what they want but the whey isolate is denuded of the very important benefit of healthy fats. Even on weight loss, we need those good fats. It might be good for those who are lactose intolerant but I have never understood why someone who is lactose intolerant wouldn't just find a vegetarian Protein powder. If you buy natural flavored ones, you can doctor up a vegetarian powder to be chocolate, strawberry, raspberry, coffee, mocha -- anything you want and entirely avoid the lactose issue. I have not yet eaten any vegie protein powder -- awaiting delivery of my first order. I went with Warrior because it has a Warrior Blend with nothing added but three kinds of protein. I don't want to pay the very high prices charged for these products for the additives. I can add the nutrition I want buying it myself at much lower prices. And I note you do not discuss organic whole whey versus whey isolate which is rarely organic -- weight loss might be our main goal but my overeall goal is to eat highly nutritious, 'real' food. I don't buy anything processed except protein powder, only 100% usda certified organic. I have yet to find a 100% organic whey isolate.
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I am not a vegetarian or vegan but I have friends and family that are and I have great respect for the motivation and commitment of those who make that choice. That said, I believe that it is important to recognize the value of whey Protein (including whey isolate) for those whose goal it is to get the most protein possible with the fewest possible calories. Whey isolate is the result of a high tech nano filtering process which removes virtually all of the lactose and fat from the whey. The resulting product is about 95% pure protein. The tradeoff for the increased purity of the protein (and reduction of calories) is the loss of the immune system boost provided by those healthy fats that are filtered out. That does not mean that whey isolate is unhealthy. It is simply a product produced to provide a very specific benefit - very high protein content while limiting calories. For those who are lactose intolerant, whey isolate is often an excellent choice since it is usually well tolerated. Whey isolate is also highly digestible. All the protein in the world is useless if your body cannot metabolize it. Whey, milk, soy and egg Proteins all have the highest digestibility score possible - 1.00 (based on the PDCAAS scoring system adopted by the Institute of Medicine, World Health Organization and the Federal food and Drug Administration). Protein is a nutrient. Protein, along with fat and carbs, are the three "macronutrients" required by the body in relatively large amounts. So whey isolate is certainly nutritious - but targeted. Garden of Life certainly seems to be an excellent product which is about 75% protein (17g of protein and 90 calories per serving) and appears to be a good choice for those seeking a vegan or vegetarian alternative. But there are other healthy and nutritious options for RNY patients who have not made the vegan or vegetarian choice.
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I just ordered my first container of Garden of Life Protein powder. As indicated by some comments here, not everyone realizes you can get all your protein needs met on a vegan or vegetarian diet -- CandyCrush is talking about a vegan Protein Powder, after all, not just powdered vegies. I have made the decision to transition off all meat and fish -- the fish is all full of radiation anyway after Fukushima -- and, well, just for me personally, now that India and Russia have declared Dolphins to be non-human persons, I decided I can no longer justify eating animals. But lasting change is, for me, anyway, incremental change so I am not going cold vegie. I decided to start with one pound of vegan Garden of Life protein powder. Right now, I use 100% organic whey, unflavored, which allows me to create any flavor I want. I use only organic ingredients. I add cinnamon, ginger, tumeric to all shakes -- good nutrition. I often do chocolate shakes. Chocolate is actually highly nutritious when you don't add sugar to it. I use organic stevia to sweeten. I use frozen fruit to give shakes creamy texture -- half a frozen banana does wonders. ANd I often use unsweetened coconut milk which yums up anything. Somd prefer almond milk -- I am a cocomilk gal and I actually make my own cause all commercial coconut milk, even the oragnic ones, have a known carcinogen as an ingredient: carrageenan, a harmless-sounding seaweed that has been known to cause cancer for over 30 years but our FDA allows it added to all kinds of food, including organic. I basically don't eat any processed food anymore cause food processors slip in all kinds of stuff to stretch out the real food and expand their profits at the expense of my health. I do buy protein powder, which is processed, but only 100% certified organic. To folks using whey, don't use whey isolate. The process to make isolate basically denudes the whey of its nutrients, making the product cheaper for the manufacturer but you think you are buying healthy only you aren't. Make sure if you do whey it is only organic and WHOLE whey -- no isolate. And no chemical Vitamins added. Get your vitamins on your own, don't pay more for denuded protein powder at GNC just cause they slick package it as a positive feature. Most added vitamins are just bad chemicals for your body.
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Not loosing weight :(
musiclover replied to musiclover's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
When my knee isn't swollen and I can walk without pain I always walk as much as possible but my knee is the reason I needed this surgery as I realised I couldn't rely on exercise like I have done in the past to lose weight. I was assured by my surgeon that I should still lose being on a VCLD (very low calorie diet) and I seem to be stuck and losing much more slowly than most. My carb intake is tiny compared to the old me. So this is depressing I'm not getting anywhere yet eat small amounts. I could drink more Water I mostly drink hot tea , as for Protein I'm vegetarian so get it from cheese milk tofu and quorn plus of course veggies. Frustration is setting in I really need this to work I was crawling along and now at a standstill.
