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sillykitty replied to GreenTealael's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
When I'm working from home, I get 64 oz about 80% of the time. I rarely get more than that. (Not including protein shakes or soup) When I'm traveling, ugh, some days maybe 16 oz? Never more than 32 oz. I've given up, I don't even try to hit 64 oz. I mean, I can't carry a Yeti around with me all the time, bring it to customer meetings? I can't just stop in and buy bottled water all the time. Can't drink during or after meals. I used to drink quite a bit on planes. But that bit me in the ass one time, so I'm hesitant. I really had to pee, but we had started our descent, so I held it, then on the ground we had to wait and wait for a gate, I was dying. I finally just got up and told the FA I was pregnant and couldn't hold it anymore. That was half true at least! I get the most water in when I'm out at bars. But water is never refilled as quickly as alcohol, so that slows me down. It's funny, four pints of beer is 64 oz, and that was no problem what so ever, just getting started for the evening. Four pints of water feels like an impossible task -
How I can eat healthy when my girlfriend doesn't?
GreenTealael replied to Offingapp's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
A lot of people don't seem to understand food addiction (I don't), etc. I think that is the real problem. They believe will power will get you through. Not making excuses for anyone here at all but, if it was a drug/alcohol addiction, rehab and resources would be available and expected to be used to get well . No one would expect the girlfriend to use/drink in the next room. The advice would be totally different. You would be asked if you are attending support groups, seeing your sponsor, staying away from negative influences etc... we need to start treat this like the problem it really is VSG2017 HW 249 SW 238 CW 167 -
How I can eat healthy when my girlfriend doesn't?
GreenTealael replied to Offingapp's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
You need to sit down and have an honest conversation about it with her, because drastic changes (like quitting smoking/drugs & Alcohol, other major life changes) can cause a rift that can eventually end the relationship. So as long as she is aware of the changes (we don't eat together anymore , the stuff can't come in the house, I need your help with this , but that doesn't mean I don't like you, we have other things in common still etc.) and is OK with it and doesn't try to sabotage you (try to eat around you when that was the agreed to change, still brings foods in, nonchalant about your health,etc.) you guys should be fine... BUT SHE NEEDS TO KNOW WHAT YOU NEED FROM HER AND you may be one of he lucky ones after surgery that does not care about it at all (my family and friends can eat what ever they want, idk but healthy food is stocked in the house so the are making mostly good choices by default around me) VSG2017 HW 249 SW 238 CW 167 -
How I can eat healthy when my girlfriend doesn't?
jrmoseley replied to Offingapp's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
It's hard. Really hard. And yeah, you can say that willpower is required here, but honestly--if any of us had that kind of willpower we wouldn't have the weight problems that we do. Brain chemistry is a powerful thing, and the more research we see, the more I'm convinced that we're dealing with forces we just don't even begin to understand right now. That being said, I think I'd try one more time to get the idea across that this isn't like a "regular person" going on a diet and trying to shed a couple of pounds. This is more like an addict trying their best to get and stay clean of drugs--because they know that if they don't, they're going to die. And if an alcoholic/addict lives with a person who's using, it's only a matter of time before they start using again themselves. If your girlfriend remains unsupportive, then you have to make some tough choices. Maybe live on your own where you can control what's in the house. I'm really sorry you're going through this. It's a hard enough struggle when you have the full support and faith of your life companions--I can't imagine how difficult it must be to do it without that support. -
natural vs added sugars
newmebithebypass replied to Chrisb428's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
So our requirements which I know different than others are under 5 grams of sugar. But we remove sugar alcohols and fiber. And it has to be under 15 carbs a serving. Also we can have 3 servings of fruit a day. 1 per meal as long as we get in our protein first but we have to wait until week 6 when we can also have salad -
Please try to get in contact with the hospital Dietician or Nutritionist ASAP, this site cannot replace medical advice, this is for socialization and support, but nutrition questions are best answered by your team, they have access to your medical history, labs, insurance, liability and have trained for this... After soft foods like yogurt pudding etc I moved on to softer textured /pureed foods , (stage 3 I think , but every plan and time frame is different) + very finely pureed/chopped chicken , salmon or tuna mixed with fat free mayo to make a pâté +very softly veggies like carrots and green beans (they literally dissolved in your mouth soft) +eggs (boiled, scrambled, etc) +very ripe banana +soft low fat cheese ( babybel, laughing cow, etc) -no grains, no breads, no pasta, no hard fiberous vegetables, no fruits with skins attached, no cookies/cakes/pastries, no alcohol, no added sugar, My typical day was: 7am - 12oz coffee or tea w/ 5.5 oz premier shake (15g protein), water 830 am- 1 oikos tripled zero yogurt with tsp honey (15g protein) 930 am - water or tea 4-8 oz 1030am - water or tea 4-8oz 11 am- water or tea 4-8oz 1230 pm- 1/4 cup (2oz?) If canned salmon finely mixed with mayo (12g protein? Never ate it all) and 1/8 cup (1 oz?) Tender cooked carrots 130 pm- water or tea 4-8 oz 230 pm - 12 oz coffee of tea with 5.5 oz premier shake (15g protein) 330 pm- low fat cheese stick or wedge (6g protein) and boiled egg (7g protein) 430 pm- water or tea 4-8oz 530 pm- water or tea 4-8oz 630 pm- water or tea 4-8oz 730pm- oikos triple zero yogurt with 1tsp of honey (15g protein) 8pm- water or tea 4-8oz Hope that help! VSG2017 HW 249 SW 238 CW 167
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Starbucks drinks
Screwballski replied to Mytimenow17's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I gave up anything carbonated, alcohol, sweetened begs and any sweetener that wasn’t natural years ago. Coffee was my last real THING! 😜 :). Argh! -
Why is alcohol that bad for you after surgery?
J San replied to t1018ross's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I was an alcoholic already pre op. Does that mean I'm good to go? BTW havn't had a drink post op and I plan on trying my hardest to keep it that way. I was drinking 1400 calories of Vodka ( yes vodka, the one everyone thinks has the least calories) in two to three days. Granted it would be a portion of that if I did drink again, ya know with the small belly and all, but I am not willing to take in those unneeded calories. -
"I'm having metabolic surgery next week, so I'll be taking a few days off to recoup."
Born in Missouri replied to Born in Missouri's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
@Tealael BajanSleeve's post intrigued me. If anyone has figured me out a little by now, you'll realize that I just gotta get to the bottom of anything medical or scientific. I was SHOCKED to find this: " Some people notice an increase in feelings of hunger after they start to take vitamins. Although some vitamins may affect hunger in certain situations, these increased feelings of hunger are more likely due to another cause. Although most vitamins won't cause you to feel hungry if you're healthy, people with certain conditions may experience this effect. One of the side effects of certain vitamin deficiencies is a loss of appetite. If you have such a vitamin deficiency and then begin taking vitamins to correct it, you might feel hungrier because you're no longer experiencing a loss of appetite because of the deficiency. Loss of appetite is a side effect of vitamin B-12 deficiency, which is more common among vegans, chronic alcoholics, people with digestive disorders and those who've had weight-loss surgery. A deficiency of folate can cause loss of appetite. Among the other B vitamins, thiamine, niacin and biotin deficiencies can also cause lack of appetite. Vitamin D's effect on appetite is interesting, as both vitamin D deficiency and vitamin D toxicity can cause appetite loss. A vitamin K deficiency, which is most common in people on certain medications or those who have difficulty absorbing fat, may also lead to loss of appetite." This vitamin deficiency alert scared the becheezits out of me. I need to be more vigilant about my vitamins, but it's almost a full-time job to organize. My multivitamin has to be spread out 6x/per day and my calcium 4x/per day, and then I can't mix the iron with the calcium... the sublingual B12 is the easiest to take. I'm also taking magnesium citrate now because of post-op cramping in my legs. As for vitamin D-2, I've been deficient in that for years, even though I take 50,000U 2x/per week. It's hard to keep up. And, of course, I have to incorporate my regular meds. I must be half-horse by now... considering all the horse pills I have to take! -
Congrats on your success so far... Contact your team that handled your surgery if possible and form a plan. Return to nutritional visit if you can, support group if available, then pull out your binder /original plan and see where you are. While at a support group a few weeks ago the topic was regain and how to manage it, these were some of the questions the NUT told everyone to pay attention to if fighting regain: How far have you drifted? What was the original weight goal (realistically)? Did you change anything to cause the weight gain? Any life changes (health, job, relationships,etc)? Can you go back to basics (protein and vegetables only to test for weight loss ) or reset for a week? What is your protein intake? What is your vegetables /fruit intake? What is your carb intake? Do you have hidden calories (too much sugars, carbs, condiments, slider foods) ? Are you drinking your calories ( juice, soda alcohol) ? What is your Water/zero cal fluid intake ? Safe journey again! VSG2017 HW 249 SW 238 CW 167
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Ucler after WLS
GreenTealael replied to Dimples58's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I drink coffee daily , no sign of an ulcer Some people on here drink wine often, search the threads specifically for alcohol use and ulcers. VSG2017 HW 249 SW 238 CW 167 -
Why is alcohol that bad for you after surgery?
ScoutCR replied to t1018ross's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Only an observation...but I think gastric sleeve vs gastric bypass is the answer to why some people seem to tolerate / handle alcohol and others get hit like a brick in the head. I have a friend who had a sleeve and he can sit and drink 5 vodka cranberry drinks and it seems to not phase him. (BTW, he is 2 years in and has not had any weight regain.) I on the other hand with a gastric bypass cannot finish 2 vodka drinks without passing out before finishing my 2nd drink. Go figure, I tell my wife I am a cheap date, but seriously I will never drink and drive (not that anyone should) not even after 1 drink. My experience at home has taught me that I cannot handle even a fraction of my pre OP alcohol consumption. -
Confessional - Lets post our cheats/confessions/etc so others can see that we are all human
bostonmama replied to Matt Z's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I drank more than I should have starting around one year post op, and ended up with transfer addiction to alcohol. (I very rarely drank pre op). Tried to quit drinking, and could see the addiction reverting back to food, I regained 15 lb from my lowest weight in a couple of months. I tried counseling, was put on a lot of medications that made me feel like a actual crazy person, so ended up quitting them all, now I am trying to cut back on drinking with a goal of quitting on my own. My experience with alcohol now is much like my old experience with food before surgery. I sometimes wish I had never gotten WLS in the first place, but if I am able to quit drinking it will hopefully be a small bump in the road to an overall healthier life post wls. -
Just curious...has anyone been diagnose with stomach ulcer since surgery. If so, how was it treated? I'm almost 1yr post op and attended a 1yr post op support group class on Wednesday. The RN really focus on things to eliminate after WLS. The top three are smoking, drinking alcohol and caffeine.
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Why is alcohol that bad for you after surgery?
Apple203 replied to t1018ross's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I've experienced the blackout thing post-surgery, too, after 3 glasses of wine, so be careful. I think its because the alcohol enters you colon more quickly that before? Drinking contributed to my original weight gain, and I suspect it is slowing my weight loss, but I find complete abstinence difficult. That night where I had 3 glasses of wine was 3x6x20=360 calories!!!!!! -
Able to yes SMALL AMOUNT! If I am out socially I drink non carbonated or mix drinks. But for the days I want to have a beer yes I am able to drink a pint over an hour, compared to the pitcher I use to drink before VSG. Alcohol does slow down weight loss though and Stalls are a B!tch to get over so you learn as you go what to stay away from as it’s a balance between indulging rewards and scale victories.
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HI SueGrace, The only advice I can really give is to take what you read with a grain of salt as your own nutritionist will give you the diet plan she or he wants you to be on, which (in my experience) is individualized according to your unique situation. For example, some people have said they can have alcohol later down the line, others say they were told not to drink ever after surgery. When I went to my pre-op instructional this week, each of us in the room had different pre-op plans. Mine wanted 4 meal replacement shakes + a bariatric meal (dinner entree) for 2 weeks pre-op. Others in the room had 3 shakes a day and no meals, or 3 shakes a day + 1 meal, etc. It varied based on the person. As far as the plan of action for foods POST op, I was told for me that when I'm discharged I am on full liquids, then everything changes in 2 week intervals. So, 2 weeks post op I can move to puree, then 2 weeks after that soft foods (assuming I can tolerate it, etc). My nutritionist said if I feel I can do it sooner, that's fine, but it's a base 2 week plan. but again, that's individualized for me. If your nutritionist or doctor said to go a certain route I'd ask questions if you're unsure, but ultimately go with the treatment plan they advise. Good luck in your journey!
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Dump the sugar and simple carb laden foods, no soda, alcohol, added sugar, etc and then add some exercise. Do all that first if you have not already done that. I made all those significant small changes first, then went harder. The week I attended the seminar I ditched the diet coke, done. Then let go of pasta, rice, any bread except rye and then only one piece toasted once a day, etc. These changes are pretty much permanent. To go hardcore to get to your most important goal - which is surgery scheduled - you may need to go lean protein and vegetables sooner - which is the lifestyle we all have after surgery anyway. You don't need the shake routine until your doc says do the shake routine, unless for you that seems easier. Me - I would rather have tuna or chicken than a shake. Good luck.
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Need advice and encouragement not ripped apart
Sosewsue61 replied to lisalou1968's topic in The Gals' Room
@lisalou1968 - hang in there. You can message me as well. We will support you and get you up to speed on navigating this forum and all that. You might want to go to the library and request some books by Geneen Roth. She helped me to figure out my pain from eating my emotions, to like myself and see the value for being me. I am not picking on you here, but you picked an alcoholic for a reason you don't yet understand. Good riddance but you need to figure this out before you even think about another relationship or you will pick another person that is a problem. Try reading 'Co-dependant No More' by Melody Beattie. I know all this because I was married to an alcoholic for 18 years, and I was an abused child. It will get better. You will get better. -
Why is alcohol that bad for you after surgery?
Gingertastic replied to t1018ross's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I was told absolutely no alcohol for the first 6 months and then to be careful of carbonated beverages after the fact. I realize every doctor has different schedules so listen to your doctor. That being said I would warn anyone about alcohol use after surgery. I worked as a substance abuse counselor for many years and treated many individuals that cross addicted from food to alcohol. It is a very slippery slope. I’m not saying anyone here is headed in that direction but just a friendly reminder that it is very possible. Unfortunately those individuals not only had to address new addictions but had generally caused many additional medical issues as a result of the drinking. -
Why is alcohol that bad for you after surgery?
baribetty replied to t1018ross's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I think it has to do with alcohol tolerance being lower after surgery, but also a transfer of addiction. If you’ve been addicted to food, and now you can’t eat like you used to, it’s easier to become an alcoholic. -
Why is alcohol that bad for you after surgery?
Caligirl T replied to t1018ross's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Ive had two friends after surgery become very addicted to alcohol and someone stated above the addiction transfers to another form. They have gained their weight back and now are addicted to alcohol as well. Its not a good idea to only change one facet in your life might as well make the change to all areas and start fresh! -
Why is alcohol that bad for you after surgery?
ScoutCR replied to t1018ross's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
and my doctor said 3 months... big difference eh? The point is that everyone's program is different. The only consistent thing is eventually they do allow alcohol again. My Dr said no alcohol for 12 weeks/3 months same as AshAsh1. My Nut said no alcohol for 1 year! So even in the same program there are differences of opinion. My program is at UPMC and they are the program that published the study 2 years ago about alcoholism and gastric bypass so they did spend time discussing that with me. I had my first glass of red wine at 8 weeks. The end of this week (July 20) will be 12 weeks. I don't plan on going on a binge or anything close to that. I found since that 1st glass that 2-3 glasses of wine and I am toasted and then I didn't remember going to bed! I had to ask my wife what happened? She said I was ok and when I went to bed I just passed out. That scared her and was frightening to me because before surgery I never had any episodes of not remembering when I drank. So I know first hand that alcohol post gastric bypass surgery does affect you differently than pre OP. Not sure if that will change for me the longer I am from surgery or not. I am not real anxious to find that out. Be careful until you know how alcohol affects you. Like sillykitty, I also travel extensively for my job all over the country and alcohol is part of entertaining customers, and it is a part of the sales culture in my industry. I am starting back on my full travel schedule next week and am dreading that I may eventually fall back into the old habits of meals and alcohol. Travel will be my biggest test yet. Knowing how alcohol affects me now and not wanting to undo all that I have done to get here is a big motivator to not overdrink and overeat. -
I am pre-surgery, I have five months left until my insurance will approve or deny me for surgery. I am doing keto to maintain/not gain weight before the insurance review. I love meat, cheese, eggs and non starchy veggies - so Keto is easy for me. I don't miss sugar too much, but Atkins makes low carb sweet treats to satisfy that craving. The best part of keto for me is that looking at the nutrition label and identifying if I can eat a certain product is so easy. Total carbs - Fiber - sugar alcohols = net carbs. I track my carbs and calories in Myfitness pal, by editing my macros columns so I can focus on the items I need to pay attention to. I have also found a recipe with cheese, egg and seasonings to make "flatbread". It is deliciously cheesy and I turned that same recipe in to lasagna "noodles" and found a low carb pasta sauce to make a lasagna tonight!
