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I have been a little MIA for a while trying to finish up my final graduate school classes-and I finally graduated! In the midst of the last year I've had some regain and trying to lose it. i'm also dealing with a ball out of left field- a possible cancer diagnosis. I have had a very persistent ovarian cyst for about 15 months. I've changed forms of birth control during that time and the thing has grown and shrunk multiple times. My Ob-Gyn has been very appropriate, following the ACOG rules and seeing me every few months and doing many MANY ultrasounds. Now it's changing and I'm having some strange symptoms that she (nor I) will dismiss- and Friday I had a CA-125 blood test. Because I'm a nurse and going through Nurse Practitioner education right now I have access to very professional scientific databases of research. The research has shown over and over that a Ketogenic diet seems to show great results in various types of cancer treatment. This has to do with the fact that insulin/glucose cycle feeds tumors and on a keto approach you drop your glucose intake and stabilize insulin resistance... So today i'm doing some cooking and tomorrow the hubs and I will embark on a full blown Keto journey. i'm a bit nervous because without a gall bladder i'm sure i'll have some dumping syndrome, but in any case my doctor ALSO fully endorsed this approach when I saw her-which I was happy about (since many doctors look at you with glazed eyes when you mention any change in eating). I know that many bariatric folks don't do keto but this is much more than a weight loss attempt right now- it could be my life on the line... Thank you for letting me ramble. I would just like to ask each of you-regardless of which religious/spiritual approach you take, to please pray for me/send me positive thoughts,vibes, etc. I really need them and will update as I know more in the next 2 weeks.
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Hi!! Im new here 🤗 (but have been lurking for months 😂😂) I started my journey for WLS in March of this year, Im looking to have VSG, my insurance has a 6 month period before approval.. Ive also struggled with weight all my life.. Ive been working out with a Personal Trainer since 2012 and I will admit tht my dedication has been more geared towards the workout vs. diet. I have tried Atkins lost 50 lbs and gained it back plus some, Keto, diet pills, calorie counting.. and still have yet to break 300 lbs (except for whn i did atkins).. I am so happy to have found this App because I love to hear the success stories as well as the bad stories (evn tho they scare me 😳).. I have 1 thing left to check off and then I guess ill be waiting for the approval from my insurance and thn on to surgery... On one hand im like no dont do and thn the other im like you have done all of the test and been to so many appts just do it lol.. Hopefully ill b on the Losers Bench soon!!
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Diet changes leading up to surgery
SummerTimeGirl replied to NewMe_2021's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
So I just started the process the end of February. Have done all my blood work, taken certain classes and quizzes online, did my EKG, chest x-ray, H-pylori test, and visited with the cardiologist. All I have left is a visit with the dietician, pulmonologist, and the mental health specialist. Oh and one more visit with the surgeon. That's providing nothing else comes up that needs to be done/taken care of. But so far.......... Things I'm doing to prepare................. Taking a daily multivitamin (as suggested by dietician) Started Keto again (but not extreme this time, this time I'm eating fruits as suggested by the dietician, and keeping fats low) Stopped drinking Diet Pepsi and now consuming 64 oz (as suggested by the dietician) or more of water ONE cup of coffee a day (sometimes I would drink 2 or more a day) Tracking my food on Cronometer and in a separate journal that also asks about my mood energy, activity, sleep, etc each day Trying to eat 3 times a day and 1 snack (as suggested by the dietician) Adding in exercise at least 15 min a day, 3 days a week to START with a goal of 60 min a day, 5 days a week (also suggested by the dietician) What I need to work on............ The 30-30-30 rule as given by the dietician (no drink 30 min before a meal, eat the meal within 30 min, no drink for 30 min after) Slowing down my eating/chewing/making my meal stretch out over 30 min -
WLS in 2004, Regain, What to use for success? Hashimoto
Berry78 replied to gonefromthisgroup's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Not sure how much your tummy can hold, but the trick with keto, and other low-carb diets is to actually limit your meat/protein to 3oz, 3 times a day, and fill up the rest of the time on green veggies (add some nuts or cheese to round out your protein goal}. Test it out to see how much green stuff you can eat after eating 3oz of protein. If only a bite or two, then eat your protein and veggies separately. 3 oz of raw spinach and 3 oz cooked spinach look very different in the bowl.. see which one you can eat more of... I mention spinach, specifically, because I'll eat about 4oz cooked, and stuff is like a laxitive for me. (I do add a teaspoon of oive oil and a splash of vinegar and some spices for flavor). Green veggies need a little fat to help you absorb the fat-soluble vitamins. -
WLS in 2004, Regain, What to use for success? Hashimoto
gonefromthisgroup replied to gonefromthisgroup's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
what is camp gladiator? Sounds tough! I am interested to know if you all did good on Keto and how many carbs a day? I am NOT feeling well these days at all -
WLS in 2004, Regain, What to use for success? Hashimoto
gonefromthisgroup replied to gonefromthisgroup's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Sherrie, I sent you a PM and would like info on the group you mentioned. Berry78, I have just wondered if Keto worked for anyone after WLS, especially anyone who also suffers from Hashimoto Thanks! Sue -
LOL. I went through the same thing. You'd think that with the 80+ grams of protein I was getting daily with clear liquids that "technically" I wouldn't have had an energy problem, but I really did. It wasn't until I started back on solids that my energy came back. And as long as I stick to the high protein/low carb diet, I even find myself waking up, refreshed and ready to go, an hour or so before my alarm goes off! That has never happened to me before! So, good luck to you -- I'm glad to hear that putting more veggies into your diet and worrying less about calories seems to be helping. Also, If you are committing to a high protein/low carb diet, you may want to pick up some keto sticks at your pharmacy. You use these sticks each morning to measure whether your body is going into ketosis -- fat burning mode. In ketosis, your body goes into a metabolic state in which it burns its own fat for fuel. The deeper into ketosis you are, the more quickly you are, theoretically at least, burning fat. Thus, even if you hit a weight loss plateau, just knowing that you are in full fat-burning mode seems to help with sticking to the diet plan. In my experience, if you can maintain your metabolism at the third or fourth level of ketosis, you should see sustained and significant weight loss -- although, as with any other diet, YMMV. As with anything else, check with your doctor before going on a strict Atkins-like high protein/low-carb diet that will cause ketosis and, again, good luck!
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Yes I have Insta... I try and stay away from the keto pages. I tried that diet once and it made my cholesterol go way up. Sent from my SM-N960U using BariatricPal mobile app
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How did you feel two months post-op?
OutsideMatchInside replied to Clarevoyant's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
@@Clarevoyant You should be fine. They have Protein shakes and bars in the UK just like in America. You can get a salad with grilled meat and eat the meat off anywhere. 2 months post op your energy levels should be rising. You will have to make sure you get enough calories in each day for energy. In London you will be forced to walk a lot, unless you already live in NY or Chicago, it should really help with your weight loss. I am really excited for you that you have this opportunity. I wouldn't pass it up. Things to remember eating out, you can always get a sandwich, they usually have 2-4 ounce meat portions, and just eat the meat I do it all the time. It is an easy way to control how much you are eating out, and to get cold cuts. You can eat the top off of pizza. Like I said before get a salad with meat and eat all the meat first. This keto blogger lives in the UK so you might find some hints on here where to shop. http://ketodietapp.com/Blog 2 low carb UK restaurant reviews http://ketotheukway.blogspot.com/search/label/Restaurant%20Reviews Keto UK boards https://www.reddit.com/r/ketouk Just do your research and have a plan. If you have a plan you can always stay on plan. For example I know almost every restaurant has a chicken Cesar salad, so if there is nothing else I can eat on the menu I know I can get one and eat the meat off. Even slumming it at a casual place, they will have some kind of sandwich with cold cuts I can eat. If push comes to shove and you are stuck with street vendors, a kabob is better choice than fish and chips. Also the food in Europe tastes so much better than the US, you will really enjoy that post-op. Good Luck! -
I noticed when I was eating g like I did my macros was keto. In order for me to loss I have to eat under 1000 calories. It works. Sent from my SM-N950U using BariatricPal mobile app
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Too much protein shake?
theantichick replied to McKinneyMom's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Long time hereditary migraine sufferer here, too. My daughter actually was hospitalized with a status basilar migraine for a week when she was 16. Her neuro gave us some of the best advice, EVER. He said don't get hungry or thirsty, those are sure-fire migraine triggers. Also, if you drink caffeine, stopping it cold turkey will absolutely trigger it. Then there's all of the triggers that are specific to the individual - processed meat (nitrates), red wine, beer, aged cheese, weather, hormones, what have you. The pre-op diet wasn't too bad for me, but I'm convinced it's because my surgeon doesn't have a strict pre-op diet unless you already have liver problems. I was only asked to replace 2 meals a day with shakes, and make my 3rd meal and any Snacks low-fat and avoid processed grains and refined sugars, fruit was fine. I didn't do all of that as well as I should have, but it allowed me to lose a few pounds. I also cut out caffeine, but I did it VERY slowly. If you're drinking plenty of Water (100+ oz a day is what I consider well-hydrated), and you're drinking shakes regularly, then I would suspect that the lack of carbs in your diet is the culprit. You didn't say if you're pre-op or post-op. If you're pre-op then I would suggest talking to your surgeon's team and seeing if there's some way you can add back in some calories and complex carbs to help with the migraines. If you're post-op, then all I can offer is to gut through it. I get VERY ill in ketogenesis, and the first 3 weeks post-op I couldn't get out of keto without eating stuff with refined sugar in it. So I just kept up the Protein and water and pushed through. Also, something my daughter's neuro told us... whenever you have a headache (migraine or not) it starts an inflammatory cascade in your brain that will turn into migraines or turn into a string of migraines. He told us on any day we had a headache of any sort, when we went to bed that night to take 800mg of ibuprofen and whatever dose of Benadryl we were accustomed to (I can take high doses because I've taken it forever, my daughter usually just takes one OTC). Obviously, you'll want to check with your doctor before taking any meds like that, but I like to share that tidbit because it has helped us reduce the string of migraines thing, or stress/sinus headaches turning into migraines the next day. Good luck!! -
What am I doing wrong?
Arabesque replied to Martie!'s topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Oh yes. Most definitely don’t compare yourself to others. There are too many factors which influence our rate of loss: age, gender, staring weight, genetics, etc.. If you’re losing a couple of pounds a week on average you’re doing fine. As long as your weight loss trend is going down you’re golden & celebrate every pound & inch you lose. Don’t forget you likely will experience stalls along the way when you do t lose anything for a week or more. Watch keto. It’s very high fat & you may find your cholesterol levels are higher as your losing weight as it’s released from your fat. Better to look to low fat, low carb, low sugar high protein while you are losing. What plan did your surgeon & dietician give you? I’d avoid the popcorn too until you’re in maintenance. It’s very easy to overeat slider food. Congrats on your weight loss so far. -
How many Carbs a day ?
Apple1 replied to ayanna_vsg's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I am averaging between 15-25g net carbs daily. Net carbs are total carbs minus the fiber. Many people do well on a low carb keto diet. I get most of my daily carbs from vegetables and the rest from dairy. -
When can I Keto - 2 weeks post no loss
magpie26 replied to Fallinfast's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Keto is (was) not a fad diet. It's effective for children and some adults with seizures and other health issues. People assume it is a fad, all the new low carb diets are based on it. My nutritionist said if you wanted to do keto at stage 4 it's fine, but I'm not keen on giving up dairy and I'm growing green beans lol! -
Anyone else feel guilty eating mashed potatoes in the purée stage? Prior to surgery I was strict keto for 2 years and potatoes were like a deadly sin LOL Next weeks grocery run I think I'll be grabbing some mashed cauliflower...until then, the real thing won’t hurt since the quantity is so small, right? (like 2 tbsp)
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I was put on metformin, when I was diagnosed with diabetes, several years ago. It worked well. It improved my blood sugars. In addition to taking metformin, I started the keto diet. I lost 62 pounds in about 3 months. Of note, I started having hair loss. I don't know if it was the metformin, the diet, or the weight loss, but that's when I started losing my hair. I stayed on the metformin until the day of my surgery. The hair loss continued, even though I had stopped the keto diet and regained a bunch of weight.
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@@JamGuy I use myfitnesspal to track my intake. I've been doing low carb off and on for about 15 years and tracking calories as well, so I'm pretty familiar with the counts on most foods that I eat. What makes it easier for me is that I eat relatively the same things week after week and I keep my foods as clean as possible. I make most things and rarely go out to eat unless they have nutrition info available. Keto is really the only way I'm able to lose. I thought the sleeve would change that, but nope! Although, I find that I'm able to better manage my cravings for carbs and avoid them. I use net carbs, but I don't worry too much about it since I rarely eat "non-keto" foods. Sometimes my carb intake will be a little higher from things like baby carrots, but again, I don't worry about it much.
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I think the South Beach diet format is far better than keto and sustainable for life. South Beach can become a way of life.
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Bypass but with keto
I♡BypassedMyPhatAss♡ replied to mandy0518's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
True keto is high fat, moderate protein, low carb or ultra low carb. So I think most bariatric patients don't really hit the actual macros to be considered real keto. We're told to do lower fat, higher protein and complex carbs only if we're still hungry after we eat our protein and veggies - well that's a generalization, it does vary widely. But I think weight loss patients do low carb if anything at all but very few do actual keto. -
some people who are a ways out do Keto, but this early out, you have to make sure you're meeting your protein requirements and you can only handle so much food, so it might be challenging to do a strict Keto diet.
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I think it was like keto flu. Good news is after 3 days it's stopped. Thank you for your advice everyone!! It helped a lot. Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using BariatricPal mobile app
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I had bypass on 4/23/18. My starting weight was 340lbs. I'm currently 221lbs. That's a total weight loss of 119lbs! I honestly can't tell you a time I remember being this small my entire life. I'm so happy! First goal: 250lbs [emoji818] Second goal: 225lbs [emoji818] Third goal: 199lbs ...*pending* Final goal: 160-170lbs I never worked out until this month. These last 22lbs until onederland are stubborn. I'm also doing keto and intermittent fasting. This surgery changed my life. I'm almost positive I would be closer to 400lbs by now if I didn't have this surgery. Sent from my SM-G955U using BariatricPal mobile app
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Sugar Alcohols and Dumping Syndrome
omrhsn replied to CarmenG's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Both Aspartame and Sorbitol give me diarrhea and dumping. So I stopped taking those "zero sugar" drinks that are sweetened with these two and use regular white sugar in very small quantities instead. If I feel like having coke, I will get the regular coke and share it with my wife / son. The diet / lite coke will give me nausea / stomachache on the spot. Have you tried Stevia? I used that when I was on Keto before WLS and didn't have any issues with it. -
Happy birthday Arual85, I am 2 days away from my bypass surgery. I've been lucky in my pre-op to be able to have some foods (more keto focused) but I finally understand that sugar and carbs are my go-to food choices. A little nervous but I think everything is finally going right. Good luck x Sent from my RMX2001 using BariatricPal mobile app
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In my own previous weight loss experience, I lost 100lbs over 18 monthts doing keto. 250 to 150, and I had virtually no loose skin. I only started working out at 15 months, and had already lost 75lbs so it wasn't because of working out. Slower weight loss may be frustrating, but in my experience it is better in the long run!
