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Ugh, I'm sorry you're around such unpleasant people for so many hours of the day. I have the same peer pressure situation, but about drinking alcohol, not eating. Despite the fact I've said drinking will make me ill, not that it is for weight loss. But thankfully it's not a 5 days a week situation like yours at least.
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There are many ways to eat "around" your restriction. One of the most common is slider foods - something like chips or pretzels that usually make you thirsty so that you drink while eating them. This turns them to mush, which slides right past your restriction, enabling you to eat far more than normal. Other sliders are ice cream, soft fruit, bread, crackers, etc. You can pack in a lot of non-nutritive calories in a relatively short period of time. Another major way to fall of the wagon is liquid calories: alcohol, juice, energy drinks, soda, etc. You won't get any restriction from these either and they sure do add up.
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I have a HUGE amount of restriction. But you can definitely gain with that restriction. For instance I went on a 12 day vacation, and gained 4.5 lbs. Slider foods, alcohol, eating frequently, eating high calorie foods, all can and do lead to gain, no matter how little or how much restriction you have. It's cliche, but this surgery is a tool. You have to still make good food choices.
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Marijuana week after surgery?
CrankyMagpie replied to Joewy's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Smoke of any kind is going to be bad for your lungs and increase your chances of getting pneumonia post-surgery. That's a big risk. There aren't a lot of studies showing how many of the other tobacco-related risks apply to marijuana, so I'm not sure we can tell you how or whether it'll affect how fast you heal, whether blood clots are more likely, etc. But it seems risky? It's also likely to make it harder to modulate your appetite. And there are documented risks of people performing other addictive behaviors more obsessively, to compensate for their inability to eat to excess, which is part of why we're told to avoid alcohol for the first year. That reasoning applies to marijuana, too, even though it's not physically addictive in the same way alcohol is; you don't want your fun little habit to get totally out of control. My advice is to hold off for at least a while. Maybe a year is too much to ask, though that would be the wisest course. Maybe see how you feel after three months? Six, if you can handle it? -
To Those That Have Made Goal: How Have Other People Changed?
TakingABreak replied to White Sale's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
So, my girlfriends and I went out two weekends ago. It was spur of the moment and I didn't get all dolled up or put a lot of effort into looking good for the occasion. Needless to say, a little bit of liquid courage had me acting like the movie "I feel pretty". Literally, I talked to anyone who made eye contact with me or came within talking distance. I complimented people randomly and laughed with strangers. This is not something I would have done pre-weight loss. The next day, I couldn't help but chuckle to myself. My friends made comments that they've never seen me like that. That my energy was infectious. That the men were attracted to this confidence (even though I'm very happily married). This is why I said earlier, that I have changed. Alcohol may have played a contributing factor into it, but I know that I wouldn't have acted this way prior to surgery. -
Soo ... I actually had bread and alcohol, and so much other stuff at 3 weeks out. BUT, I knew this was not wise. I didn't come here asking if it was a good idea, I knew it wasn't. And I took full responsibility for the gain I had that week, and if I had had any other complications for it. I think it comes down to accepting personal responsibility.
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You are correct, some programs are way more thorough than others. I met with one nutritionist, one time... and it wasn't even weight loss surgery specific things we covered. It was mainly about nutrition basics. Then I had a group class that went into more specifics, but in no way could it or did it cover everything. But that's when I stepped up to the plate and did as much research as humanly possible, including reading threads on this forum. I was never going to allow my program nor my NUT to tell me everything I needed to know. I probably, no... definitely, know more than my NUT knows about nutrition for bariatric patients. I felt like she was there to fulfill a requirement, but didn't know the specifics about bariatric surgery or nutrition related to that. Some people are looking for validation to break the rules, and others truly don't know the rules. But I don't think its safe to blame just the doctor for that. I think we should know things like... not to drink alcohol or eat bread at 1 month post op. Those things are common sense. And those are what get under my skin.
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Many times when people come on here to post, especially to post questions about eating things before they should, I.e. advancing diet stages early, eating pizza or carbs, drinking alcohol, it is not that they are underprepared. They are seeking validation or at least trying to find others that have done the same without experiencing a negative outcome. I was given clear instructions on diet progression, what vitamins to take, foods to avoid, and even rate of weight loss to expect. Maybe there are a few programs out there with less preparation but most seem to have a 3-6 month prep time. This is just my experience from being here.
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Just had revision from Sleeve to SIPS
disco stu replied to disco stu's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Update: 20 weeks. Down approx 36lbs. Overall, I'm pleased. Slow and steady wins the race, and so far - knock on wood - things just keep headed in the correct direction; i.e. no re-lapse. I admit that it could be even better if I cleaned up some habits. I still eat fast food on the regular, and I was drinking A LOT of beer. I'm in the process of trying to cut back on the alcohol, so am excited to see what happens without an extra 1000 empty calories a day.... -
At work, I used a cover story of an illness, non life threatening or especially serious, to explain how little I eat, and not drinking alcohol. Despite my "explanation", I'm convinced some people believed I am seriously or even terminally ill. The last meeting I was at with my president in attendance, he avoided me like the plague! My company is non US based, and in that culture serious illnesses are taboo. So I make a definite effort when I'm around my non US colleagues to look my absolute best, be upbeat and energetic, etc. But it's clearly not entirely working
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OA isn't a diet group. It doesn't have a specific diet. No one knows that I had WLS except one person. She shared with the group that she had WLS. We text each other daily to offer support for our special needs. Nobody looks into your business. They know only what you tell them. It is a 12 step program patterned after Alcoholics Anonymous. If you go online, find a meeting near you and attend. You will find everyone helpful and supportive right out of the gate. Working the steps has also had positive affects in other facets of my life. Overall, a very positive experience.
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Intermittent Fasting
GreenTealael replied to GreenTealael's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Juniors cheesecake Sugar free low carb 290cals, 20g total carbs (0g sugar, 16g sugar alcohol,1g fiber, 3 net) 5g protein Everyone ate some before I could take a pic lol so here's the assortment -
Summer 2018 Surgery Buddies: POST-OP Discussion
J San replied to Ylime's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
copied from google.... Paleo=Meat, fish, eggs, vegetables, fruits, nuts, seeds, herbs, spices, healthy fats and oils. Avoid: Processed foods, sugar, soft drinks, grains, most dairy products, legumes, artificial sweeteners, vegetable oils, margarine and trans fats. What You Can't Eat on Whole30 Dairy. This means no cheese, cow milk, yogurt, cream, sour cream, kefir, and butter. ... Grains. This means no corn, rice, quinoa, wheat, rye, millet, sorghum, amaranth, buckwheat, bulgur, or sprouted grains. Alcohol. ... Legumes. ... Added Sugar. ... Carrageenan, MSG, and Sulfites. ... "Junk" Food. Paleo eating is a long term lifestyle, while Whole30 is meant to be a reset for your system. ... Whole30 diet eliminates all the same foods as paleo but also includes limits on: Sugar in all forms, including honey, maple syrup, coconut sugar. -
Hello All. I had my gastric sleeve surgery on June 16, 2016. I lost about 25lbs the first month and then suffered the loss of my father who was my best friend. After I lost my dad I ceased losing weight. I mourned the loss of him for quite some time...I still do really. For at least the first year after losing him I was in a horrible depressed state and didn't follow the rules of how I should eat post sleeve. I was eating until I felt sick, eating unhealthy foods and drinking (not alcohol) my calories. Finally after a year I figured out how to live day by day without him and started feeling happy and positive again. I started following the rules and being super vigilant with my health. I dropped 40 lbs in two months! Whoa. Then, after those two months of excellent weight loss I found out my husband and I were expecting. I went to my first sonogram excited and two seconds with the wand on my belly she told me it was twins! I was instantly excited as twins run in my family (I am the aunt to two sets of twin boys from the same mother.) After the excitement wore off I feared the pending weight gain. I told myself I was going to watch what I ate and not give into wild pregnancy cravings. I lied to myself. I gained 68lbs total through the pregnancy. After giving birth I lost an initial 37lbs the first two days postpartum. Then another 10lbs the following week. I have been stuck at 48 total lbs lost for months now but I also haven't been following the rules of how I should eat post sleeve again. It's time to get my butt in gear. Anyone else a couple years out starting over? I am just looking for tips and possibly success stories for motivation! HELP!
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Summer 2018 Surgery Buddies: POST-OP Discussion
BadWolf523 replied to Ylime's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I’m hoping that I start losing it soon. I don’t eat carbs, drink juice or alcohol. I should be losing way more. It’s frustrating. -
Revision from sleeve to Bypass Sept. 4th
Frustr8 replied to banksdea's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Like the old mantra Don't try to drown your sorrows in alcohol, they can swim. The few that don't swim do float to the top! -
Revision from sleeve to Bypass Sept. 4th
MarinaGirl replied to banksdea's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Good luck with your upcoming gastric bypass!! I hope you’re working on resolving any emotional eating issues as the new surgery won’t prevent you from eating poorly or overeating. It is also common to lose less weight with a revision versus an original surgery. But if you follow recommendations to eat dense protein first then non-starchy vegetables, and to avoid sugar, processed food, simple carbs, alcohol, and liquid calories, you should be successful. This new way of eating needs to be a long term lifestyle change, and not just until you reach your goal weight. You can do this! -
Here I grow again! I had surgery three years ago. It was a roller coaster ride, like everyone else. I did the pure liquid no carb pre op diet. I underwent surgery and after the initial feeling of having been through a bar fight, came out the other side ready to go! I was compliant with the whole thing, It was an amazing experience as the weight seemed to just melt off. . . until it didn't. I got down to about 250 pounds and hit a very long plateau. In response I went to the gym. . . A LOT. I managed to drop down to 210 pounds and decided to go in for skin removal surgery. Things went backwards from there. The plastic surgeon was HORRIBLE. He didn't place a drain, I developed a seroma the size of a pringles can (1 liter) and had an incision infection. The seroma kept filling up even after I went to a general surgeon to have it cleaned out and a drain placed. I was not able to exercise because of the pain. Old habits die hard. I became sedentary again, and I've gained back up to 257 pounds. Bad eating habits. A non supportive spouse. Too many carbs. Not enough exercise. Seroma is still there. I went back to my PCP yesterday and weighed in. Much to my horror I was at 257. When I looked at my weight history, 30 pounds of that has slowly crept up since January of this year. Compliance cannot be overstated. I went out and bought protein bars and yogurt. I'm cutting out any and all alcohol, and back to counting carbs. Since I'm a full time law student (at 46 years old with six kids at home) finding time to exercise regularly can be a challenge. Today I'm going to work some time after class into my schedule to go to the university's gym for at least 45 minutes to an hour each day (I have class 3 days a week). I didn't go down this long, and difficult road just to wind up back where I started. Glad to find this forum
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kuddos to you for wanting to take the step. I too got to a point I said "enough"!! I can't do this anymore. I'm a social person who is around food and alcohol all the time. But as I became this person who just regretted the constant food pain from eating so much and drinking just to drink. I pulled the plug and without a word to my friends I did it. I didn't want anyone to influence me from not doing it. I'm tired of not being in any social media pictures, pictures at functions with my kids or husband. I just avoided the camera all together. I follow the latest styles and couldn't achieve any look being the weight I was. I'm 4 day post op. only my family is aware of my surgery and I will find out who my true friends are in time. but right now, it's about me and getting a grasp of my life again. I know in my heart that when I achieve my goal weight and know my confidence is strong, I will make more friends. Already have, this forum is awesome!
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I NEED HELP! RNY in less than 2 weeks and I don’t know what vitamins to get!!
MarinaGirl replied to mdmiller9385's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
My surgeon was adamant to not take Flinstones or children’s vitamins post-WLS. He recommends Centrum or One A Day vitamins or their generics (e.g. Kirkland brand vitamins at Costco). I take One A Day Women’s 50+ Healthy Advantage vitamins (2x per day) because they don’t contain iron, which I take at another time. Note: You don’t have to be over 50 or a woman to take them. Heme iron absorbs better and doesn’t cause GI issues like ferrous sulfate. I take Proferrin ES, which I buy online. Most chewable vitamins contain sugar alcohols, which I can’t take post-GB because they cause nausea & vomiting. YMMV You do not have to take chewable vitamins after bariatric surgery. Make sure you get complete lab work at least once a year to see if you need to take more or less of any vitamins or minerals as every BODY has unique requirements. And if you have vitamin deficiencies BEFORE surgery you should correct them as quickly as possible and discuss them with your surgeon and PCP. -
What they won’t tell you after gbp
Orchids&Dragons replied to E.S's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
The nurse who showed me how to inject myself said it only burns if you don't give the alcohol enough time to evaporate. She was right. The only ones that hurt were when I got in a hurry. I did them for 2 weeks after surgery. -
I've seen some great posts here, so I'm hoping I'll get a response. Sorry that this is so long. I was sleeved end of April. My starting weight was 200lbs. I am 5'5, and 55 years old. I was sleeved in Thailand, because this is where I live now. I wasn't given a liquid diet recommendation, just no alcohol, and watch fat and carb intake. I ate normally the night before surgery. I had broth for 2 days, then they had me on scrambled eggs for two days. After that I ate chicken, regular chicken that I needed to chew a lot. Here I am about 5 months out with a weight loss of 30 pounds. I don't do much cardio, because of a bad knee (the reason for my sleeve was to lose weight for a major joint replacement in October). I lift every other day for 1.5 hours and I use 10 to 20 pound weights for arms and shoulders. I've noticed inches lost, but not nearly as much weight lost as I expected. The only advice the doctor gave me is to cut out all grains, rice, potatoes, dairy, sugar and fruit. In other words, just eat protein and veg. I was told to take a multi-vitamin, iron, and calcium with a D supplement. And drink lots of water. I was very strict the 1st two months (and still no major weight loss), started "slipping" at the beginning of July with oatmeal or whole grain bread once a day. Went a little nuts toward the end of the month with the occasional chocolate and chips, and in August really refocused myself. Still nothing. My average calorie intake is between 850 and 950 right now. I woke up today with sore joints (not sore muscles). Please, I know you aren't doctors (mine is inaccessible, due to location), but I'd appreciate your suggestions. Thank you so much! Also, at times of the day I seriously feel ravenous...not just hungry, but I could seriously eat anything. I'm a lot hungrier during the day than I expected to be.
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Hi all...had surgery tuesday and got home thursday evening. Everything went well and the doctor even fixed a hiatal hernia that I didn't know I had. Surgery was about 2hrs long. I have 5 incisions and 1 is really sore because they worked it a lot. It feels like alcohol being poured on an open wound so, I'm taking my Percocet routinely. I had 1/4 cup pudding and 1/4 cup cream of wheats today and it's hard getting my water in. It's after 8pm and I still need another 20 ounces to drink. I'm thinking I'll go with protein shakes tomorrow so I can get some nutrition with my liquids.
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LOL yeah there were times when I was like... OK Crap... start deep breathing to get some of the alcohol to process before you end up face down on the bar. It sneaks up quickly! It does seem like the "Drunk" doesn't stick around for as long though too, which I found interesting.
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Caroline125, sweet Miss Caoline in North Carolina, are things going better for you? I am your surgery twin from Ohio, so I'm going through all this with you. I started my Verdompt liver shrinking diet on August 1st, my body is somewhat resigned to it by now. I have lost 12-13 lbs as of last Monday. Is it fun? Not Really Am I glad I'm doing it? Not especially, I call it a Dietary Purgatory, takes forever, not a comfy place, takes a lot of praying to get set free. But I will do it, I remember my surgeon in July when he palpated the area on my abdomen where he will be working, felt liver margins under my right ribs, not a good sign,means I have NASH, non alcoholic steatohepatitis, means I have a fat flubbery liver.Looked up, said" You will be doing,my diet?" Busted, no eat a little of what tastes good up until my surgery ! Wahaa!💦 For every week you are on a liver-shrinking diet your liver gets smaller by 2.4%, so if I can stick it out my liver will be 12% smaller. So bravely I set forth. I know what you are feeling n mine is a little better, I start out to do things, get a quarter to half-done, it's like a vacuum cleaner switched on and suckedmy strength out and I too get weak and dizzy. It is rough to pose as a Southern Belle, rapidly fan myself and say" Lawzey me, I do feel slightly faint. I believe I will just sit down!" See I'm still built like a plowhorse, somebody would slap me on the rump and tell me to get out to the field and start plowing. I try telling them I'm delicate, refined and think i' m are and sturdy like brick. Yeah if you're allowed salt , just a smidge. Herbs and lemon pepper are better, love it on a baked tilapia fillet. Try getting more fluids in, that's what I got told when I complained of dizzy. I think it just means when I collapse I'll make a splashing sound. Can you add a protein shake or 2,? 700 is low on calories, my diet is 1000 and a lot of people's are higher than that and they still are losing weight. How about a tossed salad with low cal diet dressing? I can have 2 T as long as they don't total over 90 cal. And it doesn't have to be. Skinny Gal, I've Equate, Ken s Steakhouse and Western brand low cal, like a French but it tastes the same as the full strength. If you need anybody who understands your trials and sorrows i'm available.
