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I am 2 months post op. I am sad to say I was craving coffee so bad yesterday and stopped to get me an iced latte at McDonalds with fat free milk and sugar free vanilla syrup. I felt so guilty for drinking caffeine (they didn't offer it in decaf). I don't smoke anymore (smoked for 17 years) don't drink pop or alcohol. Needed something to unwind from a stressful day at work. Now worried I will make that a bad habit!!
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I saw yet another patient this week who was 1.5 years post gastric bypass. Lost 150 pounds, and developed an ulcer. I asked one of the GI docs about why it happens and he said that the protective lining is gone and so anything that causes inflammation or irritation of the tissues can lead to an ulcer. This includes alcohol (extremely irritating to tissues) and smoking which increases inflammation. Regular acid reducers cannot reach the area of the ulcer, which is why Carafate is used. Yes, ulcers can heal with the medication, but ulcers can also kill you if they perforate and bleed badly.
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I was also shocked to hear about Anna Nicole's death. I used to watch her show and I used to feel so bad for her. It seemed like she was always disoriented on screen, but when they talked to her off screen, she seemed normal and sad. She did love her son I remember and it seemed like she tried to be the best mom she could. I also remember seeing a documentary on her when she went to visit the small town she was from. She was so nice and down to earth to people that remembered her. We all have an addiction of some sort. I know mine was food for so many years. Hers was drugs and alcohol, probably to kill the pain she felt. It probably got so much worse when her son died and mixed emotions that is coincided with the birth of her baby girl. Someone else was saying maybe she had postpardom depression? I also hope to that her father loves her and gives her a stable life, with unconditional love and free of any abuse.
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I'm 3 months post op. I'm at a stall. Lately I've been socializing a lot and I've been drinking alcohol. I have like 2-3 drinks, rarely any carbonation. Is this ok? I feel fine. I don't get sick. Anyone wanna share their thoughts?
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Hi Katydid, and welcome to our forums. I am sorry you had so much trouble with the band. There are just some of us that seemed destined to have problems with it. I am also a band to sleeve revision and the difference is night and day. I am so much happier with the sleeve. You are not a failure. food is just as much an addiction as alcohol and drugs are. The difference is, we can't just quit eating. Until someone has actually walked in our shoes, it is difficult for them to understand how hard it is to commit to exercise and diet. Many of us need help, such as weight loss surgery. If it were as easy as some make it out to be, then there would be no obese people in this world. We are all here to support one another. You will find we are more a big family here than anything. And we are here for you whenever you need us.
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13 days post op and struggling
nadinexx replied to nadinexx's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
I don't know about alcohol as I didn't drink before I had surgery anyway, I wouldn't have any this early but you should ask your surgeon and see what he says.in the meantime if I find out anything I shall let you know sorry couldn't be much help x Sent from my SM-G920F using the BariatricPal App -
The good, bad and the ugly. CARBS!
jess9395 replied to heycrystal2052's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I'm in maintenance and also run 20-30 miles per week and do yoga 5-6 hours. I still limit my refined carbs, but between dairy, fruit, veggies, beans and the occasional sweet potato I get about 120-140 carbs per day. I do allow myself refined carbs once a week or so in limited amounts. In the weight loss phase I kept to 30-40 per day and almost all was dairy. "Net carbs" is total carbs - fiber -sugar alcohols (not processed by the body) I always counted net carbs and still do. -
When your spouse/significant other is still obese...
dhrguru replied to dhrguru's topic in The Lounge
My sister who had VSG has never made it to goal. her starting weight was over 300#, lowest she made it to was about 250ish. She works out hard core, but IMO wasn't eating well and drinks too much alcohol. She is now @ 260 and doesn't like the fact I'm approaching where she is. She is working at eating better. My neice who had lap band lost almost all her excess weight, from over 300 down to 178ish. She has gained back to about 230. She's young and in love for the first time in her life-- love will make you gain every time :-) Though-- her BF just had VSG-- so i think she's determined to not let him get lower than her. My cousin has a band complication now and had to be unfilled-- and she has started to gain. Her insurance won't cover revisions- so she's stuck. I chose RNY because I saw my sister with VSG was still able to eat a lot of crap after her surgery. I knew the malabsorption feature would help *if* I chose to eat crap. And we both loved sweets...I also wanted the 'safeguard' of dumping to keep me away-- but it looks like I tolerate sugars so far. My sister gets heartburn and throws up more than I care for-- I didn't want to live like that. (and for the record-- I thrown up a handful of times in my life-- mostly pregnancy related-- anything beyond that is abnormal in my head.) I never wanted band-- too many complications and too much risk of not maximizing my weight loss considering my high starting BMI. -
Today is my first time drinking protein. I would only eat tilapia for lunch and dinner etc. but i also drink alcohol on weekends. And basically eat anything just in small portions
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Miitiga -I am Italian too. Everythibg you said totally applies to me. I'm not afraid of the surgery. I'm afraid of losing the comfort of food. Like an alcoholic misses his alcohol - but still understanding that he must abstain. I'm scheduled for 11/5. I'm totally scared that I will be a freak who will never enjoy food again.
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2 weeks, 3 days out... can I drink yet?
gdc posted a topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hi Need to know if anyone drank when they were approximately 2 weeks+ out from surgery date... (drank .. alcohol)? What will happen if I do? What damage can it cause? Only my stomach was removed, so I dont think it will have any effect as my liver and everything else is still exactly the same as before... Im going to a convention and will want to party it up for sure... so wondering if I will be able to drink? Does having a smaller stomach effect how I handle alcohol now? BTW, i dont really drink beer or wine, I mostly stick to vodka/gin. -
how is everyone getting this gauze tape residue off
JuliannaJ replied to Beautyandbeyond's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Sometimes baby oil will do it too but rubbing alcohol does seem to work best. -
Weight Loss Surgery & Depression/Suicide....working on article, can you help a fellow patient?
Beth Pets replied to SamanthaNoyes's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
When I quit smoking I went through almost a year of depression and anxiety. Finally, my body became adjusted to the intense change I had put it through by breaking an addiction. I fully expect to face the same problems with weight loss. If it were easy to break an addiction, everyone would just toss their cigarettes, drugs, alcohol and chocolate cake and take up knitting! Even if you can mentally adjust it takes many months, even years, for your body chemistry to calm down. I would not be surprised to hear that there is an increase in chemical imbalance after weight surgery but I have not found any legitimate studies that indicate an increase in suicide. Can you please provide a link to these studies that you mention? Otherwise, it seems a bit irresponsible to drop a subject line like that on a message board like this. -
Tell Us Where You're From!
lali replied to Sleevie WonderLand's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
hi my names is laury n im getting the gastric sleeve done on Tuesday the 30 of aug if hurricane irene lets me lol... i have a few questions about recovery such as how long till u can actually start eating ur normal foods n drinking alcohol. -
Omg Omg Omg Omg Omg Omg - I Got A Date!
Strangefruit posted a topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I am still breathless with excitement...and fear. Oct 22 I am getting sleeved! It kinda sucks that it is the day after my birthday, so clearly no food or alcohol based celebrations... but clearly, food and alcohol based celebrations are WHY I am 100lbs overweight, right? I keep - literally - pinching myself to see if this long wait is almost over. I started the program at Kaiser Permanente in November of 2011. And now I have a date. Wow. I am almost giddy. -
At work, I used a cover story of an illness, non life threatening or especially serious, to explain how little I eat, and not drinking alcohol. Despite my "explanation", I'm convinced some people believed I am seriously or even terminally ill. The last meeting I was at with my president in attendance, he avoided me like the plague! My company is non US based, and in that culture serious illnesses are taboo. So I make a definite effort when I'm around my non US colleagues to look my absolute best, be upbeat and energetic, etc. But it's clearly not entirely working
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Butch- I once went to an OA meeting and this man was sharing how he put the fast food in the back seat of his car so he wouldn't eat it on the way home, but then he was reaching back to get some fries and nearly had a serious accident. That always stuck in my head because I realized what a serious addiction I had to food. Rosie O'Donnell once wrote an article in her magazine(before she went BAD-haha) about her addiction to food and she wrote it just like a drug addict and it was very good. Like the cop pulls her over and instead of alcohol on her breath and bloodshot eyes she has frosting on her face and a glazed over sugar rush in her eyes. I'm glad we decided to address our addiction and I hope we all have the strength to stay on track until the end. I see the beast trying to sneak up on me and sometimes I let him. Thanks for the wake-up call.
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Alcohol (Wine) Post Op???
Jachut replied to ImaGoofball's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Moderate wine consumption - like one standard unit perhaps five days out of seven is good for your health, that's mainly red wine. White is not quite as good, although it still does have benefits. Its protective of your heart, although that's balanced off against the bad things about alcohol which is why small quantities is a good idea. Its definitely not empty calories though, we've all been told by mum's cardiologist to keep up the habit! Drinking wine "like crazy" is not a good idea! At my information session, Prof. O'Brien stated that my clinic's patients who drink moderately and regularly have better weight loss results than non drinkers, but they dont know exactly why. Personally, I'd have a glass of wine with dinner four or five days a week. -
Alcohol (Wine) Post Op???
HeatherO replied to ImaGoofball's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I agree with Jachut that red wine is healthy in moderation. I don't drink alcohol anymore but I do take in a light dark grape juice to try and take in some of those same benefits on occasion. I did get a warning from my doctor that you have to be careful with alcohol intake due to transferring addictions. Some of us are obese due to food addictions or emotional eating, and if we are not careful it might be a little too easy to begin over indulging in alcohol. However, taken in moderation and considering the calorie content while avoiding carbonation is not a bad way to go. -
The 1st Day Of My Gastric Sleeve Surgery Journey
GetInMyBelly replied to GetInMyBelly's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
Checking in: getting sharp pains like I did post surgery on right side of belly button n been having increased acid n throwing up this month. It's either all because I am eating late. Eating too frequently, upping my sodium n it's insane how dehydrated I can get so quickly. However I am still drinking coffee a lot. I get huge headaches now. I do exercise more. But I feel that I get weak and tired pretty fast. Maybe some of this Is mental because of birthday blues. I try to stay away from alcohol because I'm a major lightweight now with the sleeve. I burp soooooo much it's so unladylike! I take pribiotics again, although they r so expensive. I try to only eat organic n all natural. I wore pants for the first time in ten yrs n all of a sudden everyone thinks I'm super skinny. Lol. It's just cuz I wore baggy skirts and tops for so long. I just hit a yr in oct since the surgery n I'm feeling healthy for the most part. I try my best to keep my sleeve in good shape, but I don't know why I must eat until it hurts sometimes or eat junk sometimes. I would be devastated if god forbid I seriously mess this up for myself after altering my organs. Anyway, I'm thankful for a lot and for being alive. I wish I didn't have sagging skin n that I focused more on toning...still... I weigh 140 (+) and I started at 265 (+\-). -
Call the Bariatrics police!
MyNewLife28 replied to jackiemc1987's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I would just like to pose this question... Why would you feel the need to drink so soon after surgery while your stomach is still healing? Why would you take a chance after coming this far to mess things up and possibly hurt yourself? Even though there may not be evidence that it will hurt you, why would you chance it? You could wait at least a couple months out until your stomach was fully healed. Who knows what kind of affect alcohol has not only on your new stomach but your other organs because the digestion in your stomach is now different. Those are just some of the questions I would ask. Just because you can, doesn't mean it's good for you. If you need to drink that badly that you can't wait until your stomach is fully healed then I think there may be a problem. -
Call the Bariatrics police!
Slimsoon1988 replied to jackiemc1987's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Just because one can drink 6 glasses of alcohol weeks after surgery and be "fine" after does not mean one did not cause damage to their sleeve or self. This is when the slippery slope begins. Oh I had 6 glasses of alcohol and I'm good so it's ok! Let me try again! Oh I can have 6 glasses of alcohol and still lose weight so that means I did good today. Some of these post are concerning indeed. Trust me I'm no alcohol police. I'm 3 months out and have had a glass of wine twice. And plan to certainly drink A glass of wine during special occasions and social gatherings in the future but I wouldn't have dare compromised my healing process by downing alcohol 2 weeks after surgery which is a critical part of healing. My post is not to judge or make anyone feel bad because what is done is done this post comes from pure concern of some of the dangerous actions taking by some. -
Call the Bariatrics police!
Band07 replied to jackiemc1987's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Mind you, this information is for people with whole functioning stomachs. Not fresh surgical lines, staples, and a stomach reduced to the point where a small ulcer could be major.: Put simply, alcohol irritates your digestive system. Drinking – even a little – makes your stomach produce more acid than usual, which can in turn cause gastritis (the inflammation of the stomach lining). This triggers tummy pain, vomiting, diarrhoea and, in heavy drinkers, even bleeding. On the less serious end of the scale, drinking can make it more difficult to digest food and absorb vital nutrients. That’s because alcohol reduces the amount of digestive enzymes which the pancreas produces to help us to break down the fats and carbohydrates we eat (1). (1) NHS Choices website, Gastroesophageal reflux disease: introduction. The Information Standard member organisation. Last reviewed: 29/05/2014. Available at:http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Gastroesophageal-reflux-disease/Pages/Introduction.aspx Thank you ! That is the most helpful comment Iv read on this entire thread ! Interesting and also thought provoking, makes sense too. -
In The Newspaper This Morning
cfurrey replied to lassie's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
There is a thread on this forum that has a detailed article about wls and alcohol problem it wasnt long ago maybe searching back you can get more info! -
In The Newspaper This Morning
NWgirl replied to lassie's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I read this article on another post a few days ago and it is only something related to band or bypass. The cause is that alcohol is metabolised differently after those surgeries, so people can drink and drink and the effect wears off quickly, so they drink more. It's not necessarily a replacement of a food addiction, just a thing with how it runs through the body.
