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It's pretty normal to hold more food after a year or two from being sleeved. Makes it a challenge to lose weight and maintain. The weight loss is also painfully slow. Cravings are tough. Once I have carbs/sugar I crave them more. I have to get my discipline back to get the scale to move. Many people go back to basics. Logging, protein and keeping calories down. This may be more information than you want - Feel free to ignore it. The calculator below helped me out. It calculates specifically to you. (sex, age, height, weight, activity level) After you enter your information you will see three tabs (maintaining) (cutting) (bulking) Click cutting to get your macros. enter the numbers into myfitnesspal or food log of your choice - Yes, you can have carbs - It will give you carbohydrate levels low moderate high. Start with moderate and see if you go into weight loss mode...If not go to low carb ratio. This works with any type of diet you are into (palo, keto vegetarian etc) https://tdeecalculator.net/
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I never drove a car. Never. Ever in my life. Not for 18 years. And then there was the day when I drove a car for the first time. I never stented a carotid artery. Never. Ever in my life. Not for 41 years. And then there was the day when I did it for the first time. So the answer to your question is: If you never learnt good food habits in the fist place - learn to have them now! This is not about magic! This is about learning new skills by practicing them! Practicing them over and over and over and OVER again, until they feel like second nature to your brain. Honestly? Some people have to learn the hard way that this particular way didn't work for them. You can provide help/guidance along the way but in the end people choose their own way and that is not always the way that works out fine. Some people need a second chance because they messed up first. If these people are honest with themselves they should realize that they made mistakes along the way and now they have a chance to do it in another way. If they choose to make the same mistakes... well, not everyone will be successful. In the end it's just as simple as that. What rubs me the wrong way is that so many people seem to come back with a regain after they were quite successful and are on their way to make the same mistakes again, fueled by the "advice" to "go back to basics" and to "try harder". And because they were so successfully losing once they try to do the same thing they did back then - not realizing that they're making the same mistakes by going back to these same old strategies that didn't work in the first place for them. You're gung-ho about it, you eat low carb/lowfat/keto/lowcalorie/whateverrocksyourboat, you go to the gym five times a week, you follow all these fancy rules, you do this, you do that and more and then... something happens, whatever that something might be for this person and BOOM - things go down the drain. And what are you going to do then? Trying again to live a lifestyle that's obviously not going to make you happy? Or are you taking a leap of faith and try something different?
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Lap Band to Gastric Sleeve Revision Surgery 6/24/2015
Seattle51 posted a topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Greetings Gastric Sleevers! My name is Jay. I am 45 years old and I have been Morbidly Obese my entire Life. Here is my story. I had a Work Physical in December 2006. When I stepped on the scale I weighed 326lbs. That was the most Obese I had ever been, and enough was enough. I had had it. I needed to do something drastic to stop the weight gain. I decided to have a Lab Band. At the time I didnt want to have any physical changes to my body, and people were having very good weight loss success on the Band. In February of 2007, I had my surgery. From February 2007 to September 2007 the band worked great!!! I weighed in at 207lbs. I was extremely happy!!! But sometime in September the tubing to the band developed a kink and then the tubing cracked and the band was worthless. March of 2008 I underwent my second surgery, this time it was a port and tubing replacement. Everything seemed fine until I went in for my first fill. When they tried to fill the band they werent able to. The tubing was kinked again!!! Are you F'ing kidding me? I had enough and was just going to do my best on what the surgeon had put in the band ( I think it was 9cc's). It wasnt enough, I started to gradually put on weight. In 2012 I had enough again. I went in to have the band filled under X-Ray Fluroscopy. For whatever reason the band took in 15 cc's The band I had was only supposed to hold 12. Needless to say the band was closed off, and I couldnt eat or drink anything. Two days later I had emergency surgery to release the band. The surgery went well, but the Surgeon didnt replace the band. When I went in for a fill they put in the Max CC's of 12. Guess what? No restriction. Yup in was stretched out so much it was ineffective again! I had had enough with the Lap Band, it was nothing but a big giant headache for me. I decided to have a Gastric Sleeve in 2015. I had my surgery on June 24th 2015. The day of the surgery I weighed in at 275lbs. Today is September 11th and I am down to 240lbs. I am very happy with my Sleeve, but the adjustment to the new diet was very hard for me. I am doing 3 Protein shakes a day and I added 1 KETO OS drink a day to my diet. It has made a huge difference. My energy levels are through the roof and I feel absolutely Fantastic!!! The weight is coming off twice as fast for me ( from 2 pounds a week to 4) I took the time to research this product and it is the best decision I have made in a long time. Check it out for yourself: http://C7W6R4.pruvitnow.com -
3 month supervised diet
GrungeGrownUp replied to brejones89's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Why no Keto? -
3 month supervised diet
BadWolfGirl replied to brejones89's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Low carb low fat high protein but not keto. Veggies, fruits, etc. Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk -
Healthy Eating on a budget
Sosewsue61 replied to Krisbell's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Keto is like Atkins, which is low carb. And most successful wls patients eat fairly low carb to stay away from trigger foods that make you crave starch and sugar, useless carbs. -
Healthy Eating on a budget
OutsideMatchInside replied to Krisbell's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
What do you like to eat and not eat and what is your meal prep time like? If you could afford Hello Fresh then you should easily be able to afford regular groceries. Those delivery services are expensive. I'm single so I just cook for me, but I keep my food costs low by keeping my diet simple and clean. I don't make recipes. They require a lot of ingredients for the most part and few things that I am ever going to finish as a single person. I eat a cut of meat and veggies. i cook my meat either pan fried, baked or grilled. I eat various cuts of steaks, pork and fish. I create variety in the method of preparation and the spices. The one thing I do splurge on is spices and spice blends. I purchase spices at https://www.penzeys.com/ they have a lot of sugar free and salt free spice blends. I also like https://flavorgod.com/ spices. They are very large containers that last a long time. I order the packs and leave the unopened ones in the fridge to keep them fresh. I see people complaining a lot in my keto groups about the cost of keto, but it is only expensive if you are making a bunch of recipes and buying lost of specialty items. Eating clean is very cheap. I do make recipes every now and then, but even with that I buy one container of coconut flour a year from Sam's club, and 2 bags of almond meal a year from Trader Joe's. -
Pre-Op almost done!
Arabesque replied to PCOS_Mama94's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I actually only lost 2.1kgs in the two weeks before surgery. So relax you’ll likely be ok especially as you were only required to do 2 weeks. I did lose a total of 5.2kgs in the 6 weeks between getting the referral from my GP & my surgery. I started to make changes straight away to start preparing for the pre surgical shake diet I’d heard about & then I only had to follow keto for the two weeks. Not complaining though 😆. -
Any sleevers doing a ketogenic diet?
BigUtahMan replied to BigUtahMan's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
Same, keto has it merits to brake the carb cravings, but diminished returns after that. -
Any sleevers doing a ketogenic diet?
BigUtahMan posted a topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
I have been in Ketosis for several weeks by keeping my net carbs under 30 grams a day. Seems to work well by eliminating hunger from my day to day life. Just curious how many others are doing Keto as well? Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App -
I’m on day 10 post op. I had the sleeve too and I got the hunger feeling started yesterday but I noticed I didn’t have enough protein intake. I guess I have a mindset of 40-48g of protein but my dietitian advised me today that I can take more proteins. I was counting the bone broth as my protein intake which made me hungry a bit although I’m using the Paleo/Keto friendly broth with 10g of protein. I changed it today and I’m not hungry. Can’t wait for the soft/puréed stage next week. I started watching videos on YouTube and it’s interesting and I found them helpful for our next stage.
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I am also 12 years out. Lost a lot of weight SW was 310 day of surgery I was about 265. I gained quite a bit back.... and 3 years ago started Keto and now I am about 145 (pre covid I was 135....gotta lose the covid pounds now) I was going through a divorce when I had my surgery and I never had good habits after. Basically I replaced food with alcohol (was not a drinker prior to WLS). Now I don't drink and take tons of vitamins. My labs have never been better but I still struggle with healthy eating habits. Every day though gets better and Keto was a lifesaver.
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I don't understand how I gain weight now?
SAD HATTER replied to akreese02's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
When you eat keto (basically high protein, good fats, no carb) your body enters ketosis. Eating carbs will stop ketosis. Your body will retain water again until you re-enter ketosis. That can take a week. One cheat can stall you a week or cause water gain. If you plan a cheat, ditch the scale. For at least 2 weeks. -
I'm very sensitive to smells especially mouth odors... and now I'm on the offending end 🤢 I've worked in oral surgery for 28 some years and I can smell rotting enamel and perio.. Since surgery I have yuck mouth and I cannot make it go away. Granted, water intake isn't up to what I used to consume and my diet has been almost keto like... this morning my breath was so bad it made me nauseous..🤢 10 days post op sleeping 1/2 way seated upright.. I don't want to have that breath.. smells like I'm pooping out of my mouth...🤢🤢🤢🤢 Any suggestions? Will it go away soon? Lapband placed: 8/2011 Lapband removed: 3/2017 VSG: 8/2/2017
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So actually, "Nahmy" (Normy the cheers guy as said by Cliff Claven), aside from using ketones after WLS--it's a little known fact that some of the cutting edge research being done on cancer and dietary intervention today is in the area of the application of a ketogenic diet and supplementation with external sources of ketones. Turns out it may not be "full of gump" or hocus pocus. This researcher, Dr. Dominic D'Agostino is the one of the shiznits in the keto/low carb community.
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How do you break the habit?
MowryRocks replied to JaneDarcy's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I started out with a specific plan. I decided to do a 1200 calorie diet. I did a 1200 calorie modified ketogenic diet Monday through Friday and on the weekends I still did 1200 calories, but if I wanted something specific on the weekend, I had it and kept within my calories. I did this for the first three months of my 6 month medically supervised diet before going full keto for the last three months. I ate the same thing everyday for Breakfast and lunch. Breakfast: 2 eggs, any style and a Oikos Triple Zero yogurt (any flavor) For lunch I had a Premier Protein shake and a Sargento Balanced Break. For dinner, I had 2-4oz of meat, with a steamed vegetable. Since the diet was high in protein, it made it easier because I wasn't hungry as often. It really kept me satisfied. If I felt like I needed a snack, I had one. Typically sugar free Jell-O or Sugar free pudding. I also stopped caffeine right away. I figured why prolong the inevitable. Good Luck finding the right thing for you! -
Hi! Consider a dietary version of a Spring Cleaning first then perhaps consider intermittent fasting or keto/low carb but naturally ask your team for guidance first
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Binging before surgery
OutsideMatchInside replied to Melbournegirl's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I did not have to lose weight for surgery. I knew I was going to have a long liquid diet. I had all the food funerals I wanted. I am really glad that I did, because now when I have a craving, I can say to myself, " you had plenty of that", and remember when I did. It has made things a lot easier post-op. Especially when the time since I had anything to chew on seemed further away I don't know how people for 6 months of dieting, then a liquid diet, then post-op. One thing that I know now that I was sure about before surgery is that I can eat, fairly normally (for me I was already a lowcarb/keto person, I just fell off the wagon a lot), just in small portions. I do not feel deprived at all. Those food funerals were not really needed but I am still really glad I had them, because they helped me get through some dark days. -
I violate thermodynamics and it's crap
(Deleted through replacement replied to (Deleted through replacement's topic in Rants & Raves
I sort of weigh my food. Mostly I get food in a known weight quantity and eat a known fraction of it. So, if I get a pound of pork tenderloin, and cut it evenly into quarters, each is roughly a quarter pound. I'm at least eating an accurate weight over a few meals. I probably need to get a food scale, but I've always balked at that because it feels a bit obsessive and sucks the fun out of meals a bit. I might still try. I do keep track of calories and macros on MyFitnessPal. I tend to do pretty well, though anytime I ever dare to have a sandwich I kick myself because bread is so dang caloriffic. I try to eat mostly meat dishes, skipping the bread and pasta and such. I'm not keto, though. (If I were keto, I'd totally weigh like 10 pounds less, though honestly it doesn't make a single difference in my inches it seems.) Yeah, I definitely need a new scale. This one is screwy. I've been procrastinating lol. Yup, I've had my thyroid tested like five times over the past five years. Keeps coming back "fine, not quite low." I did go on Synthroid once and it made no difference, so it was discontinued. I'm eating 1000-1200 calories a day, with occasional mistakes. I know I'm not perfect, but I'm doing my best. My guess is I need to have more NEAT (non-workout exercise, basically), but I have a sit-down computer job, and when I get interrupted, it's hard to focus. That puts a bit of a damper on walking around a lot. >< I'm trying, at least, and my clothes fit some better. Notably, I don't get food cravings nearly so much. I used to be the sort of person who could never eat just a couple pieces of chocolate -- I'd eat the whole bag, so I had to never keep sweets in my house whatsoever. Now, I can actually do stuff in moderation. I also don't eat when I'm bored almost at all anymore, and I don't get random sugar cravings every day. I don't get nearly as hangry, though now I get physical stomach pains from being hungry if I don't keep up with meals. I'm guessing this is a hormonal change from part of my stomach having atrophied due to being folded up and unusable. -
6 Months Down, Stalled for A Month of That. Here's some encouraging pics!
NerdyMHC replied to NerdyMHC's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hi Jessica! Great job with your weight loss! I think carbs might have a little to do with my stall. I also think that my working out has something to do with it, oddly enough. We have a new gym in town that does some pretty intense workouts and I go Mon, Weds, and Fri. I can't help but wonder if this sudden change in workout might be causing a little bit of the stall, as well as maybe building muscle. I am going to try the Keto diet to limit my carbs and hope that that, combined with my inability to eat a lot and working out break my stall! Good luck to you on breaking yours! -
I'm new here, too, and haven't seen my nutritionist yet, either, but he suggested, preop, I go low carb high protein. A ketogenic diet. He also said I could use Atkins, but he thinks thats dangerous long term and that keto is more sustainable and closer to how I'll have to eat afterwards, anyway. I wish I could help you more.
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I gave these a try tonight and they were actually pretty good. Its sliced mozzarella baked til its golden, then you roll whatever you want in it. I used shredded chicken, and some seasoned black beans and corn. I was only able to finish like 2 if them lol, but that's because it's been really hot and I haven't eaten much. Sent from my SM-G950U using BariatricPal mobile app
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Hey everyone so I'm new to the vsg world. And I have been having trouble loosing weight. I have PCOS. So this makes it extra hard. I was looking in the keto diet. Has anyone tried it. And how successful are you or have you been. kira marrie ♡
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Eat the carbs in your potato, rice, and fruit. Unless your Dr. has told you otherwise. All plans are different and my plan didnt want me going full keto.
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Fibromyalgia Sleevers
ILOVETEXAS210 replied to ILOVETEXAS210's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Here’s a link with some info: https://www.tasteaholics.com/keto-diet/what-is-keto-flu-how-to-help/
