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Why different diets from different doctors?
BigSue replied to Normandagle's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
My plan allowed refried beans in the puréed stage, but they said to purée the beans before eating them (even though they’re already mashed, there are still some lumps). I don’t see why you couldn’t do that unless they’re concerned about the carbs or the fiber or something. I ate a lot of refried beans with Genepro during my puréed stage! i think the reasons plans differ so much is that everybody responds slightly differently to the surgery, so there’s no one single plan that works for every patient. I think most surgeons do their best to come up with a plan that will work for most patients, and this is probably based on their own patients’ experiences. There are definitely similarities among almost all plans, but I’m guessing each surgeon tweaks the plan a bit as they go. Maybe yours noticed that a lot of patients had problems with beans during the puréed stage. It would be easiest to use the strictest rules for everyone, but they also try to balance it with compliance, because they realize that a lot of patients won’t stick with a plan that is excessively restrictive. I’ve adhered pretty closely to my surgeon’s plan, except that I stayed on puréed foods for a few weeks longer than required because I was afraid to try soft foods at two weeks and didn’t want to take any chances. I’m also not eating as many calories as they say I should because I’ve found it’s practically impossible to get 800-1000 calories within the guidelines they gave (3 meals per day, no more than 4 ounces per meal, no snacks other than protein drinks between meals), and I’m not hungry, so I don’t really want to eat any more than 500-600. The only thing I’ve added that they said not to but I’ve seen others eat is low-carb tortillas. A lot of people here love the 1 net carb tortillas from Mr. Tortilla, so I bought some even though my plan says no tortillas for the first year (I’m pretty sure they mean regular tortillas, and they might be ok with the 1 net carb tortillas, but I haven’t asked). -
Post surgery liquid diet help??
ichabodny replied to DJ80s's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Second this and how! Sugar-free popsicles were life-savers for me. Just do what you can and try to stay hydrated. I used genepro as well- I was really sick as a dog for the first couple weeks for complications but especially the first 10 days. Try to drink as much as you can and try broth. Some people have it easier with warmer and some with cold. I know it can be stressful at this stage so just do the best you can. Move around and keep track of when you are drinking- force about an ounce at a time of anything you can handle. -
Besides water, what do you like to drink?
ichabodny replied to Horseshowmom's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
See if your Dr ok's genepro. It's been a lifesaver for me-30 g protein per scoop and it mixes perfectly with water. I add a bit of zerocal flavor. It's been the best form of protein I've found. -
Besides water, what do you like to drink?
ichabodny replied to Horseshowmom's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Man, you guys are so lucky for not having been soda drinkers! That was my largest addiction (coke zero and diet ginger ale). I've pretty much evened out now on many things for taste coming back and bits of head hunger but I think the killer right now for me is when I see a commercial or show with a nice big glass of cold soda-forget the food! lol. That's my craving these days. I really do live on genepro mixed with my water and a few drops of sugar free water flavor. I take protein but I found after my labs that my body wasn't taking all the protein I was eating and the surgeon said to try to add more of the genepro for now because our bodies will never take in what everything we take down now. The genepro gives me some filler with my water and it's the best I've found for all the protein needed. Never could take coffee with the gerd I still have but I wish I could for the shift I work! -
I use Genepro. Yes, I know about the lawsuit. It was what my nnut recommended, and it seems to work great for me, so I am going with it That seems like a lot, but everyone is different. At this stage, my nut is recommending 1/4c food per meal. Yay! Hopefully the gas and heartburn has eased some for you Welcome!! I feel pretty great myself, now, considering my really rough start! Congrats on the loss!
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Hi - I am 6 days post op. I am in phase 2 of eating where i am ok to eat soups, jello, yogurt, etc.. but I'm supposed to be getting 64g of protein per day. My problem is that i can't tolerate any sugar substitutes. I am really struggling with things i can eat (drink) that are high in protein but don't have any fake sugar substitutes. I have tried the GenePro tasteless protein powder as well and couldn't keep that down either. Does anyone have any other suggestions of foods/drinks to try that do not have sugar substitutes but are high in protein? There is only so much plain yogurt, tea, broth etc... i can take in and am no where near the protein goal with those options. Any suggestions would be appreciated!
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Discouraged about protein intake
Annjones07 replied to sbmcg's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Buy genepro Sent from my SM-N950U using BariatricPal mobile app -
Unflavored Protein Powder
kellym1220 replied to Hlminichillo's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I have used Genepro and Root Vitality Collagen powder. I bought the Collagen powder for my skin and nails (before I even considered WLS) but it does have 10 grams of protein and stirs EASILY into my hot coffee. I use Genepro (30 grams of protein) with things like protein bites, protein jello shots (not as much fun as the ones I had in college) and stirred into refried beans and other cooked items that are not boiling. -
Unflavored Protein Powder
mocha2871@yahoo.com replied to Hlminichillo's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I was given the recommendation of this protein powder. So i will be trying it out in meals as i start my meal prep for pureed foods. I ordered it on Bariatric Pal GENEPRO Medical Grade Unflavored 30g Protein Powder -
I know there seems to be a lot of controversy about the brand, but it was what my nutritionist recommended... I got a sample (on my own) pre-surgery, and it was great as far as not being able to taste it, so... I use Genepro. Pre-surgery, I tried it in some yogurt, and in just plain water. Couldn't detect it in the yogurt at all, and could only marginally in the water (it might be undetectable if I added some Mio or something...) The Premier Protein is just all gross to me now, though I still slog through because I don't want to waste the ones I have.
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It can happen early on, and yes, it does seem as if we are eating and drinking all the time. Running out of gas and/or having to take a nap midday is not unusual for a while. Hydration, or lack thereof, can do it (how is your urine - clear and pale is good and a sign of adequate hydration, more deeply colored is not?) Does your program have you taking iron and/or B12 - those are the typical micronutrient causes early on (B12 not so much with the sleeve, but some people run short anyway.) Protein might be part of the problem particularly if you are depending upon genepro for it - that's a questionable product that doesn't provide as much protein as they imply (what exactly does "equates to 30g" mean?). Try changing product or doubling up on it. Our diets early on are heavily biased toward protein (and water!) with everything else being secondary, which means that we often aren't getting the carbohydrates needed to maintain our energy balance (and some go overboard on that under the belief that it will improve their weight loss.) Some programs specifically have their patients doing a bit of mild "carb loading" to help avoid this problem. Try having some oatmeal or cream of wheat for breakfast, or unsweetened apple sauce as a snack and see if that improves things.
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There are some days when my tank runs completely out of gas. Most days actually. I am in the purée stage. I am thinking maybe I need to add the genepro protein to all of my foods. I am have the MOST difficultly getting lots of water in. It’s like by the time I drink, it’s time to eat, and my stomach doesn’t have enough space for the water 20 minute later. I used to try to drink most my fluids at night but sometimes I fall asleep. I am taking the multivitamin daily. I try to go on 20 minute walks 3 days a week because I certainly don’t want to lose my stamina for exercise later. I am 156lbs. And I have stalled there for 2 weeks. I am 4 weeks post op. Anyone else feeling lethargic??
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Cinnamon roll... Interesting. I got the Equate high protein (it's very similar to Premier) in caramel the other day, and I was very surprised at how good it was. Like, I'd love to put it into coffee (I don't drink coffee anymore because I cannot drink it without SO much sugar and creamer... It was really an unhealthy amount). Dunno how I'll react to them AFTER the surgery, though. I'll have to look into that clear protein. Though I may just use Genepro in some water with Mio in it...
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The BariatricPal Store carries a huge selection of Bariatric friendly Protein drinks at https://store.bariatricpal.com/collections/protein-powders. Here are some popular options: BariatricPal Protein ONE: MultiVitamin, Calcium, Iron, Fiber & Meal Replacement Single Serving Packet - 9 Flavor Variety Pack from https://store.bariatricpal.com/collections/protein-powders/products/bariatricpal-protein-one-multivitamin-calcium-iron-fiber-meal-replacement-single-serving-packet-9-flavor-variety-pack Syntrax Nectar Protein Powder Sampler Variety Bag - All 17 Flavors! from https://store.bariatricpal.com/collections/protein-powders/products/syntrax-nectar-protein-powder-sampler-variety-bag-all-17-flavors GENEPRO Medical Grade Unflavored 30g Protein Powder - 2nd Generation! from https://store.bariatricpal.com/collections/protein-powders/products/genepro-medical-grade-unflavored-30g-protein-powder-2nd-generation Bariatric Advantage HPMR High Protein Meal Replacement - Available in 8 Flavors! from https://store.bariatricpal.com/collections/protein-powders/products/bariatric-advantage-high-protein-meal-replacement Single-Serving Protein Powder Packets - Super Jumbo “60 Flavor” Sampler Pack from https://store.bariatricpal.com/collections/protein-powders/products/single-serving-protein-powder-packets-super-jumbo-60-flavor-sampler-pack
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My nutritionist said that if you "chew, chew, chew, chew, chew" you are pureeing the food in your mouth. I have a REALLY hard time chewing my food thoroughly, i have always wolfed down my food. I haven't had an issue, thank goodness! But I agree with the above poster, try beans, eggs, yogurt, soup, pudding. If you do like pudding, add some Genepro or any powdered protein, or make it with a protein shake to up it's protein. Good luck!
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Struggling....temptation too great....feeling weak....
kellym1220 replied to Blyss's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Are you post op? If so, follow your surgeons recommendations, but things that worked for me post op during the liquids stage were: 1) Swanson Bone Broth - 9 grams of protein and it comes in a cup you can heat in the microwave 2) Sugar Free Jello, made from scratch with some Genepro protein stirred in. I put it in 2 oz cups. 3) Later, went to Panera and strained my favorite soup (Corn Chowder) But as others said, try different shakes and like everyone else recommends, try Fairlife. YUM GOOD LUCK!!! -
How Soon Is Too Soon for Reset?
KarmaNina replied to nolo56788's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I too had a weight loss stall, it lasted about 10 days. The nutritionist has me eating 5 “meals” a day. 1/4 to 1/3 cup. Must contain at least 15 grams protein minimum per meal. If I am not eating meat, I add Genepro protein powder to my meal. I could not survive only eating 3 times a day. This plan is working fine for me. I am just at the 3 month mark. -
You could get bottled water plain and add an unflavored protein like genepro to it
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Post-Op Protein HELP!!
mrshenry replied to teezora's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I am right there with you. The struggle is so real and everyone seems to think you just have to "find a way" but the fact is, you are trying but your body and stomach just rejects it. I had to pray and get divine power because I was in tears. I'm not there yet, but I am seeing a little progress in tolerance for the Genepro protein powder if I put it in liquid first, shake well and then put it in soups I enjoy ( the broth). I have a ninja blender so it blends any grit taste out 90%. I'm learning to give myself a good balance of grace and perseverance through drinking. Nothing is Goldilocks "just right" perfect yet, but I've accepted that that's okay. It's easy for some people to get there protein grams in and others struggle, but know that you doing great. You made a healthy and bold decision for a better life, applaud yourself for that first! I made this post a few days ago and maybe it will help you. Just look for the title in this thread and feel free to private message me if you need to. You are NOT ALONE!!! Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using BariatricPal mobile app -
Just the thought of it makes me barf
mrshenry replied to mrshenry's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Thank you so much for this helpful and great advice! I will pray hard about the word compliance! That keeps jumping out to me! Going to get Genepro today! Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using BariatricPal mobile app -
Just the thought of it makes me barf
orange_lily replied to mrshenry's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Maybe look into Genepro? -
Food Before and After Photos
WishMeSmaller replied to GreenTealael's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Excuse the crummy photos. First up is a veggie and cheese frittata I made for the week. Veggies are asparagus, baby portobellos, and leaks. Used about 4 oz pre-shredded Swiss-Gruyere cheese blend from Trader Joe’s. Each square is about 150kcals. Yummy. Second up is my green protein smoothie. Also about 150 kcals made with A scoop of Genepro in a cup of water, half a frozen banana (I weigh before freezing for tracking), about a cup of raw spinach, 0.5 tablespoons of chia seeds, some stevia, and a few ice cubes. I have one most days. Not exciting tasting, but I am somewhat addicted to them 🤷♀️ -
Expensive as all **** but... isopure (dutch cocoa was my early fav), syntrax nectar, genepro seem to be popular choices. Also BariatricPal store sells a large variety of protein shake and protein supplement alternatives if shakes aren't your cup of tea https://store.bariatricpal.com/pages/search-results-page?q=protein*
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I'm needing Flavored protein powder chocolate and vanilla to make protein balls. I use Genepro unflavored for extra protein right now.
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Half a banana, sliced and frozen (I weigh each banana half before I freeze it and write the weight on the wax paper I wrap it in) 0.5-1 cup water mixed with a scoop of GenePro 1 cup fresh, raw, spinach .5 tablespoon of chia seeds sweetener to taste ice cubes to taste It is kind of boring on flavor, but I also don’t want a ton of carbs. It doesn’t taste bad, just sort of blah. It ends up being about 150 kcals and 30+ grams protein. I need to follow this thread for more ideas.
