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Don Get It Confused, Im A Drinker! Not An Alcoholic!
Catracks replied to JimmyGotSLEEVED's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I can't judge because I'm a smoker. We did have a gastric bypass patient in my support group that lost all her weight and then gained it all back and more from drinking. OJ and cranberry juice are almost pure sugar and highly caloric and vodka had 85 calories per shot. I only have room for 700-800 calories per day and I have to get all my nutrient and 70 grams of Protein. After a couple drinks I would go way over what I should have for carbs and be missing my protein. As many have said, alcohol makes some throw caution to the wind and make bad food choices. Careful! -
I can only share my experiences with fills. I've had two so far, my second one just this morning. The surgeon and I talk for a few minutes; what have you been eating, have you been exercising, and he reviews my weight. He gives me time to ask questions, then we discuss the amount to put in my band. The first fill he did 3 cc's. Today, since I had lost 14 lbs last month (he expects 3-4 a month), he said he hesitates to put in another 3 cc's because it may be too aggressive. He opted to put in 1.5 cc, bringing me up to 4.5 cc's total. As for the actual fill, it's a breeze. I lay on the exam table and lift up my shirt to my port area. He feels for the port with his (gloved) hands - usually has me do an abdominal crunch so it's easier to feel, then wipes down the area with rubbing alcohol. He then takes the syringe that has the Fluid in it, pokes it into the port, injects a small amount, draws back to make sure he's totally in the port, then pushes the rest of the fluid in. It doesn't hurt at all, and takes about 1 minute from start to finish. A little circle bandaid over the injection site and I'm good to go. He has me drink a small cup of Water before I leave to make sure it passes then I schedule to see him again in a month. Quick and painless! From what I've read and heard about a slippage - - with a true slippage you should have symptoms. Most people cannot even get fluids down. As for eating too fast, that's a HARD habit to break. One that I still struggle with. Try not to let yourself get too hungry. When I get too hungry, I get ravenous, and eat way too fast.
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Wondering WHY I did it!
ASDMom78 replied to IAmGrace's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Sounds like you're in the "buyer's remorse" stage of surgery. I'm sorry you are going through this but it's a phase that I went through as well and pretty common from what I hear. Often times we are forced to deal with our issues when we can no longer use food as a crutch to make us feel better so depression is very common. Your body is also trying to deal with a rapid decrease in calories and potentially hormone changes. It doesn't help that we are currently facing a pandemic while you're trying to heal and find a new normal. One thing I was told many years ago when I started my journey is people who have food addictions must be very careful in making sure they do not turn to a different addiction (alcohol, drugs, shopping, sex, etc.) in an effort to please the same part of the brain food used to. Take one day at a time. I promise you are stronger than you think and you will get through this. (((HUGS))) -
No, I don't drink alcohol, but I didn't before getting the sleeve either.
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I was told to avoid alcohol for a year. Also, if you haven't already been warned everyone should've been. We are at higher risk of becoming alcoholics after surgery than before and I have seen it where I work. It's one reason I didn't immediately choose to have the surgery. I've seen several persons with this problem at my place of employment. So, be careful and follow your medical team's advice.
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Yes I started having cocktails again about 1 month post surgery. No issues. Was told that with the weight loss I would feel the effects of alcohol faster. I haven't found that to be the case. Since my stomach can't handle as much liquid I now order doubles.
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Sassy, you're right about that. Pain meds make me want to smoke more. Alcohol makes me smoke more. Heck! Everything makes me want to smoke more! But you're right.. it's the pain meds which are making me smoke like a train at the moment. Good identify there, lady!
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Count me in this group. NO way was I going to skip out on a yummy drink now and then. I'm a total dufus though- I thought I'd change from wine coolers to Mikes Hard Lemonade to avoid the carbonation monster. It wasn't until I read the LABEL that I realized that those are carbonated too. Sheesh, I think Cheri and I are twins......... I just look at a glass bottle (any form of alcohol included) and I'm preggers!
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A couple of weeks after I had my surgery I was reading over my discharge papers again and it said no alcohol for at least 24 hours. And my doctor never said anything about alcohol affecting anything that I can remember but I see him next week for a fill and will ask him about it.
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I still enjoy drinking. I'm not a big drinker, but maybe a few times a month we'll go out for drinks. I have noticed it takes alot less to get me buzzing lol, but that's probably because I'm drinking on a much emptier stomach. I generally have to choose between food or drink when we go out, as I don't have room for both. I do generally stick to non carbonated alcoholic beverages though, as the bubbles fill me up faster. My drink of choice was previously vodka, lime cordial and soda Water. So now I just have vodka, fresh lime juice (no sugar heh) and still water.... and for some reason, this helps keep a hangover away too :eek:
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Cross addiction or addiction transfer??
summerset replied to Yettid's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Hummmmm, it's hard to tell... My experience is that I stopped smoking after being banded and haven't started again since. As far as compulsive behavior goes: I spend more money on stuff but nothing I couldn't afford so I don't see this as a big deal. Alcohol I drink once in a while. I feel that I'm more anxious about things. More nervous and restless in general. I guess that is my ADHD kicking in harder. -
Weight Loss Surgery & Depression/Suicide....working on article, can you help a fellow patient?
Beth Pets replied to SamanthaNoyes's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
When I quit smoking I went through almost a year of depression and anxiety. Finally, my body became adjusted to the intense change I had put it through by breaking an addiction. I fully expect to face the same problems with weight loss. If it were easy to break an addiction, everyone would just toss their cigarettes, drugs, alcohol and chocolate cake and take up knitting! Even if you can mentally adjust it takes many months, even years, for your body chemistry to calm down. I would not be surprised to hear that there is an increase in chemical imbalance after weight surgery but I have not found any legitimate studies that indicate an increase in suicide. Can you please provide a link to these studies that you mention? Otherwise, it seems a bit irresponsible to drop a subject line like that on a message board like this. -
Another good sugar substitute is Xylitol. Xylitol is a naturally occuring sweetener that is extracted from Birch Bark. It is a sugar alcohol, but does not have the side affects that most sugar alcohol has (cramping, diarrhea, gas, bloating). It is also known to kill bad bacteria on your teeth, and some dentists actually recommend toothpaste and mouthwash containing Xylitol. It has very little glycemic impact to your body. It can be expensive, and there aren't really any products on the market that use it exclusively, but if you want it to sweeten coffee or tea, or to bake with (it browns like sugar does, so is suitable for baking, Aspartame looses all of it's sweetnedd when heated, and sucralose has no bulking or browning capability... like sugar) it is a good choice. It is almost impossible to find in stores, but you can likely find it online. When baking a low-sugar treat, I use a combination of Xylitol, Splenda or Stevia (depending on the taste I am going for... stevia actually has a little of a licorice aftertaste). Just another alternative. I'm gone folks, leaving for vacation... see you all next week!:heh:
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"If they are so concerned about it -- why don't they address this problem during K-12? You know, while "we the taxpayers" are footing the bill for the education." Well, they do. Gym is mandatory K-12 and health classes are required in the core rec. Most colleges don't simply target those who are obese. At my college, it was mandatory for everyone. And I have never heard a professor say, even in casual conversation, that drinking to excess and posting pictures about it is a rite of passage. We have whole programs here to help the students stay away from alcohol and how to manage it and stress properly. They'd get reported in a heartbeat. Taking an extra gym class in college did not kill me. It was easy credit and got me moving, which is always good because I think exercise is a pain in the ass. Having it be mandatory helped me lose weight. I don't know, but out of all the problems going on, this isn't one of my concerns. Maybe when they start asking for BMIs during the application process to screen out the fat kids... then I'll be on board, haha!
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Advice needed. Did you do the emotional work after weight loss surgery?
laurenella82 replied to My Bariatric Life's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I have not yet had surgery either but the journey thus far has taught me a lot about myself. Despite my issues with the psych doc I chose to do the evaluation, he said a lot that opened my eyes to my habits and tendencies. Knowing more about me has made my prayers different. Having friends and family who are supportive prayer warriors who don't care what I think and will tell me what I need to hear and not what I want to hear is a huge plus for me on this journey. I have also been introduced to food Addicts in Recovery Anonymous and though I've only been to one meeting so far, it was an extremely eye opening experience. I try to live by the serinity prayer and the Lord's prayer. It's funny, I started putting g those prayers together 20 some years ago as a child when u went to support a family member in alcoholics anonymous. I didn't fully understand their power until recently and they are a great comfort for me. -
I'm still in the hospital. And I'm misarable
caitlinrose88 replied to sprinkles13's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I have!! I am 9 days post op. I was having TERRIBLE pain after surgery, they had me on dilaudid for pain which made me so sick all I did was dry heave for hours and I even threw up blood which scared me to death , my dr told me it was ok bc it was a small amount but gahh those 2 days post op were terrible. Has ur nurse told you to keep alcohol swabs near? If you wave them in front of your nose the smell will help with your nasea. And hopefully your getting some zofran or phernergan for it as well. I am so sorry that feeling is terrible but I promise every day gets better. I am still struggling with little hurdles but I know we can do this!!!! Keep reading these forums and focus on the positive!! several weeks from now when you've lost a number of pounds and your feeling better you will say aha! It was worth it, I remember why I am doing this... Hope you feel better soon. -
Hi.. new and nervous
Cherie Berry replied to Brumbie06's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
Hello every one , I am new to this site and still trying to figure out everything.. I am scheduled to be banded Dec. 14th if I dont chiken out.. I haven't seen anything so far on the use of alcoholic beverages.. Will I ever be able to go out and have a drink with friends? Iam not talking about getting drunk just a drink. Has anyone ever mentioned this? Thanks -
am I slipping??
BellaPerdente replied to KayleighsMommy's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
You are definitely right about it not being the easy road. The REASON I am so heavy is because food is an addiction...a friend...the devil!! I am sure most people who are heavy will agree that the reason they want to have the lapband is because they can't control the amount of food they eat. We are all hoping to beat this addiction, which is worse than being a drug addict or an alcoholic because we do need food to survive. It is not easy to say goodbye to our old lives. The head hunger (mind games) are hard to handle some times but I agree that we have to FIGHT the demons to make this work. We are going to slip up sometimes...that is normal because we are not perfect. I fight with myself everyday. -
Eating is a survival behavior. We must eat or we will die. We are therefore hard-wired to find pleasure in food. It's the same reason we find pleasure in sex and find babies and children irresistibly cute - survival of the the species. The things that keep us alive and perpetuate the species are designed to be pleasurable so we will do them. Please don't try to overcome the love of food and pleasure you find in food. Abstinence works for drugs and alcohol because we don't need those things to survive. You will not be able to stop loving food - nor should you!!! If you don't find a way to enjoy your new life, you will either fail miserably, or succeed more miserably. Continue to enjoy cooking and healthy food. That's what we are supposed to do. All that junk food and unhealthy food we fed those cravings never satisfied because our bodies were really screaming for nutrition. When you find ways to give your body the nutrients it needs - that you can also enjoy - you will finally satisfy those cravings for good!!! I'm a foodie for life!!! Shelly
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Hi Heather, Being banded does not mean you can never drink again. Yesterday I had three glasses of champagne at an Easter function. But you WILL have to learn how your body reacts to alcohol, which may be different than you were used to. Even if you haven't lost significant weight yet, drinking can affect you a lot faster just because you're taking in way fewer calories. So take it very slowly. And, of course, keep in mind that alcohol is just empty calories that pile up very quickly, so drinking at all is pretty counterproductive to weight loss.
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My doc says no alcohol for a year I have a friend who does vodka on the rocks or with crystal light , after 3 months me, my view is why waste the calories ? no alcohol till goal . Its a small price to pay
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Weight Regain After Gastric Sleeve
Dimples58 replied to DLovelySleeve's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Good morning, i was just curious, did drinking alcohol effect you any different than before the WLS? I was told that we wouldn't be able to tolerate drinking the least amount and that one small dip would put us over the edge quickly. What was your experience and do you drink? -
Weight Regain After Gastric Sleeve
DLovelySleeve replied to DLovelySleeve's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Hey Dimples58, Soooooooo.....drinking after wls is truly different for every person. I was also advised by my medical crew that I would not be able to tolerate much alcohol, BUT this was not true for me. I can drink a sailor under the table. Lol! This is not good though because it's a lot of calories and causes weight gain. My first attempt was a shot of whiskey about 6 months post op and I felt nothing. The only time I feel it quickly is if I don't eat first. -
Freaking Out About Lovenox -- Anyone Else Have To Do This? Self-Injections?
JimmyGotSLEEVED replied to Patrick Curl's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
The shot does NOT have to be in the stomach. It can be anywhere on the body as long as that portion of the body is meaty. Arm, leg or butt. I personally take it in the arm. Be careful tho not to rub it or it will turn into a lump. After you inject just wipe the area with the alcohol pad lightly. Don't rub, squeeze or press down on it. I REPEAT "Don't rub, squeeze or press down on it." those lumps will remain there for about few days to a week and they are bothersome. Gluck -
Dehydration long term & dizziness anyone?
Ms skinniness replied to sirensiren's topic in WLS Veteran's Forum
I get dizzy often too. My blood pressure is low and my PCP attributes my dizziness with my blood pressure. Asked me how much water I was getting and when I told him, he flinched, like I was drinking too much. He told me to increase my sodium intake. I did a little, but decided I really didn't want to do that because I'm already a big salt user. Yesterday I had appointment with PCP and she wasn't even concerned with my blood pressure. It wa a little lower than previous appointments with my other PCP. She told me I had the blood pressure of a 15 year old....... Hang in there and if you have been drinking alcohol, remember to increase your water intake to cleanse your body of the toxins....... Cheers to everyone!
