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Still considering- have some questions
mousecat88 replied to jenniferinfl's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
In a few months, I can have virtually any fruit except ones with membranes (citrus). Proteins should always come first, but if you still have room for fruits, you can have them. I can also have virtually all veggies except broccoli stalks, potatoes, celery, and asparagus stalks. Again, if there's room. People are always eating salads with chicken/salmon, etc, making smoothies. There's a billion recipes that incorporate all sorts of veggies in with things. Lots of really good bariatric cookbooks. I don't drink coffee, but was told at 1 month, 1 cup a day is fine. I'm sure people farther out have more... it's really just a concern at first due to dehydration from caffeine. I am 6 weeks from surgery and I can't comment on "is my life better" because I'm not "there" yet. Life doesn't suck. I don't want nearly anything I did pre-op. I feel like I could live on proteins alone forever. I stopped cravings carbs. I don't want fruits like I used to enjoy. I didn't have any typical comorbidities either when I had surgery except pseudotumor. I lost a lot of weight on my own, too, but gained it all back. With this, unless you really mess up, you won't gain it back like rebound with dieting. I ate total crap (and healthy stuff) before surgery and my labs are normal, too. Not even fatty liver. They do say never drink alcohol because you don't absorb it the same way and get very drunk very fast, but some people on here can manage a drink every so often. The risk of alcoholism is much higher. -
Please advise me on a vitamin that won't make me ill
MarinaGirl replied to Bobcats's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Many chewable vitamins contain sugar alcohols, which are artificial sweeteners that end in "itol" (e.g. xylitol, sorbitol, mannitol). After WLS, these types of vitamins make me nauseous and/or vomit. I can't tolerate sugar alcohols in other products either. -
Hello my name is Angie, I am 39 years young from Pennsylvania. I have my first of 4 monthly appointments on July 18, 2011. I currently weigh 288 and 5' and have a BMI of 56. I have type II insulin dependent diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, non alcoholic fatty liver disease, asthma, edema of feet legs and ankles, and am in constant pain upon movement. starting Feb. 16, 2011 until June 3,2011 I have been hospitalized 13 times for my asthma and diabetes and other related issues including paralysis with unknown cause. Total days in hospital 63. I am currently on 12 different meds, and hate taking them. I am excited as well as nervous at same time. I have been following 1800 calorie diabetic diet for 4 years and no weight lost but none gained. I have recently had to file for Retirement Disability from my job. My asthma is to the point that one wrong fragrance I am in what the have labeled status asthmaticus. I only leave my house for Dr. appointments and quick grocery trips....... usually my kids run into the store not me. Thus my journey has begun...................
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Alkohol....
StefanieSparklePants replied to lucja t's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Put alcohol out of your mind until you're fully healed. Lotsa dangerous ground here. Early out, alcohol can cause severe stomach inflammation, gastritis and ulcers. It will hinder your weight loss as alcohol is calorie heavy and you get drunk SUPER fast. I had champagne at nine months out and had 3 sips and was drunk. Alcohol poisoning is very real for us as it's basically hitting your intestines right away. Also, you might want to read up on transfer addiction if you're at risk for that. Very bluntly put, this surgery is hard enough when you follow the rules 100%. You dont want to throw monkey wrenches in this process. Most surgeons will tell you to wait 1 year before drinking, some will say 6 months and others will tell you to avoid it completely. Use caution. -
Hi everyone, firstly I am so glad there is this forum and there is so much experience here. I am in my 40's a typical story of Diet Coke addiction binge eating and fad diets. I have had a private consultation and my bmi is 34 with a weight loss needed of 5 stone. I can have the sleeve and I really think it will suit me in that my bad food choices will be removed or restricted My biggest fear is hair loss. I have fine thinning hair anyway and it will be really noticeable so how likely is this and is there anything to prevent this or any supplements? Secondly and this is frivolous but going out drinking is a big part of my life and a life without alcohol will be a struggle. I accept the point about calories and accept that it will not aid weight loss but other than this and low tolerance, is there any reason why reduced alcohol cannot be consumed on the odd night out. Any one that can give me some advice would really help. I really want to change but I need to do it with my eyes wide open Thanks all
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This is different for everybody. The best thing I can recommend is to follow your surgeons rules on when to start to eat and drink things (including alcohol). In my case it is six months out but that is my NUT. Keep in mind because of the surgery we get intoxicated A LOT quicker then before. One drink could be too much.
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Vitamins Pre and Post Op
Tiffykins replied to sickofrollercoaster's topic in Protein, Vitamins, and Supplements
I was cleared for alcohol at around 3.5 months. I drink wine on a fairly regular basis. The first time you drink, I would recommend drinking at home, and go slow. For me, I can drink a glass of wine, feel a little bit of a buzz, and then it kind of fades. I've had 2 "girl night out" and I drank a bunch of rum/cokes, and various shots. I maintained a good buzz, and then got really drunk. I did drink a lot, I mean I can't even tell you how many I drank. The one rule during the losing phase that my surgeon stressed was that alcohol is wasted, empty calories so don't go overboard. I've sipped on a margarita, but it didn't taste good, and it didn't really settle all that great. I also drank some Tuaca and sprite one night, and that was pretty awesome. Now, with that all said, I'm much further out obviously, and I drink soda occasionally as my surgeon does not believe that soda causes any type of stretching like is found in band and RNY pouches. Sorry for the ramble. Some surgeons tell patients no alcohol until they hit goal others are more lax. -
Alcohol - effects and wait time
Kindle replied to twinhappy's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Had wine at 4 months. Tried a Bloody Mary at 5 months but it burned...switched to a mint julip (I was at a Kentucky Derby party). Couple Vodka cocktails at a gold tournament 6 months out. Didn't get too carried away with drinking until I went on vacation 10 months out. (When I was already well below goal weight). Unfortunately alcohol doesn't affect me any differently....I can still out drink a football team. But if I drink more than 2 days in a row I get bad gastritis. -
How long did you wait before you had any alcohol? Did the effects set in quicker? I am only two months out and I know I won't try any time soon. I'm just hoping I don't have to wait a year. Thanks!
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I am very happy with my bypass. My GERD is gone, which has relieved my asthma as well. I started exercising right away, gradually adding elements of cardio, weights, stretching. I have more muscle mass now than before surgery. I have also entered a triathon in Oct and a bicycle event in November. I have so much energy now and feel 20 years younger! My only issue with malabsorption is with fat. If I eat too much it will come out in my stools. All of my 6 month vitamin levels were great, but I do take my vitamins faithfully, which I think is a small price to pay in exchange for the life I have now. My only other issue is getting enough calories in now, to keep up with my training schedule. My pouch limits intake, so I am having to eat more frequently and starting to add more healthy carbs back into the menu. All in all, I couldn't ask for a better outcome. I respect anyone's decision about which surgery to have, but it seems quite a few folks with the sleeve end up getting revised to bypass. I was also fixed on the sleeve until I understood the advantages of bypass with helping GERD and since that was an issue for me, it became a no brainer. I also like the fact that dumping can occur with sugar intake, when bypass is chosen. That is a great detriment for me to avoid sugar. Sugar is poison. I want no part of it, and my tummy agrees! No brainer there. I am also commited to taking care of my pouch and all the connections as well as possible. I work in the GI department of our hospital and I have seen firsthand the damage that can be done to WLS sites - ulcers and erosions beyond horror. So no alcohol, coffee, or NSAIDs for me. Those are my personal choices - again, a small price to pay for the life I have now. Best wishes in your journey!
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1.rapid loss=runs 2. Only100 pound weightloss ?
Scylla replied to TamaraS's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Tamara, have you followed up with your surgeon's office or NUT recently? Maybe a visit with them will help get you back on the right track. I'm newly sleeved, so the information is fresh in my mind, but my surgeon's rules are 3 meals a day and nothing in between except for Protein shakes if you are not getting in your protein. Also, no alcohol. I know a lot of people do imbibe after they are sleeved, but I know in the past drinking has definitely affected my diet inhibitions! It caused me to throw caution out the window and just eat whatever I felt like. I don't want to go back there, so I don't plan to go back to drinking at all. Plus, alcoholic beverages are just empty calories. I'd rather eat my calories! -
1.rapid loss=runs 2. Only100 pound weightloss ?
TamaraS posted a topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I haven't been on here in way too long. I guess a lot of it has to do with shame and guilt with not changing my eating habits over the last year & 8months and drinking WAY too much alcohol after my surgery. My food demons are still very present unfortunately. Surgery weight was 335 & current weight is 220. surgery date was september 27th 2012. I logged in here to ask two questions: 1. In the last 4 days I have lost 9 pounds. the last two days I have had terrible "runs". I cant remember if rapid weight loss caused this? Anyone know? 2. My surgeon strongly discouraged me against the sleeve because all the patient's he had performed the sleeve on, didn't reach their goals. He said I will lose around One Hundred pounds and there it usually ends. He firmly recommended I get the RNY/Gastric Bypass. I started out thinking I wouldn't be one of his statistics but that wasn't the case... On an interesting side note my surgeon continued to do the vertical sleeve for a little over 6 months after I had surgery but then discontinued it and now only performs duodenal switch and RNY. Recently I started on phentermine to get back on track and start over with this never ending food addiction. In addition I made an appointment with a therapist and scheduled an appointment with a hypnotherapist also. Cant hurt right? Back to my point though. Have the majority of you only lost 80 to 120 pounds and still have OVER 30 pounds till you reach the ideal weight on the weight chart?- 7 replies
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I was banded on 12/31, it was great no issues at all. I didn't really get hungry until this past week, now I'm hungry 2 hours after I eat and craving things I shouldn't have. I am eating semi-soft foods, nothing crunchy or fibrous yet. I don't drink while eating, and wait 30 minutes after I eat. I quit soda all together, drinking no cal water instead and have even given up alcohol. I was doing so well to start off, now I'm getting depressed and losing motivation. I am scheduled for my first fill on 1/29 and just pray that helps.
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I'm 2 years out and rarely drink. I had one two nights ago and I felt like crap afterward and woke with a hangover. For me, I don't think it's worth it, lol. When I/if do have and adult beverage, I plan for it because I still track. And just one hits me no matter how slowly I sip. My team advised waiting a year before consuming alcohol, if at all. Since it took me 11 months to reach goal as it was, there wasn't any reason to drink empty calories anyway. Plus, like many WLS patients, I was worried about transfer addiction. (It wasn't an issue, but one never knows.)
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The questionnaire was about your current/past mental health, eating habits, support systems, relationships and drug/alcohol abuse (if applicable). Then she/he goes over based on your answers.
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I do not have full dentures but I have a piece that connects to a prosthesis that used to be my cheek, and I understand your worries - I am getting it replaced with a piece that locks in with posts, and I have been told they can do this with dentures too - AND it reduces your dependency on the adhesives (which I have to use) - you dont want to swallow that on your tummy!!! Consider inquiring about this. An essentials kit you want to keep, in my opinion: You have to be so extremely proactive about oral hygeine now. that protien will stick to surfaces and you can develop bacterial infections, cycts, nodes and fungal infections...I have experienced only one and it was enough. OUCH. Alcohol based mouthwash OR yes, VODKA - I rinse my nouth out with it once a day... soft washcloth and toothpaste - I seriously think toothpaste on a rag after brushing is very good for your upper and lower palette - I was introduced to this in rehab therapy after the incident that caused me to need said replacement. If you are worried about retrieving your dentures from the toilet - which I would be much more than flushing them...or getting your face unnecessarily close to a public stall - get a few paperbags and some uncented trash bag liners for small trash cans and prep soem "flight bags" the paperbag keeps it discreet if you need it. Good luck if you think I might can help you further message me, I have had some experience with this.
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I don't drink alcohol, but we make virgin daquaries and things like that instead. We are having a party and are going to watch all the amazing fireworks that they light off on my terrace. our house is on top of a huge hill, so we can see the entire village, and also the next big city perfectly. It's going to be so awsome!
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If you buy premixed Protein shakes in the store make sure they have good protein content and low sugar. Sugar alcohols should be O.K. It is much better than sugar. There are two phases after surgery. These are the Weight Loss phase and the Maintenance phase. At 4 years post-op, you are in the maintenance phase. The following article describes my experience with the maintenance phase. http://www.breadandbutterscience.com/Surgery2.pdf
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Have been in active afib for over a year.. Nothing worked to slow heart rate or give me regular Sinus rhythm. Having pace maker this Wednesday....Hope to get back on track. Feeling sorry for myself I went back to old habits. I am 4 years out and moved to an area that has limited bariatric surgery support groups. So how many calories, how many of those are carbs. Are Protein shakes etc. That are in the 'store' safe? Are they considered low carb...And the night. Sugar alcohols don't bother my digestive system....But they seem to make me not lose weight..Even if I make the bars a meal Sent from my XT1585 using the BariatricPal App
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Alcohol & Weight lose
Webchickadee replied to ShyV.'s topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
It's hard to scientifically link these two events together. You mention that you were in a "stand still" with your weight loss. Perhaps you were in a short stall and it coincidentally moved the day after your alcohol consumption. As well, as Groovinchikin mentioned, alcohol will cause dehydration, but 8 oz of a single alcoholic drink would probably not cause large-scale dehydration. Now if it was 8 oz of alcohol, that would be a very different story (and a source of concern, especially within 3 months of your surgery (you should probably be avoiding alcohol completely for min. 6 months post-op!) There are other factors that could influence your weight change as well that you haven't mentioned. How is your digestive tract schedule? I know that due to the smaller amount of food that I eat, even now after 10 months post-op I only have a bowel movement every 3-4 days (without using supplements to speed up that schedule...). So if you have not had a movement for several days, then have one perhaps on the day of your alcohol ingestion, it may APPEAR that the alcohol consumption is the cause of your weight drop, where the change is actually due to your elimination of 1-3 lbs of waste from your colon! Also, you mention that you are not eating much. That is not good! While we are trying to lose weight, what we really want is to lose excess body fat, not just weight! By not eating, you are not giving your body the proper nutrition it requires to maintain your muscle mass. The body will break down muscle BEFORE it breaks down fat (as biochemically it is an easier physiological source of energy). This is known at catabolism. If you are not ingesting the correct amount of Protein to maintain or rebuild muscle, you will lose weight but suffer tremendous lean muscle loss, strength, agility and fitness. Our HEART is our most important muscle.......and it is NOT exempt from the catabolic process. Eat protein! Then vegetables (you need the Vitamins and minerals!) and lastly, good carbs if you have any room left. I highly recommend you review your diet, examine why you are consuming alcohol so close to your surgery date (and eliminate it!) and reset your focus on health for the long term. Your weight loss goal will come with time. You want to be in the best shape of your life to enjoy it! -
Yeah, I had a cold for the past week also. Nyquil did help at night, but not so much during the day. I remember the first time i took it this last week. It burned going down and then kind of lit my empty stomach up a bit. Not too bad, but the 10% alcohol gave me some good sleeps. Good luck!
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My one year surgery anniversary was this past week, so it seemed a good time for a little reflection, and also experience sharing for those who are new to the surgery or considering it. As background, I am a 5'7" tall male in my mid 50's. Have fought weight all my adult life. I had reached my maximum weight of 301# last summer, fighting type 2 diabetes and sleep apnea, and decided a change was needed. I was able to lose 15 pounds by the time i started my pre-surgery preparation last September. My surgery and recovery were uneventful. My type 2 diabetes resolved itself immediately after the surgery. I lost weight at a fairly steady pace for several months. Then I faced some lifestyle challenges involving significant travel and eating out and my rate of loss slowed somewhat. I've gotten on and off track a couple of times during the year. My goal was to lose 100 lbs. from my pre-surgery weight. I've been able to lose 75 of those pounds in the first year. I'm still losing weight slowly and have had no issues with regain in the first year. I've been able to drop four pant and shirt sizes. My health status has improved immensely, with way more energy and stamina than I had before. I continue to be amazed at the physical achievements I'm able to experience that would have been impossible before. My nutritionist tells me that with full program compliance I should still be able to lose 10 lbs per month however I'm seeing that at this stage losing a pound a week is more reasonable. I still feel restriction but have learned what slider foods are and their impact on weight loss. I'm fairly compliant with the Protein aspects of the program but still reach for Snacks and slider foods too often. I'm certain this, plus some alcohol consumption have impacted my rate of loss. The biggest thing I've learned is that the sleeve is not a magic fix for weight management. It is a tool, and like any tool you need to learn to use it properly. Managing diet and exercise will continue to be a lifelong task, and the diet changes I made last September were lifetime changes.
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One of my dearest friends is a recovering alcoholic. She's been sober for over 20 years. She has said to me many times that NO way, NO how would she trade her addiction for mine. Because as she says, "I can NOT drink, but I could NEVER drink, but in moderation. And that's what you have to learn to do with food."
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How Soon Did You Start Eating Protein Bars?
RickM replied to Iwant2Bthatgirl's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I had one sometime in the middle of the second month, though I probably could have had one earlier given all the other "normal" type foods that I had been having before that. I have evolved into having the Quest bars when I have one as they have one of the best protein per calorie ratios out there, I like several of their varieties, they have little or no sugar alcohols in them (depending on variety - many people have problems with sugar alcohols), and they have a lot of fiber which most of us can use. -
I’m over a year and a half out I drink a little whiskey here and there but after I drink it I get a lot of pain in my stomach does anyone else get this?
