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I know we are only aloud 8grams of sugar a day , but what about sugar alcohol. Any ideas?
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Heading into week 3
Head Hunger and stalling
Because I was more of a foodie than an emotional eater, I was hoping that the head hunger would be minimum. But boy did it hit me like a ton of bricks this weekend. I felt depressed and my first (and hopefully only) sense of regret. I knew that having my surgery right before the Christmas holiday would be rough, but man this is really rough. I didn't even realize how much my life with my friends and family revolved around food. Every event I attended, everyone's home I visited, every gathering centred around food, and I hated that I could not partake. And don't get me started on TV and advertisements everywhere you turn, It was like I was living in HELL. My best girlfriends and I have an annual ladies sleepover in which we exchange gifts and catch up on what's going on in each other's lives, and it centred around food and alcohol, which I can not partake. so as they had their Nacho's and various other finger foods, I was there snacking at my yoghurt, or sipping on my protein shake. I really felt like the odd man out. And the worst part is I know I only want these things because I can't have them!
I also know that around week 3 most people stall. I am 2 weeks and 5 days out and yes I hit the dreaded stall. I haven't lost any weight in 3 days and actually gained a few oz's over 2 days. which I know is temporary, but still gives a small blow to the ego. I know I am not the only person going through this, but it's nice to be able to just let it out.
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Had my one month (really, a day short of 6 weeks) post-op appointment today. Everybody seemed pretty happy with how things are going, and I'm now officially in Phase III (long-term bariatric eating phase), with the caveat that rice and pasta are still not allowed, and no alcohol until at least the three month mark. (Not a problem.) But I'm cleared to have fruits and veggies! 🥦🍎🥗🍊🍇🍓 So exciting! I want an apple so badly. (OK, like, a third of an apple, with peanut butter, because I'm not sure a full apple will fit in my stomach, and eating something without any protein feels wrong.)
I'm also cleared to exercise, though I've been advised to start slow with weights and to stop if I feel any "tearing" (😨) in my abdomen. Back to the pool with me! (I hurt my foot, so walking is out right now. I hate it. Swimming and starting with weight lifting should do a lot for my mood, though.) -
Haven't updated this thing in a while. It's just to keep me accountable and I know others can read this so feel free to chime in. I'm officially almost entering my 7th month of post op life from my gastric bypass. I feel so much better and I've lost over 100 lbs but there are days I still feel like it won't all really matter at all until I am stick skinny (which wouldn't be possible without plastics and even then I don't think so). I hate that I think that way - it makes it hard to be happy for myself and then that feeds into not meeting my goals.
I was in a weight loss rut for a while there - like the whole month of August basically was me just gaining and losing the same 4 lbs. I figured it was just a weight loss stall part of the process because I hear there's a big stall 6 months out. I also was macro and calorie counting but I was drinking more alcohol than I ever have since surgery. I think that contributed to it immensely. Just to be clear I wasn't drinking out of transfer addiction - just going to more social events and dinners because my life has gotten so incredibly busy. It's amazing because I have the confidence to go out and be social now but it makes it harder to navigate the strict calorie limits and hydration goals when you're always hanging out with people.
Anyway, I really put a lot of thought into calories the past two weeks and stopped drinking too. I finally broke my stall. I went from 240 to 236 and it seems to be sticking. I'm at this weird part in the surgery journey where the honeymoon is over. I no longer get food stuck in my esophagus on the regular but I have noticed I am starting to feel nauseous after eating (probably because I don't have the limitation of the food getting stuck) so I don't realize how much my body is actually okay with.
So now I'm at this point where I'm figuring out how much of different types of foods I can really eat without making myself nauseous. It's a work in progress but I'm determined. I'm usually good around 1/2 a cup of carbs and 1-1.5 cups of vegetables. Protein is always different. Sometimes I can eat it no problem, others it's one of the only foods that still get "stuck". I try not to go crazy counting calories because I have a history of eating disorders. I mainly try to stay under 1300 calories. My BMR is around 1900 right now. Instead of counting every single morsel, I make sure I eat more in the beginning of the day so I don't snack at night and I weigh my food if it's a fat or carb.
I'd really like to add more exercise back into the equation but I've been on my *ss for the past 2 weeks because I sprained my tailbone. It's finally better so I'm going to try doing a mile run and a 2 mile walk at least 3 times a week to start out. Weathers also clearing up for outdoor runs and I'd like to get my sweat on anyway.
But anyway, I feel like I'm at this point of my surgery journey that doesn't get talking about a lot. The pre op and right after surgery phases are talked about most but the most important part seems to be what happens after all the cool perks start dying down? Hunger comes back, or you're able to increase portions, introduce foods back, etc. I'd love to talk to others about this point just for support. I know it just comes down to tracking and movement but sometimes it does feel like you're doing it all and those numbers won't budge (they don't go up, but they don't go down). For me it's best not to obsess over the number. I can get really depressed checking my weight everyday. I'm down to checking about 3 times a month now.
Not sure what else I'm trying to say here. Just want to keep going. My first goal weight was 220 that I set for myself. I'm about 15 lbs away from it. I think once I hit 220 and maintain it for 2 months I'll set a new goal weight for 200 lbs. I think at that point I'll be ready for plastics. I'd love to have my arms tightened, my stomach skin removed and my boobs lifted. Everything else I can take or leave haha
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10 weeks post op. Had my first dumping episode last week, holy hell I thought I was having a heart attack! It lasted a couple of hours, and was only really severe for half an hour. Enough to scare the life out of me though!
Weight loss has slowed considerably but I'm ok with that. I've been eating more mindfully and with variety, remembering my vitamins mostly, and drinking lots of fluid. The day after the dumping session I felt really washed out and lacked energy. An early night sorted that.
I've started having a few glasses of wine but worried it's going to fall into a bad habit (I do get a little complacent when watching my alcohol intake) so hubby and I have decided only one night a week and limit it to half a bottle between us.
Winning!
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9 weeks post op today. Gosh, observations are so many.....
I am finally back in the 70's (kilograms that is) which is my happy place - preferably the low 70's but I'm getting there.
My hair is dry, really dry. Need more water and healthy oils.
I'm starting to feel thirst again, but gulping isn't a good feeling. Sip sip sip all day.
My body transformation is astounding. I can see contour in my shoulders, and my legs are back where they used to be when I was very active.
I tan a LOT better than I used to. Weird, I don't know why, but we are at the end of our summer here in Australia and I have the BEST tan! 🙂
I've been more out and about doing things, feeling more motivated.
I become exhausted after a short amount of exercise. This is incredibly frustrating.
Alcohol hits me, HARD.... 😞
Poop is back! Ha, I know, TMI. But I am back pooping daily or every other day and they are normal woohoo.
I'm not scared to try all foods now, just in tiny amounts to begin with.
I was asked if I was ok the other day by a shop keeper at our local pet and pool store. She thought I was ill.... 😞
My body self image is nothing like reality. My imagination doesn't allow me to try on clothes that will actually fit me, I still feel fat.
Just my thoughts at 9 weeks. NO REGRETS!!!!
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Last week I poured out all the alcohol in the house. I rarely drank pre op but about 6 mths post RNY I stopped declining wine with dinner and very quickly recognized that I was experiencing the food to alcohol addiction transfer.
I'm so glad the alcohol is gone! If anyone feels they are on that slippery slope I encourage you to do the same. So much easy to resist if it is not in the house.
Also, for the first time in 6 months I've broken out of the gain/lose/gain/lose the same few lbs stall and have started to lose again!
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I’m SOOOOOOOO HAPPY you beat that and recognized the problem and took care of it. Great job hon!!! I hope you find peace and rest in something healthy, should you need an outlet as well. I can’t say Great Job enough!!!!!! 👍😁 I’m really happy for you.
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Uh oh! Something happened to Matty this week. I was in a local Wawa (think east coast convenience store) and a gorgeous girl ran smack into me while I was grabbing a grape Propel - just couldn't deal with anymore water today. She was texting and walking ... okay, yeah, this missed me as Gen X'er. Well she looked up at me and flashed me one helluva smile. I was feeling pretty good that day so it was time to bring out some game, "So you know I can't let a gorgeous girl who crashes into me go without getting her phone number." LOL! She turned beet red, asked for my phone and sent herself a text message from mine. She said, "Because you men never call ..." I don't know quite what I was thinking but figured it would be one heck of a ride. What is it with me and short girls? I seem to attract them and I don't honestly care about height. She's all of 5'4". I knew she was young but it didn't occur to me how young. What did I just get myself into?
I told myself no dating until the scale reads 190 but this new me is feeling sexually driven like I have never been before. Well, she's right I wasn't really planning on calling her so she called me. So I told her my age (41) and was shocked to hear that she generally goes for men older than 35. We must've talked on the phone close to 3 hours. You're going to think I am lying when I tell you she's a 3rd year med student and is interested in training to be a bariatric surgeon. The stars might've just aligned but I want to go slow and told her that I had weight loss surgery. She's totally my type - the professional, highly educated, and ambitious woman. That's what frightens me, because in the past, this has lead to unhealthy relationships. Well, I've got a date lined up for Saturday and I just want to have some fun. I needed money in order to make this happen so I sold a bunch of old computer equipment and managed to raise some capital for this adventure. I know I won't be drinking alcohol but that's okay.
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No @MN_Meg770, you're not out of my league. You're just too far away :-( I like you very much and if you lived in my area, you'd be totally dateable. As I wrote before, having a type is not really healthy a thing and I am hesitant to get into a relationship with someone whom might not be very understanding of a disability.
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Wishes that having asshole, worthless, selfish, alcoholic fathers WASNT something i'd have in common with my own daughter... Guess that star was already used...
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down another pound this week......it was really hard to stay away from all the alcohol for the fourth but i managed to have only one drink, empty calories are so tempting
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Dear Santa, I don't want much for Christmas, I just want the person reading this to be happy. Friends are the fruit cake of life --- some nutty, some soaked in alcohol, some sweet, but mix them together and they're my friends At Christmas you always hear people talking about what they want & bought. This is what I want: I want people who are sick with no cure to be able to be cured. I want children with no families to be adopted. I want people to never have to worry about food, shelter & hea...
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What I Learned At My Support Group Meeting
Fun size posted a topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I am still pre-op but I go to as many support meetings as possible. Tonight our surgeon came in to talk about some problems some patients who are a few years out are having. He said alcohol abuse is becoming a big concern. He said recent research has shown that 54% of bariatric surgery patients with no problems with alcohol have drinking problems a few years out. Several post op people confirmed that they knew post op people who drink a lot. Some people said that food addiction is replaced by drinking. This whole subject is food (no pun intended) for thought, don't you think? Have any of you heard this before? What else I learned is that bypass surgery is NOT for me. So may people in the room had bypass and they have big problems with hunger and cravings. The few people in the room who were sleeved didn't have those problems. I knew that the sleeve is what I wanted from the get-go, but this decision is reconfirmed regularly by what I learn along the way. -
Post-op instructions regarding physical activity?
littleroo1 replied to mandi78's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Mandi, my official post-op instructions were not to drive or drink alcohol for 24 hours after surgery, obviously longer if you are taking narcotics. That I could regain normal non-strenuous activities within a day of the surgery. My surgery was on Wednesday at noon. The next morning, DH and I took a trip 45 minutes south and I got lots of walking in. Aside from being a little tired and sore, I knew it was in my benefit to be moving around. We took another trip the next day and we were at the zoo for about 5 hours, walking around and standing. I would sit when I needed to. I went to work yesterday with no problems. Here I am 6 days out and each day I am less sore each day. By the end of this week, I wouldn't have any problem with normal walking/standing at all. I really think the key is to be up moving early. The night of my surgery I went to Target - not for long, but I did. I didn't have any restrictions on what I couldn't lift either. If it was too heavy, I'd feel it and stop. Like I could pull my suitcase, but DH had to take it off the bed for me. I think you'll be fine! As my surgeon said, you will be surprised how well you feel afterwards! -
When will it be ok to have alcohol particularly wine Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
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I think the answer to this may be the same for other people with addictions to things like narcotics or alcohol. How many times have you heard someone with a drinking problem say, I can't have just one. Is it not the same for us chronic overeaters? For many of us here, or perhaps even most of us here, food is an addiction. Some people decide on wls when the either have an epiphany or reach rock bottom. If you come to a point in your life where you are going to risk your life by going under the knife to solve an eating issue, this is frequently a catalyst for change. For me, banding was my last choice and I never came lightly to this decision. I have been on a dieting, binging, obsessing, emotional roller coaster for too long. It was eating up too much of my life. I am done with that lifestyle, and therefore, I have a band and I control my eating 90% of the time and don't obsess over the 10% where I don't. Like overcoming any addiction, you have to be ready to commit to a change. The desire to eat unhealthy from time to time will not go away for most of us, but we must take personal responsibility for our choices. Some of us will succeed and some of us will fail, but the important thing is to work hard to overcome those things that have ruled our lives before.
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I get really bad pain in my left shoulder/neck if I end up eating too much or too fast. Instead of getting a full tummy the pain is reflected through to my shoulder and neck. My doctor told me if I didn't have the lapband, instead of getting shoulder or neck pain I would probably have really bad heartburn/reflux/indigestion. I've never had any of those problems before, but I assume my neck pain is better than getting that Not sure if it's the same pain as you, but just thought I'd share incase someone else gets this pain. I also get unbearable pains in my arms when I drink alcohol, to the point of laying on the bathroom floor crying and screaming for about 6 hours lol. It's because my body wants to throw up the alcohol, or just from bad reflux, but the lapband stops it and reflects the pain into my arms. So I rarely drink, and when I do I prepare myself to deal with a lotttt of pain lol. I went to my normal doctor about these problems heaps for like a year thinking it was something major like blood clots, and then I saw a new doctor when my normal doctor was away and he knew straight away both problems were lapband related
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Ug. This REALLY bugs me...although no one has told me, personally, that it was an easy way out. I live in a small town, so I think lots of people know how EASY it is...yeah...working out at least an hour every day (most of them don't do that!), eating small amounts, very rarely drinking alcohol, and (mostly) choosing healthy foods! When people say that, just tell them how hard your work out and choose to be healthy! All a band is...is a tool...like your GYM membership. If you don't use it, it won't work!
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I know it seems that it would be hard to be overweight if you are a picky eater but I really like the bad things. Okay - So, I have to give up one vegetable I really like - Corn - that is okay - but - I don't like yogurt - unless it is TCBY. I already hate the Protein drinks they make me "gag" just mixing them and I picked the best tasting one - What is a picky person to do. I bought frozen fruit low calorie and thought about making alcoholic free frozen drinks - anything wrong with that - Also, like Bacardi mixes - I did find some low calorie. Anysuggestions would be appreciated - maybe because I haven't made myself watch so much lately - I am missing something. Thanks
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Scared of the gastric sleeve
Momonanomo replied to *LaLa*'s topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
First, welcome LaLa And, it is SO natural to be scared. Use this forum as much as you possibly can to find out about the whole process. Knowledge is power. Also, you can read about what people are gong through at various stages in their journeys and think to yourself "What will I do when I come to this? How will I best handle it?" As far as the starch thing goes -- omg I was such a carboholic. Sourdough was like crack for me! lol! I never never never would have thought I could get over my addiction, or at least get it under control. But, here's what worked for me. I treated this surgery like what it is: a SURGERY. On my stomach. And to best protect that staple line while it's healing, you *cannot* eat things like sourdough! For quite a while. I went without the starchy things from the beginning of my 2 week pre-op diet to several months afterward, and you know what? It was like a detox. So yes, you will be putting yourself in a position where you could harm yourself medically if you eat that stuff, and for em that's what it took to break its hold on me. After your stomach is healed and you're cleared for real food, be very careful about reintroducing that stuff because by its very nature it causes you to want more. As far as the alcohol goes... well you will need to be drink free for a while to let your stomach heal. Once you're cleared to drink, please be very VERY careful with the alcohol. Many WLS patients get into trouble with what is called a "transfer addiction" with alcohol, because it is liquid and goes down easy, and when you can no longer indulge in a food addiction it can be very easy to transfer that addiction to alcohol. Be very very very careful if you feel you may be susceptible to this. Do you have access to a counselor? if your program had you take a psych evaluation, perhaps you could see that person some more or have them recommend someone to you can talk to. If you truly are not ready, they will help you get to a place where you are. And remember, we all had nerves about this. So we're all here to help you with yours! -
Hi, This Saturday, I want to attend a 40th anniversary cocktail party. I'll be two weeks post surgery. I won't be eating at the party but I would like to have a drink. Since carbonated beverages aren't allowed and sweet cocktails will just make me sick, any suggestions? I know alcohol is discouraged, so wine isn't an option either. I would love to hear what others do in these type of situations.
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What to drink at a cocktail party?
Rena's got this replied to Happygoomom's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Oh yes! Lemonade with a lemon slice would be wonderful. I'm not much of a drinker, so I don't know a lot about what would work, but could you get a diet margarita and just hold the alcohol? You could still rim the glass with salt. Or better yet, a frozen diet virgin margarita... -
While the arguments regarding 'replacement addiction' does address 'sport eating' with 'sport drinking', and the notions of 'addictive personalities' etc all have elements of truth, I reject their conclusions as being necessarily 'the Truth'. Granted we are all weak & seek maximum pleasure by virtue of birth, as a 'behavior' school of interpreting our actions, other theories seem just as likely in my own situation. Boredom, habit, cluelessness, maladaptive spirit of adventure, inattentiveness, and a wide range of other factors influence my own eating behavior. When I gave up alcohol literally overnight circa 1988, there was no sudden surge of increased replacement consumption. Overeating had been present for decades preceding that event, and continued apace without the influences of Demon Rum. Sport Eating is a behavior I better manage by direct means of confrontation and observation WHEN it is occurring.
It is all good.
