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9 weeks post-op here. I can eat like 2 Oz dense protein. Then it starts hurting my little sleeve. Sucks Bc I sorta still feel hungry but I’m so uncomfortable

You didn't mention this, but their flour was rationed and consumption extremely limited, as were fruits. You just listed a host of confounding items. Also limited as you mentioned is sugar. So during this time, they limited sugar, flour, fruits, baked goods. They ate high fat tinned meats, high fat butter (limited), real meat was limited, eggs/bacon as was alcohol and beer were limited...many fasted but def observed a calorie restricted diets. BUT, the issue with the people who do low carb or keto is NOT that it's our way or the highway, or that we believe and say that ALL people MUST low carb or die...the issue is with having alternate agendas so rudely and repetitively shoved down our throats and lambasted for believing in the efficacy of our woe (way of eating). The other issue is having our dietary choice misrepresented by nonfactual BS. And most of us are sick of it. Cuz the OP posts it OVER and OVER and OVER ad nauseum. Like it's being shoved down our throats with the force of Thor's mighty hammer. Most of us who are objecting are all in the same camp: THERE IS NO ONE DIET that is suitable for everyone! LOL. We pretty much all agree that we must find our own path through the woods to arrive at a sustainable liveable diet that turns into a forever lifestyle. And that is A-okey-dokey with us!!!! I'm glad this high carb diet works for OP and others. I am. More power to them. They clearly did not have the same degree of metabolic derangement or medications that necessitate a low carb, adequate protein, lower fat diet as I have. LOL. That's ok. LOL. The even bigger question is why then, if they can now magically tolerate all manner of carbs, why did they get so fat they needed bariatric surgery? And how is their lifestyle modified so they won't repeat history? But I do hope we all agree, that you wouldn't give a diabetic or pre-diabetic heaps and heaps of carbs and expect their insulin levels and blood sugars to improve. At least I hope that's a universal understanding cuz if it isn't, then someone is engaging in magical thinking. And btw, wouldn't it be fun? Let's all make a pact to meet back here in 3-5 years and measure our success with pics, weights, and tape measures.

It's so sad that people are so judgmental! My surgery is scheduled for October 31st and so far I've only told my children (all adults), my boyfriend, brother and sister in law. I'm afraid to tell my mother bc she thinks I'm fine as I am. I will tell her beforehand though. Like someone else said earlier, I told my boss and coworkers that I am having a medical procedure done and thats it. It's none of anyone's business especially on the job. I'm taking 2 weeks leave and hopefully I'll be feeling well enough to return full-time.

^^^I'm not worthy! I'm not worthy! (to @MIZ60 and @jess9395 ) The other thing that is hilarious is that "fat people are getting cancer cuz of eating massive amounts of dairy!" Excuse me but there are a substantial amount of fat mediated cancers. Which came first the chicken or the egg? The researches of these fat mediated cancers (of which hormone positive bc is one seem to say that the "Diabetes Type 3", meaning the progression of metabolic disease started the cascade toward obesity and over-expression of hormones from androgen conversion in the fat along with the insulin resistance and high blood sugars that set up rapid inflammation and upregulation of mTOR and igf1 (among other inflammatory factors) that led to the progression and genesis of these same fat mediated cancers. In my case, when I was 6 months old dying of ITP, and receiving massive doses of prednisone to try to stem the rush of the ITP--and for the next 11 years of my life where I battled that "type of blood "cancer"" and had copious prednisone courses--more on than off, I was already set up for metabolic disease which is why I developed full-blown PCOS by the time I was 14--which later progressed into Diabetes Type 3 - hormone positive breast cancer. And my being fat--I hardly ate dairy my whole life--some small amounts of cheese, came AFTER the metabolic derangement. But of course, my diet that was super high dairy gave me that horrific Stage 3C disease. LOLOLOLOLOL. You are so full of sh*t it is hard to even stand your presence on this board. Why don't you go back to school like you claim and ACTUALLY learn a thing or two about biochemistry before coming here and trying to assert your intellectual superiority here.

Ahhh well goodness that makes sense and I guess stirring the pot gets her lots of credits bc she can post responses and such.

I was unable to locate specific guidelines for the BC Complete Medicaid program dealing with bariatric surgery. I don't believe they have a separate criteria but I may be wrong on that; however here are their guidelines for other plans. I've included a LINK and the PDF. Good luck! Michigan BCBS Bariatric Medical Policy I've also attached the PDF file in case the link doesn't work. BCBS Michigan Guidelines.pdf

My Dear Bari Sisters and Brothers. I’m alive! Hallelujah! But I’ve been through the ringer. The ER visit last Thursday did not help. I was throwing up every 10-15minutes on Friday. It got...bad....Started having numbing of fingers and toes and felt like an Elephant had taken a seat on my chest. Hubby failed 911. Long story short, I wounded up in bad shape at my surgeons hospital and was admitted right away. I was displaying classic acute Stricture symptoms. And I was severely dehydrated. I thought they would just scope and dilate me, and that would be that. But nope! Surgeon was gone for the day and I had to begin a LONG and exhausting wait for Monday to come, and I had not eaten since Wednesday night! Ofcourse they did their favorite thing and put me on Nothing by mouth... It was torture. Thirsty, naucious, the minutes oozed like molasses, waiting, suffering. They tried to make me comfortable but...the wait was excruciating. My highlights were the kids and hubby visiting in the evenings. I hated kids to see me this way. Monday morning finally came and I was SO excited. Relief was surely on the way. So you can imagine how I literally BLEW A FUSE when my surgeon waltzed in at 1:30PM and instead of prioritizing me and putting me out of my misery, asap, he proceeded to to into Surgery to do a Tummy TUCK! Lets just say I got the hospital director involved. Problem is...he owns the whole center, he’s the ultimate CEO, what’s she gonna do...call the boss? GRRRRR.....I was livid! The added stress is that I knew I had a flight to Europe on Thursday (ie. Today!). I was not scoped till 5:30PM Monday, and was in limbo for a while from anesthesia. They kept me Tuesday through evening to make sure I could tolerate liquids, the softs and fed me well before they cut me loose. It tasted like heaven. heck, my shoe would have tasted like heaven at that point. Got home at mid-night Tuesday and had one short Wednesday (in my compromised state of energy), to get the house as in order as I could, work, pack, think through what I need to take to be successful on my first Airplane ride and long haul trip since surgery). Stress was the word, but i prayed my way through it. I even got a USB chargeable blender on Amazon. The kids were so happy to have mama home. My 8 year old son and 6 year old daughter. And then came this morning...and as I was dropping them in school, I had to let them know mama has to go out of town till next Friday. :( I bearly made my flight. I have a whole suitcase of Bariatric stuff. If I had more time I would have documented what all I prepared. But alas, I was RUSHING! I just landed in New Orleans and the first leg of my journey went well. I ate a bit of airport bought humus on the flight. Waited 2mins between bites for good measure! Had two mini pretzels and drank water in between. I am about to board the big Transatlantic flight. Nervous about how I will do. I will always live with the trepidation that a Stricture might return. Cabin pressure and all...but God has not given me the spirit of fear, so I press on. Hope you are all doing great. I have had zero chance to catch up. Please, do say a little prayer for me! Love and hugs, PS: Attached area pics of the lovely flowers kids and hubby brought, my heavenly first meals, and the card my son made for me.

It was suggested that I start a thread on this topic seeing as I do have first hand experience. This is the founder of The Pound of Cure, Dr. Matthew Weiner. The link is to his Youtube channel. https://www.youtube.com/user/DrMatthewWeiner My story started about 4 years ago I would say when I chose to seek out BS (Bariatric Surgery). I first reached out to a different clinic in my state. But I ended up never scheduling my surgery through them. THANK GOD! Ok now fast forward to January 2018. I got on Youtube and started watching videos and doing more research. That is where I found my saving grace! LITERALLY! I reached out to his office and scheduled my consultation. From my very first phone call into the office its been nothing but a positive learning motivating life changing experience. Every person I came into contact with made an impact. They are so helpful. My first time meeting Dr. Weiner I really didn't know what to expect with only seeing him on Youtube. But I will tell you that he is the same exact person you see in the videos. It is very easy to talk to him and open up to him about questions or concerns. I had to do 6 months of a pre op diet required by my insurance, so we started right off with ways to start changing my diet and how I really look at food. He is very encouraging and prints out step by step suggestions for your entire process. His idea behind Pound of cure really helped me loose 20 lbs before my surgery. If I was struggling with areas of my diet he had many different suggestions on things I can try. You can tell he really speaks from experience. He would ask me what my trouble areas were and gave me different options to try which I wouldn't have tried before. When eating a pound of veggies a day was first put in play it was quite daunting. I enjoy veggies and I thought I ate enough of them but quickly realized that I just needed to tweak a couple things. I feel like my taste buds have changed a few different times along my journey. Even this past week I have noticed changes. For my surgery with Dr. Weiner. That took place at Oakland Regional Hospital in Southfield MI. Dr. Weiner is part owner of the hospital. EVERYONE there was great. I went home the next day and did great until about 4 days out. My taste buds changed and couldn't take in ANY protein. So he told me about his smoothies and I was able to do that for a while until I could take in more food. I also had problems with my vitamins. The taste was absolutely horrible. So he switched me to the capsules. He listened to my struggles and made one suggestion that helped drastically. He really knows and understands what bariatric patients are going through. This program has changed my mindset on food. I now eat for necessity and fuel for the day. I know everyone has different results from the surgery and their program but I do not feel hunger. I most definitely feel when I am full. I've seen posts that his program leads more towards a vegan lifestyle but not completely. I will say that is true. I had a horrible time with cheese for instance. The crack of all foods right. Well now I no longer eat cheese and if I do I use vegan cheese. He even suggested recipes to make our own. I would never have started eating beans if it wasn't for him. And my new tummy LOVES beans. Those around me don't but hey I have to eat what I can eat. I can most certainly get by with out eating animal protein and I think anyone after surgery could. I know for me I have chosen to not eat animal protein if I don't have to. I've had chicken for dinner for example and that next morning I felt completely different. I just knew right away what it was. You have to eat what makes you feel good. With his program I get by drinking ZERO artificial protein. No shakes, no powder. I cant stomach the taste. Even the unflavored is a lie. It is flavored. Greens and beans give me life I know every program is different and there are those people that strictly abide by their surgeons word and that is fine. That is clearly also what I do. I am not suggesting you do anything different unless your body is telling you that you need to change something. If something isn't working for you WHY NOT seek out alternative options. Only you know your body. Only you know how you feel and what things feel like in your new tummy. Go with your gut. No pun intended I am only speaking my experience and what I went through. If you are in the Michigan area and are looking or someone you know is looking into BS I would say for sure reach out to his office. If you've had complications from a previous BS again I would for sure reach out to his office. He also fixes previous botched surgeries or those with complications.

I had my gastric band put in in 2009 and lost 41 kg (90 lbs) over about 18 months. I then had abdominoplasty in 2012 to get rid of 5 more kg (11 lbs) of skin. Once the surgeon took the fluid out of the band for surgery it was stuffed! I could never get just the right amount of fluid in - 3.5 ml and I couldn't swallow even water, 3.25 ml and I was starving. As a result I ended up gaining back 32 kg slowly over the last 6 years. I finally got fed up of feeling tired and fat and in pain all the time with bad knees, so asked my bariatric surgeon what we could do about it. He suggested revision to RNY, and I trust him implicitly, so said ok. I had my band removed on July 17th and it was alright. I was only in overnight and like Matt he used the same incision points as my original surgery so no new scars (not that anyone looks at my belly anyway ). I did have a lot of post op shoulder tip pain, but that went away very quickly. I'm also very allergic to any kind of tape and developed a terrible blistered rash under the OpSite he used over the incisions. The only other downside was that I was able to eat anything I wanted and in large portions. I gained another 6 kg before my RNY on 26 September. The RNY surgery was super easy. I was admitted at 6:30 am, taken to the OR at 7:30 and back in my room and wide awake at noon. I asked the nurse doing my obs if I could get up to go to the toilet and she said I could so I took myself for a walk around the ward before getting back into bed. I had absolutely no pain with any part of the surgery. He used Dermabond glue instead of bandages or Steri-Strips and it's pretty much all fallen off now. I think the worst part was having the drain removed 2 days post op. I was only in hospital for 2 nights, which suited me fine. I think people recover better at home where they can lie in their own bed, not be woken up every 2 hours for someone to check blood pressure and such. I did go home with a terrible head cold (that I think my partner gave me) and developed shingles on the side of my face and up my nose, but honestly I'm sure that was a side effect of my body having to try to heal itself from the surgery and then the head/chest cold on top. I'm now 3 weeks out from the RNY and could not be more happy with my decision. I'm down 2 dress sizes and the pain in my knees is so much better.

As DSERS our Bs are quite often high without supplements.

I should have read through the entire thread before posting the above. Having a range of values for anything on a nutrition label is completely normal. That is just a part of the food manufacturing process. I agree that this is a bs lawsuit. This does not rise to the level of false advertising IMO. On a separate note, I also disagree that casein is inappropriate for WLS patients, and that whey is superior.

The third month of my 6 month supervised diet and exercise program I gained 9 lbs! I had slacked off and was not feeling motivated and didn't weigh myself so I actually didn't know I had gained that much. I have gotten back on track and have lost 5 lbs. Will my insurance company deny me because I gained weight that month?? I have Anthem BC/BS. I've got 6 weeks left until my 6 months are up and I get submitted for approval. Sent from my SM-N960U using BariatricPal mobile app

I was on and off Depo for years. My favorite bc, EVER. But I got scared off because of the effects on calcium and bone density. https://nwhn.org/depo-provera-and-bone-mineral-density/ Also when I went off depo after 3 years, it took me over a year to get my period back. I didn't like that the hormones had built up in my body for that long. Also if I had wanted to become pregnant during that time.it wouldn't have been possible. I got the Mirena IUD just prior to my WLS. I agree, it hurt like a b*tch, and I have irregular spotting both light and heavy since. But I like that is is the most effective form of bc, and I don't need to remember to take a pill, or go get a shot, etc.

Sleeved Tuesday. Extreme diarrhea. Dr wants me to keep drinking and go to ER! What’s the point? Until I eat solids, I’ll go to ER?? This is BS! Before the surgery I asked this question and was told it will all work out! Any suggestions???

Hope your surgery went well and you had a great experience! In case anyone else reads your topic and is wondering, my surgery was on Weds, I was discharged on Thurs, went back for swallow test on Fri, and we flew back on Sunday. We gave ourselves extra time bc we had to fly to/from Philadelphia and I have chronic back/neck pain. Also, we were planning around Xmas & NY's and wanted a reasonably priced non-stop flight. I could have probably flown a day or so earlier, but as it was I was surprisingly comfortable. We had an overnight flight 11pm - 5am roughly - and I used my heating pad for the few hrs. we sat in the airport. Then took my night time meds right after we boarded and the anti-inflammatories they gave me upon discharge. I slept for several hrs. and woke in time to watch the sunrise over our final hour descent over the city. Was actually pretty cool...

Why is that? I am the same way, pre-op I only drank water, and tea (and a little wine😉). Now I want to drink ANYTHING besides water. Is it bc we are eating so much less that having flavor any way is helpful? Having an infused water pitcher in the fridge has helped me a lot, way cheaper than buying lots of potions and drinks. Only problem is that my kiddos want to drink all of mommy's "juice water". 😜

It could, it could, I am recovering from an inch of rAW BANANA. Oh that won't hurt anything. Wanna bet? My chest gets hurting and at my age that is not a GOODb sign. And I puked and puked a while more. All from,an amount i Imight have fed a baby with. See that's where smart people can excel, I cant get any.

My (ex) bf and I have dated for nearly 5 years; he lives with me. The last year of our relationship has been rocky anyway, but ever since I told him I had decided to have gastric he became even more standoffish and argumentative. Two weeks ago we had a huge blowout over something completely idiotic, he comes back to the house, and says he has been acting the way he has because he thinks that once I lose weight I am going to leave him and that's all he can think about. Mind you... I have not even had the surgery yet. He said I am going to lose weight, gain self-esteem, realize I am too good for him, and leave him. Well, guess what, pal... I don't need to lose ANY weight to realize I am too good for you. It's been a long time coming, but I think it's even sadder that he is using my choice to get healthier as a justification for being an a*s. The only thing this does is put me in a rough position as far as someone staying with me while I recover. My mom and stepdad are going to take "shifts" as long as they can, but they both work. And the ex is currently dwelling awkwardly in my basement, but will probably not give me a hand at all. It does make me sad because I had hoped he would be there at the hospital with me... but then all of this BS happens. *insert gigantic eye roll emoji here* I am okay, though. I need these next 12 months to focus on me and getting healthy and fit and not dealing with unnecessary dramatics and stress. I have always thrived when single and he actually had moved out of the house for a year and it was fantastic. I hate to say it, but I'm looking forward to this new chapter - of not just weight loss, but of being single and free!

Here’s what I’ll say: Having any of these surgeries is like becoming a parent. You don’t “get it” until you’re already in it. You can’t prepare enough. Everything’s different despite all your preparations. It’s an organic thing that you have to live out and there’s no quick fixes. No one can really advise you specifically bc each case is slightly different. Or drastically different. You just have to prioritize your hopes and make your choice and then live strong with it. It’s a no regrets business bc you can’t go back. Nothing is ever the same. But the payoff is worth it. IMO so far.

@Foxbins thanks ill defn pick up soon as a precautionary @Sosewsue61 thats how mine is before only when i eat super spicy or super greasy foods, i just normally choose not to eat those foods otherwise no problems what so ever @TX4everLinds yea i saw that about the carb coma..one girl in this VSG/RNY group im in (she had RNY) out of nowhere a few years post op she said she took a bite of cake at a baby shower and started to feel bad so she left and ended up passing out and wrecking her car in a ditch.. she said she and the car was fine and luckily no one else was involved but she said it scared her bc it could have been way more serious and she just wanted to warn people to be careful bc dumping at any point is very serious

@CrankyMagpie thanks for the links, im going to check those out! @GreenTealael thanks girl! ill keep yall posted on what i decide @JohannaLea true, ive seen that a lot and i wonder why some people go back to old habits idk if its bc it is a habit or that they thought this was a cure not a tool like it should be and though "hey ill lose all this weight and still eat what i want" i recognize this is a tool and have seen a therapist to work on my over eating issues and get help to see why im doing these things. i see the tool as help but not a solution, you have to change how you eat and look at food as a lifelong commitment

I just had my sleeve on 9/5/18 so I’m a month and 4 days out. This month has been difficult but it’s nothing I didn’t read about beforehand. Somehow the gerd/reflux took me by surprise bc I’d never had it before. I’ve been out on nexium for 90 days and everyday things get better. I have high hopes it is short term while healing, but it was a real struggle when I didn’t know what was going on. I chose sleeve bc I did not want severe dumping. I had seen others sweat and dump and even fall asleep in carb comas on holidays after just a bite of pie. I wanted nothing to do with that. It affects everyday life. GERD does as well but is treatable and (I’m hoping) temporary! I also did not want my intestines changed at all. Gastrointestinal system is so important I just preferred to leave it how God made it! My 2 cents from a fresh sleeve. I did not think I felt hunger at all but think maybe now some of my nausea was actual hunger. Keep in mind I was (and still am) figuring out how to meet protein and water goals. It is very difficult and during healing your body sorta takes over. You have to follow its lead. Good luck!

Had surgery the 2nd and the tightening is calming down. It was the worst with water.. like you protein shakes have been the easiest thing. This morning I had Greek yogurt thinned with milk in the blender. It was a bit foamy and that was not going to work.. I took about 4 sips and knew I had to stop bc it felt like it was going to come up but never did. Just had 1/2 c homemade potato soup thinned and that was completely fine. So good!

@Matt Z i never would of thought of that, thats a good idea! one they gave me as a suggestion was mix unsweetened applesauce with protein powder and god that was awful it was like the texture of slime that kids are always making nowadays and it was just a big nope for me...they said to do cottage cheese and i hate cottage cheese now taste wise period but i figured id try it after surgery and see if my taste buds change worst case my hubby will eat it bc he loves cottage cheese but its never been a thing for me

@CrankyMagpie thank you! probaly a good idea bc i dont know what my new tummy will tolerate.