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Hey thanks for asking - its a data dump here... My current insurance is not who put the band in. That surgeon was all about the patient. He wants you to be successful for you. So if you need 45 office visits in 20 days to get the band right he would be all hell ya........Kaiser however - my current insurance is not at all tolerant. I should say I even had Kaiser when I had the band put in. But because they were and are still mired in the simplicity of get your head straight, move your rear, and put down the fork. Any lack of success is a failure on the patients part NEVER the procedure. I should also mention I interviewed 4 surgeons before picking the one I did. The backlash in medical records from subsequent docs has been palpable. They do not like being screened, or competing for the job. So here I am after almost 4 years of success backsliding. Needing a band adjustment does have some play with what is happening (I have had 1 fill post op, one unfill 3 months ago, and one .25cc fill 3 months ago thats it!), but the sabotage is coming from me. I am "eating around the band", although I have minimal restriction. I am not moving and my motivation is in the toilet...heck if it was in the toilet I would go and get. The real prob is that I don't know where to find my motivation. So I am just lamenting that I can't go to my doc and simply say this isn't working for me know, is there another tool I can use? What is new, what are my options this week? He will and did 2 months ago tell me to diet and exercise....not we should work on tweaking your band, we should consider changing your band, hey we have a weight loss discussion group you can join, anything, something...nope it was all back on me and damnit if I could have done it on my own I would never have been in this position in the first place. like an alcoholic I will always be a "foodie" but an alcoholic can live without booze, I HAVE to eat
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You Can Gain Weight With The Sleeve
Ms skinniness replied to MINI-Me's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Coops I have a question. What kind of protein bars do you eat? How often do you eat them? I know that my protein bars have around 200 calories and up. I eat Pure Protein Bars that have 20g of protein, 6g fat, total carbs 16g, fiber 1g, sugars 2g, sugar alcohol 6g. They taste really good and are very filling. What would happen if you cut everything back to proteins and broths? There has got to be something that will get your body back on track and dropping those extra lbs........ I'm also stuck and am thinking that I need to start working the program and starting from basics again. I need to lower my goal weight to 135lbs. So, I'm back on the boat again. I am so looking forward to hearing you say you've lost a few lbs finally. That will be a celebration for us........HUGS across the pond! -
I work in the GI department of a hospital. Today we had a patient who was 14 years post gastric bypass. She looked great, but had started having pain in her upper abdomen. She had also started drinking alcohol fairly regularly. The endoscopic exam revealed a horrific ulcer at the jejunum-gastric anastomosis. I have seen other post bypass patients with ulcers and erosions at the anastomosis, but hers was the worst by far. I do not want to offend anyone, but seeing the damage done by becoming a bit careless or overconfident, even years after surgery, was enough for me to commit to NEVER touch alcohol, and certainly never to smoke. I will not drink coffee again, either. I had surgery to improve my health and I never want to risk it by slipping into any habit or vice that could do damage to tissues that obviously remain more fragile for many years, if not forever. To anyone who cares to listen, please heed your doctor's instructions when he/she tells you not to drink, smoke, or eat/drink particular items. There really is a good reason, and what I saw on the endoscope today really brought that reality home.
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I feel bad that this post has become so negative! I think it's okay to have some alcohol if you like to, after your doctor's okay, and as long as you keep track of the calories. Yes, this IS a lifestyle change but some of us want to have alcohol in our lives for whatever reasons. I just want everyone to succeed at their goals and have a fabulous life, whether they drink or don't. We're all here for the same reasons - support!
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Good to hear from Lisa and Bandista. I've noticed that my arthritis is generally better this year since I made some major f ood changes. I do get occasional (bad) flares, but they come and go pretty rapidly and are, I believe, correlating with stress. Anyway, when I'm not in a flare, I have a much better overall pain level than I did a year ago. What changed? I gave up fried f ood 9 months ago, all alcohol a year ago, and most refined carbs 9 months ago. I'm down over 20 pounds since last September. I'm not at goal but I'm slowly losing. I really wish I could get motivated to exercise. I really hate getting sweaty. There, I've said it. JustWatchMe
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Any April 2018 Sleevers?!?!
brookeville777 replied to Itsnicoleee's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I really need for someone to please tell me if sugar alcohols are allowed in pre- op. No one can tell me. My sugar free protein bars have them in them and I just realized it and it's after hours -
Sounds like you had a seroma, I guess it's pretty common for us. But can be scary and a bit icky. I would doubt you are getting a fill, most docs won't even thin of a fill until at least four weeks out because you have to heal and the scar tissue has to form well enough to help hold the band into place. Might be a nutrition appt, too. My surgeon's office combines MD appts with a chance to talk with the nuts. About being hungry, you're not going to like this but the beloved Diet Green tea may be the culprit. I have found over the past six months that if I drink something with an artifical sweetener in it I am HUNGRY within about 60-90 minutes. Even though we aren't eating sugar, our body is tricked into thinking we are and it says: EAT. This is especially true with Splenda products for me. The sugar alcohols are still processed by the body like sugar and though you don't get the blood sugar spike from taking in a carb, you still get the dip and the release of gherlin that says: Feed Me! It took me about three weeks without artifical sweeteners to conquer that feeling. White carbs (simple carbs) like enriched flour and refined sugars/high fructose corn syrup make it awful, too. I switched to making my own decaf tea (or kool-aid, lemonade, etc) and sweetening it with either Stevia (a natural plant derivative available in bigger supermarkets in the health food section as a supplement or in health food stores) or Blue Agave Nectar (has calories and carbs but is low glycemic index, so it is verrrry slowly processed by the body and gives no spikes or dips in blood sugar levels). I wish us all luck.
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this is just gonna sound wrong cuz im a girl.. but im only 3 weeks out i know i shouldn't be drinking but its really hard not to when you work in a bar.. im not downing shots by any means, but ill have a shot and sip on it for a while or a drink and sip on it.. I found out why they tell you not to drink.. IT MAKES YOU GAIN WEIGHT! lol.. Damn.. so i will stop drinking for now until im a while out cuz i don't wanna hinder my losses.. However i do have to admit.. that it didn't really bother my stomach and i think im part of the few that alcohol doesn't really affect me any differently than before. i have noticed tho that it burns of quicker.. but i dont get uncontrollably drunk or anything.
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Alright Banstista that's what I have been talking about I don't care who's watching or what they think I dance like nobody's around , in fact I went with another friend ( Woman) & we went to this little hole in the wall restaurant & three was a blues band , I dance pretty much to anything & it's good fun sweat exercise , shoot I didn't drink any type of alcohol for almost 20 + year's then I had 2 glasses of wine now I know that's all I can handle LOL started to get that tipsy feeling SO I drank a lot of water & flushed it out but MY family is like your not home much anymore LOL cause I actually get out & do more now I think even though I'm living with them their starting to miss me LOL
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Did anyone succeed in friends and neighbors not finding out..
AZhiker replied to newchange16's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I told no one except my husband and kids. Not even my parents know. Yes, people have asked about my weight loss, "How did you do it?" My standard reply is "This is what I am doing............." By the time I get to no sugar and no alcohol, they usually walk away. My other standard answer, "Most people who lose weight regain it. If I am still thin in a year, you can ask again and we can discuss it." Because I tell them what I AM DOING, not what I DID, I do not believe I have lied to anyone. Interestingly, the only overweight people who have asked are ones who could stand to lose 20 - 40 pounds, and who would not qualify for surgery anyway. What I tell them about dietary, exercise, and lifestyle changes is spot on, and exactly what I AM doing and what they could be doing. A morbidly obese person has NEVER asked me about my weight loss. I have relatives who have lost a LOT of weight and then gained it all back. I saw them at Christmas, and they never even mentioned or asked about my own weight loss. I think it might have been a little threatening to them, and they might even be waiting to see if I gain it all back by next Christmas. I still don't intend to mention surgery to anyone. It's my personal business, and I have watched reactions about other people who have had surgery. It's the "easy way out," or "all someone has to do is eat less and move more," or "why would anyone want to mess up their internal plumbing." I am just not secure enough to wonder about what people would be saying behind my back or always putting an "asterick" by my name in their minds: "Sure, she looks good, but she had surgery...." -
Gastric Sleevr Vs. Bypass
AZhiker replied to NYCGirl9269's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Yup, I got an ulcer in the first year. I don't smoke, don't drink alcohol at all, no caffeine at that time, so soda - absolutely no risk factors, but there it was. Doc thinks maybe one of the stitches didn't heal well and caused a spot for irritation, Anyway, a couple of months on omeprazole and that was done. Never had a problem since. I drink small bits of decaf coffee now, but not much. No alcohol, no soda. I also developed blood clots in my legs about 10 days out. Again, no risk factors except obesity, major surgery and varicose veins. I was out of bed walking the halls within a few hours after surgery and doing 10,000 steps a day by day 7. 3 months on a blood thinner that that was done. However, I developed phlebitis in those darn veins again just a couple of weeks ago. So I think I just need to have the veins taken care of with an ablation. -
I've seen people asking if they can drink alcohol 1 week post op. That has nothing to do with a doctors strict post op regime.
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I can't make a decision
GreenTealael replied to CashmereAndBones's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I hear that yo yo dieting is straining on the heart and other major organs (can someone confirm, I've never done it). I'd would rather succeed the first time than fail five times just to end up back at the same conclusion two years later that I need surgical help, if you take a look at my post, you can absolutely have a life, everything in moderation. I don't go off the rails and eat whatever. I work everything into my plan with my NUT especially vacation and special occasion foods. I don't eat sugars that are not naturally occurring in foods and those I use sparingly, I use stevia if I must have added sweetness the other sugar alcohols if nothing else is available. You are going to still have to practice portion control and restraint after the procedure. Restriction provided through it does not last forever. What this procedure will do is give you a running start so you can exercise, you can learn to eat less, you can make better choices. Not everyone does and that's why not everyone has the success they hope. In the end it is still all on you. VSG2017 HW 249 SW 238 CW 169 -
I was told no alcohol the first six weeks. You might want to check with your doctor.
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Alcohol isn't supposed to BE your liquid diet. And four glasses of alcohol contains about a days worth of calories.
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December Bandwagon Supporters
pink dahlia replied to NaNcyNiCoLe's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
im rarely on forum as im usually busy with other things, but if this is any help...............i was banded LAST December 13, 2011, and i cant believe it almost been a year ! Im down 63 lbs , feel great , get lots of compliments, and cant believe i have my life back ! I swim and walk , follow the Drs rules 95% 0f the time and watched the weight roll off. I 've gone from 225 lbs, frumpy size 18-1x clothes to 163 lbs, wear a size 14 skinny jeans, my sleep apnea is gone, i look and feel healthier and younger, and it just keeps getting better and better ! I still can eat 90% of normal foods , including thin crust pizza, steak, pineapple and celery. the only favorite foods i had to give up was broccoli and thick chicken and thick pork chops, and i can only eat a few bites of any potato item before they expand. i cant help you with the soda pop or alcohol problems as i dont like soda but have a margarita every month or two. Most wheat breads are fine, but depending on the type or brand of biscut i might have a problem. hope this helps you calm your nerves, getting banded was the best decision ever ! Good luck ! -
Checking in on this Monday.....decided to do a juice fast and liver cleanse for a few days to clear out congestion and joint pain as well as general band care, a break from caffeine & alcohol, return to better habits, etc. The periodic fasting works well for me and usually gives me a new number on the scale that I can dance around with for a while. I think I have about fifteen pounds to lose, though I won't be sure until I get closer. Really working on toning these days. Got an inversion table (free!) and am doing crunches to tighten up my belly, which is still a little flubby. Missing the big walks and coming up with strategies for the winter. Happy Thanksgiving, everyone! We are seeing our elders then sneaking off to the city for a couple of nights. Looking forward to the getaway.
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Consuming all your daily calories in alcohol is NOT healthy. Keep talking but I'll never believe otherwise.
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Alcohol is empty calories...
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Well my scale says 348 this morning... finally down from the 350-351 it's been saying... though my ticker is still set at 346 which I was about 2 weeks ago! I'm still debating on a fill tomorrow or not. I've kept my appointment. I'll go and see what the NP thinks. Basically, I go on vacation a week from today, so if I'm too tight I can go back in for a slight unfill before I leave... I"m not too concerned about that. I just want MORE restriction!! I dunno. This whole band thing is hard. Lol. It's good to help feel full faster and stuff, but if it could only make Snickers taste nasty I'd be in business!! For years now I've said that I wish there was a medication for food addicts like antabuse for alcoholics. Lol!!!
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Death and sadness.
Kindle replied to LindafromFlorida's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I lost my younger brother July 3, 2012. We were very close and only 13 months apart. He literally collapsed in the hallway walking to the bathroom in front of his girlfriend. Despite autopsy and toxicology testing, no COD was found. Healthy organs, no aneurysms or clots, blood alcohol .03, no street drugs and normal, therapeutic levels of his Rx drugs for ADHD. I was beyond devastated and functioned on a " bare minimum" mode for over a year. Other than making it to work, I didn't leave the the house. I tried to numb myself by eating and drinking. I went to bed in an alcohol haze every night. And the clincher is I didn't WANT to feel better. I'm sure you all are no stranger to these feelings. Not sure what happened, but after about 18 months something just switched in my head and I decided I didn't want to be in pain anymore. This surgery, among other things was my way of taking back control of myself. I still miss him every single day and it's hard to comprehend that we will never again talk and laugh and be able to share our lives and childhood memories. But he was always kind of a "troubled soul" so I can only hope he's found peace now. My thoughts and prayers go out to all of you with lost loved ones, especially for those of you that are having to watch it happen. -
Ashland, Ky
Bloomer723 replied to Natalie Alley Perkins's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hey Molly! I did have my psych appointment today. Really no big deal. I had to answer some questions on paper that were looking for eating disorders and drug or alcohol problems. Also a couple questions on mental health stuff and how you have felt in the past week/month. Easy peasy and she approved me with no further psych stuff. -
Ashland, Ky
MollyF22 replied to Natalie Alley Perkins's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I haven't even tried any alcohol yet. I want too but I think if you wanna try it then do it. As long as your past the point of having a leak then it should be okay. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-J320A using the BariatricPal App -
Giving up 21st Birthday..
Inner Surfer Girl replied to Lacfish13's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I wouldn't drink because alcohol will have an immediate and significant impact on your liver. Definitely talk to your surgeon ahead of time, but if it were me, that close to surgery, I wouldn't risk it. That said, you can still have fun without drinking. If your friends are true friends, then ask them to respect your decision not to drink. Have fun and Happy Birthday! -
My suggestions are in two separate areas - 1) work on finding out why you are sabatoging yourself, and 2) external controls you can use until you get your "internal" controls back in order. On finding out why you are sabatoging yourself - have you considered talking to a counselor experienced with weight loss patients? If you can't find one with that experience, one who is used to working with other addictions (other than food)? If you are against talking to a counselor - You are going to have to be a dective and find out what are your triggers that are causing you to go out of control. Keep a food diary that talks about what you were feeling each time you ate something - what at that time was motivating you to put food in your mouth. Also, note the times. If you do this diligently for two weeks, you will have enough data to discern the patterns. Once you know what the triggers are, then you can figure out ways to address them. For the external controls - where are you getting all of these foods you shouldn't be eating? Beer, ice cream, chips, etc? In your house? If so - get rid of them. Don't buy them. If you don't have the strength to get rid of them-have a friend come over and get rid of them for you. Newly "dry" alcoholics do not live in a house with alcohol. And you should have a plan each day of what you are going to eat and when that you try to stick to. If you want to PM me, feel free to. I wish you the best of luck getting in control.
