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My doctor's told us that drinking alcohol is a no no. They reported that our stomachs are greatly reduced and is absorbed at a much faster rate and that people have died with WLS from drinking alcohol. Now was this a scare tactic or what? I don't want to risk it. But on the other hand, I might take a sip here and there. Why not?
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Have you ever seen the movie, "The Princess Bride". My favorite character is the spaniard who is seeking his fathers killer. At some point he realizes that he has given his whole life to this pursuit... to slay the man who hurt him so badly... then when it is done... he has nothing. this is the classic "adult child of an alcoholic" that rages against that painful history but I think can sometimes apply to the formerly morbidly obese too. The Spainiard found a new life and I guess in some way, we all need to do the same. It doesn't mean leaving your family or going crazy, but it does mean finding a life that not only feels comfortable but perhaps more importantly supports a lifetime of fitness. I don't have the answers myself but i keep finding small building blocks of happiness and contentment and adding them to the construction material for the "new life" I am building. for me, the potential is huge. i have been stalled in my career. I think I can fix that.... I need a new career life! Girlfriends - well, a couple of my closest ones moved away. I still have alot of friends and activity partners, but I need a bff - I am looking for one and finally actually OPEN to one. Husband/partner - I have significant issues with mine (not weight loss related) but he is a good guy and I am trying to work them out. Activities - man, I just don't even want to hang with the TV watching, restaurant eating crowd even though I used to be their leader...lol. I just make small choices everyday that are slowly building a different way of living. Harsh reality is that even skinny people have to do their dishes and pay their bills - dammit and here I was hoping to be swept away like a princess once I was skinny (not really, but you know there is still that tiny fantasy of an easy life when skinny). The main advice I give myself is to just not go nuts and radical since sometimes my ENERGY is just so huge it won't fit in my regular life. I find outlets for that energy (60 minutes of spinning is an outstanding choice for that!) but it is still something I watch to not find a transfer addiction or something. Shopping has the potential, but I keep it in check...lol I find myself needing multiple outlets for my energy and desire to explore the world as a skinny person - I think that as time goes on I will settle into some sort of calm and boring routine like most people...lol
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How soon were you able to drive?
bschmidt25 replied to Naturelover's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I drove 5 days post op after I had stopped taking the pain meds for over 24 hours. I was overly cautious about it. First time, I drove a very short distance with my wife to make sure I felt OK and that I wasn't driving badly. It's important to note that in many places, DUI laws don't make any differentiation on alcohol or drugs. If something happens and they determine that you were impaired by drugs or alcohol, you can be charged. Not something I wanted to risk. -
What is off limits after post-op diet
OutsideMatchInside replied to Bary's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
The real answer is unless you have a stricture or some other complication. Nothing is off limits long term. I can tolerate everything I try. There are some things that are not worth it to me, but nothing makes me ill. I drink alcohol rarely and when I do, I adjust all my calories to account for it. That makes alcohol just worth it to me. I'm not really willing to short myself a pork chop or some halo top just for some vodka. I also don't want to have to spend an extra hour in the park the next day walking the calories off, so it is a no for the most part from me. Beer is gross to me and with the added knowledge that drinking it is like drinking a loaf of bread, that is something I will never add back. If you are active with a normal metabolism, you might be surprised at how many calories you have to play with at the end, when you are in maintenance. The important thing is to track all along so you know this information and you aren't just guessing. A lifestyle and not a diet accounts for going off plan or having something you do not normally have. Daily I have dense protein 3-4 times a day and coffee. On the weekends or when I am out I eat what I want within reason and that fits my calories/macros. If I went out daily or several times a week that would have to adjusted but it works for me. I think people telling themselves they will never have XYZ again leads to depression, anxiety and feeling deprived. Long term you can eat whatever you want, the difference is what you want will hopefully be very different. -
What is off limits after post-op diet
XYZXYZXYZ1955 replied to Bary's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I was told that alcohol would be two or three times more potent than it was pre-op, and as I couldn't really handle more than one drink then, I'm sure I better just steer clear of it entirely--no big loss for me. I don't think there are any things we can't ever have, but judgment has to play a big part of this. I know I'm better off avoiding carbs such as bread, rice, potatoes, so I'm going to try to do that. Steak, on the other hand--steak is definitely in the plans down the road! -
What is off limits after post-op diet
Lovergurl replied to Bary's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I heard alcohol will hit you very quickly because our stomachs empty so much faster. But seriously, your taste buds go through some major change. Mine started before I even got sleeved. Now sweet is overpowering sweet. I think cake or ice cream would make me sick. I have to say last night my husband had pepperoni pizza. I snagged one and put it in my mouth to try the flavor. Heavenly but WOW the flavor was intense. My dog then got a treatLOL! But it told me flavors are more powerful to us it seems. Right now a chicken breast and veggies sound like heaven but I've got another 30 days. Oh and I have zero hunger. This is nothing but mental at this point and honestly barely there. -
13 days post op and struggling
Hollyhock replied to nadinexx's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
I don't know. The first surgeon I went to when I was preparing for a sleeve told me no alcohol for a year. Alcohol is an extremely concentrated sugar. She said I would eventually be able to tolerate a few sips now and then, but because you don't break it down the same way, just a few sips will get you very drunk. Also, it becomes much is easier to become addicted to alcohol and there are a number of people who fall into substituting alcohol addiction for food addiction. So if you drink wine, be very careful about it. You should probably check with a medical professional first. -
Going completely public about their surgery?
Rachael replied to DaddyD's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
I told everyone I worked with, my family and most of my friends. I didn't tell people who I thought wouldn't be supportive...ie--I didn't announce it on facebook. I am glad that I shared the information with most of the people in my life. I know two other successful band-ers and their support has been priceless. I also didn't want the rumor-mill running at work. My husband and I work at the same place and I just decided to be honest and up-front about it. I don't regret my decision. 99% of people I worked with have been supportive and very nice. I do once in a while get snide comments---my aunt saying that she would like to lose weight but doesn't want plastic around her stomach, etc. But, I am doing this for my life and health and I am proud of my decision. As an adult child of an alcoholic parent, I am tired of keeping secrets. I want to live a honest, happy life. -
I was sleeved on Sept. 17th and my doc recommended no alcohol for 1 year, and definately no beer.
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Yes, alcohol is processed quicker so we're a whole big group of cheap dates now. I have read studies that alcohol addiction is a big risk for post-op wls patients. I have tried a little bit and it gets my tipsy really fast, but only lasts a short time, and makes me feel sick/dehydrated after. I really don't enjoy it at all anymore, and I used to drink a glass of wine or two a night. I'm actually glad for the change =p
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Pnut, I am worried, you're obviously such a sweet vivacious person, and alcohol, especially large quantities is -so- hard on the body. Please take care, I have a brother who is an alcoholic, who has been sober now for a few months, his common law wife of a few years also an alcoholic passed away from massive organ failure due to her alcoholism earlier this year, the time he quit drinking was right after her death. She was only 36 years old, and alcohol killed her, it came as a shock to all of us. I truly believe we all have a right to do what we want with our bodies, but I can't help but feel the forums are here partly to help support one another in getting not just thinner, but healthier. I don't know whether you have a problem with alcohol or not, but please, do take care of yourself. A lot of us who struggle with food/sugar addiction, also struggle with alcohol or other addiction... It's been a fine line for me once years in the past. Be well. XO Leila
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FYI- Super Tight after fill that was done over 2 months ago...
aubrie replied to kgloverii's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
Jackut. I don't do well with high protein either. I get bloated and gassey and so constipated I can't move. It's miserable. I recently got uncharacteristically tight after a long 4 day weekend away with girlfriends at a retreat. I ate very well, lots of veggies, etc. but wasn't drinking my water as I should. When I got home I PB'd 9 times in one week. Prior to that it was only twice in 10 months!!! I lost 4 pounds that week, but couldn't eat a thing. Three bites and I was in the bathroom. Dehydration hadn't occured to me. that was three weeks ago, and I'm still tight off and on, but I have to say, I have also been enjoying a glass of wine in the evening more often than usual, and I know alcohol can dehydrate you. I'm going to test this theory as well. Seems plausible to me. Let me know how you do with your experiment. -
1. Food: chocolate 2. Alcohol: I drank from age 17 to age 31. Not everyday, not every weekend, but enough. Now I only have a drink on New Years and my birthday and hubby's birthday. 3. Marijuana: I was a pot head from age 20 to 31. I quit cold turkey and never looked back. I didn't smoke everyday or every weekend. Only when friend's (if you can call them that) had it to offer. 4. Internet: they need an IA chapter (Internet addicted) and a 12 step program!
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I Became A Drunk After My Gastric Sleeve Surgery
maybesleever replied to YearningToBeThin's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I am in the same boat you are in. So glad you posted, as there are not many frequent posts on this topic, although I am finding out that cross-over addictions are extremely common after bariatric surgeries---one person mentioned as many as 80% have this post op!! I, too, formed a cross-over addiction to wine. It started roughly 3-6months after my surgery and I am 1 year post-op. I believe I always "abused" alcohol, but it really escalated when using food, etc. was no longer something I could turn to as a coping mechanism. I hit my rock bottom, and am now actively trying to reach sobriety. I find that isolating is my downfall, and people in the recovery community are so caring and generous if you reach out. I had a terrible day yesterday and reached out to people. I had a tremendous response which was a lifesaver. I am finding however, that no matter how common this link is between VSG/etc. and cross-over addictions (which I hear over and over,,,), I still can't seem to find specific people experiencing it that I can talk to for support. So would love to chat with you if you are interested. We could discuss by phone or email if you like. A fellow VSGer in recovery! -
10 days before surgery - having anxiety and doubts, help!
JerseyCityGal replied to 2NewBeginningsxoxo's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Natrol makes a strawberry chewable/dissolving Biotin. I'm like a 5 year old when it comes to Vitamins and pills. I want fruit flavors and dinosaur shapes if at all possible, lol. I go out to eat all the time. It's not a problem. I have a stomach the size of toddler. Does that stop toddlers from going out to eat? Nooooooo. They are everywhere you look. Are they all worked up because they can't eat a mountain of food? Nooooooo. None of them are feeling deprived. They're happy. You will be too. I get 3 full meals from an entree, a little less if I share with my pets when I get home. No one gives a damn if you clean your plate or not. It's all about the fun, going to a nice place and having good food. You can make good food choices from any menu. I very rarely drank before surgery and I found my alcohol tolerance has lessened, but every once in a while I will order a drink before dinner and have a few sips because I want to. Four or five sips of wine or a Cosmo while waiting for the food doesn't affect the food volume for me. I don't make an issue over what or how much or what I am eating and no one really notices. Of course my weight loss is really noticeable, but I have been talking about things like "the gym" and "watching what I eat" in general so the comments I do get are encouraging and playful in nature. -
SLEEVE TO BYPASS REVISION
Tlmarsh replied to MissLaLa05's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I was a band to bypass. So glad I did it. I had problems the first year, mostly just learning experiences. If I had eaten exactly as I was told, I wouldn't have had any problems. But most of us have some addiction problems with food and we push the boundaries. Now I feel like an alcoholic who takes anabuse. It's a drug that makes an alcoholic really sick if they drink. I get really sick when I eat sugar period. Sugar was my weakness. And now that I am over 2 years out, I sometimes eat too much and then in 20 minutes I feel it. So I keep trying to remember to eat only one cup of food at any meal. Eat 3 meals per day and eat Protein first, then veggies and fruits. I do sometimes feel an emptiness inside where the sugar used to go...not in the stomach...I am learning that for me, being creative is a must. I have to have creativity in my life regularly. Some find a love of exercise and that takes the place of the food. Most of this journey is in our heads not our stomachs. And it's a wonderful journey of self awareness and learning to love ourselves from the inside out. -
Spivak and Spiegal - Tell me more
mini_me replied to cpbaby's topic in Weight Loss Surgeons & Hospitals
dr. spivak gave me a case by case run down of all the erosions that have occured in his patients. he told me of 4 or 5 of the last 2000 bands. all of the cases had pre-existing conditions that contributed...ie-ulcers, alcohol consumption, admitted use of medications which are not recommended for use with band, etc. i cannot remember all of the details right now. he was very forthcoming and informative. i really think highly of him. -
I Became A Drunk After My Gastric Sleeve Surgery
Jen35 replied to YearningToBeThin's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I'm so glad you posted this! There are so many strong people on this site posting about their struggles with addiction. I know it's hard to share such personal information, but it really does help others to know they are not alone and that addictions can be managed. I am a little over 6 months out and I can see some tendencies toward other addictions. I'm certain I am a food addict and I've been in counselling for a year now. Just the reaction I had after my sleeve surgery when I couldn't eat my feelings anymore - it was the WORST feeling I've ever had. I used to eat until I was numb and was "high" on food (I compare it to getting drunk). I can't do that anymore so my brain automatically wants to look for a replacement. I'm really keeping an eye on my drinking, shopping, etc. The counselling has helped me be aware of my issues and, if I'm aware of them, I feel like I'm gaining some headway to healing. It is also helping me to feel my feelings instead of suppress them with whatever (food, alcohol, etc.). It's a really difficult process, especially when you suffer with anxiety and depression. My brain really fights feeling my emotions! I've used these coping skills my entire life and now I'm trying to change - very hard thing to do. So I guess my point is that none of us are immune to the possibility of other addictions. But awareness is the key. If you are aware of the problem (or potential problems) you can get the help you need. Hang in there - you're not alone - and YOU CAN DO THIS:) -
I Became A Drunk After My Gastric Sleeve Surgery
donewithdieting replied to YearningToBeThin's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
How is everyone doing? I'm sober since Feb5 2013. `7 months. Never thought I would be a drunk but I know I can't touch the stuff anymore. Made it to goal a week ago. and am working on maybe another 5-10# lower leeway. Doing my eating from noon to 8 pm daily. I like this I don't go to bed stuffed. Occ. will be hungry but I sleep much better. If I have cravings for alcohol I will just take my L-glutamine and I'm good. I don't go to meetings I'm doing this on my own w/ help from these forums. Lets keep this forum alive. Linda -
Okay ! I tried this yesterday and today and it is WIERD but is working. Dont know if I will ever not want to sit and eat a "regular" hamburger or something. Thanks for the support. I need it. I guess I am like a alcoholic, the wanting part never leaves but I have to realize what the "bad" thing is doing to me which is eating like I use to do. It is hard to eat out but I am trying to eat a nibble or two and wait. Seems to be better today. I am getting the "is that all you are eating" from everyone. I have no idea how many calories, dont even want to try to figure it out. I feel fine though. More energy than ever. I know... box, box, box !
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Poll - Democrat or Republican?
ELENATION replied to KariK's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
OMG! I felt like crying, what a sad story... I mean, just unbelievable... I do feel bad for him because obviously he drank to medicate himself, plus I strongly believe that alcoholism is an illness, and then the incident with the little girl...who I feel horrible for and her family, and then after everything he already went through, he had to endure this also... I believe his heart was broken too... where his body injuries the reason he died? was he very sick? oh how terrible.... Was is ever determined if he was indeed drinking while he was driving that day? Oh Lord, what a story... I can only imagine having to testify....thank you for sharing this..:thumbup: -
What EXACTLY is clear liquids for pro-op diet?
Rachael replied to Ssauce74's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Probably a bad idea. My mother in law suggested it to me before my banding....LOL. I would stay away from alcohol. Gatorade makes a Protein Drink...it is called repair. It is clear. Not too bad and it got me through before surgery...the bummer is that it is too sweet for me now, even watered down. Good Luck!! Rachael -
Help! The Mother Is Coming! <Cue Jaws Music>
taylokat replied to Madam Reverie's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
LOL I hate the taste of alcohol and I can't remember the last time I drank it. The closest I get is eating chicken Marsala! -
Alcoholic Drinks
WishMeSmaller replied to SummerTimeGirl's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Make yourself some low sugar sangria with dry red wine and diet orange soda. The bubbles from the orange soda are minimal to non-existent when mixed with the wine. I like about 60-40 wine to soda mix, but adjust to suit your tastes. This was just my go to while camping over the 4th. Alcohol hits me way harder these days, so use caution. -
Why I'm considering a lawsuit...
michelelavell replied to rlynn's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
First I want to say that I am so sorry that you feel you've not had a good experience with your band. Second, I want to say that I am pre-op scheduled for the 17th of this month. Third, I want to say that THIS FORUM has been an AWESOME resource for information, support, stories, inspirations, and has only fueled my anticipation of joining the MANY people who have success stories here. I don't understand how anyone could read the posts on this site and then say they wish they would have read here first or they would have never gotten the band. To me, that makes no sense. I'm not trying to make light of your situation, but I just can't see that. To me, a successful surgery is one I wake up from and with little or no complications. THE REST IS UP TO ME!!!! Only having one fill since having the band put in isn't following what most doctors advise. You have to be completely honest with yourself (I'm just saying in general, not YOU specifically) about your eating, exercise, and following the program as it should be. WLS is not a magic bullet or bean or anything other than a tool to assist you in losing weight. If it's not working, then maybe you aren't working it like you should. Kind of like an alcoholic can quote the 12 steps all they like, but if they don't work the program or actually TAKE the steps... its meaningless. If I were to be completely honest, I would say how much it bothers me that we live in an overly litigious society and people think that they can cure all their woes by suing other people, but I don't want people to think me inappropriate. If I were to continue to be completely honest, I would say that if I were to sue my surgeon for me not losing weight when I haven't been following his/her instructions as well as the dieticians would be as silly as me suing Taco Bell for being fat! I think, being the honest person that I am, I would maybe look in the mirror to find the person to blame for my lack of success after being given all the tools I needed to be successful. But... that's just me. Best of luck to you anyway.
