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Gastric Sleeve to Gastric bypass revision question
catwoman7 replied to Green1's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
you can revise sleeve to both gastric bypass or duodenal switch. I know of several people who've had those revisions. you can also revise a bypass to a duodenal switch, but that's a complicated surgery and only a few surgeons in the country are qualified to do it. Basically, they have to completely reverse the bypass, then create a sleeve, then do the intestinal part of the DS (DS is a sleeved stomach with a partially bypassed small intestine) I don't know the answer to your other question (about the pain) - maybe someone else will. -
Gastric Sleeve to Gastric bypass revision question
Green1 posted a topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Has there ever been an issue to where people have chronic back pain issues after the sleeve? I had a gastric lap band to sleeve revision about 10 years out. I've had back spasms in my back. It is in my back and in my upper leg and thigh area. Can you get the gastric sleeve be revised to other procedures? Can you get it revised to a gastric bypass? Can you get it revised back to its old way or to a duodenal stitch? Anyone heard of anything like this? Any ideas? Do you think a revision would stop the pain? -
I had the same path of band, sleeve, then conversion to bypass in March. I didn’t have any trouble with insurance, but I have Medicare and a supplement. I also had three different surgeons. The first two were in Mexico for the band and then Las Vegas for the sleeve so I had no follow up as well. I explained to my surgeon that I didn’t really use the sleeve properly due to stress in my life. I also had GERD which probably helped with the approval. Good luck to you, I hope that you are able to get your revision.
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Mental & Behavioral Change
emilygrace replied to ocdennise's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I hope your revision went well. I found the psychological aspect to be the absolute most important longterm. The restriction and appetite suppression wears off, but your traumas and maladaptive behaviors do not. I have always poo hooed therapy as a bunch of crap, but it was because I was not committed to it, or didn't have the right therapist. Once I found one with whom I had a great therapeutic relationship, I have laid it all out and finally been able to deal with my childhood issues (and I'm in my 40s). I highly recommend the book "The Body Keeps The Score" to explain physical issues and their relationship to mental issues. This has been transformational for me, and allowed me to eliminate binge eating and finally lose the weight I had regained after surgery. I am hopeful that I have found my solution. -
I wanted to see if anyone has had a problem with insurance approving revision surgery. I feel like an absolute failure. I had a band placed in 2010 and had to have it removed because of complications and converted to a sleeve in 2015. For some reason my body just didn’t let me lose the weight as easily as I did with the band. I’ve put back all the weight since then. Im going to see my surgeon on Monday. When I called to make the appointment the lady told me that I may have a hard time with approval since I hadn’t continued to follow up with the office. I went to all my scheduled appointments and was never told I needed to continue checking in. Im just trying to mentally prepare for my appointment. Im afraid they will tell me there is nothing they can do to help me get healthier. I just feel defeated.
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I wanted to see if anyone has had a problem with insurance approving revision surgery. I feel like an absolute failure. I had a band placed in 2010 and had to have it removed because of complications and converted to a sleeve in 2015. For some reason my body just didn’t let me lose the weight as easily as I did with the band. I’ve put back all the weight since then. Im going to see my surgeon on Monday. When I called to make the appointment the lady told me that I may have a hard time with approval since I hadn’t continued to follow up with the office. I went to all my scheduled appointments and was never told I needed to continue checking in. Im just trying to mentally prepare for my appointment. Im afraid they will tell me there is nothing they can do to help me get healthier. I just feel defeated.
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VBG to Gastric Bypass
I♡BypassedMyPhatAss♡ replied to Charlie’s Momma's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
First of all, I would meet with a bariatric surgeon, not a general surgeon. You want a bariatric surgeon because they see these issues regularly, and are at the top of their game with weight loss surgeries. Secondly, if you live in an area that has a university with medical school, find out which hospital they teach at and find a professor of bariatric surgery that is practicing and teaching. They are on the forefront of bariatric surgery. My bariatric surgeon is a professor and she told me that she does revisions that other bariatric surgeons won't touch. Don't take the general surgeons word for it. Seek second opinions with bariatric surgeons. Best wishes! -
Hiii, i just had a revision on June 8 from sleeve to bypass because of severe GERD with surprise hiatial hernia repair. Yesterday was all clear liquids. The pains have been crazy and the poop have been liquid. I also just woke up and realized I pooped the bed. ☹️ This is crazy. I think I’ll be buying diapers for a while. Today I start the full liquid diet.
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Hi everyone, I am wanting to get a revision surgery done from a Vertical Banded Gastroplasty to a Gastric Bypass . I had the VBG done 30 years ago, unfortunately required a couple revisions back then as the staple lining had come undone. I have been having issues for years, food getting stuck, having to purge regularly, herd etc…. I met with a General Surgeon who said, nope, too much scar tissue. Has anyone gotten the same answer but then found a bariatric surgeon to do the revision? After the revision did you lose all your weight, or only a small amount? Any help regarding this would be so helpful to me. Thanks so much!
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too much fat will make you have the orange explosions in the potty, and too many carbs will make your insides cry with gas pains and the resulting smells are noxious (combined with orange explosions, be careful.. jus' sayin'). With a DS, it's protein first. I could tolerate Bariwise cream of chicken protein soup, but not any bouillon broths. Not even store bought brands. Everyone is different, but the average amount of protein a DS'r absorbs is 60% of intake. To reach the amounts the body typically needs, 130-150g of protein should be the goal per day (unless otherwise indicated by doctor). P.S. (edit) It took me about 6 weeks to reach that goal and I am still falling short of it. I had another doctor botch my DS in 2010. I had a revision with corrected limb length on April 18, 2022.
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Good luck! I was banded 11 years ago and am revising to bypass in July, so I have a bit of experience with this. When I eat with new people, I am just very upfront and tell them that I had weight loss surgery and that my eating is weird, so please don't be offended or worried if I don't eat much, eat slow, etc. I'm all good and totally happy unless I say otherwise.
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To count or not to count (calories)
Tufflaw replied to lizonaplane's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I don't plan on ever stopping tracking. It takes a few seconds and for me, personally, it's worth it. I know that after my sleeve surgery in 2016 I lost 120 lbs in about 7 months, then when I slowed and eventually stopped tracking I put almost all of it back on. I had the revision to bypass last November and I'm down about 90 lbs so far, still tracking everything, weighing what I can as well (including myself every morning). If it works, why stop? -
Does Mini Gastric Bypass 'feel' the same as being Sleeved?
knowledge_governs replied to slimsuz's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Hello everyone, I am getting a revision from a sleeve in 2017 to a bypass next month due to GERD. I've also gained some weight back (covid messed with my routine so much! and I got married in a small outdoor service so planning that during a pandemic was very stressful). I've been told not to expect as much weight loss after my revision, which is fine as I lost 100 lbs the first time around and have only gained about half that. Acid reflux relief is the goal this time but I wouldn't mind getting back to my goal number. I was also told to expect more dumping symptoms and food sensitivities. Did other people experience those as well? -
7 yrs post sleeve---now revising to RNY due to GERD
knowledge_governs replied to gabbykittyvsg's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Same issue here. I had the sleeve in 2017 and the acid reflux is so bad I can't lose weight. The only things that temporarily help the symptoms (even while on meds) are bread and milk...so not great for weight loss. Hard to tell if some of the weight I've put on (i lost 100 lbs with the sleeve and have gained half of it back, mostly during covid with being so sedentary) are making the symptoms worse. Were your GERD issues resolved after the surgery? Did you have any symptoms with your revision? Any changes to what you can tolerate food wise? Mine is scheduled in July and hoping I can move past this pain/discomfort I've had for over a year and get to a place of healthy weight maintenance. -
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Help! VSG or Bypass
liveaboard15 replied to RaisnHL's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
SOOOOO TRUE!!! The price difference for my place between sleeve and bypass was about 5K. but like you said. If you need revision down the road... that $5K blows up to around 25K. Very good thing to think about -
Help! VSG or Bypass
I♡BypassedMyPhatAss♡ replied to RaisnHL's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
These are my thoughts, coming from a patient going through a revision from Lap Band to Bypass... If you ultimately go with Sleeve, you may encounter complications like GERD years down the road. This is due to the Sleeve being a high pressure system. The high pressure created in the pouch puts pressure on the esophageal sphincter and causes it to fail, which results in GERD. It often takes years to manifest, and when it happens, it ultimately forces your hand to revise to Bypass. That's my current situation. When I got Lap Band, I was scared of Bypass. But as I've investigated more about Bypass, I understand now why it is the Gold Standard of weight loss surgeries. It's been around longer than other weight loss surgeries, so it has been perfected over the years. I wish I would've chosen Bypass from the beginning and saved myself a lot of unnecessary complications and I never made it to goal weight either. As for being self pay, and Bypass costing more... imagine a few years down the road having untreatable GERD and having to have a second surgery. So think of the increased expense of Bypass now as an investment if you choose to go that route. If you're having doubts about your PCOS causing cravings, Bypass might help to keep your eating on track, if you're a patient that gets dumping. I'd say you should trust your instincts. Best wishes on your journey! -
Headache after eating fried food
Lillatinmomie2 replied to Lillatinmomie2's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
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Headache after eating fried food
Lillatinmomie2 replied to Lillatinmomie2's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Thank ya I’m feeling much better now, and lesson learned. Yea I’m on solids too got a revision sleeve untouched and able to eat but digesting it is a different story . I’m buying me an air fryer lol 😂 -
Gastric Bypass 18 Years Ago
Tomo replied to The Lynster's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
Hi. Revisions on gastric bypass are usually successful and more effective than original surgery. 60 to 80% excess weight loss, but you would have to follow your surgeon and team advice. https://anmedhealth.org/services/surgery/weight-loss-surgery/revisional-bariatric-surgery#:~:text=Gastric%20bypass%20revision%20surgeries%20tend,their%20medical%20team's%20advice%20closely.n Sent from my SM-S908U using BariatricPal mobile app -
Gastric Bypass 18 Years Ago
RickM replied to The Lynster's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
Unfortunately, revisions tend not to do all that well for regain problems - I like to think about it as your stomach started out being able to hold 32-64 oz, and after WLS it can hold 1-4 oz typically; even after it stretches some and/or adapts, its capacity of maybe 4-8 oz is still just a fraction of what it was, and we have gotten used to living with that. So, going with a "do over" revision just doesn't have the same power as the first time around. Further, the bypass is difficult to work with, so typically the best they can do is to either put a band around the pouch to restrict it, or tighten up the stoma, neither of which have a great track record of success. Probably your best shot at getting on track again and losing a substantial amount in a revision is to look into a duodenal switch (DS) which has much better regain resistance than the RNY or sleeve. Unfortunately, that is a very difficult revision, that maybe a half dozen or so surgeons around the country can do. Fortunately, two of them are here in CA - Dr. Ara Keshishian in the Glendale/Pasadena area, and Dr. John Rabkin in SF. I have seen several patients come through our support group over the years that have had quite reasonable success with that revision, so it is definitely worth a look. The other approach that you might find is to convert your (conventional) proximal RNY to a distal RNY, which basically involves moving the pouch much farther down the intestine, bypassing more of it. It does not have a great reputation for being trouble free (from what i have seen, most insurance will not cover it as a primary WLS procedure, but will consider it for a revision.) I suspect that a big problem with it is that the surgeons don't really appreciate the nutritional/supplement differences with it, (it is much closer to a DS than an RNY in supplement needs) and the patients suffer as a result as they may not get the aftercare that they need over the years. The DS tends to be much less of a problem in this regard as the surgeons who do it do so as their primary or preferred procedure, so they know all of its subtle needs by experience. Good luck in finding a solution to your problems, -
LapBand to Sleeve weight loss?
liveaboard15 replied to Jade Baines's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
i did not have a revision. Just the sleeve. I am 6 weeks post op. Here are my stats so far on what i have lost. of course some are faster, Some are slower. -
43 yrs old, 5'5", BMI 39, SW 235. Loop DS Revision of Sleeve Surgery on 6/2/22. Sent from my SM-N986U using BariatricPal mobile app
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Headache after eating fried food
Lillatinmomie2 posted a topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
My dumb self ate a greasy piece of chicken and almost 10 mins later I get a headache- anyone experienced this? Im 3 weeks post op revision surgery- yep I’m a mess ! Never again tho! -
My surgery is Thursday June 9th, my question is has anyone lost a 100 lbs or more? I know everybody is different and loses differently, but I’m curious about losing a 100 or more. Thank you
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Are there any 25 to 35 year olds on here?
redhead_che replied to Erin18's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I was sleeved at 27. Now I’m 31 and just did the revision to bypass 👋
