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Thanks Mkrupa - Appreciate the post. I'm kinda where you are in terms of it not being part of post op. However - I honestly don't feel like it would hurt either my weight loss or my band - but that said - my body feels a little to fragile to have a glass of wine. Fluffy - Really?? Is that your idea of support? Ultimately I will incorporate wine into my weight loss and I expect my surgeon (as great as he is) to be supportive of that. My view is that if you build a sustainable happy place for yourself with food and the band (even some alcohol) that you will be more successful in the long run. I was half joking about having it now - but wasn't looking for a preacher....
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Could it be worse than the pain meds? Seriously? You are four days post op and want to drink alcohol? Apparently no classes, surgery or all the crap you have gone through is enough to say no I wont drink because its not that it will hurt the band but it will hurt your weight loss in the worst way. Empty calories mean less weight loss. Try consentrating on why you had the surgery and not why a glass of wine should be counted as liquid. What in the world are you seriously thinking. You know what your doctor is going to tell you even next friday? If he is a great surgeon he is going to tell you hell no about alcohol. You are way to new post op to be thinking about something you shouldnt. Just saying but the ultimate decision will be yours of course.
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Every Dr. is different but mine said no alcohol for 18 months and no carbonated beverages at all. I wouldn't risk it. It seems a shame to have gone through the surgery and all the hoops you have to jump through to risk screwing it up so soon. Good luck with whatever you decide. I was banded on Jan. 10th and I'm sticking to the yucky liquid diet.
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It has been over a year since I blogged? wow, I cannot believe it. I am holding up okay, right at 165-168. I do need to loose more, but I have not really been working at it. I have had another issue, come up and I just want to talk about it a litte. I have been drinking wayyy too much. I used to be someone who could have 1/2 glass of wine and throw it away because I just didn't want anymore. I guess I have a cross additction. I have been searching the internet about the topic and apparently it is more prevelant than I thought. I thought I was the only one. I am relieved that I am not. It started in 2009, I think. I would buy some 2.5 buck chuck from Trader Joes. It went down so easy and tasted so good, I just kept buying it, by the caseload! I knew something was not right, but I could not stop and it continued. I really noticed that I had been drinking at least one bottle of wine in December of 2009. I could not remember a day when I did not have anything to drink, crazy, right? I could go one or two days without drinking. But not a week and not a month. I would say to myself (just like the diets) "okay as of the first of the month, I am not going to drink or I am not going to drink until my next vacation. Well, that would never happen. I would keep drinking and drinking. I have now become an alcoholic, which is a bad thing, but the great thing is I was able to go to a meeting yesterday and with the help of AA, I hope to have a sober life. I am taking it one day at a time. I am sharing this because if you are having the same issues, weather it be alcohol, drugs, gambling, sex, etc. I want you to know that you are not alone and can contact me at anytime, for support. I thought I had my food addiction kicked, but it just manifested itself in another addiction.
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Please share your new focus after banding
BJLS replied to mom2amwt's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hi, I was intrigued to read your message about the importance of food in our lives and what to replace it with. I am about to have the surgery done (3 days) and I have already experienced what you're talking about during the pre-op diet. For one thing, I am using this message board to find support and answers to questions that I have. That is the first change I've made and I think it's a good one. There's nothing worse than feeling as if you're the only one going through something - so lonely... I also think that I will start to reward myself with clothing and accessories in place of the food. I know that when I was thinner I really enjoyed clothing and dressing up. Now I slink into the plus sizes section and feel embarrassed by having to buy such big clothes. Also I will use my hobbies of quilting and knitting to take up time and energy. I need to have something to do with my hands. I was used to having as much wine as I wanted with meals and am finding that part hard to give up. I have done it but am struggling with what to use to replace alcohol in my social life. Do you have any thoughts on that? Good luck. Barbara url=http://www.TickerFactory.com/weight-loss/wHhZnhr/] [/url] -
What worked for me was following a very normal, but portion controlled diet - that's foods from all food groups - Protein, carbs, fruit, vegies. Three healthy meals a day exactly as I would have done when trying to lose pre band. Limited Snacks and treats, but sure, occasionally you can have a treat. Limit alcohol, fatty foods and sugar. So I might eat Cereal and fruit for Breakfast, a salad with protein for lunch and more protein and salad for dinner, with the occasional Pasta or rice dish. I worked up to it, but pretty much run for 40 minutes five days a week and go to a couple of bootcamp sessions (which are pretty brutal). I lost easily but slowly (if you consider 100lb in 2 years slow, I dont) and maintained effortlessly ever since, EVEN with an unfilled band. My band was a tool. It meant I stuck with my plans through the endless challenges such as meals out, holidays, parties and just bad weeks but it made me satisfied with much smaller portions. It never stopped me wanting bad foods, it didnt even stop me overeating, since when I had a mind to I could graze on chocolate and Cookies all day. I worked on that bad habit. Looking back, i think the band worked on my mind as well as my body. I really did finally say 'grow up and accept what you have to do" and I just got on with it. I find people nowadays just gratify their every whim and I've really become a person who thinks before she acts in terms of not only eating, but spending money too!
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Accountability thread for October Bandsters!
kcg replied to kcg's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Where is everybody? Missing you since I`m feeling pretty lonely here. Well, I`m doing well but have been fighting with the carb and nuts monster recently. It`s amazing though that I didn`t do the alcohol phase for a lengthy period. Very proud of my pretty little socks. LOL Chocolates were not an issue this X`mas at all so that`s an achievement too. I`ll like to hear from all of you, Claire. -
My addiction
mom2amwt replied to Hopes of a Dream!'s topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
You could have be me writing! I also came to that realization quickly - and it made me very sad. I created a world for myself where it was the food and alcohol that I looked forward too and the people and events were secondary. Having lunch, going home at night from work - it was all about the next food "fix". What to do on weekends with the family - why there was nothing to do unless it revolved around food. I had the same realization day 2 of my pre-op (once I felt human again) diet. Mentally it has gotten easier over the weeks and I realize now that I need to find things that bring joy and happiness that do not revolve around food. On the weekends - I want to start taking my little ones everywhere - so that they too do not develop this terrible habit! I'm not cured - but I am aware of it now! This will be harder for me than the diet.... Best Ann -
February 2011 Bandsters?
dFaults replied to justplaintired's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
@smokey2112 get use to not having as much alcohol as before! I'm kind of scared of everything right now...talk about everything in moderation, geesh, what do I do now??? Glad I'm banded after the superbowl..lol... -
February 2011 Bandsters?
SMOKEY2112 replied to justplaintired's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
No don't have to use a specific type/brand really...just a lowcarb one.. but they didn't say that you could use a whey protein powder though...they just named the ready to drink ones.. they named the EAS, ATKINS, Slim-Fast, and maybe Isopure or something maybe.. I can't remember.. I'll prolly just get the other ones from amazon...those expired ones kinda scare me! OMG I had that 3 hour class today..the last half hour was exercising.. I'm exhausted.. unfortunately I haven't exercised in like 3 years.. but it felt good! I definitely had more energy the rest of the day. Otay.. does anyone know.. this liquid 2 week diet thing.. am I supposed to not have alcohol for these whole 2 weeks.. I know I should prolly just ask the nurse but does anyone know?? -
My addiction
shelley2b replied to Hopes of a Dream!'s topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I'm 2 years into my journey, and recognize everything that everyone's saying. Before the surgery, I would think about food all the time - every day. Even now, I still miss the freedom that I had, I sometimes still order what I used to - then can't really get past a few bites. If it makes you feel any better, I found that since I wasn't hungry all the time, I turned into one of those people who actually FORGET TO EAT!!! There's no way I ever thought that would happen to me, but now when I'm busy, the time just passes and the busier I am, the more weight I lose. This band isn't a silver bullet, but it is a very useful tool that you can use to break your addiction. Alcoholics don't have a Lap Band for drinking, but thankfully - it's helpful for us Food Addicts. -
Post op 2 weeks. Help with cotton mouth
mp8btpc replied to Smillzee's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I think it is caused by being in ketosis which is a great news for your weight loss. I think they have some mouth washes that help with dry mouth (nothing with alcohol in it) and you could try some sugar free breath mints to suck on and just keep sipping on the water. -
My addiction
TracyNYC replied to Hopes of a Dream!'s topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I def think doing the "head work" is almost as important as the controlling the eating. I was always so proud that I stayed away from alcohol and drugs after growing up w/ an alcoholic father. However, I now realize that my addiction became food. I had a year of therapy before the surgery and now continue w/ it 2x a month. It is a big help and continues to be helpful. Hang in there and it does get better.... -
Hi Gang! My internet service went down last night......then I have been at the nursing home taking care of my mom. I hope to get preferred living set up for her by Monday, but if she needs to stay in the nursing home my mother is prepared to pay for it. Those falls and the wrist fracture has scared her into accepting assistance. I had to get out her size 8 clothes to fit over the cast. Therapy is really helping her to clear her mind. Sandy, does you dad have Meals on Wheels available to him? They are inexpensive. I have volunteered to deliver them in our city. He may have to get on a waiting list, but it would take some stress off of you. Also if he does not drive he should qualify for home health and therapy for his arm. I can't believe his doctor did not order it. Medicare pays for those benefits. Sorry your parents were not loving. My mother had enough love for her and my dad. My dad loved us, but being an alcoholic he wasn't there for us. Eva and Apples......wish I was there to chime in on the conversation. Sounds like a lot of fun. Lori.....BooHoo!!! ......no Hawaii for the 4th time this year.......you go ahead and whine. I am sure you will go sometime this year. Sounds like a cool support group. Bath and Body.....Woohoo! What was the fragrance? I am hooked on Japanese Cherry Blossom. My pup hates it. He sniffs at me like I bathed in Skunk....lol. Joyce, I haven't been to the Grand Cayman, but I would love to go one day. How long will you be gone? I know what you mean about our bodies crapping out. This cold weather has made me so stiff. Oh, I would do the same thing on the snow thing. If we had snow hell would freeze over before my kids would offer to help. Well, my sons don't live close enough to help, but that is not their thing. If it is computer related they are all over it. I am not on the train today.....just points. Later!
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Being told I will fail with VSG
Susanne replied to hcwiu's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
Because hunger is not the only thing that makes you eat. People eat because they are bored, lonely, depressed, upset, stressed - and ghrelin has nothing to do with those feelings. That stuff is all in your head. I believe this is partially why we get the psych evaluation... I am 10 weeks out and I do feel the restriction and it is a major tool. But in all honesty, I for example love nuts - and seriously, there is little to no restriction on nuts and I can easily eat ounce after ounce (with 1 oz. having almost 200 calories). So, if I don't control this, I can easily eat an additional 600 calories - 3 ounces of nuts are not a lot. You can also drink an almost unlimited amount, so milk shakes, juices, soda and certainly alcohol go into you like you are not sleeved. -
Do u think one 1/2 glass wine
thinoneday replied to Wildorchids's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I was told not to drink alcohol until i was at least 3 months out. . .you being out only at 6 weeks I can't answer that question for you, you must make that decision. . however you could have juice resembling the same color as wine in a wine glass and make the best of it. . . just a thought. . . happy birthday to you though!!! -
Do u think one 1/2 glass wine
buchannon replied to Wildorchids's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Sip slowly and you will be fine! Alcohol hasn't been a big deal for me with my sleeve. -
I completely agree with you! I realize now that my addiction to food isn't unlike people who are addicted to cigarettes, alcohol or drugs. There are certain foods that I have decided that I just need to not eat anymore...some people who are banded can eat bread and pasta, some can't due to restriction...I can't because they are addictive substances to me. I told my husband the other day that, for me, giving me a slice of bread is like giving a drink to an alcoholic. I haven't had any bread or pasta since I started my pre-op diet in November and I really don't miss them anymore (my NUT says I have detoxed my body and that is why I don't crave them as much). All I can say is I am so much happier now that I am starting to feel more in control as far as food goes.
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I'm here to help...
ifyourstomachoffendsyou replied to IndioGirl55's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
Caught up again. Whew! Such prolific writers. Feel like my cold is letting up. It never got bad. Just felt weighed down and draggy and medicine made me loggy. Maltitol and other sugar alcohols can cause gas. Wish more high Protein low carb products used splenda. Hadn't had an Atkins shake for a few days. Had one this afternoon and had terrible gas a few hours later. Sometimes it hits me, sometimes it doesn't. TMI LOL. Watching It's Complicated. Love Merrill Streep. Gonna get to it now. Cheri -
I have failed my band - SUPPORT GROUP
Victorylover replied to Tabithan's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
Well here goes. I am a recovering alcoholic 16 months sober. I had my band put in 3 1/2 years ago. At first all was well then I got to tight. I started drinking HEAVLY one of the few things that went down just fine. If I was not drinking alcohol I was eating Cookies and drinking no fat mocha lattes. I lived like this for about 1 1/2 years. Now and again I would keep down some Protein, but was more interested in loosing weight, which I was. I lost 70 lbs. and felt bullet proof cookies, ice-cream lattes bring it on! Sept. 10, 2009 I went to rehab to detox from xanax & alcohol. I never told my weight loss Dr any of this. The throwing up continued to the point soft food was all I could eat. I finally came clean after finding out I have an ulcer, dilated pouch and dilated esophagus. I have a 4 cc band they removed most of my Fluid now at 1.1 cc's still in pain. To make a long story short YES addiction does run in families. I hope this helps someone to not take the path i did. I am now digging myself out of the pit i fell in. -
Shakes make me ill
amberakamom replied to servicegirl's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Do those shakes contain sugar alcohols? They will cause the poos. I love love love Unjury protein powder. I look forward to my shakes! -
Day 13 and had a small slip am I ruined now!
MICHELLE LEE replied to karrieremmer's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Wow, green chili and alcohol. You have a very lenient doctor. Im still on soft mushies at 3 weeks out! -
Socializing...aka alcohol.
justplaintired commented on justplaintired's blog entry in justplaintired's Blog
I know I don't need to drink and I plan on making good choices. I just know it will be a little bit hard when everyone else is drinking and eating and I'm sorta sitting there. I was told carbonated drinks are out and the only carbonated drink I have is beer....so non-alcoholic beer won't work. I was also told that you cannot gulp water...that you have to sip and you cannot use a straw? This is from NUT clases. The most important thing to me is that I am successful with this band. I am not happy or healthy being obese and able to eat/drink everything so I am going to have to make lots of changes. I appreciate the suggestion for drinking the protein drink, etc. My life will be changing in so many ways. :-) It's all good! Thanks for all of your replies! -
So one week ago today I had my plication done in Tijuana with Doctor Corvala. Excellent experience. I was quite ill that night and the next day but I am 54 years old and I think we take a little longer to recover, the older we get. I came home on Friday and am starting mushy foods. I eat tomato Soup and I had some potato mashed up last night. The thing I am realizing is that while this surgery constrains quantities, the choices I make are still mine and my calories can either be highly dense and purposeful or sugar and crap. There are still a lot of choices to be made and a lot of effort needs to go into this to make it work. I have noticed one effect though right away and wonder if anyone else has noticed this. I have way more energy suddenly than I've had in years! Before surgery I usually slept 10 hours a night and after dinner was too tired to move. Now I am zipping around the house in the evening and I went to bed at 10 last night and woke up "Refreshed" at 6:00 AM!!! The only thing I can figure out is that perhaps I was exhausting myself with the amounts of food my body had to digest. Any ideas? Also having no alcohol is helping I am sure. Anyway I am not on the scale, have no idea what my weight is but I know with walking and smart food choices I can make this work and I think it's the best thing I EVER did.
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Day 13 and had a small slip am I ruined now!
buchannon replied to karrieremmer's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
14 days post-op I was eating green chili and drinking alcohol. I couldn't even imagine throwing up though, that must have hurt like hell. Just stick to what your doctor and body are telling you.
