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July Sleevers! Let's chat!
heleneval replied to beuTwithin's topic in Weight Loss Surgery Success Stories
My surgery date is July 14 and I'm super excited for this change in my life. I'm a self-pay so I didn't have to jump through insurance hoops. I have pre-op on July 10, and my 2-week diet consists of 2 Protein shakes/day and then 1 sensible (protein like chicken or fish, veggies) meal per day. The day before surgery is Clear Liquids only. I really only have one worry. I'm not worried about the 2-week pre-op diet. It won't be easy, but it's easier than many who have to do solely liquids. I'm not worried about the pain…it's temporary and I can get through it. My biggest concern is possible complications, since I am self-pay. I know that complications are relatively rare with the sleeve, and my doctor has an amazing track record, but if I were to be in the unlucky few with complications, I don't know how I'll afford it. I really don't know what will happen. It's nice to talk to other July sleevers. I need to do a better job of checking this forum. I'm in a few Facebook groups for bariatric surgery and tend to spend my time there. I need to remember to keep coming here! July is coming up SOON! -
Wow this thread is a real gem! I’ve laughed for the last 10 minutes. 🤣🤣🤣 I really don’t have much drama, unless you want to call throwing all of your loving family members out of the hospital room about 5 minutes after I got there post-op drama. You see, the surgery schedule got delayed 4 hours due to computer issues and an emergency surgery and then the bariatric floor was full and I didn’t get to my room til 6pm (my surgery had been originally scheduled for 10am that day). I was so freaking pissed when I discovered that they had held all 3 of us in the recovery room, keeping us drugged up for several extra hours and still expected us to have our 64 ounces Water drank by morning rounds at 7am. When I realized what the time on the clock in my room said, I kicked EVERYONE out and was so angry I actually got dressed by myself and started walking and drinking water ASAP Lol, I vaguely remember telling hubs and mom that “they would only be a distraction” and that because of the hospital disorganization I was behind schedule and needed to catch up! I set the timer on my phone to go off every 45 minutes and I would drink,pee, walk, walk, walk some more,drink, and lie back down. Didn’t sleep a wink the entire night and at one time one of the nurses aides had to follow me around (not difficult as I was moving slow.... but moving) to get me in one place so they could check my blood sugar. Every time my nurse came in to measure my intake and output, I would ask if I was ahead of or behind the other 2 surgery people from that day and would crack him up when I fist-pumped upon learning I was progressing the fastest. Oh and because I’m a pharmacist I had down pat the timing of all nausea meds. I was making the poor man rotate through meds every 2 hours so I could walk walk walk and drink drink drink. I managed to get released by 11am, and yes....... I was first out !
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gastric sleeve vs. Gastric bypass
LaLaDee replied to new_lease_on_life's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I'm three years out and prior to surgery, I had a BMI of 50. My surgeon recommended the sleeve because I was still young-ish then, e.g. early 30s and nutrient absorption is pretty important. My surgeon felt that the calcium/vitamin D malabsorption may lead to bone density issues later on in life (and after obesity, people generally don't have great bone density and are prone to fractures). Most of bariatric surgery is relatively new, so there aren't a ton of long term studies, so my surgeon is just guessing. And most people on the bypass seem to be pretty good about taking their vitamins (which is something you should do with the sleeve anyway). A couple of months after my sleeve I was diagnosed with a range of painful, chronic autoimmune diseases and I'm very thankful that I went with the sleeve because of the issues with drug absorption with the bypass (I have to take a ton of oral medications). Of course, I did not deal with GERD, which means that the bypass is right for many people. With the sleeve, I was able to take my BMI from 50 to 25. Due to aforementioned illnesses and medications, I did deal with some regain, which I am slowly working on. At the moment, my BMI is about 29. I have never felt like the sleeve wouldn't be enough to help me achieve success. All that to say, you can definitely have success with the sleeve or the bypass. As commented by others, a lot of it is going to come down to what your level of commitment, and your ability to change your lifestyle and deal with psychological issues. And you have to educate yourself. You can't drink a diet of only protein shakes forever. At some point, you have to learn how to eat real food in the real world, go to work, socialise and interact with food, people and life. If you haven't dealt with your "issues", you will have regain with either surgery. It can be a tough decision, but I honestly feel that you can find success with either surgery. -
1 Year Post Op - Needing Support, Not Eating Enough
Sleeve_Me_Alone replied to Cynful's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I'm so, so sorry you're struggling. Please know we are rooting for you and want to see you healthy and well. I think first and foremost, you should stick to what you know you tolerate well and do not feel aversions to. Eat as much and as often as you can to help stabilize your caloric intake. Try focusing on what you CAN eat and try to enjoy it as much as possible. Secondly, I would definitely suggest getting in to see a therapist who specializes in disordered eating. Yes, VSG changed your anatomy, your bodily needs, and maybe even your tastes, but this is not normative and getting support will likely be a game changer for you. The sadness, depression, and frustration are all completely valid given what you're going through, but you don't have to stay in this place and there can be improvement. Lastly, I'd say you might want to get in to see a GI or bariatric surgeon to discuss. I also had surgery in Mx and had a wonderful experience and have a very supportive PCP at home, but something this severe might warrant a face to face visit with a specialist. If there are any physical factors they should be addressed along with the mental/emotional pieces. Wish you the very best of luck! -
I think I'd really struggle on full liquids only diet for weeks of pre op. I'm lucky my surgeon found that too many people fail an all liquid diet and the stuff they fall back on is generally worse than including just a meat and veggies real dinner during pre op. Only my final day before surgery is all liquids. I didn't really get to have any food funerals. The bariatric physician wanted me on a pre op diet for 4 weeks ahead of surgery, but when I saw the surgeon a few days later there was a theatre opening only 3 weeks later that he was happy to book me in, so my pre op began immediately lol. I'm still not tolerating a meal replacement shake in the morning, as it makes me feel queasy for at least an hour. Most days I've been having a single scrambled egg and a coffee with 200ml 1% milk as my breakfast (is less calories than the VLCD shake, and once my protein water powder arrives I can include an extra 15g protein in my coffee so will be about equivalent protein). After that I can bring myself to spoon-eat/drink a protein shake make with lots of ice for lunch and don't get queasy. If I get hungry mid afternoon I have some homemade veggie& chicken stock soup while I look forward to a relatively normal meat and steamed veggies dinner. I've been dropping a half kilo a day on this so I figure it's working ok.
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Weight Gained Since Having Gastric Sleeve Surgery
jstachic replied to sleeve 4 me's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Wanted to update everyone. I finally met with the Bariatric Dr, so my test results show, Dr language in parentheses (partial gastric outlet obstruction) proximal dilation of stomach with extream narrow area and tortous twisting body of stomach with reflux, Twisted Stomach the fix(gastrectomy with gastrojejunostomy). By-pass, (approval from insurance on an urgent basis), will need surgery asap, -
Weight Gained Since Having Gastric Sleeve Surgery
reallyrosy replied to sleeve 4 me's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
As a relative newbie I am wondering @ how much people are actually consuming who are more advanced than the first few weeks. There seems to be a real disconnect between my mouth and my stomach. I feel something in my stomach and cannot identify it as "full" but just let's say 'xxx' and yet, my mouth will want to have more and more shoveled in. I had the grocer cut up prepared grilled salmon into 2 oz chunks. I ate one yesterday (even tho I wasn't supposed to start til today) and then followed that with almost 3/4 can artichoke hearts (canned veggies permitted) and an ice pop. I couldn't finish the pop. It started coming back on me. But my mouth wanted more. I kept thinking I will feel better if I swallow this or that. As it turnedout, I couldn't even take my meds last nite...no room. I am still looking for a shrink for support and still breaking off with the old one who is ill and still astounded that I could go thru all the abuse of surgery and not be able to disciplin myself better. I'm not even sure what I feel.... Do wish there was a databank of shrinks who specalize in bariatrics... -
Weight Gained Since Having Gastric Sleeve Surgery
reallyrosy replied to sleeve 4 me's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Kindle, the psychiatric and bariatric medical communities reinforce thise societal perceptions of us as lazy, fat, unmotivated and all the other unpleasant adjectives. I KNOW i am trying my hardest and have not returned to junk food or carbs but the damned binge eating has me snarfing baby carrots! And cucumbers and red and yellow peppers and thats why, I think my gains have been kinda mellow. Im just saying i also reject those negative appelations hate being told i haave the wrong attitude or eat the wrong food. I KNOW i dont. So i find so ething that reinforces my perception and then one of our own tribe tells me im mentally ill and etc. Bah. Humbug. -
Weight Gained Since Having Gastric Sleeve Surgery
Dairymary replied to sleeve 4 me's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
In reality MANY people regain a significant amount of the weight they lost after having bariatric surgery. Research at one north Carolina clinic found that 30% regain all the weight in 2-3 years.http://www.nawls.com/public/102.cfmhttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24463895 Estimates run between 30- 60. And almost everyone weight fluctuates 3-5 throughout out the day, every day. Thanks for sharing. I think it's important for people to see these stats, but more importantly the data behind the stats....... " weight regain happens when patients eat high-calorie soft foods that easily pass through the opening to the stomach. Others gain weight because they do not change their eating habits and do not lose much weight to begin with. Successful results depend on the patients willingness to adopt a long-term plan of healthy eating and regular physical activity." Knowing this puts each of us in control of which side of the stats you end up on. Just like surgery is not the magic bullet for weightloss, statistics are not the magic formula for ultimate regain. -
Regretting the sleeve so much and afraid I will die or have serious problems down the road
Miss Mac replied to KittyCathy22's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
It sounds like your bariatric team let you down by not informing you better about your options and consequences. Well, you can't undo your sleeve, so you may as well hop on for the ride. The first month is tough. Not only are you healing, but your body which has been used to indulging itself, is now being told "no" or "let's find an option for that". Hopefully your surgeon gave you a meal plan to follow that will graduate you from liquids, to purees, to soft mushies, to regular cooked food. For many of us that takes four to six weeks. You will feel so much better when you start soft mushies and may start to get some energy back. The foods that you have to leave behind are the ones that really weren't food at all. Instead of nutrition for your mechanical human body that your soul lives in, you were probably eating mostly factory edibles made from highly processed ingredients. Now you can focus on what it takes to keep a human being alive. You will find that the human body does not need nearly as much food as we thought it did to thrive from day to day. As the pounds drop off, you will feel more encouraged that maybe you did do the right thing and will have a better quality of life because of it. Worry is a waste of time. Poo poo happens in this life, whether it is spraining an ankle or getting reflux, or something more tragic and heart-breaking. Hang in there kiddo. You have already made it through two weeks and lived to tell about. Keep coming here for encouragement. I wish you good luck and good health.- 74 replies
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Sorry I missed this initial question Mikeyy! I had a first appointment at Ashford with the bariatric physician in late March talking about my weight and health history, explaining the sleeve procedure (which was what I went in wanting), the pro-op diet etc. Had second appointment with the surgeon himself, Dr Michael France, only a week or so later, and was able to book in for my sleeve surgery 3 weeks after that on 2nd May. I think the out of pocket costs were about $150 for each of the visits? (may be over-estimating). With PHI the $3500 gap fee for the surgery includes all follow up appointments which so far were at (I think) 2 weeks, 6 weeks, 12 weeks, 6 months, and soon 1 year. Anaesthetist gap was I think $400, and my health insurance excess on admission was $250. Very happy with my surgeon and outcomes. As per our recent private messages, Dr Michael France primarily does gastric sleeve surgery (and I think is the most experience with sleeve in Adelaide) but there are many others who do bypass if that is your preferred surgery.
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How are we all doing May sleevers? I have had a bit of a stall the last two weeks but got on the scales today and have lost almost 2lbs so breathing a bit easier today! I was a bit scared because I read a post on here about a lady that got to 6 months and then her weight just stopped dead and she lost nothing more, even though she was over a year out, scary! I have been slacking a little bit with my drinking and getting protein in, I really need to keep my focus as although I feel fabulous losing 74lbs so far, its not where I want to be. Onwards and upwards with renewed determination!
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August Sleevers Check In
Karen Scott replied to Sweet Pea STL Sleever's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I am doing Bariatrics advantage 27g, premier Protein 30g, designer whey 18g I switch them up. But at my stage 1-2 shakes per day and the rest of the protein should come from food. Yogurt I do cheese meatballs turkey eggs. I also walk about 6k steps a day. -
Tired of sweet protein drinks!
StayingStrong replied to menjaz's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Unjury makes a bariatric protein powder in unflavored and chicken soup. I have also been adding non fat milk and unflavored protein to 1 of those super sweet protein drinks - measuring so it's 70 grams of protein (what my doctor says to have daily) and finding it easier to handle. Good luck!! -
NO Carbonated beverages- FOREVER!
kathy51 replied to Lexington1020's topic in Duodenal Switch Surgery Forum
Thanks for the link to the Bariatric Pal store website . I didn't notice it and it looks like it has lots of useful items. Has anyone tried vitamin patches? -
Lol bully them? ... I’m scared with some people on this site. I’ve been seen conv that I just [emoji102] and than [emoji1436]♀️. I’ll try I’ll try ... on and my YouTube history is all about Bariatric info lol. What protein drink are you doing ? “There will be obstacles. There will be doubters. There will be mistakes. But with hard work, there are no limits.” —Michael Phelps
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I am so jealous of you vegas people. J sorry about the job sucking. I feel your pain. I work with a bunch of lazy bitchy 50 somethings who feel entitlement because they have worked longer than me. Too bad I can run circles around them and have learned more in a year and a half than they have in 20. The only saving grace is the work i get to do in the bariatric center. I heart my nurse coordinator.
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Just Got Approved Through Cigna Oap!
UTGal99 replied to Ready4success's topic in Insurance & Financing
I am with Cigna too and am hoping to get approved soon too. The requirements for them are only as follows, right? 1) 3 months of doctor visits 2) Bariatric surgeon clearance 3) PCP clearance and letter of medical necessity 4) Meet once with a nutrionist 5) Clearance from a pyschiatrist 6) Meet BMI requirement Anything else I should be aware of? -
I'm Researching Bariatric Sleeve Plication Surgery In Mexico. Has any one had a good or bad Experince there. My Insurance will Not Pay For It In States. I Have High BP, Border Line Diab, Good & bad Chol Border Line. Nothing I do Helps. Bariatric Surgeon In States Say"s This Will Get A Lot Better With Surgery. My MD Thinks This Surgery Will Help Me.
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mexico bariatric surgery
Banding Together replied to power's topic in Gastric Plication Surgery Forum
Dr. Ortiz is a good surgeon but he is not the pioneer surgeon for plication - where are you getting that information? Has it been suppoted by the IFSO?Dr. Lopez Corvala who is on staff at Hospital Angeles has performed more than 250 plications beginning in December 2009 and based on that experience is considered by far to be the most experienced surgeon in the world regarding plication. Not sure where the 300 comes from but I assure you - it's not correct, there is a typo there. Lopez Corvala invited by the Cleveland Clinic's head of bariatrics to present a special session on his plication findings at the recent IFSO meeting. After Dr. Lopez Corvala, the most experienced surgeon for plication is in Brazil. -
Question for those who had lower start BMI/under 100 pounds to loose
bellaaa_vita replied to Bluesea71's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I have a silly question...those of you with no weight related conditions and a low bmi...how the heck did you get approved for coverage for the surgery?!! It was such a bitch (excuse my French) for me to get covered..first bariatric group I went with got me denied..and then 2 months later I went to an extremely reputable bariatric group in my area and they got me approved..I mean every insurance company is different but some of you have seriously low starting weights..I think my insurance company would have laughed in my face if I was 5'5 and 200 lbs asking to covered for wls lol (starting weight before my surgery back in march was 256 and I'm 5'5) -
How long does the process take?
keto_jo replied to kathileelyo's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Tl;dr: just under 2 full months. I had my consult with the bariatric doctor on June 16th. I got my approval date from insurance on July 18th or 19th. Surgery date is set for August 9th. I had to do seminars, classes, a sleep study, lab work and see a psychologist. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App -
That is a question for your nutritionist/bariatric team. BUT: I would think ----NO Crackers are just too tempting with too many carbs with very little benefit. I am five years out and still treat crackers --especially Cheetos!---like the plague! Really though, give your team a call. They will be able to guide you on your specific plan.
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Good morning everyone!!! Glad your ride was good J!! I am also glad you got your pedals figures out....since I am the queen of falling over with mine!!! We went out yesterday to the mountains to see if the mud was dried up enough to ride some new trails and ended up doing quite a good hike. I was running the trails in some parts. I just love the renewed energy and life that I have now....I was thinking that a little over a year ago, I would of missed all of the beautiful scenery and lovely green grasses and trees and sat in the car while hubby and DD went out to look at the trail....but then again, we prolly would not of been looking at a mountain biking trail either. Maybe we would of been at the store buying big bags of candy!!!! I go tomorrow to get some more fill put back in. She told me she would put in another 2 so I will be back at 7cc. I think I will stay there through the summer. I want to be able to eat good food while strenously exercising. Hope you all had a great three dayer!!
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Hello everyone! I went to my surgeons checkup appointment today and I was given paper work for a company called Nascobal They are a bariatric pharmaceutical company that ships monthly vitamins to your home you get : vitamin b-12 nasal spray prescription strength, Multivitamin, Iron+ Vitamin C, and Calcium+ D3 with Magnesium. They will bill my insurance and I pay a co-pay of 20 dollars a month. I'm just wondering if anyone else has used this service, or knows anything about these specific bariatric vitamins? I know they are all chewable. My surgeon thinks it's a great program to get the right vitamins that He feels I need to have and of course you can't beat 20 bucks a month for all of it. Thank you in advance! I hope everyone is doing well
