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How Are You Getting Prepared?
charpower replied to charpower's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Oh and I’m already attending my bariatric support groups meetings. -
How Are You Getting Prepared?
charpower replied to charpower's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
My bariatric program has me scheduled for my nutrition class the first week of January so I’ll be prepared and they already gave me a big binder that goes through each and every phase of the eating but I am wondering what people are doing so get their fridges ready , cupboards ready that type of thing What kind of items they’re purchasing what kind of tips they have. Four instance… I’m going to make some bone broth and put it in ice cube tray’s and then put them in Ziploc bags and store them in the freezer and then take out a couple at a time to eat postop. -
Got a date... Chickened out!
atlseeker replied to JeezLouise91's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
So I also thought “but what if I could do it myself”; I had before, but I couldn’t keep it off. Our bodies are very very good at maintaining weight. I got the sleeve because after years of research, I’m convinced that it’s virtually impossible to buck millions of years of evolution with willpower. There’s a great podcast called the Weight Loss Surgery Podcast. Before you make a decision, consider listening to the episodes with Randy Seeley, a researcher who studies appetite and hormonal systems, and the ones with Walter Medlin, a bariatric surgeon who ended up getting the surgery himself. Episode 69 deals specifically with the fears people have about WLS. You may still decide to back out—I almost did—but it’s great information to have! -
How Are You Getting Prepared?
James Marusek replied to charpower's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Generally as you get closer, the surgeon's office should offer a class that provides detailed directions for the surgery and post-op. I would also recommend finding the nearest Bariatric Surgery Support Group meeting to your local and begin attending these. They should be free. -
I also believe that if you have a crappy relationship pre op, you'll have a crappier relationship post op as the bariatric patient becomes happier and more secure with themselves, hence the divorce rate post op. Stronger relationships are able to adapt and work though the inevitable changes.
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LOL I'm with you on the Trump thing! Respectfully, I don't believe the partner has to be in the same place mentally as the person having the surgery does as far as diet and exercise. Like I said, it's OUR journey, not theirs. I don't expect the entire world to change for me just because I've chosen to change my lifestyle. Lord knows we aren't living in a very bariatric friendly world, that's for sure! He doesn't formally exercise, I do, and have continually for almost 4 years. It hasn't hindered me in the least. He still eats his processed crap, I make up for that by cooking healthy meals minus the starch with just protein and veggies ;). I understand that having someone doing it along with us is ideal in a perfect world, but let's be real. The world isn't perfect and the only thing we CAN control is us. This can be completely doable without your partner doing it along with you. I and many others are living proof of that. It's all about how bad we really want it.
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@BarbieVSG14 I agree with everything in your post!! BUT, the reality is that bariatric surgery is correlated with divorce, and, sadly, it may be worse for people who are not married. I'm 27 years married, and am blessed with a guy who loves my "diets" because he always loses weight. And he's ready to stop drinking alcohol, so that helps, too. I can only assume its awful for couples when they arent in the same place mentally. It would be like be married to someone who voted for Trump! <<haha
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Have you checked out their Bariatric formula? No artificial colors or fillers of any type. Less likely to mess up your stomach.
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Have you checked out their Bariatric formula? No artificial colors or fillers of any type. Less likely to mess up your stomach.
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Introducing Myself As Chronic Pain Pre-Op Sleever
Taylor5 posted a topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Happy Saturday! So I have been on BP for a few months now, have posted a few times, but am mostly just soaking in the wisdom, lol. This is my 1st time posting in the "special needs" forum, but I am grateful there is such a thing because I totally fit this category. I am pre-op, scheduled for VSG on 12/27/17. Going to MX due to my Ins not covering bariatrics. I am 45, feel like I'm 65, but in my head am still about 22, if that makes sense? I've had Fibromyalgia(FM) for 20 yrs, Migraines (now controlled) for 30, DDD, Herniated discs in my neck & lumbar spine which cause a lot of pain in my left shoulder/arm/hand & both hips, legs, feet, etc. Have had 3 back surgeries & been the victim of 3 car accidents w/in the past 10 yrs, started having "saddle pain" in 2013 which now presents as pudendal neuralgia on left side thigh/pelvic area. Basically, pain all the time in one area or the other plus all the other happy gifts that come w/having FM ! One of which is depression that is exacerbated by daily pain & being 90 lbs. overweight. Anyway, if any fellow sleevers (or other surgeries too) have feedback on how surgery has affected their pain issues & vice/versa, love to hear from you. Also happy to answer questions anyone might have regarding my journey so far & as I progress. P.S. If you have had spinal fusion surgery, which is likely in my future at some point, PLEASE reach out if you can. I am desperate for good/bad fusion outcomes from real live people.- 8 replies
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I'm nine weeks post op and I decided that I'm ready to get into the gym. So, I go into the gym yesterday to find that my membership had lapsed. The young lady behind the counter renewed it with no problem and off I was to the treadmill. I used to do 30 minutes at 2.5 MPH with a 6 incline. I never ran just walked. Well, I started out with 45 minutes at 4MPH and I incorporated jogging into my routine. I couldn't jog with the extra weight but now, my breathing is better and my legs don't hurt. After the treadmill I started slowly on different weight machines so I can eventually build up my muscle mass. In the past after the treadmill I had no energy to even look at the weight area of the gym. I'm hoping to expand on the golden ticket I was given by eating right and finally incorporating a steady routine of exercise. If anyone has any workout tips for a senior please feel free in commenting.
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[emoji848] BariatricPal Team MX
MontanaGuy replied to MJP820's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Undoubtedly there is a "better forum thread" for my question, but I am not finding it. Doubt that the question deserves to be a new thread. What has the community heard about Bariatricpal Team-MX's package of 1 night in the hotel? During my research this summer, the package of 2 nights in the hospital and 2 more nights at the recovery center/hotel was a comforting thought. I expect to travel alone, don't have a follow-up surgeon, and thought the 2nd night seemed like a prudent choice over other a Tijuana bariatric surgeons, who were offering shorter recovery periods. When I booked with Bill Yanez, I heard the package was now just one night in the hotel. Bill offered to book me a 2nd night at the hotel for an up-charge, but didn't offer an explanation for the change. When I came back to the forum I found a post stating that the package had changed from 2 nights to 1 night, but the point of her post was that she was happy with the surgeon, and wasn't commenting on the length change. Bill Yanez didn't answer a followup email asking about the change, and I believe that he has been occupied for the last month with his own VSG. Found two websites for Dr. Illan, both copyrighted for 2017, and one flat-out recommends 2 nights in the hotel unless coordinated with the follow-up surgeon. Sent an email to Dr. Illan's website... so far nothing but crickets. {I know he has a Facebook presence, but I don't Facebook} I am on the schedule with Dr. Illan; comfortable with his reputation; aware that Bariatric Pal Team-MX is his only coordination service... so am not looking to rock the boat. Just curious as to what led the team to decrease the stay? Thought maybe somebody else had already gotten an explanation and would share. Maybe it was great news! Patients were bored stiff after a 3rd night, nobody needed anymore recovery time, and 99% of the feedback was "get us out of here." -
@vanwest83 Did you get the hospital worked out? How did it go? @TheNewMrsR and @sunshinetinks Saying prayers you feel better today ladies! I tried the PremProt Fruit Punch and to me it tasted so close to the old full throttle Hawaiian Punch with very little aftertaste. My nut said they make great popsicles. I picked some up at Sam's yesterday and will try making 3oz popsicles. They can replace the sipping on fluids temporarily! @Luisajfc How's your cold this morning? Are the fam hanging in there? Any word from insurance? I found a bunch of YouTube vids about cooking pureed foods and cooking after bariatrics, but a lot annoyed me cuz they look like they are eating WAY too much food. I want to be sure to try to stick to the volume guidelines given to me by the RD so I don't stretch my pouch. Dr. Duc Vuong says the way to stretch your pouch is by eating just 1 bite too many over the course of a year or two. Crap! I don't want that to be me!
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Labs done outside of your surgeon?
apu replied to NJ2004BPD/DS's topic in Duodenal Switch Surgery Forum
I suspect its more of an insurance thing, That list of labs is probably close to $1200-2000. That said I am a busy and experienced PCP with a relatively large practice and yet only look after a handful of bariatric patients. Honestly I have yet to order any nutritional labs for them. Usually bariatric surgery follows them. I have no problem requesting bariatric labs but since I rarely do this I would likely seek guidance specific to the needs of duodenal switch or bypass patient. If there is a transfer of specialty care its usually helpful for some correspondence from that specialty to your PCP. -
It is usually recommended to abstain for the first 6 months to a year. There are several reasons. 1. Your liver is likely not the healthiest yet since obese people tend to have fatty livers. Then, as we are losing weight quickly, the liver has a bigger job to do as well. When we drink, our blood alcohol levels get quite a bit higher than non-bariatric folk after drinking the same amount. Higher blood alcohol levels means more work for the already-taxed liver. 2. Addiction transfer is a real thing. People with food addictions need to be extra cautious about this one. Those of us with addictive personalities would do best to not ever start drinking postop. 3. Since we can't eat much, it's hard to not drink on an empty stomach. Which means more drunk faster, and possibility of passing out, injury, and accident goes up. Also hypoglycemia. 4. Alcohol may irritate the stomach, and in Bypass patients it has been shown to cause ulcers. 5. Most of the alcohol-related posts made here are people asking about drinking, followed up by people having had a problem after drinking. One or two passed out cold (after a single serving), several have addiction transfers, me personally.. I had a single glass of wine after 6 months, and almost couldn't walk. (I hadn't done the research at that point to know to stop after 1/2 the glass.. oops.) If you still decide to indulge, drink only half a drink after a good meal, and have a designated driver.
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How many people have GERD and get a sleeve anyway?
Berry78 replied to Mhy12784's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I came across an interesting study. Basically, people with the sleeve end up with GERD mostly because of unrepaired hiatal hernias. People without bariatric surgery get GERD because of ... guess what? .... hiatal hernias. Anyone with GERD should be carefully evaluated for a hiatal hernia. (According to that study, it looked like only 5% of GERD was NOT due to HHs.) There is a complication of the sleeve.. where basically the sleeve gets pulled a bit up through the diaphragm (maybe because of vomiting). This is essentially the same thing as a hiatal hernia, and may explain some of the correlation. In this case, a bypass could fix it, since the intestine kinda "pulls" on the pouch, keeping it below the diaphragm. -
Labs done outside of your surgeon?
RickM replied to NJ2004BPD/DS's topic in Duodenal Switch Surgery Forum
Perhaps your PCP doesn't know what labs are appropriate, as DS labs will differ some from RNY or VSG labs? Or is he constrained by being in an insurance network (such as Kaiser or other ***) that needs to approve his work? These are the labs that my wife gets done every year from our PCP (she is a 2005 DS) - http://www.paclap.com/downloads/annualdslaborders.pdf We have had no problem getting these done with our PCP, or getting insurance coverage for them. While it is helpful to have a bariatric surgeon's insight as to what levels are appropriate with your DS, what variances from "normal" levels are acceptable or desirable, they aren't essential. Good luck on working this out.... By chance, are you a Dr. Baltasar patient? He was high on our list before deciding to self pay semi-locally. -
How many people have GERD and get a sleeve anyway?
Mhy12784 posted a topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
While theres a general consensus that the Bypass is a good choice for people who have GERD and the Sleeve not so much. Does having GERD mean a sleeve is doomed to fail ? The data ive seen is incredibly murky and wildy varies (some suggest that 80% of people's GERD wont get worse with a sleeve, others pretty much that everybodys will) Almost 50% of bariatric patients have GERD so obviously a ton of people with it that end up getting a sleeve. Whats the outlook on here ? How many people have had success having a sleeve while having GERD ? -
Labs done outside of your surgeon?
shedo82773 replied to NJ2004BPD/DS's topic in Duodenal Switch Surgery Forum
That is so strange. I have never had any trouble having my PCP order tests. They even fax my results to my Bariatric Center. I know that people always say that DR.'s don't or won't take on another Dr's patients. I guess we live in an awesome area because I fired my Surgeon and went thru another Bariatric center. In fact, my hubby had a failed revision from Lap-Band to RNY and our PCP ask a fellow Dr to do the surgery to put in his Wound Vac. Great DR too. How much trouble can it be? Just check the darn box!! LOL -
Thanks for the good wishes. Have your surgeries all been Bariatric in nature?
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Dr Apel at Blossom Bariatrics. I was self pay also but it was cheaper if i had a hiatal hernia. Then it was billed to my insurance as a hiatal hernia surgery and I only paid for the sleeve part. Since Blossom owns the surgery center, Warm Springs, this is not fraudulent to your insurance. Blossom will let you know exactly how much you owe pre-op and that is exactly what I paid. When you get Blossoms paperwork they also offer a “hardship” discount based on income. I know there was a discount for income up to $250,000 income. It’s worth checking into. I believe it was a 50% discount for taxable income up to $95,000. Hope this helps. My care was unbelievable. And being only 8 days out I feel fabulous! Let me know if i can help anymore.
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Hi all, First post time. For background, I have an initial consult on Jan. 3 because the coverage for weight loss services doesn't kick in until the new year, so that will be considered my official kickoff. I had an unofficial consult with the same doctor a month ago as a favor to my PCP, knowing I had no bariatric coverage at the time, so I've already had the recommendation for the gastric sleeve. Given the three month supervised diet requirement, that would put me into at April at best, and considering I want to be available for my daughter's college graduation at the end of April, I figure I won't be having any surgery until mid-May at best. But here's my real issue: I can't exercise. Physically, I'm a wreck, head to toe, and I mean that literally. I've got a bad neck, arthritis (frozen shoulder) in both shoulders, bad lower back, one bad knee plus every problem imaginable with my feet short of athlete's foot, including bone spurs, previously broken bones and plantar fasciitis. So I'm not kidding when I say any attempt at extended physical exertion usually ends in severe pain or injury. I can walk for maybe 15 minutes at a time, far less than the recommended 30-45 I've seen discussed. Sit-ups and weights are off-limits. I used to be able to use an elliptical to some success but that just getting harder and harder. So, the question is, just how much will my lack of ability to exercise affect my weight loss? I'd like to hope that exercise will become easier when I don't have to lug as much weight around, but right now, and until I drop a good chunk of weight, it's pretty much out of the question. (And since I'm new here, if this is not the appropriate forum for questions at this stage, please direct me to the proper one.) Thanks!
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Today I meet with my bariatric surgeon for my pre-surgical visit. My surgery is one week from today. Today I got up and at a super low carb breakfast of eggs and bacon and milk. Weird for me not to have my coffee laden with sugar and cream. But the hearty breakfast took my mind off of it. I didn't even remember the coffee until just now. I'm about to shower and head over to the surgeon's office. I have so many questions, and I hope he's patient with my answers. I got my last doctor's visit in yesterday - my primary care physician's surgical release, as well as a flu shot and one blood test that I had missing. Now I'm all set to go! I'm getting excited!
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Labs done outside of your surgeon?
DropWt4Life replied to NJ2004BPD/DS's topic in Duodenal Switch Surgery Forum
That is weird, because my PCP just ordered a total blood workup for me including testing for Vitamin levels and kidney and pancreas function. My guess is that your insurance may not cover it unless the tests are ordered from a specialist. Either way, your insurance should cover the testing if they are going to foot the bill for annual iron injections as they aren't needed if your levels are fine. Then again, the iron injections might be more cost effective than the testing. Who knows? Many bariatric surgeons won't want to deal with the maintenance of other surgeons' patients, but you should probably ask your PCP to refer you to someone that can get the necessary testing approved. Good luck. I know it sucks. it appears that insurance isn't what it used to be. You are asked to make monthly payments equal to a luxury car payment, but have to fight to get covered with what you need to improve or maintain your health. Sad really. -
BEST PRODUCTS/ RECIPES LIST
dreamingsmall replied to Sherry Rice's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Its hard getting a list together because when you have had the surgery some things on the list you may not tolerate, also bariatric items not all people have a low carb plan and we all have different plans I am very simple and dont really have bariatric items, i just eat simple things of meats/egg/spinnach/tomatoes/string cheese etc so my list is not so fun.
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