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Things have been going pretty smoothly since bypass surgery June 6. The stages from the surgeon and nutritionalist seem fairly accelerated (compared to others I've looked up in the Internet). I would have a bowl of cream of wheat (3/4 cup of water) or a single egg omelet (adding some cooked mushrooms or shredded smoked salmon). All fine. The canned vegetables are pretty insipid but I don't feel like I'm ready for "raw" veggies and overcooked veggies (steamed) are kinda like the canned stuff- To celebrate my passage into regular food, I took a smoked turkey leg, reheated it, then stripped all skin and tendons off, leaving me with 1/2-3/4 cup of shredded meat. It was too much! I discovered what you folks call the "foamies"-- horrible. If I could have just puked and emptied my stomach, I would have been happy, but oh, no, all that came up was that dreaded froth. I was in major discomfort for hours and wound up falling asleep sitting up. Next day, I decided to go back to basics- just protein drink, Gatorade Zero, a little hummus and 1/2 my usual portion of cream of wheat. I'm now setting up a call with the nutritionist- interestingly, his plan disclaims any recommended portion size. And when I've looked at the internet, every plan is different, with different ranges of portions. I feel much better having gotten through that experience of foamies- whether it was the density of the meat, the quantity, or the smoked flavor, I have no idea but I'm gonna stay away from smoked meats, at least for now. Because I had a hiatal hernia repair, any sort of heavy lifting, sit-ups, etc. are taboo. I am walking (ironically, the mega grocery stores provide me with a venue for that since here in Texas, it's been over 100 degrees F until a couple days ago. Typical Texas summer). So, two questions: 1.portion size- we'll see what the nutritionist says; and 2.did most of you hit overload at some point on your journey? I have been losing weight. I definitely look and feel better, easier to walk without getting winded, etc. My best to all, Deep6
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I thought I went from sleeve to bypass.....
The Greater Fool replied to SleeveToBypass2023's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
The result of a Sleeve to GB is different than the result of only the GB (RNY). With the RNY the stomach is sectioned into the 'pouch' and the 'blind stomach.' The 'pouch' is similar to the sleeve, but it is created from a different part of the stomach. The pouch bypasses the Pyloric valve and is attached to the intestine a ways down from the pyloric valve. The sectioned off part of the stomach is still there, still using the pyloric valve, and still processes the gunk (bile) from the Gall Bladder. The Sleeve, as noted, is made from a different part of the stomach forming the sleeve, which is similar in function to the pouch. The sleeve ends at the Pyloric valve, nothing is bypassed. I'm not sure where the bile from the Gaul bladder goes. The sectioned off stomach is removed. So one can see that after a sleeve you just don't have the stomach anymore to do what it does after the RNY. The pouch is still different, though it may be a difference without a difference. It seems like the conversion is just taking out the pyloric valve and whatever portion of the intestines to be bypassed, if indeed any intestines are bypassed at all. So while the Sleeve to GB is similar to an RNY, it is not an RNY. You can also see why this would help GERD, since the Pyloric valve is no longer there to allow stomach acids to back-up. Since the ultimate results of Sleeve to GB and straight up RNY are different it gets a different name, even though it may be functionally the same. Tomato / Tomato. Good luck, Tek -
Bariatric surgery - long term
MarisAthena replied to vpsdub's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I am 58 years old and I have Afib, I also had rheumatic fever when I was a teenager and I have some valve issues. I am a diabetic ( or was ), and wear a CPAP. I had my surgery on 6/5/23. Within a day from the surgery I stopped taking the diabetes medication (after 15 years). I keep checking my blood sugar, and everything is perfect. I have no idea why and how this happened. My CPAP pressure decreased, they told me at the hospital that eventually I will no longer need the CPAP machine. I had no Afib episodes since the surgery. The gastric bypass requires a lifelong commitment of multivitamins, minerals and nutrients due to malabsorption. I tried about 8 separate diets prior to committing to this surgery and I always gained back the weight. The education I received prior to the gastric bypass at Mayo Clinic explained why we always gain the weight back when dieting. I have no issues with the microbiome, I take pre and probiotics daily. I think that this surgery is the best decision of my life and the best thing I could have done for my heart. I knew that this will be so when a doctor told me the same thing years ago, that he got the gastric bypass and it was the best thing he did for himself in his entire life. It is a tough decision and a life commitment but the benefits exceed the struggles. I was like you, I doubted my decision until the morning of the surgery. I am really happy that I went through with it! -
I just had my RNY gastric bypass on June 29th. Most days I have felt great. Today, at 5 days, I have been experiencing severe pain in my left shoulder. I was told these pains were from the gasses put in my body for the surgery. I was planning to stay off the scale for the most part. However, I weighed myself today. I haven't lost anything! I have followed the full fluid plan that I was given. It scares me to see no huge loss!
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Questions about pregnancy after bypass
learn2cook replied to Summermoose's topic in Pregnancy with Weight Loss Surgery
I was post menopausal for my bypass. Two of my friends had sleeves with the purpose of having good health and getting pregnant. They both had had issues with PICOS and “advanced age” , over 35. One got pregnant through IVF and had a healthy girl who was born deaf, but has warmly knitted our community closer by making us all learn sign language. The mother regained her weight, BUT the dad had bypass recently and is quickly regaining his health. This family also celebrated HIGHLY the adoption of a daughter prior to the birth. Isn’t that how it always happens? I’m going to say, build your family the way it happens and don’t worry about it. I knew a single guy who worried about never having kids of his own, and his sister and brother-in-law died from a freak plane accident leaving him with two nephews to raise!!! The second mother successfully had her baby girl (she may be younger but I’m not going to ask) the “normal “ way. She did regain after the 3 yr mark, but quickly got back to track using hot yoga and a new business she started. Everybody retained their good health. Isn’t this about health and creating family? It’s going to happen one way or another, watch and see, worrying won’t make it better. GBY -
I thought I went from sleeve to bypass.....
DaisyAndSunshine replied to SleeveToBypass2023's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
RNY is a type of gastrojejunostomy. In RNY your duodenum is bypassed and stomach gets connected to jejunum. So medical terminology of what you stated is a bypass as far as I can tell! In terms of how much is bypassed is determined by the surgeon and his or her expertise! -
My doctor is recommended I have a bypass revision done (currently 5 years put on my sleeve) as I have severe GERD and weight gain. For those that have had this done….. which bypass did they do? Full ? Mini? Or? and did it help? Thanks in advance.
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I thought I went from sleeve to bypass.....
SleeveToBypass2023 posted a topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
So I'm looking at my medical records online and I see that I had a "gastrojejunostomy and resection of the distal part of stomach for gastric polyposis and refractory gastroesophageal reflux disease". I was like HUH?? Now I'm confused. I went online to look up the differences between this and the bypass, and some sites say they are basically the same, some say they are different because a different area is bypassed with the gastrojejunostomy, some say the gastrojejunostomy is part of the bypass, and I have no clue what to think. At no time did my surgeon ever mention anything other than bypass. No other words, procedures, names of procedures, etc. Just a bypass and removing my lower stomach. So now...what the actual heck???? -
honestly, weight loss is really more about the person vs the type of surgery. you as an individual will likely lose the same amount of weight no matter which wls you choose. do the best that you can and you will get where your effort will take you ❤️ for what it's worth, i had the sleeve and lost everything that i wanted to. and i believe i would've got to the same place eventually if i had bypass or ds or whatever**. **Edited to add: except maybe the lapband... P.S. hope all goes well with you from here in out ❤️
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like Arabesque said, the DS used to be done in two phases - first they'd do a sleeve, then they'd go back in later and bypass the small intestine. So as long as things work out with your pancreas, they can always go back in and do phase 2. meanwhile, it's a good thing they found the problem so they can deal with it now before it gets worse (that is, if it would have gotten worse).
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Pals, Thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge and wisdom. You have given me so much to think about that I have decided to cancel my consult scheduled next week. Very true that the experience my sister endured has a major influence on my hesitancy. You've also shared information I did not know about, such as the bypass may be reversible and the Reshape vest that may be an option down the road. I've also read posts where people with Bands had complications and suffered for weeks and months before their issues were addressed. Thanks for sharing and helping me realize I need to hit the pause button! Happy Independence Day!
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Questions about pregnancy after bypass
Summermoose posted a topic in Pregnancy with Weight Loss Surgery
I was wondering if any of you would be able to share some information with me regarding getting pregnant/pregnancy after a bypass (mgb or regular). I am so mentally ready to have a baby but all the unknowns are stressing me out! 1. Did you have to get cleared by your surgeon to start trying and if so, what did they check? 2. Did you work with a dietician to get the right nutrients/calories for yourself & your baby or did you figure it out yourself? 3. How much weight did you gain and did you lose it after? 4. Did you get followed up as a high risk pregnancy because of your bypass? 5. Did you have a caesarean because of your bypass? 6. Did you have complications related to your bypass? 7. Were there any effects on your baby related to your bypass? Thanks already for answering any questions, I appreciate it so much 😊 -
Medical cannabis after surgery.
BabySpoons replied to Vicsleeve's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I opted for Gastric Bypass surgery, knowing it's not recommended to "consume tobacco" ever again. But cannabis is not tobacco, And vaping is not smoking. 3 months post-op I vape 0mg nicotine and I also have a CBD/THC vape pen for when I experience any pain or nausea. It's medicinal. No one can convince me otherwise. This podcast addresses OP questions. -
Hello good people! Today July 3rd, 2023 I had my surgery. I’m a little disappointed. I am glad I had the surgery, but due to my pancreas was positioned wrong. The Duo Switch was turned into a Sleeves. I am now wondering was it worth it after all. My surgeon told my partner that they going to have to CAT scan on my stomach/pancreas to ensure it’s not a cancer issue. I am bombed to find out I’m in this much pain and did not get what I thought would be done. Also, for me to know that my weight loss may not be as successful as I put my mind. The surgeon may have to go back in later and work around my issue to complete the Duo Switch.😭😭 I read so many article where people had the sleeve and then had the bypass done. I just want to be healthy and happy without GERD, now I do not know what to expect. I did a lot of my research for the Duo-Switch. Anybody had total research with the sleeve ONLY? 😔
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Lap Band: Am I Crazy to Consider It?
SleeveToBypass2023 replied to Rjc0704's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
If you won't consider GS or DS, why not bypass? I got the sleeve and had A LOT of complications. I just got a revision from sleeve to bypass on June 28th, so there ARE things that can be done for the sleeve if there's an issue. Why is the bypass off the table? -
Will I ever enjoy food again?
Flamingowatcher2023 replied to Heatherhei's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
I was the same way and, to some extent, still am. My bypass surgery was 5/24. I lived on Oikos greek yogurt for about 5 or 6 weeks because other foods, no matter how pureed (YUCK!!!) or how gently cooked, would get stuck right in the middle of my chest. I would generally do a lot of pacing and deep breathing until the pain and the danger of throwing up had passed. My doctor said it was perfectly normal and would get better with a little time. As usual, he was correct. I still can't eat most meat, though some have started going down without pain. It gets a little better each day. I rarely ever ate because I enjoyed food but more because of stress, boredom and habit. Foods I used to enjoy, like pizza, don't do it for me any more. I don't even particularly like french fries now. Never thought that would happen. I do still miss my sliced apples. I will continue to try them occassionally. Just give it time. As you heal, you will be able to enjoy a broader range of food. -
Sleeve to Bypass due to REGAIN
SaraKayaComsin replied to TheRevisionedVagabond's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I just rejoined! I’m in the process now for sleeve to bypass primarily due to regain, but also to be able to get off acid reducers. -
How to locate a surgeon who does DS
Starr2015 replied to midniteblue102's topic in Duodenal Switch Surgery Forum
I am in NYC and Dr. Cheema from NYU Langone Brooklyn does the SADI. You may want to ask about the SADI-S rather than the DS. The DS is old and complex. The current form of it, post-sleeve, is the SADI (Single anastomosis duodeno–ileal bypass with sleeve gastrectomy) and you may get a better response in Seattle asking that. -
Duodenal without redoing the sleeve?
Starr2015 replied to BrooklynMomma's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Hi! I had the sleeve at NYU with Dr. Shweck in Aug 2018. I got my gallbladder removed May 2019. As I did regain 80 lbs, I consulted again (as recommended by my vascular doctor). I went to NYU Brooklyn and spoke to Dr. Cheema and he recommended the SADI over Gastric Bypass because I am a smoker and there can be a high rate of ulcers. I am scheduled for 07/26/23 and I am very high risk so being admitted day before. Dr. Cheema and the endoscopy both showed my sleeve was perfect still and there was absolutely no need to redo it. The restriction is still there, just now we are adding the malabsorption which is typically stage 2 anyways. As per Dr. Cheema, the SADI is a safer and newer version of the DS with slightly less intestine bypassed and it connects the sleeve directly. With the DS, there are 2 cuts for connections created to bypass. With the sleeve done already, it is much less of a risk and still goes straight to malabsorption. You will need high A D E K vitamins plus iron and calcium and B12. You will experience different symptoms then just the sleeve such as increased dumping likely for sugar and fat. You will still be restricted to eat small meals and you will still need a ton of protein. Until I get mine, that is the best I can tell you. Look up different articles on DS and SADI and ask your doctor specifically which procedure is being done and what are the cons. Good luck! -
Nutcracker Esophagus/spasms
Dogmom68 replied to Mekeld's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I would avoid gastric sleeve simply because post operative GERD is very common afterward. I had never had any type of reflux until after my sleeve. I eventually had a revision from sleeve to bypass and it helped. I wanted to ask you about esophageal spasms and nutcracker esophagus. I’m in the process of having a diagnosis determined for the pain I have when I eat anything with any kind of texture or “substance” to it. This has been going on for about 9 months (following my sleeve to bypass revision.) I also have esophageal spasms that hurt so bad I feel like I’m going to pass out. Does any of this sound familiar to you and how long did it take for you to be diagnosed? Are you taking any medications that help? Any information you can share would be greatly appreciated!!! -
Had my revision from sleeve to bypass on the 28th...
Yendib replied to SleeveToBypass2023's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Hey we are surgery buddies. I did my revision from sleeve to bypass on the 28th after regaining all the weight plus a little bonus. Hoping for a better this time around. All the best! -
Lap Band: Am I Crazy to Consider It?
Arabesque replied to Rjc0704's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
So sorry for the loss of your sister & I understand why this would be influencing your considering lap band. There are reasons why so few surgeons do lap bands anymore even with the supposed advances. All surgeries have risks & potential for post surgical complications. Weight loss surgery risks & complications though are quite low in comparison to many other commonly done surgeries.(I remember reading the appendectomies stats are higher.) Ask your surgeon for the stats & experiences with their patients across all weight loss surgeries. . Bypass might be an option as @Jeanniebug said it is possible to reverse. Like sleeve, the average weight loss with bypass is about 65% of the weight you have to lose. It’s only 50% with lap band. (Remember averages only give you an idea. Some lose more while others less as many factors influence your loss.) But you have to do what is most right for you. All the best whatever you decide. -
Lap Band: Am I Crazy to Consider It?
Jeanniebug replied to Rjc0704's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
I'm sorry to hear about your sister. I had a bypass, so I still have all my parts. Technically, it's reversible, if something goes wrong. I don't know much about the latest advances in lap band technology. But, if you and your doctor think it's a good option for you, then I'd say go for it. You can always have it removed, if it doesn't work. -
Is V8 Ok
SleeveToBypass2023 replied to Almont MI sleever's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I know this is an old thread, but I wanted to resurrect it because I just had my revision from sleeve to bypass 4 days ago and I'm drinking regular low sodium v8 (not the fusion) and it's been totally fine. Tastes great and it's a super good way to get in veggies when you're not allowed to have them yet. I noticed the consistency of it didn't bother me at all. Just wanted to put this out there, in case anyone else was wondering. -
Had my revision from sleeve to bypass on the 28th...
Hope4NewMe replied to SleeveToBypass2023's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
I had something similar after my bypass from having the iv in for 3 days. It was a very painful solid bump right under the skin where the iv was. It was about an inch long so not huge. I asked my dr and he said it was clot and that it would go away on its own but to use warm compresses on it to help it feel better and heal faster. It took several weeks for it to go away but it did eventually fade. I don't know if that's what you have though so I can't tell you if you should worry about your spot or not. I hope it gets better for you soon!