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hi! i'll be banded 10 months next thursday...i've only gotten stuck a few times and only pb'd once...i've really tried to do my best with eating slowly, and most of the time i do pretty well with it. the reasons you stated are part of it; it's also a fact that your brain doesn't know you're full when your stomach does; that's part of the slow eating principle. it takes your brain somewhere between 10-20 minutes to know your stomach is full. i am a carb binger too (i think it's like alcoholism - something you can't call yourself in the past tense even if you don't do it much anymore). i can still carb binge at times. i went to the beach for a few days in june, and i did a lot of bad carb binging. it's still a real possibility for me, but i really work hard to monitor what i do and really restrict those occurrences. when i was first banded (after i got through liquids, mushies, etc) i would often get tired of eating so slowly. now it's just second nature. i make sure i watch the clock when i'm eating, and no meal/snack/etc takes less than 10 minutes. you get used to it. good luck!
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Dr wants me to stay overweight...
Tiffykins replied to ILKrista's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I was in your exact shoes with my surgeon and his reasoning for making my goal weight 150lbs was because I am considered large frame. I have huge ankle, knee joints, seriously, my husband can not wrap his hand around my ankles, and I am extremely barrel-chested (wide ribcage). So, after much consideration, and really thinking of what I would look like at 150 vs. 125, I was content with 150lbs as my goal weight. I went below my goal weight and at my lowest, 119lb, I was too small. My bones were protruding, you could see the blue veins through the skin on my neck. I purposely gained weight to give me a maintenance weight average of 125-130lbs, and in that range I am perfectly content. Actually, I was perfectly content at 150lbs, I still had boobs, I still had some curviness to my figure. I was wearing a 7/9 and with the drop of 20-25lbs, I was wearing a size 2 jeans, and xtra small tops, so even though I didn't drop major pounds, I lost lots of inches, and sizes. I got there in a healthy manner. I didn't starve myself, or not eat certain foods. Once I hit the 150 mark, I did start adding in more calories and carbs per his instructions, and it took another 4 months to lose those 20-25lbs so I was doing my damnedest to not lose anymore weight. I also had zero issues maintaining between 125-130lbs. I personally didn't mind the bounce on the scale considering my choices in eating in moderation, and not restricting certain foods. It's just how I want to live my life post-VSG. So, I accept the bounce on the scale, if the scale bounces up to 131-132, I'm cutting the alcohol and white carbs for a few days, but I'm not really dieting, just being more mindful of what I'm eating and drinking. -
Depressed 2 months post op
SKCUNNINGHAM replied to livinglifelikeitsgolden's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
I agree with all the others that are telling you to stop drinking alcohol. Calories aside, alcohol is a system depressent (just like a pharmaceutical depressant)- and is probably the cause of your depression, or at least, makes it much worse. Also, your system is reacting to alcohol differently than prior to your sleeve surgery. For me - I tried alcohol twice since my surgery - as an experiment to see what happens. I got a buzz on <1/2 c of beer, and a buzz on 2 tablespoons of fine tequila (sipped, not done as a shot). Beleve me, prior to my surgery, I could at least have a couple of drinks (beer or spirits) before I got to the same point of feeling a buzz. So whatever alcohol did for/to you before the sleeve - it is doing it MAGNIFIED after the sleeve. If you are having trouble staying away from the alcohol - get it out of the house until you get things back under control. Good luck! -
Depressed 2 months post op
SuperMom replied to livinglifelikeitsgolden's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
Hey...we were almost done at the same time ! I have had some stalls too! I noticed when I was not eating ENOUGH I stalled.....how many calories are you eating? I had cut out carbs all the way and apparently my body did not like it. I did not do it on purpose....I was just full when I had finished the protein and was not getting them in. Also...I noticed when I did not take calcium I loose slower???? Weird. I also switched acid pills (not on purpose) and that broke a couple days of stall. When I drink more water that helps also. Just some ideas! Lay off the alcohol. Your poor body is not healed enough for a hangover yet....lolol....too hard on your liver too which is already working overtime to process all that protein. Try to stay OFF the scale and think positive, happy thoughts and when you feel the urge to drink go do something positive like take a walk and breath deep. Sending you some happy energy! You can DO THIS....take it one hour at a time! -
Depressed 2 months post op
Maraki replied to livinglifelikeitsgolden's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
Hey sweetie, cheer up, change your habits and definitevely kick out the alcohol. It really isn't good for your tiny little stomach. I suggest you keep a food diary and write EVERYTHING on it, even the stuff you shouldn't have had. Try to switch up a few things here and there (things you are permitted to eat), avoid carbs. Are you exercising? Try walking. The endorphins are sure to cheer you up and the weight will start coming off. you can do it. YOU ARE WORTH IT. -
Depressed 2 months post op
sugarmamma7 replied to livinglifelikeitsgolden's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
Hope you get back on the horse sweetie. It is tough, but you can do it. We will all be here to support you. You can do this! Don't give up. It would be said if you went through all of this pain and heartache of having the surgery for nothing. Please don't drink alcohol it will hurt you stomach. We all believe in you! Good luck sweetie!sending hugs your way! -
Conflicting thoughts on VSG
Brian66 replied to 420gal's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I can only speak for myself, but having the VSG one year ago was the best decision I've ever made. To date, I've lost 120 pounds and continue to lose weight (although much more slowly now). I knew from the beginning that the band was not for me and I went for my initial consultation with the surgeon thinking I was going to have the RNY procedure. It was my surgeon who suggested the VNY and I will forever be gratful to him that he did. I don't think I ever really focused on "having 85% of my stomach removed" although I was certainly aware of that fact. I just viewed this as the surgical procedure I needed to have to regain my health. I do notice that some people react strongly when I tell them exactly how much has been removed, but when they see the tremendous progress I have made. To be honest, there are still days when I long to eat some of the things and the volume that I used to, but like a drug addict or an alcoholic, I realize that I was not capable of handling food in a responsible manner. I am just grateful that I found a tool that has made it possible for me to manage my particular addiction. My advice is to do a lot of research and find out as much as you can about the procedure. You can certainly understand it without necessarily dwelling on the details. Good luck to you on your journey. Brian -
Pre-Op in SF Bay Area, CA
RickM replied to bethk12@gmail.com's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I don't think that you can go wrong with either the LapSF guys or PacLap - both have extensive experience in bariatrics. I went with Dr. Rabkin (paclap) mostly because my wife had her DS with them and I've been going to their support meetings for the past eight years, so the comfort and trust levels had already been established. Another thing that you should do is look at their pre/post op procedures as that can vary widely between different practices. I believe that LapSF is one of the groups that has you go thru a more extensive pre and post op liquid diet while Paclap doesn't have any particular preop diet and starts you on mush/puree in the hospital moving to more solid things as tolerated. Both have their reasons for their programs and it's hard to argue with the success of either practice, but it's something to consider (one week of Soups was more than enough for me - haven't had any since) beyond the basic qualifications of the surgeon. It is certainly worth going to support meetings for both and get a feel for how they work and get a feel for which procedure they may recommend for you - they may recommend a different procedure for your circumstance and that should be considered before making a final decision. Also, if you have any hint of liver problems, Dr. Rabkin is the one to see as he is also a liver specialist in his non-bariatric life. On the other hand, if you think that you may have a problem giving up drinking alcohol for the 12-18 months of major weight loss, then the LapSF guys are probably more tolerant of that than Dr. Rabkin, for the same reason. -
Only during the healing, and initial losing stage were certain foods and drinks prohibited. I had a 3 month wait on raw veggies, fruits, and nuts. Alcohol was also a 3 month wait, but my surgeon preferred that we wait until goal to start indulging in alcoholic beverages due to the empty calories. As for after hitting goal, I have zero food or drink restrictions. I have drank soda, which some surgeons say they are forever off the list of drinks, since being around 6 months out. I really do eat and drink anything I want or need. I live a life of moderation at this point, and have since being at goal. It's just works for me.
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Depressed 2 months post op
Anakin Jay replied to livinglifelikeitsgolden's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
The alcohol is probably your problem. Whenever you drink alcohol your body will burn that for energy first before anything else... it's like pure energy. No matter what diet I've ever been on, alcohol always causes a stall. -
Depressed 2 months post op
seelessofme32 replied to livinglifelikeitsgolden's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
I am very sorry to hear about your decrease in weight loss. My surgery is scheduled for July 25th, I am going to repalce 2 meals with Protein drinks and 1 reg meal per day. Maybe you should try this and see if you can start loosing agin. It may have been too soon to add reg meals all together back in. And the ALCOHOL don't waste you calorie intake on this. We can get through this. I know it is hard because we have been having this fight all of our life and now you have a tool to help and it seems helpless. Don't give up. Try something different before giving up. Good luck and Don't give up we have come too far to go back now. -
Depressed 2 months post op
anonynurse replied to livinglifelikeitsgolden's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
I have been stalled since day 14, so I feel ya. But stopping doing the right things guarantees this is not a stall but a permanent stop. So get off the alcohol. Get out your diet guidelines. Get back to eating "clean" and trust in yourself and your body. The suggestion above to see the dietician is a good one. -
Depressed 2 months post op
Nancy Rivers replied to livinglifelikeitsgolden's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
You are not alone! There are several people on here who are "slow losers". It is also normal to enter a stall around week 3 or so. From what I understand, when you start eating normal foods again, it is also normal to enter another stall. Drinking alcohol this early out isn't a good thing - it is just empty calories, plus it could potentially damage your new and healing stomach. My surgeon's office says to not have alcohol for the first 6 months because of this. Have you talked to your surgeon and/or dietician about your stall? You really should. They can help you figure out why your not losing anymore. Make sure you have food logs to show them as they won't be able to be as helpful without those. -
Depressed 2 months post op
livinglifelikeitsgolden posted a topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
I had my surgery on May 16th 2011. I was so excited due to my rapid lost which was like 27 lbs in just a couple weeks. Once i began eating normal foods I watched the scale come to a complete stop. I have been on a stall since my 3rd week. Sometimes i would notice i lost 5lbs but that would slowly creep right back up. I feel so helpless and depressed. I used to come to this site to be encourage but now I feel so alone because everyone is losing the weight and yet I am lagging far behind. Due to this I have notice that I have started drinking alcohol which i think isn't good due to the calories. But I feel like I have really given up or having a very nonchalant attitude about losing weight. I get full quicker but still not losing weight. I just don't understand. I have changed my diet and am eating alot healthier and still on a stall!!! AHHHHHH, i feel like screaming and hiding. Someone help me plzzzzzz........ -
Not wanting to jump to conclusions but you dont give a lot of info. What do you eat? 3 small meals a day no Snacks? or Five even smaller meals? Do you do a good hour's exercise most days? Do you avoid sugar, white flour and bad fats, keep away from alcohol for the most part? Are you sabotaging yourself with hidden calories - sweet, syrupy coffees, soft slider foods?
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Although I have been "trying to lose weight" over the last 2 years (15yrs in total), I think I had really given up on myself. Seeings how in that time frame I've gained 30 pounds. I gave up on my abilities to be a healthy person, because it really is a skill and I do have it, I somehow forgot and tossed in the towel. Deciding to have WLS is my way to stand up for myself, so to speak. My surgery is August 15 and I start my pre-op diet August 1 which is basically a no carb diet (Protein shakes not required). So last week I asked myself, am I going to continue to 'give up' right up untill the pre-op diet is to start?? Or am I going to make changes right now?? I decided that because the pre-op diet and the diet I will be following after surgery are so different from what I was consuming, I better start making the changes now. It means I get an additional two weeks to try and change my mind and my habits. So this is my plan: June 18 – 24 · No drinks with meals (wanted to start this early, because it is such a habit for me to drink something with a meal) · Limit pop (I don't drink much pop, so this shouldn't be to hard) · Protein shake for Breakfast Mon-Fri · No snack before dinner (3 meals, 2 Snacks a day) · Limit carbs June 25 – 31 · No drinks with meals · No pop · Protein shake for breakfast Mon-Fri · No snacks before lunch or dinner (3 meals, 1 snack a day) · Limit carbs and sugar · Smaller portion for lunch August 1 – 14 (Pre-op diet starts) · No drinks with meals · No pop · Protein shake for breakfast everyday · No carbs, fruit, sugar, cheese, alcohol · No snacking (3 meals a day) · Smaller portion for lunch and dinner I thought this plan would get me into the right frame of mind not only before surgery but also before the pre-op diet. Small changes to gain momentum and produce big changes What will you do?? Continue with your current eating habits right up until pre-op diet or start to make changes now??
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How to eat at McDonald's after the sleeve....
pattimomof3nj replied to Coookies's topic in Food and Nutrition
Tiffykins, I had Moe's while on vacation last week for the first time, and I LOVED it. We do not have them here in Jersey! I so wish we did! I got a quesadilla and just ate the insides after i loaded it up with all the fresh free toppings, half for lunch and half for dinner. The kids even loved it! To the OP, at McD's I usually have one or two of the kids nuggets, but i'm not ever hungry so I just let the kids eat, and I'l drink my Water. On vacation last week, we stopped there for lunch before hitting the parks, to save some cash, so I got the yogurt parfait, I ate that minus the fruit. the fruit was mushy. I love the Wendy's half size salads and the chili, that is my go to fast food when I am out and about and need to eat, otherwise, i just have Jerky in the car. I can honestly sat that I lost 3 pounds on vacation eating a bunch of crap foods, pizza 4 times, hot dogs, McD's, Joe's Crab Shack, Moe's, park food and lots of alcohol. I made a promise to my family that I was going to have fun and not worry about what i was eating, and I didn't. the only problem I had was with ice cream that we had for dinner one night (the kids were really good and they picked that), I dumped on it! After that, I decreased my ice cream servings from 2 scoops to 1! much better! Oh, and after all that I am only 1 pound away from GOAL!! -
I'm on board with the bloating/swelling notion, I "gain" exactly 4 pounds every TOM the week prior that goes away the week of. Also salt is a big culprit and summertime foods like barbeque and margaritas are high in sodium. You never mentioned what your exercise regimen is like? I'd say go one week of trying all the stuff we've mentioned here; fat flushing foods, low salt, extra water, exercise change up, and if after a week there is no change in either how you feel or the scale, then see your doctor. As for going on a diet, I am with you, "diets" are cruel and pointless. Of course, I don't consider cutting out flour-based carbs, soda, alcohol, etc. to BE a diet, that to me is just smart healthful living and taking care of my Self.
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I was banded may 19th, so far I have had 2 fills. After the second fill I felt pretty good restriction, and I started eating solids slowly and a little at a time. A few days ago I took a shot of alcohol with my friends (peer pressure?) and experienced my first episode of dry heaving sinced being banded. Nothing came out and I only dry heaved a few minutes. The next day my band was tight, so I stuck to liquids then slowly went back to mushies/solids. Now everything is going down. I can eat a cup or more of food, feel little to no restriction, but i have had 2 stuck episodes but they aren't like the horror stories some people talk about when they are stuck. It only lasts a few seconds then I can eat just fine. I'm worried about slippage and stretching my pouch, but i cant get in to see my surgeon for another month. Any advice? How much are you able to eat usually with your band? Maybe I need to use a measuring cup and only eat what fits in it. I think the normal amount is about 4-6 ounces, right? Thanks in advance for your advice! P.S. Since all of this my weight loss is at a standstill, I partially blame exercise, and partially eating too much. Thoughts?
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First fill tomorrow what should i expect?
Jenn1214 replied to daddyzbumblebee@aol.com's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
Here's how a fill goes for me: Fills in my surgeon's office are done by a surgical PA. She calls me into an exam room, weighs me, then asks me questions about my hunger (portion size, satiety, etc.) and any food restrictions or intolerances (so far I have none). If she determines I need a fill, I lay back on the exam table while she sets up for the fill. She opens everything, then puts on sterile gloves and cleans the port area with some alcohol or betadine. The first fill for me was a little painful just because there was so much fat in front of the port so she had to really push to find it and missed the first time. I've had two or three fills since with no problems, it just feels like getting a vaccination. Then I sit up and drink some water to make sure there are no problems with it going down. After that I get a bandaid and a "See you next month!" -
Sobriety and The Lap Band
54Shirley replied to jennypenny's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
So you have a cross addiction correct? One to Food, and the other to Alcohol. I met a Man at a WL meeting. and he was banded, and was in Tip Top Shape. When we introduced ourselves, he said he lost over 400 LBS with the Band, and the Band saved his LIFE. My mouth hit the floor, I couldn't believe it. Then he said He swap 1 addiction for the other "this can be common." He worked out at the Gym while banded, but his calories were all liquid Calories. Next he tried pain killers for his knees, and the booze and the pills formed a real good relationship. Until he almost died of a over dose. So he belonged to Lap Band Meetings, AA Meetings, and NA Meetings. I will never forget him, because it was the first time I ever heard about swapping out Food, for another addiction, and his addictions were consumed all through the mouth. -
Sobriety and The Lap Band
andrea0121 replied to jennypenny's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Congrats on 9 years! I lost my brother to drug addiction and my boyfriend is a recovering addict/alcoholic with 2 years under his belt. I just wanted to give you mad props!! -
EGD on Thu confirmed a partial slip. Verbal diagnosises before that was profound slip. Profound was based on the angle of the band viewable with xray, and partial on the actual prolapse that was visible internally. I'm still really swollen, but it's getting better. Thu & Fri night my reflux was back. Haven't had it since my unfill, but since swelling basically gives you a reverse fill, it makes sense that it would strike again. Aspirated it again, and dealth with chest pain for an hour afterward. Haven't done solid foods since Wed of last week, they're too uncomfortable. Frozen liquids (e.g. alcohol free margarita, slush from Sonic, etc.) go down OK after a few sips. That seems to control the swelling enough that I'm good for super mushies or other liquids for an hour or so, then I clench back down. I'd take some ibuprofen to help, but there's no way even the liquid would pass. Reflux is gone at least, so it is slowly calming down. It never occured to me that there would be that much irritation during an EGD. I just didn't even think about it. On the plus side, going through this stuff again is really helping me be over it.
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How to eat at McDonald's after the sleeve....
Coookies replied to Coookies's topic in Food and Nutrition
Overall i'm happy with the positive replies on here... the last thing we need is judgmental people who are in denial on here... My viewpoint in life is that totally stopping something 100% that you are addicted to doesn't always work... cuz when you fall of the wagon, you fall hard... I think that moderation is the key to all addictions, whether its food, alcohol, etc.... And thanks to our sleeve we have the key to moderation.... Pair that with good to moderately good food choices and we are set... And like i said, and others have said, it's not the McDonald's chicken wrap that made you fat, its the Big Mac, the chicken sandwich, fries, coke and hot fudge sundae that did it.. or the huge bowls of Pasta.... or whatever your addiction was... Peace! and a special shout out to all of the people who took this post as what it was meant to be, a way to share info on what we are eating, and some tips......... thanks Southernsleever, Supersweetums, and as always, Tiffykins!!! -
Support System Failure - The garbage eaters in your life
Jachut replied to aliciab's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
This really is so true. You just cant expect others to change, and I know you realise that, but you need to be in a place where you're not affected by what others choose for themselves. As long as they dont try to coax or cajole you into it, making a big song and dance about eating chocolate for example, you really do have to get to a state where you can identify whether you truly want something or are just reacting to the sight of it. We will be bombarded with food everywhere we go for our entire lives, not just at home with our families, so its an essential skill to develop. For me its about being able to have ANYTHING I want if I truly want it - knowing that, and having the years of experience behind me now to know that I can eat the occasional treat and not gain weight - means that I'm able to say no if I dont really want something just now, because I know I can have it anytime I truly want. Developing this skill has freed me from the diet merrygoround and is why I really dont believe in "dieting" as such. But I still get frustrated with those weeks where you have a zillion obligations on and they all involve eating and drinking! That drives me nuts, I think dont we have ANY social situations or celebrations in our society which arent focussed on alcohol and bad food?
