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This just screams TRANSFER ADDICTION WAITING TO HAPPEN. I'm so whatever about all of it when people choose to make absurd decisions especially after going through such a traumatic surgery, and all of the changes that occur. Enjoy whatever you choose, and why even bother asking if you're clearly going to disregard not only medical advice, but other's experiences, don't b*tch about stalls and not being able to lose weight, or why your body is not recovering all that great, or you damage your liver by shoving alcohol in there too early.

So havent been on in a while but im hoping to get some advice from anyone that might have some. It seems like lately iv found that im eating less and less.... about 2months ago i was up to around 600 cals a day, Since then Iv found that iv been eating less and less now im down to under 200cals a day. Its not because I am trying not to eat,(or i dont think thats what it is) its because I am not hungry, and when I am hungry, such a small amount fills me that im full after eating very little. I rarely feel hungry and when I do I usually eat something very small (100 cals or under) and then im pretty much full for the rest of the day. I think maybe some of it could be phycological, I guess part of me is terrified to ever get where I was before, and I feel like I might hold some resentment towards food now.I cry when I think about how I let MY body... the only body that I will ever have get so out of control...I understand that food isnt the enemy and its the food choices you make that matter, but I feel like the more weight i lose the more i dislike food. I feel like im almost scared of food and the power it had over me in the past...Its weird because when your addicted to drugs, alcohol, or gambeling, the only way to break the addiction is to eliminate the addiction completely from your life and be "sober" but you cant completely eliminate food... so its a bit trickier i guess. Has anyone else felt so scared of food that you hate to eat now? oh ya....I am just over 8 months out and am down 80lbs from my day of surgery. I did this surgery not just to look and feel better about myself but also to be healthy... Does anyone have any help/advice? Maybe someone else has felt this way at some point...? Is this normal?

I rarely drink alcohol, but I wouldn't want to sign a document agreeing never to have alcohol again. One reason I've hardly ever had any alcohol is because of the empty claroies and so that hasn't changed with the band. I don't have more than one drink when I do drink and so I will just try a small amount at those specail occasions now that I am banded. I just think your doctor went too far with that request. It seems as if these doctors sometimes go too far into our personal lives, especially because they often aren't our primary care physicians.I was troubled by my lap band surgeon demanding that I get a pap smear and a mammogram on top of everything else he requested because my primary care physician and I already have that covered and I didn't think it was any of his business or had anything to do with the banding surgery. They know that they can ask us to do almost anything because we really want the surgery and so these types of abuse of power happen. Enough is enough.

Most will say no way, but I'm three months out and I have had a few drinks on the weekends when I've been at the lake and camping and I feel just fine. I have read here that you get a buzz way faster, but I just didn't feel that was true. I thought it may happen so took it slow, but overall the alcohol experience is much similar to the way it was before surgery. I do miss beer though. I can not stomach anything with carbonation. That I do know is very bad. I know I will probably get heat for sharing this I just wanted to be honest because this was a question I was looking for before I had surgery.

I think what dives me the most nuts is the contradictions. On Monday night the bariatric group is telling me it is OK to drink alcohol that is lower in calories in moderation once you meet your goal weight, but then 2 days later I am signing a piece of paper saying that I will never drink alcohol again. It i similar that they tell you not to drink crystal light or other sugar free drinks, but it is OK to eat sugar free jello and popsicles. Are the sugar free ingredients in those magically different then the sugar free ingredients in crystal light?

Drinking alcohol has been strongly discouraged in my nutrition counseling sessions but I haven't been asked to sign anything. Since I can take it or leave it, I would not resent being asked to commit to such llifestyle. What I have been asked to sign is that I will never smoke again. Since I never did, that is cool also. Giving up caffiene is the hard one for me. But I am doing much better than I was and plan to be down to zero come surgery time. All of these restrictions are for our safety and ultimate good. Every doctor has their own treatment expectations. If this is an issue, maybe you need to find a surgeon you can work with in agreement on the alcohol restrictions. All the best to you. You may find that you hate the taste of it after surgery. Melinda

*side eye* Uhhhh....no!!! I gave up smoking, that should be plenty!!! My nutritionist just told me that alcohol will effect me differently....oh and I should try 'drinking' at home first to test the waters!!! LOL! I guess folks go out and go CA-WAZY (ya have to say it like its spelled) and drink like they did pre-band.

OMG I had to sign a piece of paper today at my pre-op procedures stating that I agree to never have any alcohol for the rest of my life. The weird part is at the support group meeting this week. The Coordinator talked about not having to give up alcohol for ever, just know that it is empty calories Also to make better alcohol choices like Wine vs a margarita. Did anyone else have to sign a paper like that.

Dave, I can so understand where you are coming from and I am here to tell you to look deep inside yourself to find the courage to take this important step. It is completely natural to have fears and reservations about the surgery, but if you read as many posts as you can on this board, you will have a hard time finding anyone who has had the surgery and has any regrets (except possibly, not having the surgery sooner). Thirteen months ago, I was where you are -- about to have the surgery and really scared. I knew I wanted to change my life, but I was really afraid to have the surgery. Fortunately, I did tons of research on this board and in other places on the web and I gradually came to realize that this was the right step for me. As a 44 year old widowed father of three kids, I needed to get control of my life and start living again. Today, 13 months after the surgery, I have lost 120 pounds and am thinner than I have ever been in my adult life. My life is far from perfect and I think it is a mistake to think that losing weight will make all your problems disappear, but it certainly is helping. I'm working with a therapist on some of my other issues, but the weight loss has given me a huge head start in feeling better physically and emotionally. As far as the recovery goes, the first month or two really sort of suck. You can't eat much and when you can start eating solid food, each meal is a sort of experiment in which you see what you can tolerate and sometimes the results are not pretty. I remember taking my kids on vacation about 6 weeks after my surgery and vomitting into zip-locks bags that I had to keep with me in the car. The good news is that it gets better really quickly and you will be encouraged because you will be losing weight right away. The biggest adjustment I have had to make is coming to terms with the fact that I will never again be able to eat like I used to. For a little bit of time, that made me sad and I think I went through a bit of a mourning phase. But then I realized that eating the way I used to was how I got into trouble in the first place and I came to accept the fact that I cannont handle food the way other people can. I think it is very interesting that you used the example of an alcoholic. It really helped me when I came to understand and accept that just as a recovering alcoholic can never again drink the way they did, I will never be able to eat the way I used to eat. The wonderful thing about the sleeve is that it is always in place and serves as a physical barrier to prevent me from overeating at times (like so many in the past) when my will-power might be weak and I am tempted to overeat. Gradually, over time, food has become less important in my life and I know longer obsess about it. Good luck to you on this journey. You don't say how old you are, but my sense is that you are young. Congratulations on having the courage to take this major step. You are not going to regret it. Best to you, Brian

Hi All... My name is David, and I am new to the forum. In 19 days I will be sleeved and in 4 days, I start my pre-op liquid diet. So here is my story, my fears, my hopes - for all to see. I wasnt always overweight. In high school I could run a mile in under six minutes. I could run 3 miles in the morning, go to school, track or football practice after school, and then eat a whole pizza! I was solid muscle at 160 / 5'11" when I joined the Army after school. By college, I was up to 175, but after leaving the Army - my weight went uphill, now topping the scale at 310. Running even 10 feet is not in the equation now! I considered bariatric surgery a few years ago and decided against it. My fears got the better of me, and I went on living overweight and gaining everyday. I did go through periods of dieting, exercising, and doing the right things, but could never stay on course as it seemed I never saw the benefit. On top of this, I developed a large hernia after an appendectomy that severely limits my activity. That hernia is now causing daily pain and periods of illness where I think it gets "bunched up" at night if I sleep on it wrong. This leads to days of nausea, vomiting and pain. It’s time to get this all back under control. The plan is to do the sleeve and then months later, do the hernia repair. The plan is to start my life over and get back to where I can look forward to living long enough to see my daughter grow up. I’ll be honest and blunt… I am scared out of my wits! The thoughts going through my head every day are like those of an alcoholic trying to decide if being sober is worth it. Can I live with not eating what I want anymore? Can I live with doing the right things for my body? - but then again, if I don’t I probably won’t live anyway. The recovery from the surgery might be hell, can I stand it? The other thoughts that go through my mind are equally strange. I was a good looking guy until I got fat. Girls looked at me… now, when girls look at me I think their thoughts are “how can that guy be so fat?” Hopefully that changes as well! I am tired of walking into a meeting, a party, a room and immediately recognizing I am the most overweight person there. I am tired of sweating when no one else is. I am tired of avoiding pools, the beach, or any sort of physical activity. It’s time to stop. My challenges are tremendous, but hopefully not insurmountable. I look forward to following the progress of folks on this site as I go through the journey so many have before me. I can only hope my outcome is as positive!

I kinda feel weird telling people too. I think it is like I'm admitting to all that my weight is out of control. So far the few people I've told are very excited for me, which was weird. It felt like I won the lottery or something and I'm thinking don't you people realize that this is going to change the way I live, the way I think about food, that I won't just be able to eat and drink what I want anymore. Part of me is excited about the weight I have the OPPORTUNITY to lose but at the same time I think I will be in mourning a little for the lifestyle I once lead. I know it wasn't a good lifestyle, I mean it has caused me to weigh over 300 lbs. but alot of those times eating where great times with friends and family. Also it took me 25 yrs. to get this size. I think people don't know what the lap band is and I think they will be looking for the huge fast weight loss like ByPass gives. I worry that they will be looking at what I'm eating, maybe they are just curious but at the same time I know they will be judging me. Truly I think the worst part about telling people is admitting that you have a food addiction. It is like you are telling them that you are an alcoholic or something. I think some people don't know what to say or how to respond. Should they be happy for us that we confessed or feeling sorry for us that we have to go have surgery to be more in control of our bodies? It is a weird thing. I've begun to share with more people, maybe if I share and then explain that it is just another tool to help me be more aware of what I'm eating, a tool like my Weight watchers slide, my food journal, my measuring spoons, my calorie counting, ETC.!!!!! I think I'll also feel strange when people begin to notice and ask, "how'd you lose the weight?', it doesn't seem fair that I only say, "I'm watching what I eat, I'm counting calories, I'm exercising." Not, I have a new little device in my body that will make me sick if I eat too much or drink carbonated beverages or will make me vomit if I clogged it up! Oh yeah. I'll just see how it goes. I think sharing with some people that have also struggled with their weight may help them to seek out help too. REGFERN

Found on web Sunday, September 30, 2007 Alcohol after Gastric Bypass A glass of wine or two. A beer. A little mixed drink. Would that be OK after a gastric bypass? Well, early after the surgery, while the stomach is healing, you really want to avoid the irritant effect of alcohol. You want your pouch to heal well. So, the answer, as far as we know, is "no". But, what about drinking, let's say 6 months, a year, or more after the surgery? A very interesting study confirmed the previous opinion, that is, alcohol levels go higher after gastric bypass than people who had no such surgery. In a study published in the September issue of the journal "Surgery for Obesity and Related Diseases" (SOARD), researchers from Stanford School of Medicine, Stanford, California, concluded that the gastric bypass patients had a greater peak alcohol level and a longer time for the alcohol level to come back down to zero than the individuals who did not have gastric bypass. A particularly interesting finding was that the gastric bypass patients did not feel that alcohol influenced them any more than the no-surgery group. Could that explain why there are reports of post-gastric bypass patients who were cited for driving under the influence (DUI) after a small social alcoholic drink? Maybe. But also remember that there are other complications related to alcohol intake. Liver disease from alcohol is well-known. To develop alcoholic liver disease on top of the known obesity-related liver disease can be particularly dangerous. Alcohol is not good for peptic ulcers, either. Alcohol calories are empty calories, which is not what gastric bypass patients want to ingest. Also alcohol drinking has been linked to Vitamin B1 deficiency. Severe vitamin B1 deficiency can lead to serious nerve damage, that is, Wernicke’s encephalopathy. So far, we do not have a perfectly scientific answer to the question: Is it OK to drink, in moderation, if you are not driving, several months or years after gastric bypass? We just do not have the final answer, and prefer to err on the cautious side. Better be safe than sorry. References: Klockhoff H, Naslund I, Jones AW. Faster absorption of ethanol and higher peak concentration in women after gastric bypass surgery.Br J Clin Pharmacol. 2002 Dec;54(6):587-91. Hagedorn JC, Encarnacion B, Brat GA, Morton JM. Does gastric bypass alter alcohol metabolism? SOARD. 2007 Sept;3(5):543-8. (Note: This is the study quoted above) Posted by Hanafy M. Hanafy, MD at 7:04 PM <SPAN class="item-control blog-admin pid-1994542692' class='icon-action' alt='""' /> </SPAN><DIV class="post-share-buttons goog-inline-block' class='icon-action' alt='""' /></DIV>Labels: Bariatric, Eating Behavior, Eating Habits, food Choices, Gastric Bypass, Healthy Lifestyles, Lifestyle after Bariatric Surgery if (window['tickAboveFold']) {window['tickAboveFold'](document.getElementById("latency-6167538524377775520")); } <A id=Blog1_blog-pager-newer-link class=blog-pager-newer-link title="Newer Post" href="http://bariatricslounge.blogspot.com/2007/10/paradox.html">Newer Post Older Post Home

Ok... I've been lurking here for awhile, and have read all of the articles on alcohol everyone has posted. However, the sleeve patients in my town have their own group on facebook, and the alcohol question finally came up today. One person said they were told that it is more common to have liver damage post sleeve from drinking alcohol than it would be before being sleeved. Is this true? It makes no sense to me. I mean your liver is unchanged, so why would it be MORE damaged after a STOMACH surgery? If anyone has heard this before or know why this may be true please let me know. There's probly something I'm underthinking. lol.

Really? How far out are you? Did you drink this much pre-surgery? If not, you might have traded alcohol for food and that can be very serious. Even if you did, do you really think it's worth all the empty calories? Please don't take this wrong - I don't know you or your circumstances. But, you might want to consider talking to someone ... Normally, any more than 7 drinks a week on a consistent basis is a warning sign for alcoholism.

As noted by others, stomach healing and irritation is an issue at your early stage, and the alcohol is just empty calories that impede your weight loss. The third major issue is indeed your liver - even though it hasn't been physically touched by the surgery (or maybe it was, but not cut...) the liver is usually not in the best of shape in obese patients to begin with, and the rapid weight loss further taxes the liver by virtue of its' role in metabolising the fat that we're losing so it doesn't need any extra aggravation from alcohol during the period of rapid weight loss. My doc is one of those who is out on the farther end of the scale on booze consumption - none during the 12-18 months of prime weight loss - and for good reason : his other specialty beyond bariatrics is liver tramsplants, and he doesn't want to see any of his bariatric patients coming back to him for a transplant. Take it for what you will.

My cholesterol used to be off the charts crazy, triglycerides through the roof. Today my doc told me he does not have any other patients with numbers as good as mine! At 4 months post op my Lipid profile was as follows: Triglycerides 101 HdL 52 ldl 113 Total cholesterol 185 Now at 8 months Triglycerides 55 HDL 114 Ldl 66 Total cholesterol 191 So if you are not sure what all that means here is some info: LDL (low density lipoprotein cholesterol, also called "bad" cholesterol) HDL (high density lipoprotein cholesterol, also called "good" cholesterol) Triglycerides (fats carried in the blood from the food we eat. Excess calories, alcohol, or sugar in the body are converted into triglycerides and stored in fat cells throughout the body.) Results of your blood test will come in the forms of numbers. Here is how to interpret your cholesterol numbers: LDL Cholesterol LDL cholesterol can build up on the walls of your arteries and increase your chances of getting heart disease. That is why LDL cholesterol is referred to as "bad" cholesterol. The lower your LDL cholesterol number, the better it is for your health. The table below explains what the numbers mean. LDL Cholesterol LDL-Cholesterol Category Less than 100 Optimal 100 - 129 Near optimal/above optimal 130 - 159 Borderline high 160 - 189 High 190 and above Very high If you have heart disease or blood vessel disease, some experts recommend that you should try to get your LDL cholesterol below 70. For people with diabetes or other multiple risk factors for heart disease, the treatment goal is to reach an LDL of less than 100. HDL Cholesterol When it comes to HDL cholesterol -- "good" cholesterol -- the higher the number, the better it is for your health. This is because HDL cholesterol protects against heart disease by taking the "bad" cholesterol out of your blood and keeping it from building up in your arteries. The table below explains what the numbers mean. HDL Cholesterol HDL-Cholesterol Category 60 and above High; Optimal; helps to lower risk of heart disease Less than 40 in men and less than 50 in women Low; considered a risk factor for heart disease Triglycerides Triglycerides are the chemical form in which most fat exists in food and the body. A high triglyceride level has been linked to the occurrence of coronary artery disease in some people. Here's the breakdown. Triglycerides Triglyceride Category Less than 150 Normal 150 - 199 Borderline high 200 - 499 High 500 or higher Very high Total Cholesterol Your total blood cholesterol is a measure of LDL cholesterol, HDL cholesterol, and other lipid components. Doctors recommend total cholesterol levels below 200 Total Cholesterol Category Less than 200 Desirable 200 - 239 Borderline High 240 and above High So basically my bad cholesterol and bad triglycerides have been cut in half and my good cholesterol has doubled! All to the benefit of diet and exercise!

So I got to the point where my scale at home pretty consistently says I've reached Onderland.....somewhere between 197-199 depending on how I've eaten and how much alcohol I've had. In one of my previous posts, I said I couldn't wait to get to that point and that I would savor it. Did I? No, not really. Mostly because I didn't really believe it at first. I figured it was due to water fluctuations or whatever other excuses I came up for myself. For what it's worth, the medical scale at my gym is still says 203 lbs, with gym clothes on. Maybe I'll believe it when that scale doesn't require me to move the heavy bar to 200...but either way, it doesn't really matter, I realize the number is rather arbitrary...it's more about how I look and feel. Which makes it rather ironic that I'm now really interested in this idea that I can get to 192lbs and that would represent 100lbs lost. I don't know how I will feel then....but I do know that 100lbs lost is a big accomplishment. I hope I let myself enjoy THAT milestone. On the NSV front, something that I don't notice must have changed about my appearance because both my mother and grandmother went on and on about how I'm nearly unrecognizable. I don't see my grandmother that often, the last time was at Christmas so I guess I can buy that I look different than I did then. But my mom? I'd seen her about 3 weeks before. A few other people have made comments so I guess I have no choice but to believe that I somehow look different but I honestly cannot see any tremendous change in the way I looked 2 months ago and the last time I saw my mom. The scale isn't really giving me any answers, I have seriously only lost maybe 2-3 pounds between mom visits. But I had been religiously going to my Crossfit class 2x a week so maybe I traded some fat loss for muscle gain which would account for the scale not really moving but having some sort of change in my appearance. I don't know. I guess I should just accept it but the mental gymnastics this weight loss thing requires is much more complicated than I'd anticipated. My dad has been away since March and is coming back next month and apparently my grandmother told him about my supposed grand transformation. Gee thanks, no pressure there, grandma! Not to say that my dad won't think I look different but I'm nervous that he'll be expecting me to look a certain way and I won't meet that expectation. I'm 5'4.....I still have a good 60lbs to go to get to a normal range and personally, I'd like to lose another 75lbs. I know my weight has been a family conversation for years but usually I'm not privy to them as I had asked everyone to back off a long time ago. Being the center of the conversation again, even on the positive side is not pleasant. So this post is a bit whiny (people are saying I've lost weight and look good....wah!) so I'll end with something a bit more upbeat. I'm planning on visiting my friend in Naples, Italy in November and she's a photographer. I've seen her take amazing pictures of people and make everyone look good and I asked her to shoot me but when I last visited her (3 years ago), she couldn't point the camera at me in anyway without me feeling uncomfortable. But this time I'm at my lowest weight ever and I look forward to getting some good pictures out of her so it's a good incentive to stick to my diet as much as possible and get some amazing pics out of the deal. Dieting for a photo shoot....how far I have come

Hi, We had surgery on the same day. We also started at the same weight almost. I was 264 according to my home scale. I have not done as well as you and I take full blame for that. I have not followed the rules as closely as I should and I have been indulging in alcohol on most weekends which stalls and slows my weight loss. I had to come to grips with that today and stop fooling myself. So I am cutting out the alcohol all together. I am also cutting out the carbs for the rest of the month so that I can jump start my losses again. I have been at the same weight for the last 3 months. My next fill appt is on 8/17 hoping to be down at least 10 more lbs by then. You have done very well at least your in onederland as I should be too. I take consolation in the fact that most surgeons say that with the band we can lose from 1/3 to 1/2 of our excess weight. I'm so disappointed in myself overall though. My band has not failed me I have failed it but I will get it together.

My dr told me to wait a year, I waited 3 months (and checked with him first) and have only had wine, since it is lower in carbs and not carbonated. I took a sip of mimosa once and it wrecked my stomach for the rest of the day. Let me tell you that I was no lightweight before the surgery but now a glass of wine puts me under the table. Its actually kind of awesome being a cheap date again. lol. I would check with your doctor before trying anything. At 2 weeks I was still on Clear Liquids and couldnt even imagine putting alcohol in my body. Its better to play it safe and wait at least a few more months and check with your doctor before trying anything because the last thing you want is to disrupt your staple line. Good luck!

From a purely medical standpoint?......Absolutely NOT! If you had broken your arm and it was in a cast at two weeks would you want to arm wrestle? You are in the very EARLY stages of healing from a MAJOR surgerical procedure. Your stomach is still swollen and trying to recover from trauma. Your liver is in high gear processing all the fat breakdown from a very low caloric diet. The alcohol will go thru your new stomach very quickly and hit your liver hard. After everything you have done to get to this point is "partying" really worth it? Do you have to have a drink in order to have fun? Can't you go and have fun without alcohol? Later after you are all healed you can have a drink in moderation but remember it will never be the same as it was before due to the fact of how hard it will hit your system and quickly raise your blood alcohol level faster than a normal size stomach. I hope you make the right decision.

Just because they didn't touch your liver doesn't mean that it's not going to be affected by your drinking alcohol this early. Most surgeons have a 3-6 month on alcohol consumption. It's wasted calories, and yes, it will probably hit you faster, and harder because your stomach size is considerably decreased, and transit time is much faster meaning the alcohol will hit your intestines faster. Alcohol, food, liquids, are NOT digested in the stomach, about 85% of digestion occurs in the intestine. So, your stomach has little to do with the processing of alcohol. All our big stomach did was make it easier to take bigger drinks, and it sloshed around in there for a little longer. Also, something to consider is that during the weight loss phase, you liver is working double time to process everything, and then you're going to throw alcohol into your system. Tasking it even more than before with alcohol. The liver is kind of the like the toxic waste plant of the body, everything we put in there is broken down through the liver, when we're shedding fat, it's got to process all of that, plus the Vitamins, medications we take. That fresh staple line would probably appreciate you not dumping harsh alcohol products in there. Not to mention the fact that alcohol is a diuretic and can cause dehydration which leads to other issues such as nausea, and vomiting. Party up all you want once your body recovers. I'm a very social drinker, but I didn't bother with alcohol until I was at goal. If you insist on drinking, I would recommend at least trying it at home, and not indulging in public the first time. Many people report getting drunk very quickly post-op on a small amount of alcohol. Being the life of the party is not being the idiot that gets drunk after 2oz of a gin and tonic and acting like a moron.

All surgeons are different on their post-op guidelines. Alcohol can irritate a newly sleeved tummy and can contribute to dehydration in someone that's not able to getin the minimum water/fluid requirement. I have read numerous people mention alcohol hitting them way harder, so be careful.

Hi Need to know if anyone drank when they were approximately 2 weeks+ out from surgery date... (drank .. alcohol)? What will happen if I do? What damage can it cause? Only my stomach was removed, so I dont think it will have any effect as my liver and everything else is still exactly the same as before... Im going to a convention and will want to party it up for sure... so wondering if I will be able to drink? Does having a smaller stomach effect how I handle alcohol now? BTW, i dont really drink beer or wine, I mostly stick to vodka/gin.

Thank you so much for posting this. I am 12 days out from my surgery and adjusting to life without constantly eating. My Mom is amazing, has always been so health conscious and good about maintaining a health weight and my issues with food are completely foreign to her. Unfortunately, we have a history of alcoholism in our extended family and when I tried to explain what food addition is like I asked my Mom if she would give one of our cousins a bottle of Jack and a shot glass with the instructions that they were to have four or five shots a day but no more and once they did that they had to stop for the day. I think it was then that she began to understand. I almost wish the addition had been to drugs or alcohol because those things you can truly live without. When I got back from Mexico I found myself shopping for handbags, a huge love of mine. After finding a few I liked I said. . . . . .that will be enough of that! I get on the scale every day and marvel. I am going on a cruise next year and for the first time in my life i feel confident that I'll be able to do all the things I have wanted to do on vacation and it makes me so happy and thankful I did this. You look like a completely different person and I'm sure you feel like one. I'm so happy for you and appreciate all that you mentioned.