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Thinoneday, In my sight you are not a hypocrite and no one should advised you to go anywhere for your opinion, we may not agree but your views are always welcome. For the moment, from a sexual point of view, we all have preferences toward who I like and/or dislike. Physical attraction is an individual choice. In general, for those who are unhealthy and face long term illnesses and early death due to their body mass (as most of us were). That's another subject to ponder. Do ex cons see present day convicts in a different way, how about a recovered drug addict or a cured alcoholic, do they view existing addicts and drunks in a different light than others. Once you been there, only you know what is like to be on the other side. Lash Lash
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I never found obese/overweight men attractive either, and didn't date fat men. It's a preference just like race, ethnicity, or religion. Heck, you've seen pics of my husband, he's has a rockin' body, and it was brought up on OH a couple of days ago in a topic about leaving your spouse if they became overweight/obese. My honest answer is YES, I would leave him because it's typically the behaviors that lead to obesity. It's a cause and effect situation. Which is vastly different from him being permanently injured from a combat wound, or an suffering a traumatic injury that left him disabled/handicapped. Those were not caused by his behaviors or habits that he allowed himself to get into. Just like I'd leave him if he became an alcoholic or drug addict. Fat is a symptom of behaviors and habits, and I couldn't be with someone that chose that self-destructive path. Especially now, that I have lost weight, changed my relationship with food, and refuse to go back to where I was in the weight department.
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Has anyone cheated during the pre op diet????
MLR replied to Mscaramel38's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
I know that pre-op diets are different with different doctors and you should really try and stick with what your doctor gave you. However, mine was just low carb for two weeks. It shrank the liver so that the surgeon could get around it. I think you'll be ok with some fish and veggies. I had a little bit of alcohol because my 21st birthday was a few days before the surgery and it was fine. That's just my personal experience. You should really try and stick with yours as best you can but don't sweat it. Just think of how much weight you'll lose before you even have the surgery!! -
I think many people think if you just try/think hard enough you can stop being fat. Alcoholics are told they can never drink again. Food Addicts are told eat 3 meals a day for the rest of your life. Your friend would never tell an alcoholic it's only one drink! Do what you need to do to be healthy.
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lml, My objection to her is that it appears she's fixated on depression. she told me that I am severely depressed and have been for years...oh, and that I'm in big danger of becoming an alcoholic after surgery. Um, nope. Wrong on both counts.
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Girls weekend wine !?
Indymom replied to kayseegee's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I don't think it's a good idea this early out, you're still healing. My doc recommends at least 3-6 months before alcohol. There can also be detrimental impact to your liver as it's working overtime due to rapid weight loss. -
Girls weekend wine !?
queenmab replied to kayseegee's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I say go for it! My philosophy is that you have to LIVE your life and squeeze as much joy out of it as you can. So, if that means you have a glass of wine occasionally, you should do it. Remember, however, that alcohol can lead to an increase in appetite and MINDLESS eating. So, be careful. I am 6 weeks out and had a glass of wine at my girlfriend's birthday at 3 weeks out. I took tiny sips all night long and really made it last! Plus, I carried the glass with me in one hand and a napkin in the other, so I had something in my hands all the time, which made me really think everytime I found myself reaching for chips and finger foods or the desserts that folks brought to the party. Good luck! -
So I've been an insomniac for decades and like 10 years back I went to the doctor and got a scrip for anti depressants and anti anxiety drugs, slept pretty good for a few years. Then it started again. Then he gave me a scrip for a sleep aid - which worked for about 6 months. Now I'm off EVERYTHING - and BTW - it is HELL ON EARTH coming off both Paxil AND Xanax reliance! Then WLS and a massive drop in weight. I slept pretty well for a few months afterward, even got off my CPAP after dropping 100+ pounds. Now I get 2 or 3 hours a night if I'm lucky. I started taking 3.5 ounces of red wine every evening for heart health and in hopes the slug of alcohol would help me sleep. It helped for a few nights - probably all in my head. I lay there and toss and turn and force myself to "rest" instead of getting up. If I get up and do something like read or watch TV I'll be up all night doing it. I've taken hot showers, take melatonin sub lingual. I have a heated mattress pad since I am now cold all the time since losing the weight. I am comfortable in bed, the room is very dark and quiet - I even wear ear plugs. OTC stuff may work for a week or so then stops. So anyone got any tips on how to sleep well?
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These ladies are correct in that the band does not keep you from making bad choices. However, I disagree that it will not help you with your eating disorder. I am a compulsive overeater/food addict. I have been for many many years, and have tried all sorts of diets that didn't work. I've even been to Overeaters Anonymous (which I do recommend if you are suffering from the same disorder), which helped but I needed more. I was banded in August 2009, and have since lost almost 160 pounds. Because I could not physically eat as much, the band forced me to find other ways to deal with my emotions. It is only recently that my compulsions have returned, but now I know how to deal with them and will not relapse as badly as I would have pre-band. Yes, you will have to learn how to control your addiction and compulsions, otherwise you will be in a tremendous pain. And the band is not full-proof and it will take a while to get to good restriction. After surgery you will probably be very motivated and will follow the rules to a T, which will help while you are in "bandster hell" (not having full restriction yet). I am a firm believer that the band can help you overcome compulsive overeating/food addiction. It is a disease you will live with the rest of your life (just like being an alcoholic or drug addict...our drug of choice is food), but if you have the right tools you can learn to live without food controlling you. As long as you stay focused and follow your doctor's directions, the band WILL work for you. It is very freeing when food no longer controls your life!
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Sugar Free Chocolate Candy
Hanir replied to Marie from Michigan's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
The ingredient in sugarfree stuff is probably malatol or another alcohol sugar. One problem is that the substitute sweeteners can cause a lot of gas and "D" if you eat to much of it. I think that I'd have the regular/real chocolate on occasion and really enjoy it rather than the sugar-free stuff... -
Downing a whole bottle! BWHAAAAAA. . . that is funny. . . I had my first drink after 12 weeks (and with the blessing of the doctor) and let me tell you it was sooooo yum. . and since then have been having my good old rum and cokes regularly. . . hasn't hurt me any. . . doctor just said drink within moderation, so that is what i do. . . i don't see the harm in a sip or two of wine, but i would really ask the doctor and honey don't say it's because of the stress of this and that, just say you want a drink! If it was because of the stress, heavens 1 bottle wouldn't cover it and we'd all be alcoholics! hehehehe . . . good luck!
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Remember that post-op care instructions vary from doctor to doctor, so different people will be told different things. From what I know, avoiding alcohol is important for two reasons. First and most important, your stomach is still healing for six months; the scar formation -- which is very important -- around your incision could be compromised if you constantly irritate the lining, and alcohol does exactly that. In fact excess alcohol can actually cause necrosis (tissue death) in the stomach lining. Is that what you want going on when your stomach is still trying to heal from a very traumatic surgery? Also, I've heard that rapid weight loss really taxes your liver, and alcohol can make that worse. Lots of obese people have a condition called hepatosteatosis -- fatty liver -- which is actually a very serious condition which can lead to cirrhosis (scarring) of the liver, or even -- in extreme cases -- death. If your liver is still recovering from this, are you sure that adding alcohol (another liver toxin) to the mix is a good idea? Bottom line, follow your doctor's orders to the letter if you're hoping for the best recovery and good weight loss results. They make those recommendations for a reason
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Main reasons: 1) Empty calories- inhibit weight loss, leads to dehydration/water retention 2) Our livers are already working overtime in the rapid weight loss stage, why put more crap in there for it to process??? Your body has been through hell and is going through so many physiological changes that alcohol can contribute to even more issues during your weight loss phase. 3) Transfer addiction- Take away the ability eat through your emotions, pick up a bottle and start drowning the issues in a bottle I was only required to wait 3 months. However, I didn't drink until I was at goal. I knew going in that I was not willing to suffer any consequences from having alcohol early out. I was too focused on getting to goal, and getting healthy. However, many people start drinking earlier, and suffer no ill effects. We trusted our surgeons to amputate the majority of a major organ, I figure we should trust them on what we put in our bodies post-op. Here are some other topics that have been shared over time here on this subject: http://www.verticalsleevetalk.com/topic/22739-another-alcohol-question/page__p__191944__hl__alcohol__fromsearch__1#entry191944 http://www.verticalsleevetalk.com/topic/22435-alcohol-carbonated-bevs/page__p__189205__hl__alcohol__fromsearch__1#entry189205 http://www.verticalsleevetalk.com/topic/19240-sugaralcohol/page__p__162127__hl__alcohol__fromsearch__1#entry162127
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So just wondering why its so long to have a drink. I've been drying for just a small glass of wine. Work has been super stressful, well let me rephase that- LIFE has been super stressful. UGH. Any help would be great!
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Are there any sleevers out there that have gained a lot back?
Tiffykins replied to sleeve 4 me's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Yes, at 4 months out, I was still super restricted. The adding bread, potatoes, other mushy foods to my meat really changed well after a year post-op. A lot of it was "how" I ate the food on my plate. I would only eat the meat first, add nothing to it. Once I got into maintenance, and eating more varied diet, I started eating differently. A bite of meat, a bite of veggies, a bite of meat, a bite of potatoes. Those mushy foods helped the food go through faster, and didn't take up space. I didn't touch bread for months, and for the first year, it was really difficult for me to eat breads. Now, they're a bit of a slider food. I still feel restriction with breads, but I can eat it without discomfort at this point. Just like, if I decide to drink wine before a meal, I can eat more. Sometimes, I'll have coffee or a hot tea (like at the Japanese restaurant we frequent) before my meal, I can fit a few more bites in. The alcohol and warm liquids all relax my stomach. Another reason why alcohol is so discouraged early out. Snacking and drinking go hand in hand especially in social settings. We drink, we snack, we drink some more, we snack some more etc etc. That's what led to my gain over the holidays last year. -
2 weeks, 3 days out... can I drink yet?
Bandme1 replied to gdc's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Well, "congratulations" on being able to down sugary alcoholic drinks "all night long" 2 weeks after surgery. Fabulous start to your new "healthier" life. -
I can't believe I had to sign that.
cwm812 replied to AMayo1's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I can't believe anyone would think of asking you to sign that. You are getting a lap band, not moving to Mars! Of course, we all recognize that alcohol is just empty calories, but really, as adults can't we decide what we choose to consume? Alcohol will not hurt your band. It will merely impede your weight loss, as do lots of other poor choices. Maybe I should sign something to indicate that I won't eat pumpkin pie at Thanksgiving. As for drinking with the band, I'm not a big drinker, but I do have a glass of wine every now and then. I've tried beer, but the carbonation makes me sick. Since, I lost half my body size, alcohol does effect me much quicker. You do need to be cautious, but you don't need to avoid it for the rest of your life. I really think that the secret to success with the band is to live as normally as possible. Crazy rules like this, just make it harder to think for yourself and make good choices. Information is useful, arbitrary rules are not. Cindy -
2 weeks, 3 days out... can I drink yet?
Janese58 replied to gdc's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Once again....what a couple of clowns. I never thought for a minute a "she" wrote the original post. As for judging etc. someones morals, GDC "asked" for everyone's opinion by coming on here and annoucning his intentions. Who in their right mind gets this surgery to just turn around and start abusing it 2 weeks out? Give me a break......99% of the people on here are serious about losing weight and moving onto a healthier lifestyle. The other 1% are drinking and abusing alcohol 2 weeks out. -
Are there any sleevers out there that have gained a lot back?
Tiffykins replied to sleeve 4 me's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
The main issue with RNY regain is that once their malabsorption wears off, it's called intestinal adaptation, they are NOW metabolically challenged to keep the weight off. We have simple restriction only to keep us in check. For all the sleeve patients I've seen gain weight is that "life happens", and emotional eating creeps back in. Also, choosing the wrong foods, getting back into bad habits/behaviors that led to their obesity in the first seems to be the culprit. I've said since hitting maintenance that losing was super easy. Maintenance is where the hard part comes in. I'm a firm believer that behavior modification is the biggest contributor to long term success for any weight loss surgery patient. Trying to find a balance of a new "normal" and remembering what contributed to my obesity is what helps me tremendously. I do live a pretty extreme life of moderation, and I accept a 5lb bounce. Anything more than 5lbs, be it Water weight from alcohol, and carbs, or if it's a true gain from several weeks of just eating what I want (which I experienced last holiday season), and I go right back to Protein, protein, protein. Knock on wood, I was not compulsive or emotional with food. I just ate a lot of it. I have only recently been dealing with head hunger, and absurd cravings that I can only contribute to the pregnancy. I honestly can not wait for the next 3 months to fly by so I can get off this rollercoaster, and back on plan with my eating. It's been an emotional twist for me that I've gained weight, and that I can not get into ketosis. -
2 weeks, 3 days out... can I drink yet?
Tiffykins replied to gdc's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I'm not calling anyone out on their morals. I could give 2 poops about someone's morals. This is not about morals, or convictions to drink. This is about the sheer medical facts and statistics of drinking soon after major surgery, and the risk of transfer addiction. I believe it's reckless and hazardous behavior not only to do this to your body early out from major surgery. And, you're right, whoever will only live ONCE, but there is NO reason to rush to the end of it. Many obese people self-medicate with food, no different than self-medicating with alcohol. If you've been around the forums long at all, done any amount of research, you take away a fat person's ability to eat, the risk for a transfer addiction is quadrupled. It's called educating someone, not judging, nor worrying about someone's moral compass. I care more about what this poster is doing to their body and that others might follow suit because of this one experience. It's detrimental to the liver to drink this early out. Bottom line, it's ridiculous and absurd. -
2 weeks, 3 days out... can I drink yet?
Bandme1 replied to gdc's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I don't think it's ganging up if everyone is saying that it's not healthy. The fact is, it's *not* healthy. I don't think you'll be able to find a doctor that would say drinking alcohol 2 weeks after a major surgery is healthy. You're right, there is no need for name calling, but it is not absurd to be appalled by the question. If I came in the forum and asked "Hey, what do you guys think, would it be okay if I eat a gallon of ice cream?" I would expect all the answers to be similar to the ones posted in this thread. The fact is, it's just downright unhealthy and it's a big risk to take so soon after a major surgery. You're right, we do only live once, so we need to take care of the bodies that we have, because we only get one. Yes, it is okay to drink on occasion and have a party, but the best way to do that *responsibly* would be to wait until more time has passed after such a major surgery. If you and gdc choose to abuse your new sleeve that you have been fortunate enough to have, that is indeed your decision, but you can't come into a support group (which is geared toward encouraging each other to be healthier) and expect praise and worship for abusing your sleeve. *steps down off soapbox* -
2 weeks, 3 days out... can I drink yet?
Norman replied to gdc's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Why are people so judgmental. Honestly a drink or two is not going to hurt a normal sleeve. Yes it is empty calories and could hinder weight loss. Yes abusing alcohol can cause liver problems. She will only live once. If she wants a drink knowing what might happen so be it. You made the decision not to. That was a healthier and better decision for you. Why do we need to judge others for their morals. This ganging up on someone and name calling really makes me sad. http://discountdesignsolutions.gostorego.com/new-shirts.html -
Almost Four Years Sleeved - A Cautionary Tale
ouroborous replied to Last Chance Lil's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
Yeah, the emotional/psychological stuff is really important. I really don't like all of the addiction/recovery language, but the fact is that many of us ate to soothe our emotions rather than to fuel our bodies. Ultimately, you have to find out what's going on in your mind that's leading you to self-destruct like this, and figure out how to fix it. Makes it sound simple, and it's NOT, but... it's what you have to do if you want to be healthy. For me, I've long had problems with depression and anxiety, and I often soothed both through food. I've been learning other, healthier ways of coping with depression (and also anxiety, since the two go hand in hand), and the good news is that most of those coping mechanisms are also good for my general health -- exercise, healthy sleep schedule, avoid excess caffeine and alcohol and carbs, etc. I get the double benefit of a healthier, more balanced, happy mind, as well as a happy sleeve that works with me to keep my weight down! Good luck, and congratulations on your progress so far! -
2 weeks, 3 days out... can I drink yet?
brazcan replied to gdc's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I think it is too soon a youir stomach is not even healed yeat. At this stage I was still in light liquids. We all know alcohol is irritating to mucosas so I would wait a bit more, perhaps until you are well adjusted to most foods, and try it at home just in case it hits you badly. -
2 weeks, 3 days out... can I drink yet?
Sammi25 replied to gdc's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
im a month out, im a social 25 yr old, and i wouldnt even think about having a sip of a pop, let alone alcohol. you came all this way to risk it? yikes!
