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HAHAHAHAAHA! IKR? Pretty much MASSIVE amounts of alcohol would need to be involved and then I'd pass out before the deed was done! LOL But I know we will figure it all out! TY for listening and helping!!
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WOW!!! Soooo many things all at once! I would be a huge crank, too!!!! Don't forget to hug yourself and give yourself huge proppahs for being hellah strong! You are doing this girl!!! Running and deep breathing will become your best friends!!! When craving bad, deep breathe. If that doesn't work, get moving outside in very brisk fresh air. Run fast, fast fast!!!! Drink lots o water today. Will help your brain come off of everything. Part of your bloat is period. That's also part of your cravings I bet?!! Also without the alcohol, the body wants sugar/carbs - hence the candied nuts as well. ((hugs)) Hang in there. You're a rockstar!!
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Yeah. I know you are right. Sooooooo easy just to keep snacking endlessly on that stuff. Thanks to the nuts I'm all bloaty and icky and CRANKY. (Actually I could probably blame the lack of nicotine too. And my period. Oh and the fact that I'm choosing to go alcohol-free for a while). It's a new day today, I've had my coffee and a run (hey! I didn't run yesterday either!!! another reason for the crank probably...) will make a concentrated effort to be cool today. P.S. @FluffyChix: also wanted to give you a thanks for inspiring a quit-smoking tip you mentioned in another thread (it was probably the maintenance thread...) The other day I sat outside with my coffee SANS cigarette and did some deep breathing. While admittedly not as satisfying (yet), it was close. ❤️
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never smoked, and gave up alcohol prior to surgery.
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I used to drink 2 bottles of wine a week. I didn't get smashed, but I had some every night. I thought I wouldn't be able to break that habit easily, but WLS did break it. Now I don't drink at home - just when I'm out with friends for a special occasion. The last time I had alcohol was about a month ago, but this weekend is a girls' weekend, so I'm going to be making friends with a bottle of Prosecco. 😉 Really looking forward to it - it's a treat to have a wee tipple now!
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Having this surgery leaves you vulnerable to death by alcohol poisoning . Think alcohol enema . Be careful , just sayin.
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This is mostly how I feel about drinking. Every single time I’ve indulged it’s been with forethought. When I had a horrible night Thursday, I thought about opening a bottle, then realized that I didn’t have the calorie allowance for it, and my eating window (I practice IF) had closed for the day anyways so I had a hot tea (with a packet of truvia) instead. I did have a mis-step this week and went for an extra margarita and skipped dinner, but that was a choice I’ve only made about 3-4 times in the last 9 months and I can live with it. As long as I can enjoy the occasional night out and alcohol indulgence without gaining weight and wrecking maintenance, I’m totally fine with it
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I can get drunk and sober several times in one night. Sometimes I’m drunk off 1 drink but I sober up in a crazy fast rate. Keep most of my drinks low in alcohol sugars and diet or calorie free mixers. Addiction transfer is real. My sister is in AA and my uncle was a hardcore drunk so I’m mindful. Luckily, zero issues with my drinking habits. I was actually sober from 2007 (17) until 2012. I didn’t really NEED it but I was going through a weird time as I became bipolar. Once I got that sorted and took an addition class at UCLA I realized I’m a normie!
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I have 1-2 drinks maybe 3-5 days a week. Some days I have 1 daily. Occasionally I have more like when I went to Vegas. I just make sure I’m not driving because how it hits me is unpredictable and I make sure I use low calorie mixers and include it in my daily macros. I found FitVine and it’s damn good wine for lower carbs and keeps the alcohol content like normal wines. After my sleeve my first drink was about 3 months out (had 1 for thanksgiving). After sleeve revision I waited a couple months. I’ve had a complication that’s either ulcers or something else (getting my cat scanned Thursday). So for now I’ve put away all coffee, alcohol and most caffeine but I’m a slave to Diet Coke so I have one every other day. I’m secretly hoping it’s some easy to fix complication vs ulcers because I desperately need to start using my topical NSAID for a double shoulder repair. No pain meds and I’m suffering!
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** Mandatory Disclaimer: This is my experience and I neither recommend nor advise against drinking to anyone who chooses to read this. The choice to drink or not to drink is yours, and yours alone, and any consequences or benefits you encounter are also yours and yours alone. ** So pre-wls I drank, and post-wls I still do. I was never (nor am I now) a drinker because I needed something to help me unwind or relax or take my mind off things. I drink because I'm having a dinner that calls for it, or I'm with friends/family and a good time is being had (or about to be had, lol). I guess I'm more of a binge drinker...? Had my first drink (1/4 of a glass of red wine) at around 4-5 weeks. The past couple weeks aside (as I'm consciously laying off the alcohol for a couple more weeks as a PPI-wean-off experiment), and not counting alcohol-laden vacations, I probably have 1 day every couple of weeks where I'll drink maybe 5-6-7 drinks over the course of the evening. And maybe 1/2 a glass of wine with dinner one or 2 days a week. My choice of liquor though is a lot lower sugar than it used to be. The dryest of red wines, vodka sodas, skinny mojitos, straight tequila. Once in a while I'll drink a sugar-laden something or other, but the sugar doesn't sit well with me, so I need to be mindful of that. In terms of volume, I drank waaaaaay more pre-wls. This is likely because I get pretty drunk pretty fast now. I do however, sober up really quickly. Which I think is pretty awesome. For those who have previously experienced the need for assistance in walking out of establishments after a night out, you can vouch for this as an honest-to-goodness super-power. With that said, so long as I feel like my drinking (or any habit, really) is not negatively impacting my physical or mental health, my relationships, work, financial state, or any other important aspect in my life, then its all good. Each one of us should strive to know ourselves and acknowledge what we are capable and not capable of. It would be good to learn our limits so we can stay within them. P.S. I recently admitted that I went beyond a personal-vice limit myself (smoking), and am addressing that issue now. Work in progress... ** Read Mandatory Disclaimer Above **
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Re: transfer addictions: I’ve known a couple of WLS friends who have experienced alcoholism as a transference. My advice to anyone with ANY kind of addiction that they suspect might be due to transference seek the help of a therapist. Before WLS I drank 5-6 days a week. Usually it was in moderation, but there were times I would’ve had what I called “too much” 1-2 times monthly. After WLS that has changed, but I didn’t turn into a teetotaler either. I still have my “usual” alcohol cravings— like when you have a work shift straight from the depths of hell and by-Gawd need a glass (or bottle) of wine to make it better—kinds of cravings. I actually drink much less often and much less volume than I did prior to WLS —much like I eat less often and less volume. I’m okay with this and plan on living like this for the rest of my life. For me, balance is key and quite honestly would be extremely depressed if I thought I could never have another glass of wine or a bit of bourbon over ice again in my life. I’d rather never have another bite of pasta,bread,rice,potatoes (things I still haven’t had yet since WLS) than forgo the occasional cocktail.
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Regarding alcohol consumption we were just warned to "try it at home the first time" since some people get a really strong reaction to alcohol. I don't know when we were cleared to try alcohol, can't remember since I only drink occasionally anyway and didn't pay much attention to when, what and how much.
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Don’t. Please just don’t. It’s not worth it. I used to be morbidly obese. Now I’m skinny. And an alcoholic. Every day is a fight.
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Okay, so I am going to try this. Sorry to be one day late. !. My personal goal for this challenge is to lose as much as possible over the next month. Since I almost never eat any of the stuff on the list I will have no trouble for the most part avoiding those items. However, I do need to focus on my nemesis which is alcohol. My goal for the month is to not drink alcohol on at least 10 of the days, and limit myself to 4 ounces of alcohol on other occasions. This sounds lame but I am trying to be realistic. 2. VSG 5/2/2018. While I have not met my goal. I have maintained my current weight for about 9 months. 3. CW: 212.8, BMI 34.3 4. I am most grateful that I feel great and am able to enjoy my life with my husband, family and friends. As far as technology, I am most grateful for social media since I have been able to reconnect with so many people that I had lost touch with over the years. High school friends, cousins, former patients and parents that I have cared for over the years and nurses that I have worked with over the past 37 years. It is truly amazing.
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I just googled it - it does have acetaminophen (Tylenol) in it, which should be OK. The above posters are right about the alcohol, though - depending on how much is in there, it could hit you hard. Maybe you could get the liquid and just take half a dose or something to see if you can handle it first?? Or better yet, call your clinic and ask.
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Okay so i have too push back alittle im sorry. My sister in law had throat cancer and shes always been hard core in the mormon religion so she has never even tryed alcohol yet she got it. What ever your experience with alchohol in life if its cause you been there done that or in the medical field or whatever doesnt mean alchohol is all bad maybe ur very religious or maybe like you said know information about it causeing ulcers in WLS patients. But everyone in the world you will see some get cancer others dont. My husband was told by his docter that he has a smokers lung and if he was smoking alot and he hasnt ever even tryed smoking and he doesnt drink nor knows anyone who smokes. It just depends on the persons background , genes, personality and life choices but alcohol isnt all bad. I bet i could take a question to say 7 docters and 5 out of those docters would say something is bad but the other 2 dont think its bad at all. Everything is taken in moderation and there experiences they go threw. There are about a thousand of things i do everyweek that could leave me to some sort of sickness, disease or what not later in life if thats for puting to much i cant believe spray butter on my food or eating to many red foods or not washing my fruit completely to make sure i get rid of pesticides i choice to live my best life my way. That means do what makes me happy! My choices my life. My father passed away from early on set alzheimers and died at 62 and was diagnosed at 52 with the disease so many people say if u drink this kinda water it will help so you dont get the disease and if u eat a certain food it will help with brain power but really it comes down to the unknown why he got this disease and just to many facters to figure it out. At least he had a good life and lived it his best. I can only hope at the end of the day i can be happy with myself and my choices. Thats all that matters.. i choice to drink alcohol occasionally and its delicious and i dont regret it one bit. Wish every one best of luck!
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Also, liquid NyQuil contains alcohol, so it would take effect quicker in a bypass patient. Just a FYI.
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So I will probably get a lot of kick back from this, but here it goes. Alcohol seems to be such a compromising issue for so many folks. The truth of the matter is, that NO amount of alcohol is good for you. Yes, there are antioxidants in red wine, but even very light alcohol consumption increases risk of throat, mouth, and GI cancers. Alcohol is a very strong chemical that is damaging to living tissue. Period. Think about why an alcohol swab is used on your skin before a shot. It cleans and kills. There is absolutely no reason for a bariatric patient, of all people, to drink alcohol. Yet, it is so hard to make the total break. It is the same argument I hear all the time with patients who smoke - "I just smoke 5 cigarettes a day," "I just smoke a pack every week," "I just smoke socially." When we all know that ANY amount of smoking is not good for health. All I am saying is that if we make this huge effort to improve our health with WLS, and we are willing to make total lifestyle changes to be successful in the long run for life, why do we try to compromise and flirt with seeing how much we can get away with concerning alcohol? Is it our addictive nature? Is it social pressure? It is a bit of rebellion? I believe it is a issue that is worth exploring deeply for each person and really asking the hard questions about WHY it is so important to continue drinking at all when there is absolutely no benefit, and only harm that can result. So fire away at me. I've said my 2 cent's worth and won't bring it up again.
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Every body is different on how it reacts to curtain things. I had a small margarita 4months post op and its fine. Ive had probably a glass of wine or margarita only once a month sence then. Calories was the big issue for me or the sugar contant. But it all went down fine!! my surgeon is a gym rat who says stick to protein drinks and protein bars thats all u need none of that unhealthy bad stuff i think what he says and throw it out the window most days that is not a normal way to live. So a alcoholic drink after 3months every now and again shouldnt hurt you. Limit it to 1 tho when u get in a habit you start adding in more and more and it could slip away from u and effect ur weight loss.
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My surgeon said no alcohol at all for the first year, and ideally never. I had a tiny sip of expensive champagne when I retired six months after surgery. (I swear is was such a tiny sip that it barely counted!) I was a very light drinker before surgery and do not miss drinking at all, so I intend to avoid alcohol forever. Alcohol is empty calories that take up space in your pouch that could be used for something more nutritious. Just because you can drink doesn't mean you should. My post probably sounds judgmental, and that's really not the case. It's just my perspective. 🙂
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As I have said before, as a GI nurse, I have seen the horrible effects of alcohol on post WLS patients - even years down the road. Those surgical tissues remain fragile and vulnerable. There is nothing like alcohol or NSAIDS to totally erode and ulcerate the tissues. The worst ulcers i have ever seen are on WLS patients who return to alcohol. It's not worth it, but if you want to play with fire, that is your choice. You may well end up with a bleeding, potentially life threatening, GI emergency. You have gone through too much for that. If you felt your life was worth having surgery for, then your life is certainly worth giving up alcohol for.
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My surgeon didn’t say anything about alcohol consumption. I just avoided it because of the calories & lack of nutrients. I did have a drink 4 weeks out at a cousin’s 40. I nursed that gin & tonic for 3 hours - lol - & no side effects. A couple of weeks later I tried some champagne (the real stuff too) but it was disgusting - way to sweet & blah. My changed tastebuds meant I just didn’t enjoy alcohol as much. Now, 5.5 months out & 400g shy of my goal weight, I have a small glass about once every 3/4 weeks at social outings. I’ve found a gin or scotch easiest to drink at social events. I still take ages to drink it & often don’t finish the glass. Have to admit I’m a bit nervous for this weekend as I’m off on a girls’ weekend & there will be lots of bottles of bubbles consumed. I intend to sip my one glass all night long.
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My surgeon time me to kick coffee completely before surgery (plus soda and alcohol), I haven't had any in over a month and I'm less than 3 weeks from surgery. I don't anticipate having any for a while after but I miss it. Sent from my Pixel 3 using BariatricPal mobile app
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I had my surgery on July 30 and was told no wine until my husband's b'day December. I did take a sip a week ago and it was nasty. Maybe I lost my taste for it. Alcohol is my gateway drug for mindless eating. So I'm in no hurry.
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My doctor didn't really give advice on alcohol, although based on my own research I knew about all the issues @RickM discussed above. That being said, I had a glass of wine at about 6 months out while at a dinner for work. I sipped very slowly but still felt like a total light-weight. Thankfully, it wore off pretty quick. Since that time, I have the occasional glass of wine or a cocktail for social gatherings. I wasn't much of a drinker before and I'm certainly not now. We're talking less than once a month. Since I'm very strict about not drinking while eating, that kind of limits my indulgence, but that's not a problem.
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