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This topic is a large part of why my first surgery wasn't more successful. I was quite the party guy, hanging out with friends every weekend who drank lots of beer and ate snacks while shooting the breeze at the lake. Unfortunately six months or so after the sleeve I was able to train myself how to drink beer again, and also learned that most snack foods are "slider" foods. This stalled my weight loss at about 60% of my goal. The other thing I learned was that the restriction lessened over time. By five years out I was able to eat almost a regular plate of food. There was still restriction on solid protein (I could only eat about 4 oz of steak) but I could eventually add reasonable side dishes to it. I'd say before surgery I would eat a very large portion, while after I was able to eat a much smaller version of a normal plate of food. While most folks Thanksgiving plates were heaping masses of food, mine was a few ounces of turkey and an assortment of maybe an ounce of each item I wanted to try. I just did a revision to gastric bypass due to hiatal hernia and GERD, but i am looking at this as a second chance to get it right. Six years out from my first surgery my lifestyle has changed enough that not drinking, or only having an occasional glass of wine or cocktail, now is fine with me. Success with weight loss surgery truly does require lifestyle change. The sleeve or pouch is a tool. Its maximum benefits are the first year after surgery. It continues to be a tool after but without a change in lifestyle the benefits won't last forever.
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Gastric bypass and exhaustion
toodlerue replied to fourmonthspreop's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Those 1st couple of months can be rough! Your body is going through a MAJOR change! You should be focusing on protein & hydration. Sounds like you are achieving that. As you add more food consistency and are able to exercise more your energy will return. I could not get over how few calories I was consuming those first few weeks! Hang in there it will be worth it! -
Gastric bypass and exhaustion
The Greater Fool replied to fourmonthspreop's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Have you by chance had a not minor surgery on your stomach recently? I ask because such surgeries can be very stressful on both mind and body. It's common during such surgeries to have your body pumped full of drugs to both put you to sleep and wake you up, drugs to deaden pain, both fluids and gasses to make surgery manageable for the medical team. Then, there is the starvation diet most programs put the patients on in the weeks before and after surgery. You may not remember such a surgery. I know I slept straight through mine. If you've lost a couple days, surgery may just explain all of it. Be careful not to resume to much activity too quickly as it can over stress your system. Be both patient and persistent with yourself and you'll be back where you were in no time. In fact, once you get to consuming adequate calories you will again be exhibiting an abundance of energy with which to continue your binge walking/running. Good luck, Tek -
Hey guys, Just some details: I've only just met with the surgeon a couple weeks ago and am still completing my appointments and tests. I am female and currently weigh 375lbs and am 5'5. My surgeon said I would have great success with either sleeve or bypass with the bypass yielding most weightloss. I am still very unsure as to which one I want, but am leaning more towards the sleeve since the surgery doesn't seem as intense as bypass. I am nervous, however that I won't have significant weightloss with the sleeve since I am starting at such a high weight. I totally understand I will need to put in work for either one and everybody's body is different. Am I over concerned? Any thoughts or opinions? Thoughts on Sleeve vs. Bypass in terms of surgery and recovery? I truly appreciate any help and insight!
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Gastric bypass and exhaustion
DaisyAndSunshine replied to fourmonthspreop's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Of course that's bound to happen initially since we are surviving on extremely low calories first few weeks to a month post-Op. I have had bounts of low energy, fatique and lethargy on and off for the first 5 to 6 weeks. The first 2 or 3 weeks are the lowest given our body is recovering from a major shock. It gets better and it has for me. -
February 2022 Surgery Buddies
Living_My_Best_Life replied to MeganMyers's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hey there - I just want to share that I had the sleeve surgery on Feb. 1, and since starting the pre-op diet on Jan. 13, I’m down 33.7 pounds and down 16.4 pounds since the surgery. And this week, I’m officially down a clothing size from 18W pants to 16W, which feels great. I started the puréed food stage on Tuesday, and like many others have shared, I can definitely feel my restriction more than I could with full liquids. I’m still learning to slow down when I eat and to eat smaller bites so that I don’t feel an uncomfortable fullness sensation in my chest. Other than that, things are going really well. I hope others are doing well, too. -
I think you are going through this because food addiction! Remember we all had this done because face it we all have a food addiction! I hade a ruff first week seamed to level out better after that but it’s a daily challenge! My family all eats normal still I do find myself getting quite annoyed watching people eat , telling my kids to slow down a lot now! Realizing how much food they eat annoys me. I think I’m past all the sadness of not eating so much food ( because it is so good) but I go out to eat I eat till I’m full then either take the rest home or give it away there at the table to a starving teenager ( LOL) you got to really focus and change your relationship with food. I think you will be happy in the long run and one day when you have a baby in your arms it will make it all worth it! Hope your deans all come true! Focus on the why and you will succeed! My why is I want to be healthy and do stuff with my family and not be tired all the time! I’m down 40 lbs. in 2 months and I feel great!!
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I would say that's a "soft food", not a puree. So you may have to wait a couple more weeks.
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Anyone in MINNESOTA?
Dfidelman replied to suzannethemom's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Hi there from AV. I am going to Park Nicollet. I am still pre-op and hoping to hear good news this week to advance to all green lights for surgery. Are you excited? Nervous? -
I am reaching out to my life coach asap. I hope when getting my letters this week from my doctors as well that hopefully she will finally green light me in the meantime. Thank you guys so much for the help and insight its been wonderful and uplifting. *hugs*
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Any April 2021 surgeries?!
NurseShannon77 replied to KidaandRoux's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I’ve had a rough row to hoe since October. I wound up in an Ulcerative Colitis flare in October that lead into not one, but two hospitalizations with autoimmune pancreatitis. That’s been fun! Now I’m dealing with a possible ulcer in my pouch since I’m on steroids for the UC and I ran out of protonix two weeks ago and the OTC omeprazole isn’t nearly as good as the protonix. So my surgery weight was 251 pounds on 4/23/21. I’m down to 137-140 range. I like where I am and I want to maintain this weight. -
No to raw vegetables but yes to cooked ones. I was happy to start eating them again but my old favourites (asparagus, sugar snap peas, broccolini) didn’t taste good for a while. I used to eat two green beans or a dessertspoons of shredded cabbage or a small cauliflower floret. I also put a lot of vegetables in soups & casserole type dishes (carrots, onions, celery, tomato, mushrooms, capsicum, etc.) & after a couple of weeks omelettes. I could tolerate them better when cooked in with other things. 🤷🏻♀️ I still kept my proteins tender & moist so they weren’t too so they wouldn’t stick in my throat. I was able to eat most meats though some people struggle with chicken breast (try thigh) or steak for a little while. It was probably three months when I started putting pulses & lentils into soups & such but through my choice. I ate three meals & by week 8 a snack which was usually a high protein yoghurt/yoghurt drink. I remember some of my early lunches were a slice of smoked salmon, smeared with a little cream cheese wrapped around cucumber wedges (2in piece cut into quarters) or half a pork sausage (from a butcher not mass produced, highly processed) or some poached/steamed flaky white fish. Breakfast was rolled oats or scrambled eggs (took 3 days to eat 2 eggs). Dinner was usually meat & vegetables. The meat might be steak, lamb cutlet, chicken thigh, a meat ball, bolognese with zucchini noodles & meat & vegetable soups. Serves were all pretty small like a golf ball size meat ball. I’d dice my food as well so it would be small bites & used a teaspoon to eat for a few months until I graduated to a buffet fork (splade). And I’d use a small dish like a tapas bowl or ramekin or a side plate to serve the meal.
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I now eat salads vegetables I don't drink alcohol or fizzy drinks anymore cant stand the smell of alcohol don't eat much rice or pasta but can eat bread at a minimal I didn't have anything till I was 13 weeks out but feeling good that's the main thing
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You are definitely not alone in that, I stalled and battled those same exact lbs (250-255). I had an appt with my dietician who suggested I had finally hit the point of needing to add the gym in as my usual walking wasn’t working anymore. I’ve now dropped below 250 and broke my stall. Have you tried switching up your exercising?
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Hey there! You are not alone! I had surgery at the end of June and am down 59 lbs (which is great!) but having lots of stalls and losing very, very slowly. I am sticking to the plan, keeping calories no more than 1200 a day and exercising 30-60 minutes a day. I feel like I should be making more progress. Sigh.. I am just keeping to the plan and hoping it'll come off eventually. Congratulations on your 50lb loss!
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As regards raw veggies, my particular surgeon didn't include information about them anywhere on their food plan. The plan had me back on "normal foods" at 6-8 weeks, with long term restrictions on certain things like coffee, soda. So I wasn't sure when I was supposed to add them back. I was really craving raw veggies starting at 3-4 weeks out because I have always enjoyed them. I ended up trying salad type veggies at ~2 months post-op, and then added things like carrots, cucumbers over the next month with no problems. My post on this topic from the time is linked below. If you're just about to leave the soft food stage, it's probably too soon for raw veggies. But I think this may well be a good time to try some real meat and see how it sits with you - just cook it well, cut it up small, and start with a really small portion. Cooked veggies are also a good thing to add this stage. This was when I started to feel like I was really able to eat like a human being again.
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Anybody recently post op and healing?
Guest replied to fourmonthspreop's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
I wasn't given any pain meds. You need to drink drink drink and walk walk walk. You don't need to take vitamins for the first week and I'm not allowed to take any whole tablet/pill for the first month. I've been dissolving pills in water. I wish you luck - but I'm also here to tell you that 4 days out I felt like hell and 5 days out I felt much better and on day 6 I felt awesome and walked and walked. Don't stay inside. You need fresh air and sunlight on your face, if only for a short time. -
hormone issues are really common the first few weeks after surgery. I was post-menopausal when I had my surgery, so I have no experience with this myself, but a lot of women report having screwed up menstrual cycles when they're early out (and moodiness, too). It'll eventually stabilize.
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Granted I was given the 150 minutes a week to work out. sometimes I would do it all in one sitting and sometimes I would do it scattered throughout the week just kind of depended on the craziness of it all. Tbh, the part that baffles me the most is "intentionally working out". What does that mean? " you are active for the sake of fitness not because it is required but you want to for your health." Why else do it? lol Idk, I'm not active all the time and I am looking into a neurologist for spinal concerns before continuing my weight loss goals but I feel like all that I have done and on my own is a good sign I want this. I have been cleared from everything but psych by april may ish of last yr. I thought for sure I would have my surgery by the fall. My life coach even said with how fast you are making changes and showing improvement I would say by christmas you will be all good to go . then the Mental health stuff got in the way so I agreed to go through with it for less stress on myself and everyone else but also it was time to heal. now its months later and still waiting. As far as cost I have state insurance since most jobs I get doesn't seem to give benefits now days so they are paying it 100%. So needless to say I think reaching out to my amazing life coach and my nursing team may be the best way to go. Wish me luck you guys. Thank you so much for supporting me on this journey it has meant a lot. You have no idea how many eye rolls I get trying to prep people for what is to come. I love you guys so much. I look forward to going on this journey with you.
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I had my TT (muscle repair, no lipo*) on 1/10/22. Recovery was what I expected pain wise but not time wise. For some crazy reason I thought I would bounce back in a couple of weeks - NOPE! The first week I needed help doing everything (except wiping my hiney - thank God). The drains were removed on day 8 which did not come quickly enough. I haven't had any major complications, just a minor (small hematoma) that resolved on its own. I'm still a bit tender but I can now sneeze/laugh/cough without my eyes tearing up. My scar is healing ahead of schedule (per surgeon). I tried silicone tape (week 3) but it made me itch so I just massage my scar with coconut oil daily but I do forget some days. I will be having scar revision in the future but that was always part of the plan. I have a high belly button and I also had a tattoo around my belly button. Not one of my smartest moves but what can I say, I was 20 something at the time. My surgeon does not make "T" incisions due to blood supply concerns. Also, since the entire tattoo could not be removed, I didn't want a totally distorted tattoo. So my scar at this time is higher than both he and I would prefer. The scar revision is an office procedure with local anesthesia so I didn't object. I chose to "stage" my lipo after my tummy tuck. I'm scheduled for lipo on 2/28/22. Why you may ask. I'm having multiple sites done (knees, inner thighs, saddle bags, and flanks). By doing it in "stages" the lipo of the flanks can be more "aggressive" than if I had it with the TT.
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February 2022 Surgery Buddies
.Annabelle replied to MeganMyers's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hi guys. I am scheduled for gastric bypass on February 28th in Iowa. I have been on liver reducing diet since this past Monday and next week start my liquid only diet. Is anyone else having surgery the same week as me? I need a surgery buddy! -
My dietician says these are slider foods. Cake, biscuits, sweets, ice cream, mashed potato. At 5 weeks I could eat tiny slivers of hard cheese, Things on tiny pieces of melba toast like egg mayo, tuna mayo, pate. Cream cheese with a crisp breadstick, Cauliflower cheese, instant porridge and homemade veg soup with cheese stirred in
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with the lack of hunger thing - take FULL advantage of that ! Your hunger will eventually come back (mine came back at five months out), and things got A LOT harder after that. It's so much easier to stick to the plan and lose weight quickly when you're never hungry and don't give a flip about food! So I personally would not cave and start eating fast food. Just eat according to your plan. it sounds like you're craving the fast food for emotional reasons - so I agree with others - find yourself a therapist who deals with bariatric patients or other eating disorders. If your clinic doesn't have one on staff, ask for a referral. the depression thing is common for the first few weeks after surgery because your hormones go haywire. Just hang in there...they'll settle back down again...
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I was allowed to take any pill the size of a pencil eraser or smaller - which for me was all but two pills (the giant calcium tablets - and one other that I cant' remember). So I got chewable calcium - and the PA at my clinic said I could hold off for a couple of weeks on the other one. Ta da! I never had to crush pills. So maybe ask your clinic?
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I wouldn't be doing raw veggies just yet, take it slow. Something you will be able to eat fine and others not so good. with the not so good ones try again in a couple of weeks it can take up to 6 months to be able to eat "anything". I tried to have something new each day didn't always turn out good keep your portions small and chew really well. My team said the 20, 20 ,20 rule. chew 20 times, wait 20 seconds for the next bite and stop eating after 20 mins so what you didn't eat in 20 mins that's it no more. mind you I break that rule all the time especially if it something yummy. what you eat is up to you obviously dont go back to your old unhealthy habits. A good go to for me was cruskits with tuna mixed with mayo. I still have it now if i am not sure what i feel like but need to eat something. steak and salad is a favourite of mine now. omelettes are another good option in the early days
