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I want to be 100% honest here because I need some straight answers & I want all the support I can get through this process. I have been in recovery from drugs and alcohol for a little over two years now. I take my recovery very seriously & want to protect it. I have recently been told that there is a high rate of relapse in recovering people who get weight loss surgery because they can't use food to comfort themselves anymore. Has anyone else had any experience with this issue. Please share with me. I want a happy healthy life free from addictions. Id you are in recovery, how did you cope?
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I Definitely Regret Surgery.... So Far!
jasleeve replied to jasleeve's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
well if i was regretting surgery before... IM DEFINITELY regretting it now! they found a leak last week. i was discharged after 6 days. they placed a stent which is painful. the acid is the worse!!!!! i dont know wdf to do!!!! seriously. my throat feels like its pouring alcohol on an open cut. im on 20mg of omeprazole 2x a day. i dont know how much more of this i can take! -
today was my first day home & i really wish i wouldve stayed in the hospital. i just finished throwing up and its so disgusting & burns so bad!!!! im actually mad that i pushed to go home so bad! i shouldve stayed. this morning i found out my prescription portion of my insurance was not active so i couldnt get my meds until just a few mins ago. when i say nightmare, im talking about nightmare!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the acid is like triple & burns so bad that it feels like someone is pouring alcohol on an open cut. i dont wish this on my worst enemy. i just really wish i could go back to normal. this is just crazy!!!! :'(
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Can A True Addict Succeed With The Lap Band?
Jean McMillan replied to bev712's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Drug addiction is considered a contraindication for bariatric surgery. Success with the band especially requires the patient to take personal responsibility for their eating and exercise behavior. Based on decades of experience with my brother's drug addiction (painkillers), personal responsibility is not in addicts' vocabulary. I feel empathy for your friend because I struggle with my own addiction (food), but it seems to me that she's got to prioritize her issues, put the drug thing on the top of the list, deal with that and stay clean for a year or so before she tackles the obesity issue. My fear for her would be that if she had WLS and was no longer able to turn to food for comfort, stress, etc., she would end up going back to some kind of chemical addiction. On a more practical level, drug & alcohol addiction do a number on the addict's liver. Part of the liver lies on top of the area on the stomach where the band is attached, so the surgeon has to be able to handle it safely. If it's enlarged or diseased, the patient's surgery is much more risky. -
Personally I have found that there are two groups of people here. Not saying one is right or better, I've just noticed two trains of thought. The first is people who are desirous to mold their life around their sleeve. The others are desirious to mold the sleeve around their life. The problem is that some from each group think that their position is the only "right" one. I craved "fast food" when I was first able to have real food. I headed for In-n-Out and got a Protein burger (a burger without a bun). I had that and some fries. It was good. But it hasn't appealed to me since. pizza on the other hand... I have about once a week. I also go out for mexican about once a week-I don't do the chips and slasa anymore. Nor do I eat the tortillas. There is no where that says we can't have fast food during the losing part of our program. I think with thoughtful choices or small portions almost nothing should be "forbidden" I have seen others post about how they chose this tool so that they would not have to be on a "diet" the rest of their lives. I have seen people who post that they still drink soda or alcohol. If that is how they choose to work their program than that is their choice. I opersonally choose to have a dessert almost everynight. A piece of chocolate, a scoop of ice cream whatever. I try to keep it around 100 calories. I figure that that means I will lost about 1 pound less each month. I can live with that. I figure I will be eating this way the rest of my life, so for me I chose to work my sleeve around my life. that being said-I have also decided that my purpose is not just to lose weight but to get healthier-So in addition to eating less, I am working on incorporating "clean" foods into my life. So that will seriously limit my fast foods in the future. But considereing pre-op I ate out about twice a day, I think my twice a week now is a big change already. So Rico-you have to decide about fast food-and if you choose wisely you don't HAVE to wait until you reach goal.
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Vodka mixed with some crystal light! (I order vodka on the rocks...water, no ice and take a crystal light packet with me) It's good and it will make about 3-4 drinks easily! Wine does very well for me still and it's my favorite but I'm not planning on drinking hard alcohol anymore. I get wasted so quick, it's horrible! I cannot handle it and I'm still over 200 lbs.
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I'm 10 months post-op, down 55kg and obviously eating much smaller portions. Alcohol does affect me much more quickly than before. I won't drive now after even just one drink because I really have no sense of BAC. Fortunately (for me) I don't drink a lot because it interferes with dancing!
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Hey you guys...
ouroborous replied to LilMissDiva Irene's topic in Weight Loss Surgery Success Stories
Yeah, I've learned (the hard way) to limit alcohol intake since the sleeve. Among other things, these days I'm a light weight -- literally! -
Co-Worker Wants To Have Lap Band
running_scared replied to blondiepierce's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
A friend of mine is getting banded a few weeks after mine. We got together to talk about it, but I'm worried that he isn't going to be able to make those changes as well. He likes to drink a lot, which is where a lot of his weight comes from. He said that he lied to the doctor about his alcohol consumption, and he doesn't plan to tell him about it. -
Lynnette, If you are a medical professional like myself, you can do your own fills but the preferred method is having another medical professional do it for you. Theres no reason for al the slander you are getting from everyone & actually I find it extremely immature. We are all adults on this site & if we don't agree with what you are doing then no one needs to reply, I mean really people???!!! After all you are going to do what you want to do anyway. Having said that, please please please make sure you re-sterilize that needle each & every time you use it. You can boil the needle for a good 5 mins then let it air dry on a clean surface(wiped with alcohol is good NO BLEACH). I wish you didn't have to do this & I wish you the best. Understand if you don't use sterile technique you can get your port infected which can run up your tubing & eventually get to your band itself so please proceed with extreme caution. I know people who got banded in Mexico & what they have had to do is basically lie telling the new doctor that the one who originally did it is no longer doing it or is not available for your schedule. I'm not condoning lieing or stealing or self-medicating but I do understand its going to happen. Good luck!!
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Try smelling rubbing alcohol when nauseous and when there are smells around the house you don't like. Actually smell it once in a while, even when you are feeling ok. A nurse recommended this at the hospital and it made me feel much better. I still do it if I overeat. Also, as unpleasant as suppositories can be, they worked better for me than pills. I couldn't imagine swallowing a pill and feeling nauseous at the same time. Lastly, at the hospital it was recommended that I sip 3 times out of a 1 ounce cup, but I had to sip 6 times for a week or two. We are not all the same. If all else fails, call your doctor again and speak up. You are your best advocate. Make them listen to you. Be ready to explain exactly how many ounces you have drank in X number of days or hours and everything you are doing to help the process along. Best wishes!
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I have the most amazing friend. She was so excited and open and told everyone about her decision to get her sleeve. It was because of her courage and strength that I have decided to embark on my own journey. I will be meeting with the surgeon in a few weeks and I am so excited, ready to embark on the road to a healthier me. I even found out my insurance does cover it!!! That said the one thing that I have struggled with is deciding if I was going to tell everyone or not. My husband is very supportive and so is my awesome friend, but after a lot of thought I have decided I am not telling anyone, with the exception of some friends and anyone I meet or know that is struggling with obesity themselves. My MIL is a nurse and she will not be supportive and I know she will say I need to do it on my own as she did 30 years ago. When I mentioned my friend having surgery all she said was "well...you have to be careful so many of them become alcoholics, or shopping addicts, I see them all the time at work" . Mind you I wasn't saying I was thinking about it or anything. She also talks about everything and everyone, not in a harmful way at all, she is not mean spirited, but is always talking about various peoples health and medical issues ect. After discussing this with my husband I have decided to not tell my in laws or anyone in his family. This is a very personal choice and I feel I want to keep it private. I wish I too could scream it from the mountain tops like my friend, but I fear that any form of negativity will keep me from being successful. Am I a coward??? :confused5:
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I had the same thing happen to me just a few days after being sleeved - I had taken a dose of liquid Nyquil (which ALWAYS works great for me) before realizing it has alcohol in it and that it probably wasn't a good idea... but on my one week post op visit with my surgeon I asked him about it, and he said it's totally fine to still take it. Hope you start feeling better soon!
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Alcohol After 6 Weeks Out?
elise replied to shannonbcaldwell's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I tried about 2 oz of wine at 6 weeks out and tolerated it well. I am now at 8 weeks out and enjoy about 3-4 oz of wine every once in a while. Hard liquor, has higher alcohol content will make you a "cheap drunk" as my surgeon would say. A little goes a long way. I tried but it burned too much on the way down, so I don't think I'm ready for it yet. Carbonated alcohol drinks (and non- alcoholic) are also a no-no for at least 6 months. They expand the stomach, and can stretch it. Healing continues for a long time and you don't want to chance a leak. From what others had mentioned on this site, Treat yourself with a small drink when you reach a goal you've set for yourself. Eventually you will be able to have a little more,but, alcohol are empty calories. They can slow down your weight loss. Keep that in mind too. -
Alcohol After 6 Weeks Out?
Capt Derel replied to shannonbcaldwell's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Ahhh.. No one knows. Mystery to be solved. Maybe since your bodies are in a catabolic state your liver has an increased working load due to the fact that its processing and burning up your body's own fats rather just storing them. Alcohol consumption would increase its load and which may cause harm to the liver itself.. From a doctors perspective- Why create a problem too soon Yay go me (null) -
Alcohol After 6 Weeks Out?
Amanda 3.0 replied to shannonbcaldwell's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
What does your surgeon's office suggest? I am coming up on six weeks. My surgeon said it was fine for me to have small amounts of alcohol, and to just take it slow to find my tolerance and most importantly, be sure not to get sick. I had about two ounces of wine over dinner tonight. Dinner lasted over an hour. Vodka with some V-8, or even better, Snap E. Tom, is a nice drink for me. I never drank that combination before. I just sip it so slowly. I feel a slight effect from the alcohol, but it doesn't put me over the edge like it does some people. Of course, like I always say, call your surgeon's office and see what they say. -
Alcohol After 6 Weeks Out?
doggz109 replied to shannonbcaldwell's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Yes it is silly to even consider it. Do not drink any alcohol six weeks out. -
Alcohol After 6 Weeks Out?
Lissa replied to shannonbcaldwell's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Shannon, I waited until 2 weekends ago for my first adult beverage. It went down fine. I have no idea if I got tipsy faster than before because I might drink six drinks a year. I'd be more worried about the tomato juice than the vodka, though. I still can't handle tomato juice at 5 months out. It makes me really gassy. My doc recommends waiting six months to a year for alcohol. Six weeks might be a tad early for alcohol, so, if you are going to drink, take small sips and wait a few minutes before the next, just like you would do with any new food or liquid. Good luck!! -
I eat nuts and popcorn sometimes. They are not slider foods for me as they fill me up pretty quick. I have to make sure I chew them well or they will cause discomfort. I drink a glass of wine several times per week, but didn't have any alcohol for the first 6 months.
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Alcohol After 6 Weeks Out?
Indymom replied to shannonbcaldwell's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I feel the effects of alcohol more quickly than I did before surgery, but I also sober up more quickly. Not sure why from a chemistry perspective, but that's what I have noticed. I waited until I was about 3-4 months out from surgery (my doc recommended between 3-6 months before drinking) and I do it rarely due to the empty calories. I think the liver thing has to do with your liver being strained during the weight loss process . . . if your liver is already working hard during weight loss, excessive drinking can put extra strain on it. I don't know all the particulars, though. -
Alcohol After 6 Weeks Out?
So Cal Kurt replied to shannonbcaldwell's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I am sure it has to do with body mass. I was probably down 70 lbs from 300 when I took my first drink. I doubt the alcohol is metabolized any differently. Perhaps in RNY patients there is some kind of difference do to absorbtion but I doubt there is any difference in sleevers. I am sitting at 185 now, 40% less body mass than when I started. My triglycerides were 63 (normal is less than 150) when I had them taken 3 weeks ago. That is the biggest indicator of alcolol induced liver problems. -
Alcohol After 6 Weeks Out?
ocean_ophelia replied to shannonbcaldwell's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I am wondering the same thing. I am in the medical field, and that makes no sense that the liver would react differently to a larger vs. smaller stomach. Alcohol passes from the stomach and intestines into the blood. It is then metabolized by enzymes in the liver. That process doesn't change. -
Alcohol After 6 Weeks Out?
Joiebean replied to shannonbcaldwell's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Can someone explain this a little further? Other than the fact that we don't have as much food as we previously did to soak up the alcohol, how is it different on the body once you are healed? (I might be missing the obvious here....wouldn't be the first time -
You can eat them but you need to be careful. I would consider both of these to be slider foods i.e foods that go down easily which the band does not limit you from eating. Whilst nuts are good for you they are still high in fat and calories so should only be consumed in small quantities. Alcohol can be consumed but again it is full of empty calories. You may find that it affects you quicker as well as you won't have as much food in your stomach to help slow down its affects.My practice encourages a glass of wine over other types of alcohol as wine does supposedly have some health benefits.
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Alcohol After 6 Weeks Out?
So Cal Kurt replied to shannonbcaldwell's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Remember, alcohol is empty calories. I have drinks a few times a month (serious karaoke junkie) and have since I was a few months out. You need to remember that you will get hit hard and fast now. I drink bourbon on the rocks, have no problems but know when enough is enough. I am usually good for 2 or 3 at best in a 4 hour span (my local dive pours very heavy).
