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Is Sleeving the easy way out?
HoosierGirl replied to bikermike5094's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Having the sleeve is easy like having a mastectomy is the easy way out of breast cancer or not drinking is the cure for alcoholism. The sleeve is simply a surgery...it's only one part of curing obesity. -
My incisions are itching like crazy
erp replied to HeatherRad's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Do you have steri strips still on? OMG that adhesive itched so bad! Rubbing alcohol helped remove the residue and calm the itch. -
I've done a low carb/high protein/high healthy fat diet for my entire six-month insurance-required nutrition program. I've over 90 pounds doing it. I keep my carbs under 20 per day (and under 15 most days). I have whittled from 2000 calories down through 1800 and 1500 to about 1200 calories per day for the past few months. I have cut out alcohol, only because at my calorie-level, I just can't justify using up any calories that won't provide some nutritional value. It has worked super well for me. My surgery is two weeks from tomorrow, and I am gunning for 100 pounds down when they wheel me into the OR. Good luck!
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Hi! I’m having surgery January 16th too. I am on liquids, Protein Shakes and specific veggies only. Anyone else? I am so glad this was required. I also have been off of all alcohol and on a restricted diet for the last 2 months. Here we go gang! I’m excited!
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Mentally preparing for Girl Scout Cookie sales which start tomorrow in my neighborhood
BayougirlMrsS replied to trekker954's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
@@Malin You are not alone..... I would have boxes stashed all over.... couple at work, in the top of my closet, on the top of the kitchen cabinets...But the best place... Laundry room, no one ever went in there but me... hehe It was bad... i was like an alcoholic stashing bottles. -
help! less than 3 weeks away from surgery, STILL undecided!
920amy replied to Lee 316's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
You are asking us to tell you if it's worth it, I think all of us post-op will resoundingly say, yes, it was worth it for us. The questions you might actually be asking yourself is Are you ready? The things you are worrying about are really minor when compared to the more energy, the better health, the longer life you might live because of the surgery, in my opinion. Also, I don't want to sound like a negative nelly, but it sounds like your worries may be hiding some deeper issues for you. Have you talked to your Psychiatrist about these fears? For many of us, it's an 'easy' road, but there are those out there also who have suffered complications, and their journey is different, and more difficult. The truth is, eventually you will be able to eat your favorite foods again, you will be able to drink alcohol, and if you want, you can drink while you eat. The other half of that coin is our favorite foods probably contributed to how we got to where we needed surgery in the first place, alcohol is a lot of empty calories, and sadly some people find it too easy to trade their food addiction for alcoholism, and drinking while you eat fills you up faster, makes your food digest faster, so you are hungrier sooner, and can make you really uncomfortable, and possible cause you to vomit. Having the sleeve is not like a magic pill. It doesn't make you skinny automatically, it is a great tool for encouraging you to make better choices, but if you're afraid of those better choices before you get the tool, you might not know how to use it once you get it, and that could make you more miserable. I don't think anyone can answer for you if it's worth it, because only you know yourself, but do be sure that you know yourself enough to know you are ready and can face the challenges, because this is a change for the rest of your life, it's not reversable, and yes, you will have to make sacrifices. I hope you can do some soul searching. Good luck on whatever you decide. -
Breads will be a big problem most likely for now on. I'm four months out and can only eat a half a slice of toast. I did try a piece of bread at dinner one night and I felt like I was going to throw up for about two hours afterwards. Anyways, you really want to stay away from the high carb foods like breads and potatoes and even alcohol. I knew this was a sacrifice I had to make when I went with this surgery.
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Yes you can, but remember, just because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD. In moderation, once in a while, those are words to live by....I seldom eat bread, hardly ever at home, I don't eat sandwiches at home.....I can eat a fourth of a med sized baked potato. I use Greek yogurt as sour cream and a little butter, very little. I don't want to fill up on potato ever, we need Protein. Alcohol, I was at goal, past goal.....and about 17 months out before I had a White Russian or glass of Sangria. There is a place here in Dallas called Which Wich.....I can eat one third of a 7" sub from there, maybe a tiny bit more....that's it. I'm full, satisfied and to tell you the truth, I never feel deprived. I split a piece of pumpkin bread from Star Bucks with my husband. The difference is this, I am aware of EVERYTHING I put in my mouth. After having 85% of my tummy removed, no mindless eating for me.
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YOU BETCHA! I was 3 months out when I had my first alcoholic beverage and coffee. I'm out 3 years now and basically eat and drink whatever i want, including sodas (diet of course). But the only thing you will NOT be able to do is overeat (pigout) like before. And that is all well worth it. . . so don't freak out, time will get you there and then you'll smile at your question. . . but dont worry. . . life is good and your going to love it! good luck
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Long Term Health Issues With The Sleeve
psis replied to scarlet333's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Cancer---my father had a partial gastrectomy for ulcers in 1972. (This was before they knew it was from H pylori and could be treated with antibiotics). NOW in 2013 at the age of 81 he has been diagnosed with gastric cancer. The remaining stomach was removed except a 5% pocket at the top. I found out that "previous gastric surgery" was one of his risk factors for development of stomach cancer when I was researching his diagnosis. THAT WAS 41 yrs from surgery to cancer. During that time, he has lead an active life....41 years worth. I made the decision to have my VSG after his diagnosis.....and no I was not afraid of gastric cancer. I was afraid of having a heart attack, stroke, diabetes etc....from my obesity. That would kill me sooner than the gastric cancer. I am sure the bariatric surgery community has ongoing studies on the long term effects of VSG. Unfortunately, we won't know those results for many years as the early sleevers start to show these effects. In life, we all make choices that may have long term effects on our health. That is why ANY decision we make concerning our health matters. Be it smoking, alcohol, drugs.....and yes food. It is an individual decision. -
the sticky stuff is annoying! i got most of it off (not the stuff right around the incision still too tender) with a little bit of rubbing alcohol on a cotton ball...did the trick! i felt so dirty...and hated having my hubby see it
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Major Changes Are Frightening...
catwoman7 replied to LizzLosingIt's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
you'll eventually be able to have some of that again. It's really the first few weeks and months that are pretty restrictive. I'm quite a ways out and really don't have any restrictions anymore and haven't in a long time (by this I mean restrictions placed on me by my surgeon - those were all eventually lifted). At this point it comes down to what my stomach can tolerate. I can drink alcohol again, but I really limit it. I have a glass of wine maybe three or four times a year - but some patients drink more than that. As for carbonation, some surgeons want you to give it up forever - others are OK with it once you're a few months out as long as your stomach can tolerate it (my stomach doesn't tolerate it well so I avoid it - but some people are fine with it). I can't really do much pasta since it sits in my stomach like a ton of bricks, but to be honest, it's been so long that I don't miss it. I've had it occasionally since I've been in maintenance, but I don't eat more than about 1/2 C. I could drink full fat milk if I wanted to, although I'm not a milk drinker. I eat full fat yogurt fairly often, though. You're right about eating what and when you want to, though - there's too much of a risk of putting the weight back on if you do that. I do mostly eat what I want to now - but I monitor myself all the time to make sure it's within reason. The last thing I want is to gain all the weight back (or really, ANY weight!!) anyway, I think a lot of us had those feelings before surgery - but at some point restrictions will loosen up quite a bit and things will seem more normal. P.S. about life never being the same - well in many ways, you're right. I can do things now that I haven't been able to do in years. I no longer sit around worrying that I'm going to have a heart attack and/or never live to see my 60th birthday. I don't worry that I'll get kicked off planes for being too fat or that I'll break furniture. I never get stared at in public places or have to endure nasty comments from kids (and sometimes adults) about my weight. I just blend right into the crowd now!! I also don't have to deal with people giving me "the look" when I'm eating in public, or people looking in my grocery cart at the store (to see what morbidly obese people eat, I guess....). I LOVE my new life and I never, ever want to go back to where I was!! -
Alcohol
Martha Parker-mcneal replied to danaymacklin's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
most drs say one year. no carbonation so no beer. the real risk is that you become drunk faster and the long term risk of transferring the food addection to that of alcoholism. -
My bariatric book advises not to drink alcohol for a year. My sister who had the surgery 4 years ago said she doesn't recall waiting a year and more than likely didn't. Just wondering if you all waited a year or how long you waited AND how you felt after vs. before? I hear you become intoxicated fairly quick. Thx! Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
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just think this way...your new stomach its the size of a baby stomach... would you give alcohol to a baby... ??? BariatricMatters
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As everyone says every doctor is different. Mine says never to drink alcohol again. His partner in practice says wait a year then only drink red wine 1-2oz a month. I drank often before surgery (2-3 drinks fridays and Saturdays ) and had to stop a month before surgery. So far it's been 2 months since I've had a drink and I don't miss it. But the social component of it makes it hard not to crave a drink. HW 283. SW265. SD 3/22/13! CW 247
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Naw I’m an alcoholic.. I’m an idiot.. yes I can wait 6 weeks I can wait a year I can wait 2 years i simply asked a question to see if anyone did it I’m so sorry that i offended anyone this app is the stupidest thing
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I'm about the same spot. The only issues that I have had, was if I ate to big of bite or eat too quickly. Haven't tried alcohol yet and made it a goal to stay off for a year. I can pretty much eat what I want, but am still eating a lot of "soft" foods. Eggs though still kinda give me a problem if they aren't cooked just right.
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DH not 100% with me.
enterprise01 replied to demsvmejm's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
First of all, it completely pisses me off when someone tries to compare quitting smoking (or alcohol or drugs) to losing weight. You can go the rest of your life without a cigarette (or a beer or a hit of cocaine) and be just fine, but the same is not true of food. (Don't let your husband compare your failures with weight loss to your failures with quitting smoking -- they are separate issues -- one is a psychological addiction and the other is a physical addiction.) And you have to have food. Unlike other addiction recovery programs that promote total abstinence, with food you have to learn moderation. Well, that's damn hard to do when you feel ravenously hungry. That's where the band comes in. It is a tool to help control your appetite. Second, using his mother as an example is unfair. Someone who gains 30 lbs once and then diets and exercises and keeps it off is not someone who has a chronic weight problem. It's just not the same. Period. My boyfriend had exactly the same responses as your husband. Why can't you just diet and exercise? Well, I can diet and exercise for about 3-4 months, but then my appetite gets the best of me and I start overeating again. My boyfriend is a cop and was in the Army for 23 years. He's the perfect example of self-discipline, so he cannot understand why I'm the way I am. I've told him point blank that I have very little self-discipline and self-control, and that an intelligent person recognizes her shortcomings and seeks the appropriate help with deal with her problems. When I explained to him that the band is tool to help bolster my self-control, he was marginally better with the whole idea. Fortunately, we have not co-mingled our finances, so he could not make an issue of the money. I basically told him that I'm going to do what I want to do, and he can either support me or not. And, yes, some people do fail with the band. But at least with the band, you have a chance. I know that going back to just plain dieting and exercising would not work. It hasn't worked for the past 25 years, so why would it work this time? I need more help than Weight Watchers or Jenny Craig or any of the other programs can give me. Our history of repeated failures with dieting is evidence that we need to do something different. Don't let your husband bully you into not doing this. -
When can I have wine? Lol
MissLiss replied to FlabbyNat's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
There are plenty of threads on here that talk about this...the soonest in I've seen is 8 weeks with doctor's permission for a special occasion. I am curious as well. What I am interested in is - aside from the accelerated affect of alcohol - what are the true risks? The things I have seen alluded to - by my interpretation- and I am not 100% sure is 1) the stomach itself remains swollen for 4-5 weeks? 2) subjecting the stomach to anything so harsh so early is a risk of ulcer? 3) Of course, extra un needed calories as well as poor decision making I would love to hear the specifics- I always operate better with the facts. I have decided to wait at least 8 weeks and to discuss it with my doctor before doing anything. I do know there are people who enjoy drinks every week on here - and I have a regular night out that I would like a glass of wine also- but for now tea, decaf lattes, etc are doing just fine for me. -
Anxiety in life, risk for alcoholism and risk of anorexia, there will not be comfort in food anymore so they need to check that you are otherwise comforted. Sent from my SM-G550T using the BariatricPal App
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Banded this A.M. - A Great Experience!
Uncle Ted replied to Uncle Ted's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Band-plus-10 days and I think I'm ahead of the curve (thanks doc!). I've been able to eat some things I maybe shouldn't have but what's a guy to do? Went to a Seahawks game, went out a bunch of other times during the holiday break... ugh! I busted most every rule we're supposed to follow during this period (alcohol, solids) but seem to have gotten away with it as I'm down 11 lbs. Now that partytime is through I'll be better. Although I've yet to experience some of the bad symptions (nausea, vomiting) I think I've been close to being stuck. Things like greek yogurt have a way of piling up if not eaten very carefully. I can tell I'm going to miss eating haystacks of food but I suppose so long as I'm full I can handle it. Restaurant bills ought to be less cringeworthy from now on! Today I'm starting some light work on the treadmill - maybe 20 minutes of uphill walking. I'll wait a few weeks to hit the weights but am looking forward to coming home from the gym and not having to eat pails of spaghetti to feel satisfied. At least I hope that's how it will go. -
The no carbonation rule is due to the fact that carbonation can cause discomfort in sleeved patients. Definitely avoid it while your stomach is healing. After that, you can try it and see how you feel. Some people on these forums drink carbonated beverages every day. I personally haven't felt the need to, so I avoid them still, though I have had a couple of beers with no I'll effect, other than getting sloppy drunk off of one beer now. I was allowed alcohol at 3 months. Don't have it often because I am such a lightweight now. I was allowed caffeine at 30 days post-op. Every surgeon has their own guidelines there. Definitely high Protein diet forever. That doesn't necessarily mean low carb. Some people are more sensation to carbs than others, so you will have to figure out what works for you long term. I personally never tried to stay below a certain number of carbs, but I found that getting all my protein in (100 grams a day) left little room for carbs.
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I had no pre op diet three years ago. Non alcoholic fatty liver disease is quite common when we are obese and the liver enzymes are elevated. Unlike some of the things that get better immediately (diabetes, blood pressure) it can actually get worse before it gets better for the reasons stated above--the liver is taxed during weight loss. My liver is only now starting to normalize at three years out! Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
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Lacking the motivation to even walk...
sleevedshereen replied to sleevedshereen's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
@BigViffer lol thanks for the info. Sounds pretty accurate. I don't drink alcohol though. Too scared to since surgery lol. I'm one month post op as of yesterday and I lost almost 20lbs since surgery, the additional 6 lbs was pre-op a day before surgery. 20 lbs seems like the norm for weight loss after one month. I walked a lot this weekend on a mini vacay I took and yesterday even though I got home from work super late and was tired as f*ck I still went for a 30 minute walk. I'm trying, but the weight is barely going down. I just need to be patient. I don't think I'm eating enough either though. Wake up - on my way to work drink 8 oz of fluids Get to work - greek yogurt snack - either spoon of peanut butter or a string cheese lunch - a piece of chicken or protein shake snack - spoon of peanut butter dinner - yesterday I had a couple pieces of salami and cheese and like 3 olives I can't eat much more than that...mleh that's pretty bad eating habits huh?
