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This diet seems like BS and I am pouting
BLERDgirl replied to forgetit's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
@@forgetit - I'm sorry that's not what I meant to say. My point is your conversations & meeting with your surgeon or nutritionist need to be a give and take, an actual conversation or discussion about what works for you and your body specifically. My program gave us a manual to follow. Yes it had general guidelines for all bariatric pts, but when I meet with the nutritionist I then discussed with her what would work for me. I am vegetarian and have several food allergies. I can't have artificial food dyes or most artificial sweeteners. My food plan took that into account. On a message board such as this you will a million different answers based on the wide variety of programs out there. When I recommend someone ask their doctor or nutritionist, I mean take the same questions you are posing here and ask them. Let the professional explain their reasoning. The all liquids phase is tough for most of us. Not much to do there but grin and bear it. I did find that using unflavored Protein powder helped. I did 2 shakes and the had vegetable broth with unflavored Protein Powder in the evenings. I hit my protein goals but having that savory broth in the evenings made things a little bearable. Lastly if you are already on a PPI you may need to increase the dosage. It's not unusual. I started at 20 mgs and had to go up to 40 mgs to get relief. pastas, rice and breads? A year out I don't eat them much and honestly, I don't want them. On the occasion I do have Pasta unless it's in vegetable Soup or something, it's bean base pasta. When I have rice, it's black, or brown. Hang in there. The early days are a challenge but worth the struggle. -
Dangerous Diet Tip #4: Salads: Your Weight Loss Staple.
BLERDgirl replied to Elizabeth Anderson RD's topic in Weight Loss Surgery Magazine
As a vegetarian in my prep-op life I strived for 50 grams of protein on a 1200 - 1500 calorie a day diet. I never did much else with the micros except make sure I didn't go over MFP default settings. Sodium was the only one I manually set to a lower rate. I was thinking I would just go back to those levels once I reached maintenance. However I think I could manage 60 grams of protein. I knew too much protein was hard on the kidneys. That's part if the reason WLS patients need regular blood work. -
Dangerous Diet Tip #4: Salads: Your Weight Loss Staple.
VSGAnn2014 replied to Elizabeth Anderson RD's topic in Weight Loss Surgery Magazine
@@lauraellen80 ... I agree that nutritional guidelines widely available are confusing. There are major points of disagreement between (1) standard nutritional advice (which I figure is what certified nutritionists dispense), (2) Atkins / low carb lifestyle eating advice, and (3) other plans like Paleo, vegetarian, and vegan. This morning I did some online research and learned that standard nutritional guidelines generally advise that healthy women should eat daily: 60 grams of Protein 170 grams of carbohydrates 70 grams of fat 2,000 calories 4-5 cups of vegetables and fruits (yeah, I'm working on that ... ) I also read (on various sites -- and I'm reporting ONLY that I've read this, not that I'm a nutritional researcher who's done any actual research) that too much protein in one's diet can be tough on kidneys, liver, bones, cause cancer, feed yeast overgrowth, cause dehydration, degrade brain functions, and God knows what else. There's so much emphasis after WLS on eating such a big proportion of protein during the losing phases that this focus carries over to maintenance. I've seen so many posts by WLS patients who report they're maintaining their weight loss (after losing all their excess weight) by continuing to eat high protein / low carb diets. And when anyone gains weight, the greatest proportion of advice given online is to "eat low-carb!" And, of course, no one is advising us to eat sugar and lots of starchy foods, but eating 4-5 cups of vegetables and fruits is surely harder for sleeved patients. At least, that's how I feel at 14.5 months post-op. Maybe I'll find eating 4-5 cups of veggies / fruits a day easier as the years roll on. ??? -
I'm vegetarian with aims to go vegan. I barely like the idea that I currently eat eggs and dairy. Eating actual animal flesh is out of the question. I'm also deathly allergic to all seafood . I used to eat sushi, but only the vegetarian options. Sashimi is also a giant no go.
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Ideas for ready made stuff I can buy to eat?
BLERDgirl replied to wagyu's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
I'm deathly allergic to all seafood and have been known to have reactions to strong airborne smells. I'm also vegetarian so I'm probably not one to ask for recipes, but I would think anything that could be made in a crockpot could be made in this. I've had my eye on it for a while but haven't bought it yet. You could try Eggface or even pinterest for healthy crockpot meals. -
Tired of Answering the Same Questions Over and Over? - Help Requested for Solution!
BLERDgirl replied to tcrehm's topic in WLS Veteran's Forum
Special diets: Lactose/dairy allergies Vegetarian diets Organic options There was a very good article posted a few months back about what to look for when choosing a program, particularly taking after care into consideration. Here's my other question: How do we encourage people to check the FAQs or do a search before asking a question? From what I see a lot of the redundancy comes from people logging on and instead of searching, just posting their question or concern. -
Ideas for ready made stuff I can buy to eat?
Ashlegal replied to wagyu's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
You will ultimately need to learn how to prepare food for yourself. It will support the success of your weight loss. Pre-packaged food often comes with loads of calories, hidden sugars, a high fat content and a lot of carbs. Youtube has a plethora of instruction videos, Pinterest has a ton of recipes that take you step-by-step through the recipe and many times local libraries or community colleges will have free or low cost cooking classes. Yes, supporting this decision will take a huge amount of dedication. Like many people the reason why they are obese is the types of foods they ate. A lot of those food selections were made based on ease, convenience, taste and affordability. It is a habit that needs to be changed or their success will be derailed. It is just the reality of having WLS. Aside from that pep-talk there are options. Many have already been mentioned but I'd like to add a few. Deli made chicken salad. You have to be careful as a lot of places use a Miracle Whip type dressing and not a Mayo based one. You can always ask before you buy. Many grocers will offer already shredded rotisserie chicken in their Deli's cold case. Making chicken salad is not hard. If you can make tuna, you can make chicken salad. Hormel canned chili. I have had both Turkey and Vegetarian, as well as regular. It is great with a few sprinkles of cheddar cheese, some sour cream and a splash of Tabasco. There are frozen meals that cater to high Protein needs. Just pay attention to their carb content. I used to eat Tomato Soup with a sprinkle of cheese and a slice of Avocado. I also would heat a can of refried Beans with some shredded cheese, sour cream and salsa (smooth no chunks) and even Progresso Light Soups as the veggies/protein in them are super tender. -
Post Op diet plan as given to you by the surgeon/nut
BLERDgirl replied to Ray92's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I'm vegetarian and my doctor still required protein from day 1. I was given ProSource Nocarb liquid protein in the hospital. My doctor wanted me aiming for that minimum of 60 grams of protein from the very beginning. -
Post Op diet plan as given to you by the surgeon/nut
drmeow replied to Ray92's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
@@Ray92 Yours does seem very different from most of the other plans I've seen. Mine is similar to others, just the length of each stage varies. Day 1-3 clear liquids only but included clear Protein such as Isopure RTD Days 4-10 full liquids including enough Protein shakes to reach at least 60 gm per day, low sugar yogurt, sf pudding, etc Days 11-21 - pureed/soft foods - use real food as much as possible but make up difference in protein shakes to continue getting enough protein Day 22 and on - regular food, chewed to applesauce consistency 3 meals, 2 Snacks per day. Although I agree with following your own specific directions I would ask why they don't have you on any protein except the bit of yogurt? It seems like you would be burning up a lot of muscle, without adequate protein intake. Are you a vegetarian or vegan? I know there are some vegan protein supplements available though I don't know anything about their quality. -
Things a Vegetarian should know before getting the sleeve?
swimbikerun replied to nolongerhere's topic in Vegetarian or Vegan Eating
@@Daisydawn34 Could you help me understand your post. I got the first couple of items, after the sleeve date I'm lost. I'm glad you are vegetarian. Even eating less meat helps. -
Things a Vegetarian should know before getting the sleeve?
Daisydawn34 replied to nolongerhere's topic in Vegetarian or Vegan Eating
I have been a vegetarian since I was 11 and was sleeved 10-27-15 will follow to know what to eat . I do eat eggs if they are in a like which but not on their own -
Things a Vegetarian should know before getting the sleeve?
swimbikerun replied to nolongerhere's topic in Vegetarian or Vegan Eating
Hi, Yes you can always message someone. I think where I got my biggest help is from following Dr. Garth Davis, and just looking at anything vegetarian that gives recipes. I also have Indian/Hindu people, where the diet is very very tasty, and they do emphasis on the flavors in the dishes, not salt, fat, sugar. You also want to make the decision as to the type of food you want to eat. There are those who eat only fish, some poultry, some eat eggs and cheese, some don't. You sort of want to figure out what lifestyle you want to go for and then find the recipes. That's what I do. It also depends on whether or not you are willing to try other cuisines. I'll eat anything if I can keep it down. I can eat some spice, it is the salt, sugar, etc. that I don't do well with. I can do a tiny bit at a time, but otherwise, whoops it is going to bite me. -
A lot of vegetarian recipes use lots of dairy products. I've read that many people become lactose intolerant after WLS. If you are using recipes that use dairy products (cheese, yogurt, sour cream, cream cheese, milk, cream, etc), you are getting lactose, so your pain could be simple lactose intolerance. Since dairy products make my arthritis flare up, I've avoided them for years; so feel free to ask me if you want to try some of the excellent dairy alternatives out there (including a home-made nut-based "cheese" to die for!). The other culprit could be simple fats/oils. Many vegetarian recipes will replace the loss of flavor from meats with more fats (even the "leanest" meats are naturally very high in fat). You might try some low-fat flavorful recipes. My favorites are from the book "Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease" by dr. Caldwell Essestyn. Many people rave about free recipes from the happyherbivore.com and fatfreevegan.com, too. Best of luck!
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Cleared for regular food
BLERDgirl replied to anna9/15's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
For me the only food restrictions I have are self imposed. I don't eat much bread, white rice, regular pasta, crackers, etc... I'm vegetarian so I don't eat beef, poultry, fish or pork but everything I like I can eat with no problems. I don't eat a lot of processed foods or fast foods. Spicy foods are no trouble. I put hot sauce on darn near everything -
How many carbs are allowed right after surgery?
BLERDgirl replied to itstimealready's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
@@itstimealready - I was a fat vegetarian. I feel your pain. I am allergic to most artificial sweeteners and stevia. I seem to be able to tolerate sucrolose (splenda) in small doses. The unflavored Protein is my go to. -
I have tried Quorn yesterday made in a schnitzel tasted like chicken. It was delicious and has a lot of protein says it has more protein than meat. Its some sort of fungi like mushroom. Only had it once and still researching if its a good thing. So far Ive been reading good things about it. Im not a vegetarian the more protein than meat caught my eye.
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I have been vegetarian probably 15/20 years now. I switched in the late 90's. I haven't had any issues getting in my protein. I supplement but also eat a lot of eggs & Greek yogurt. Otherwise I get my protein from whole grains like quinoa and dark green veg. I had s super easy surgical experience and a sleeve seemingly made of steel. I was allowed to eat anything as tolerated at 6weeks post op. I eat salads nearly daily. Raw veg has never caused a problem for me. I am considering going vegan once I hit goal.
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I had my surgery June 2, 2015. Went in @ 285 lbs. I have lost 78 pounds! I do walk 4 half miles or workout at the gym for an hour 6 days per week. I am eating between 600-700 calories and I am afraid this will inhibit me from losing more and I have noticed the weight loss is slowing down from what it was in the beginning. Please somebody give me some input. I do eat healthy; lots of vegetables and in fact, I think I have became a vegetarian just because I cannot handle meats anymore. Angel in the Carolinas -
whoa. i just noticed something amazing. no carbs, no sugar, no salt, no caffeine = no mood swings!!! seriously, i was prone to "food rage" before but i could never place what was causing. I tired gluten free, vegetarian, etc but nothing worked. but now i think i have the key! I am very even right now, not mad, not sad, just content and fine. this is crazy! T minus day and a half until real foo! 15lbs down - 13 days post op
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Veterans: Sluggish bowels?
BLERDgirl replied to LumpySpacePrincess's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I'm vegetarian so I'm sure that plays a part. Lots of plant based foods full of Fiber. I am regular as clockwork and have been pretty much since day 5 post op. I go anywhere from 1 - 3 times a day, most days twice. I always have to go when I wake up and sometimes again after dinner. I find that on really active days, depending on what I've eaten I may go mid-day as well. Like the other posters have mentioned add some natural fiber in there. Apple or prune juice are good options. Probiotics or yogurt are also good. If you eat yogurt or hot cereals a tsp of wheat germ, flax powder or psylium powder may help. -
What’s Your Surgeon-Self-Other Split?
BLERDgirl replied to Alex Brecher's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
My surgery was very much into preventative care. I think he was a bit on the conservative side with some things, but I didn't mind because it made me feel like I was in good hands. He also has a team approach which I like. He handled strictly the medical part of it and entrusted the nutrition part to the NUT. I came prepared to have a conversation about my eating plan with my NUT. As a person with ongoing medical issues I have long learned that if you come prepared to have an actual discussion, most medical personal will respond in kind. If they do not, then that's not the program/doctor for you. At my first meeting with her, I explained my allergies and was able to demonstrate I had done my homework. Perhaps its in my mind, but I felt like the meeting started with her not expecting push back on my part, but as we spoke she came around. I was able to ask questions and she gave suggestions. When I came back for my next appointment and I had done my research and found a few options for protein supplements and vitamins, I think she saw that I was serious. Bottom line for me was I felt listened to, not talked at. I also always felt I could call or email with questions and get a timely response. I like my entire team because I always feel like an individual when I go there. I had to look up a lot of stuff to figure out how to make this work around my food allergies & vegetarianism, but I also felt it was applauded, not discouraged. -
Please continue to do your research. I am a vegetarian so guess what? I eat tons of fresh fruit and veg all the time. In fact tonight's dinner will be a small salad w/ protein. You will also be able to have rice, bread and pasta in small amounts. What may change is how your eat. What definitely changes is the amount of what you eat. You develop new eating habits, but this is not about deprivation. It's about eating in a more healthy manner. You need to sit down with your nutritionist and review what the post op eating plan will be for you so that you can prepare for that now. 2 weeks before surgery you should already know this so that you can begin shopping for protein supplements to use as you transition back to regular food.
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May Sleevers...where are you?
rosieuk replied to bvenegas's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
What a great idea:-) I've lost 61lb. Sleeved 19th May. I have 28lb to go to my goal. This has taken me from a UK size 22 (US 26) to a UK 16 (US 12) I am so happy with my results. I aim to get to goal early 2016. No complications but fairly chronic reflux. Managed with medication but may need to look at surgical options moving forward. What I love: Freedom to move and play with my kids easily Buying new clothes! Not feeling like the fat friend My husband's respect for doing this What is hard: Getting Protein in has been a hard battle, especially being vegetarian The reflux hair loss I haven't overcome my eating demons and will need help once the sleeve loses its magic ways All in all I have absolutely no regrets! I did in the first few weeks but I'm a new woman now -
Approved - but Should I Go through with it?
Cape Crooner replied to wwboy's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I actually never gave surgery a second thought once I did my research on the VSG. And I convulsed that it simply returns my stomach to the size/shape it was when I was a kid (before my mother started loading me up on Fritos and Ho-Ho's). BTW, I probably would not have done r-n-y because of all the plumbing reroute that goes with it. And the band does not work (which may be the case with the propel your therapist was talking about). The second thing I did was take both the pre-pre opt and pre-opt diet very seriously. My understanding is that this is the only sound way to avoid post-opt complications. I lost 30 pounds in 2 months before surgery. I exercised my core every day and went to a top rated hospital near Boston rather than the one nearest my house. My surgery went incredibly well. Other than dealing with my post opt eating restrictions, I already feel better than I've felt in a very long time. My ultimate rationale came down to this: 1. How much do I need to lose to become healthy again (in my case, this was probably 70 pounds). 2. What are the chances that I'll lose this much and keep it off on my own. My answer was 0%. 3. If I take that leap of faith and assume I could lose 70 pounds on my own, how long would it take and how much of my life would I have to change. This third question turned out to be the key. No matter how I looked at it, it would take much more time and sacrifice to lose 70 pounds through conventional methods than with the VSG. In my case, probably a year plus vs. about 6 months. And of course with the sleeve, my odds of keeping it off go through the roof. Finally, going vegetarian or vegan will do nothing to help you lose weight. Consider the following are on most vegan diets: French Fries chips and guacamole Sugar and all the evil things that come along with it Bread, P&J Onion Rings Home Fries I know how unhealthy a vegan diet can be. I watched my daughter put her husband on it and all he ate all day was the stuff in this list. After a year, she switched to pescatarian and he's much healthier. Take the time to truly evaluate the alternatives in terms of time/sacrifice and do not allow staying or returning to a heavy unhealthy weight to be an option. I think it will become a no-brainier. -
Approved - but Should I Go through with it?
BLERDgirl replied to wwboy's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I can say for myself this was part of a journey. I know that sounds trite, but it really was. I've been a long time vegetarian, but I can honestly say at least 10 of those years I really should have considered myself a junk-a-tarian. I didn't eat meat or seafood, but I wasn't eating healthy. Part of what made me decide to have this surgery was seeing the changes that cleaning up my diet did for me. Cutting back on fast foods, processed foods and sodas made major changes in how I felt and my health. However the damage was done. I was morbidly obese with chronic ongoing health issues. This surgery was just as much a tool as deciding to cook from scratch and go to the gym regularly was.
