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Surgery is around the corner
ShoppGirl replied to jesdona's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I had the sleeve because I have bipolar disorder and was concerned about the absorption of medication with the bypass. The dr said he recommended the sleeve because of my lower BMI but would do bypass if I wanted it. The NP said she would go with sleeve because it’s the safer choice in terms of my medications. I did not lose as much weight as I had hoped to. In all fairness the NP did warn me that sometimes with Bipolar disorder that people do not lose quite as much as those without it but I only got down to 25.7 BMI which is still technically overweight and then I gained the bounce back weight. I sometimes wonder if I had just chosen the bypass if I would have lost more and had a little easier time keeping it off. The only thing is, who is to say that I wouldn’t be one of the people who lost less with bypass as well. What if it’s not the surgery choice at all. Don’t get me wrong. I am still happy to have lost what I did lose and if I can maintain this I will be happy enough. I just don’t have much wiggle room and do wonder if I had chosen bypass if it would be different. I think it’s only human to wonder if the grass would’ve been greener on the other side. You definitely do still have time to change your mind though. They told me I was in no rush to decide all along. If I had more time to research one question I would have asked is if their patients that revised sleeve to bypass lost more after the bypass (got to a lesser weight than they had with the sleeve). I know that doesn’t 100% mean people who get bypass first will lose more than they would have with sleeve but it seems like it would be the case. They are both excellent and relatively safe options so I don’t think there is a wrong choice really. My only real advice would be to take your time until you feel confident in your choice and don’t be afraid to ask a lot of questions until you are. -
Before my VSG, I only lost 2 lbs during my 2 week pre-op diet! Talk about discouraging! They had me only eating/drinking protein shakes and greek yogurt. I never eat yogurt because it’s too high in calories and carbs. I think that is what kept me from losing any weight. However, my surgery went very well and I recovered quickly so there’s that… This time around (I’m getting ready for a revision from VSG to RNY) I’m drinking protein shakes but not eating much greek yogurt. I’m sipping on chicken bone broth a lot instead. I started my pre-op diet 4 days ago and I’ve lost 3 lbs. so far. Hang in there! It’s all going to work out great! Just stick to your pre-op diet and everything will be fine. You’ll start dropping weight after your surgery. I lost almost 80 lbs in about 3 months after my VSG.
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3 years post VSG to RNY
saman907 replied to GreenTealael's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I had a revision in March From sleeve to rny due to GERD. I dont suffer from heartburn anymore which is great however I feel a lot less restriction with food and I find i am able to eat more than I was before and have actually gained 15lbs since my lowest weight after my sleeve in 2018. I’m feeling scared that I will continue to gain and feel like I shouldn’t have gotten the revision :(. Anyone else go through this? -
Weight loss after revision
Tomo replied to follmerpa's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I don't believe it would be a waste of money if you go to a good surgeon. I wish I did my revision sooner or skip the sleeve all together because I got gerd from it. The revision was the best thing I have ever done and worth every penny. The sleeve was good at restriction but the rny, at least to me, is another animal altogether. I don't dump at all (once early on) but I get full so fast. Although I had my revision for uncontrolled gerd purposes, I lost over 90 lbs. in less than a year. I could never get below 160 lbs with the sleeve (which was fine at the time) but here I sit at 114 lbs. No gerd, no side effects, I feel great physically. I have been transitioning to get to maintenance the last 3 months. -
This is my hold up at the moment for my revision. The first time around I seen one in office and now they don’t have him and told me to go and find one. I seen someone here also had a therapist, so I’m going to contact my doctor tomorrow to see if they would be okay with her helping out. Good luck everyone! We will get through this just fine!
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Bariatric friendly pain relievers
I♡BypassedMyPhatAss♡ replied to fourmonthspreop's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Not sure if you can use these with your job or not, but I use CBD oil and topical CBD products, lidocaine cream and tylenol. I really haven't had to use anything like this since my revision, except last week, I got blinded by the sun and missed a step and banged my knee on the concrete walkway, and I was three weeks post op revision at that point and started back at the gym the day before so I was a bit sore, then the fall on top of all of that... the CBD oil took the edge off of the pain. It's supposed to be really good for muscle recovery anyway. Maybe try one of those donut pillows that you sit on? I hope you feel better soon! -
Lordy, yes! I remember eating the potted deviled ham when I was a kid. 😂 After my VSG, during my puréed stage, I made a lot of tuna salad (just tuna and mayo with a little dill pickle juice) in my food processor. I’d whip that stuff up and put it in little 2 oz cups and keep them in my fridge. I really liked the Starkist Hickory Smoke tuna in the pouch and I would use that most of the time. I liked having some guacamole with a little salt, too. I watched a lot of YouTube videos by this lady who was very creative with the puréed stage food. If you want to get some ideas, watch TimeToShrink videos. I plan to use a lot of my old “recipes” after my revision to RNY.
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What are you revising from? You may be right about the revision. I know my doctor told me that he would not do my lap-band removal and revision to sleeve in one operation because its more traumatic to the body. And had a greater percentage of some kind of complication or another. Including when healing. He said it can be done and many successfully do it, including himself when medically necessary, its just that he doesn’t like doing it. So I had to wait almost ten weeks in between. I feel like revisions are the least spoken about of all these surgeries. We speak of each as if they are individual and never of what it means to put them together in one body.
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August surgery buddies!
jenuinelygenuinely replied to Connie88's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
It is different because of the types of surgery and because I am getting mine done at Mayo most of it comes from research. I know I almost cried reading that "soft food stage/phase 3" is 6 weeks! I am getting a revision done..maybe longer recovery? -
Now I'm just waiting on the Nurse to call and schedule things.. Sent from my SM-G991U using BariatricPal mobile app
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Weight loss after revision
katherinep replied to follmerpa's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I had my revision surgery last Thursday the 11 th. I weighed 188.6 and I am at 180. This morning. -
Revision 6 months after VSG
Tomo replied to starstevenson's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I would talk to a bariatric surgeon and have them see how serious your reflux is and if it they believe it warrants a revision, they will tell you. As far as the poor choices and no weight loss, it could be due to having gerd. I didn't get reflux from my sleeve till years later, long after I had lost most of my weight. I saw a few surgeons, and they all said that I have to get a revision to RNY, otherwise I was risking getting esophageal cancer. I also started having difficulties keeping the weight off. I couldn't sleep at all, hence I ate more for energy. Other times, I ate when my stomach hurt just to temporary pacify the gnawing pain... Etc. It's all related. -
Revision 6 months after VSG
Spinoza replied to starstevenson's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I'm so sorry you're having to consider revision so soon after your original surgery. Do you think it might be useful to think about the weight loss you've managed to achieve with your current surgery, and the reflux you've unfortunately experienced separately? I have had reflux symptoms for years. They always improved when I lost weight, so after a long discussion with my surgeon I decided to go for sleeve gastrectomy as opposed to bypass. In my case the gamble (calculated) paid off. I DID in fact improve as soon as I lost a significant amount of weight again. With regards to losing weight after a VSG that is an issue you might want to address completely separately. If you can eat around a sleeve then you may be able to eat around a bypass. Do you have food addiction issues or other psychological issues that might benefit from discussion with a bariatric therapist? Having had my sleeve 9 months ago I can't imagine how I would have approached it other than how I did - as a tool to help me lose weight if I stuck to certain (hard) rules. I wish you all the best in your journey. There are many many roads to successful long-term weight loss. Seems like you've already taken a big step along one of those roads. -
VSG to ESG Surgery??-Why??
RickM replied to teedsg's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Second guessing and some regret is normal when one runs into problems. It is well to realize that whatever road you chose in the past was likely to be bumpy, even if the bumps might have been different. The bypass, in addition to having its own quirks (someone just showed up on today's recent topics column who is having reactive hypoglycemia problems - that's one of those quirks,) that can cause regrets, would not likely have been any better on helping you with your regain (RNY and VSG are very similar in that regard,) and is also more difficult to revise should you have had problems. So, there is (and was) no easy, straight answer. We follow what looks like the best road for us and take what life throws at us over time.. -
My RNY experience
Tomo replied to 15 years post-op's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Thank you for sharing this. I got the bypass a little over a year ago. I am one of those people that if something can go wrong, I'd be in that minority. With the band (slip/erosion), and then the sleeve (esophagitis and severe gerd). Many people have both of those for life, but unfortunately, each time I was forced to revise or live in pain. I am extremely happy with my RNY, and I sure hope I will be able to look back 15 years from now and still be healthy. -
lol what a catch 22! Ummmmm I’d say I’m excited about surgery I’m a revision so there’s a bit of been there done that . I just want to fast forward to when I’m recovering at home. I felt overwhelmed with how much new information is out/products since I had my first surgery in 2010 . I’m naturally a worry wart so I’m going through the motions of overly researching duodenal switch . I know it’s best for me due to my metabolism disorders. I read somewhere you could lose a pound a day ! Like that’s crazy to me lol ! (Also I’m making you my accountability partner lol there will be meltdowns FYI !)
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Revision 6 months after VSG
starstevenson posted a topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Hi, I’m looking for others who’ve had a revision WITHIN the first year of their original VSG? My reflux is AWFUL! And my weight has been at a stall since month 4. A lot of that due to food choices. The worst the reflux has gotten, the worse the carbs have gotten. Anyone had a revision so soon and was able to get back on track? My revision is due to reflux. -
Hey Kara which vitamins are you purchasing? Due to getting the DS I’ll have to take 4 pills in the am and 4 at pm the brand is barilife . Also another question what made you pick the sleeve as your revision choice?
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VSG to ESG Surgery??-Why??
Tomo replied to teedsg's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
So basically they want to re-sleeve you which doesn't make sense if you have gerd. A few years ago, I originally asked my surgeon who regularly does ESG if I can have that instead of the bypass (I was still worried about getting a bypass back then) and he adamantly said no, and it'll make my gerd worse if they tighten my sleeve. He said the sleeve puts pressure on the lower esophageal sphincter which causes reflux. Once he found out I had a gerd, he pushed for a revision to RNY for a couple of years and I kept trying different PPIs instead but to no avail. It got so bad, I finally had to get the revision to RNY last August. -
VSG to ESG Surgery??-Why??
SleeveToBypass2023 replied to teedsg's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Everything I've seen on here about getting a revision from sleeve because of GERD has been to the bypass. I've heard the bypass actually greatly diminishes or even eliminates GERD. And gives additional weight loss (although less than initial surgery, it still gives some). It might take another year, but you should be able to get that last 65 pounds down with the bypass, and have relief from the GERD. I would talk to your doctor again, and if he still won't budge from the ESG, find another doctor. -
VSG to ESG Surgery??-Why??
RickM replied to teedsg's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Likewise, I don't see the sense of it The ESG by its nature is more limited in what it can do by virtue of its limited surgical procedure - they just can't do as much endoscopically as they can do by going in laproscopically. And, from what I have seen the ESG doesn't have as good results as the basic VSG, either. A few other random considerations: Revisions of any kind tend to have less performance than a virgin procedure - my simple minded picture is that you have already had your stomach reduced from 32-64 oz capacity down to 2-4 oz and you have learned to eat around that; even if it has stretched out some, cutting it back to 1-2 oz isn't going to do much. The RNY isn't markedly different than the VSG in weight loss or regain performance, so don't expect a lot from that, maybe 20 lb would be typical, mostly from a return to the extreme dieting one has to go through around surgery time. If you have had significant regain, first step is to evaluate the cause and treat that; as noted above, the RNY isn't markedly better than the sleeve, so unless you correct what went wrong in the first place, you will be back here again in a couple of years, but with fewer options (the RNY is a trickier thing to revise once you get it, so consider it to be a one way street.) Are you insured, but not covered for WLS, or not insured at all? if you have a significant GERD problem, then correcting it may/should not be considered WLS. but correcting a threatening health condition, possibly the result of an earlier surgery. Check it out before giving up on that avenue. How severe is your GERD? have you had it evaluated? If it is beyond treatment with meds and lifestyle changes, then surgery may be called for. It might be an RNY type procedure (don't refer to it as an RNY to your insurance as that will guarantee a negative answer if they don't cover WLS; there are a number of procedures that derive from the same procedure that gave rise to the RNY, and they are used for treating multiple problems; but they may go under a different name, so let your chosen surgeon work that out with the insurance company. Again, have your issue evaluated - if surgery is needed, a resleeve may do the job without going to the RNY, or it may not as it depends on what's going on with your sleeve. -
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VSG to ESG Surgery??-Why??
liveaboard15 replied to teedsg's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
never heard of a revision from sleeve to ESG... which ESG is basically the sleeve. They sew thru your mouth into your stomach... Every revision i have seen on here is from sleeve to bypass or some form of bypass like mini bypass or that Duodenial switch or however you spell it. -
Does this make sense? I live in Atlanta, GA and I've had two consultations for sleeve revisions. Both doctors are pushing for an ESG. To me it doesn't make sense. Sure it's less invasive and through the endoscopy route, but, I'm a little apprehensive. Neither of them said it will help GERD nor did they mention a good weight loss. An average of 15-20% weight loss is not good stats to me because it'll only give me approximately 40 lb weight loss. It seems like a quick fix that won't last long. Can anyone suggest any good Atlanta surgeons for a sleeve to bypass surgery? My google search is coming up short. There's one surgeon in Johns Creek I would like to try but it's out of reach monetarily because I'm self-pay. I'm 223, 5'4 and 5 years out of VSG. I want a revision because of GERD and weight re-gain. Any insight is helpful.
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Oh yeah, definitely with a job like that you should take your time. I’m having a revision, from lap band to sleeve. I’m so ready to get this done, so I understand you not wanting to jeopardize that.
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Hi there 6 weeks actually starting next week! It’s very hard following my pre-op diet while at work and stressing about possible exposure to COVID-19. I really don’t want to take any chances of having my surgery postponed. I feel like if I get stir crazy I’ll go back to work. I hope your recovery goes well and you’re able to function at work easily. I work at a prison so there’s a lot of walking unsure if I should rush back? Which surgery are you having? I’m a revision sleeve to DS due to hypothyroidism & pcos.
