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In The Newspaper This Morning
NWgirl replied to lassie's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
http://abcnews.go.co...25#.T-PSD_UVrhJ The difference between the band and the bypass is that the band can cause increased intoxication, but that is due to eating highly decreased calories. The bypass issue is that they actually have the plumbing differences that cause the increased metabolic absorption of alcohol, so they can drink til they are drunk and wait a short amount of time and the metabolism will have negated the effects, letting them consume more alcohol. Dr. Mitchell Roslin, a bariatric surgeon at Lenox Hill Hospital in New York City, said the link between gastric bypass surgery and increased alcohol use has been attributed before to the shifting addiction theory and that this is false. The shifting addiction theory is that if a person has an impulsive drive to eat and the ability to eat large amounts of food is taken away, then he will shift his addiction to another addictive substance, like drugs or alcohol. "A gastric bypass patient has a small pouch [for a stomach] so alcohol goes straight into the intestine and is absorbed rapidly," said Roslin. "When it is absorbed rapidly, there is a high peak and rapid fall." The higher absorption rate makes alcohol more addictive, he added. Laparoscopic gastric banding, where an adjustable band in placed around a patient's stomach and limits how much food the stomach can hold, did not have an associated risk with increases in alcohol problems. King said this is to be expected as gastric banding does not change the anatomy and thus the metabolism of alcohol like gastric bypass does. -
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Boniluuu replied to lassie's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Its like with anything. It is willpower. Some people have more addictive personalities. People mourn the loss of the way things used to be so you want something else to fill the void. My husband had the bypass 5 years ago. He since has been addicted to drugs, alcohol, shopping, hoarding, porn, eating, dipping, smoking. His sistet had it and is fine. -
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Sojourner replied to lassie's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Not true, according to my surgeon. Any bariatric patient, including the bandster, will absorb alcohol faster than someone who has not had surgery. We were cautioned that 1 drink could easily put you over the legal blood alcohol content for driving. He emphatically told us all that he will not write letters to law enforcement to intervene in any DUI cases which may happen as a result of not heeding his warnings. -
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cfurrey replied to lassie's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
There is a thread on this forum that has a detailed article about wls and alcohol problem it wasnt long ago maybe searching back you can get more info! -
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Kimberly Collins replied to lassie's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
It's an addiction trade off. I am having this issue. I have taken up drinking wine, where as I never drank pre-band. I am not an alcoholic, but have decided to not drink at all b/c it hampers my WL. -
So sorry you had that experience! 4 more weeks of liquids would drive me insane. But think of how much weight you'll lose (....looking for the upside here....). As to being a cheap date...I told my husband I'm the cheapest date ever now. He doesn't have to buy me a drink (I'd get bombed on 1/2 an alcoholic drink now, I'm sure). And if I was REALLY hungry, he could take me to costco on "sample" day. It would be like a buffet, and I'd be full after about 3 tasting stations! LOL. Cheapest date EVER.
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She also keeps drinking alcoholic drinks after she knows she isn't supposed to....she had her 1st drink just 3 weeks after surgery because her hubby's aunts who all have had wls told her it was ok but they all have had complications! Sent from my iPhone using RNYTalk
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I have a cup that I make Water with Mio in daily and it has a straw that I use. I eat pretty much whatever I want, just smaller portions as others have said. I have had alcohol a few times, keep a case of diet caffeine free soda here and have one a couple of times a week, and, in general, eat regular food for my meals. If I'm going to the gym early in the day, then I'll have a Protein bar for Breakfast. If not, then I have an egg and a piece of sausage for breakfast. I don't feel like I'm "on a diet". This is just my new reality and I like it. Being down 100 pounds and looking better in my clothes helps a lot, too! I also just bought myself a Keurig (part of my Century Club gift to myself) and I've been enjoying my decaf coffee and tea from it.
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Help... Am I Ready????
lifebegins2012 commented on trujiyi's blog entry in So Confused, schedulded my Surgery for July 6th but am very nervous
I have no regrets. I'm 12 weeks post op and 30lb down. Last month I lost 8lb but this month I've only lost 4lb so far but have been off track more than on in food choices and keep going back to the cupboards.My target set by the dietician is 4-8lb a month so I'm ok but am still knocking myself as I know just how often I have eaten badly. My dietician wants me to eat everything now, all food types so it's an experiment as to what doesn't suit me. I've found broccoli, apples,crumpets and some bread have been a problem. I have had alcoholic drinks 3 times and for me it was the same as pre-op. I can drink a whole mug of tea at 'normal speed' and my dietician has even said I can drink while eating. A couple of times this has proved problematic though.. I'm really enjoying the feeling of weightloss. I remember being this weight and I feel so much better and happier. My confidence is returning. My journey hasn't been plain sailing. Constipation has been a problem, particulaly in the first couple of weeks. I have to push myself to drink more fluids as these daily volumes havn't been part of my routine for the last 40+years! Some days I suffer the '2nd bite stuck' sensation where I have to wait and wait before eating any more as it's kind of 'stuck'. When I haven't waited long enough , I'm sick. Sometimes I can eat and eat and eat. I am suprised at some of the portions I can still have - but know I shouldn't be. Crunchy foods are my best friends. They fill me up quick and keep me full for longer. I eat chicken at least 4 times a week which is the same as before having my band. A tip is not to compare yourself and journey to others. It's really hard not to but our bodies do work at different rates. This site is one of the best tools you will find. Initially I could be on here for 5 hours a day every day. I've needed it less as I'm finding my way and might only log on for 10 mins every 3-4 days now. xx -
Will I Ever Be Able To....
readyforachange replied to TMyers1471's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I can't believe it's only been 4 months for me being sleeved. It seems like a year ago! I drink out of a straw quite a bit.....yet don't do it all day long. I eat sweets rarely. That was my downfall. Fortunately, they sorta hurt my tummy now. But a small bite now and then won't kill you. You need to wait a year for alcohol. I have a friend who is 3 yrs out and she can only sip on a margarita and will not finish it. I have a cup of coffee every morning/w caffine and steamed milk. However, I wait at least 30 mins after I've had my egg so I don't wash away my Protein. Protein is a big problem for me. The best thing for me to do is track it on a phone app, "Lose It". I do get around 60 grams a day in regular food for protein. I probably eat a hamburger once a week with the top bun off. I can't eat the whole thing.....but it makes me feel so normal to be able to eat it. -
Drink out of a straw? Eat regular foods? I mean...I NEVER want to be a compulsive over-eater again, and I have not cheated once since my surgery (May 21st), but I was just wondering, for example, let's say I want two french fries one day. Will it make me sick? Have caffeine? I know my pop days are over. I can deal with that. However, I like my coffee in the morning. I don't go overboard. I usually drink 1 cup. Decaf coffee is gross. I want my one cup of coffee with my tablespoon of vanilla creamer again. Is that too much to ask? Is sugar off limits forever??? What about alcohol? Beer, wine, mixed drink? Anything? Will I EVER have to stop obssessing about getting in my required Protein??? Will there ever be a time that I can get my protein from food rather than these damn Protein shakes. Right now I'm on lean meats, yogurt, cheese, etc...but I can only tolerate an ounce of food at a time, so the protein I get from these foods is very small and I still have to supplement with shakes.
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In The Newspaper This Morning
NWgirl replied to lassie's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I read this article on another post a few days ago and it is only something related to band or bypass. The cause is that alcohol is metabolised differently after those surgeries, so people can drink and drink and the effect wears off quickly, so they drink more. It's not necessarily a replacement of a food addiction, just a thing with how it runs through the body. -
I drank alcohol on Saturday and it seems every since then, I have been having really bad heartburn. I seem to get it even when I have not eaten or drank anything in a while. I have not tried any medication yet. I keep thinking it will go away. Has anyone else ever had this problem.
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In The Newspaper This Morning
bandbun replied to lassie's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
The article was about people with gastric bypass being able to absorb alcohol quicker so therefore could drink a lot more , lpbands should not affect alcohol consumption other than all those calories u are consuming. The article was specifically to do with gastric bypass people who have more tendency to become alcoholics because of the absorbtion differences . -
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alb729 replied to lassie's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I too was wondering the same thing? Drinking as in swallowing or drinking as in alcohol? I had roux ny done in 2000 and was just banded this past May 16th....my pouch, after all these years stretched and so lap band was the only thing offered to help this ...I am doing well so far as I was good most of the time on my eating habits with the bypass..it was just one of those things, however, nothing in a drinking matter afflicted me...I like to have a glass of wine or maybe two but I don't see the correlation between bariatrics and alcoholism? -
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DELETE THIS ACCOUNT! replied to lassie's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
What my doctor told me was, very often people trade addictions. So after WLS, some patients will trade their food addiction for alcoholism or drug abuse. He said this one of the reasons he tells his WLS patients to avoid alcohol, not only because it's empty calories but because of the increase risk of addiction. -
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lassie replied to lassie's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
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Sojourner replied to lassie's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Did the article give specifics about the type of "drinking problem" the study was referring to? I would be very interested to know, if it referred to simply drinking fluids, or were they were referring to developing tendencies towards abusing alcoholic beverages. I'd find it difficult to believe that bariatric surgery of any type would be a contributing factor to substance abuse...though other behavioral issues might be more understandable. If an individual has an addiction, such as to food, without the proper treatment with a therapist or psychologist, it is fairly common to substitute one addiction for another. -
OK, in February of 2011 I said I would get my ass back in gear. I had lost over 100 Pounds since getting my band and was doing great. Sadly I got comfortable. That means I learned things like: Sauces make things easier to eat Ice cream is easy to eat Alcohol is easy to drink Saving your fat guy clothes as you lose weight makes gaining weight back easier as you don't have to go outside naked So, after 18 months I bounced back up by about 30 pounds. Not horrific by my standards of weight loss but still pissed me off. I was still down net 70 but the direction had reversed. I had to do something. I schedule a check up and possible fill. I needed to do that. I had become too comfortable with my ability to cheat the tool. I need the restriction. I got a personal trainer and committed myself to it. I am now 6 weeks in. I have lost about 24 net pounds but need to track inches (stop it!) as I know that the workouts are changing my body more than the scale is reflecting. I am, for the first time in my life, planning my life around my workouts. I will drop a note when I have something really cool to report but for right now I am stoked about that exercise change. The diet side will lead to the weight loss most directly but the exercise will start to compound it. For those interested, I work out with a trainer on Monday and Wednesday for 1:15 minutes. We do a combination of cardio, weights and circuit training with a pretty significant focus on core. On Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays I do his Bootcamp which is: Tuesday: Sparticus Circuit. 10 exercises. 45 sec to 1 min on then move. Three sets followed by an ad circuit. Thursday: Sand day. Conditioning, sprinting and footwork all in a sand pit. Wrap with abdominal circuit and arms (Push Ups and Dips) Saturday: Mixed bag. This day can be running, ladder drills, circuits. It really depends on the weather. All the exercises can be modified for different levels of ability. It has been truly amazing to start to MISS workouts and try and plan work and vacation around them. If you can contact someone locally and work out a plan to start you really should. It took about 3 weeks for me to convert over to wanting to do it instead of having to but now that I have, I don't really want to stop. Anyway, wanted to get back into the swing of writing. Hope you are all well.
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Hi CantBelieve_IdidIit! Dont really know where to start, but I was always a big kid. Used to play rugby and was a school swimmer (high school) was always big and muscular, till I went to the Army. I had an operation on both my feet, due to injury, thus unable to walk for almost 8 mths in 2003. Since den I've just been eating and eating and eating. No exercise.... loads of alcohol and serious binge eating especially at night after 11pm. I've put on heaps of weight and decided to have a VST this year because I felt I couldnt keep to dieting and exercise. And the VST went well on the 1st May 2012. Since then I've lost alot of weight and am continuing to lose even more. I've noticed my shoulders getting smaller... kinda like an "A" body shape, and decided to head to the gym last night, hoping to bulk up my shoulders before even more weight loss occurs.
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http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/weight-loss-surgery-increasing-alcoholism-risk-16602025
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Nightline "weigh Less Drink More"
Dooter replied to KristieAtkinson's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I've had wine 2 or three times after maybe ....the three month mark? All three times it was delicious, but the next day, I swelled up like a butterball turkey and felt like the poo. I have determined that it is not worth the week and a half of playing catch up with my weight to even bother dabbling in it. And YES, it hit my senses right away and pretty hard! I didn't even have that much. Maybe 4 oz the third time. (less the other two times) BLEH. I'm done with alcohol. -
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KristieAtkinson replied to KristieAtkinson's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I believe Carnie drank those 10 drinks spread out over an entire day but she felt she had a serious problem with alcohol. (I think her Dad had a problem with alcohol & drugs.) My doctor says some people transfer addictions to sex, alcohol, shopping & even working out. I enjoy working out a lot & the more weight I lose, the greater the pull at the gym is. So, I see now that I could easily become addicted to one thing or another. Lol @ choosing sex addiction. Sign me up too!! -
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4ALongerLife replied to KristieAtkinson's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Well alcoholism is a disease that is usually genetic. Wasn't Carnie Wilson's dad Brian Wilson? Doesn't he have a history of excessive drinking? Or was it just drug use? I can't remember.... From what I remember though on Carnie, they had a 'new' show coming out on Lifetime or something like that and she was having another surgery because after her divorce, she fell apart. IDK what surgery she was having, but ... yeah we can all transfer our addiciton to something else regardless if 85% of our stomach is gone. Our drug of choice may not be alcohol... could be sex, shopping, online gaming... but the addict predisposition, I believe, rests in all of us. For so long, our drug of choice was food. But just like 2bsmallagain states, she's transferred her addiction over to something constructive - cooking healthy for her family. Kudos to those of us that can do that, kudos to those of us that are trying to work on it and kudos to those who at least recognize the problems we might still have whether that be food or something else. -
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desertmom replied to KristieAtkinson's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I really use to like a glass of red wine with a good meal maybe twice a week. Post sleeve I find that if I dont eat before I even take the tiniest little sip of wine it hits me right between the eyes for a few minutes and then I am dog tired. I tried diluting the wine (stupid to spoil good wine like that IMO) it still does the same. When I have had the meal first and then take a sip it doesnt do the same and I can at least take a sip or 2 before I start feeling tired. I have given it up as a bad job and have quit trying to drink wine at all. I can understand how people can get dependant on alcohol post surgery but you dont need 10 of anything,I would pass out looooong before finishing number 2. People that needs a crutch will find a new one post surgery,being it biting nails,drinking,smoking whatever.
