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Bariatric surgery causes alcoholism?
ProudGrammy replied to Timmy2shirts's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
@@Paulajo24 congrats on you long period of sobriety (msp?) drinking, smoking - then changing to food all bad addictions which is the worse of 3 evils??? i think we all know the right answer!! 4.5ears Post op RNy!!! congrats on all your accomplishments hope alll is well @@Timmy2shirts not a dumb question as others have said some people can have cross addictions sure this can happen turning to drugs, alcohol et al no stats from me about changing addictions, but i "think" the % is small IMO your boss made yet another ignorant statement concerning WLS many people don't understand the surgery they say stupid things like "you took the easy way out" try not to let let comments made from others bother you good luck Kathy -
I have to add my thoughts to this one. I'm 4 months out and have lost 80 pounds ( stalling right now due to TOM). I do have an occasional sweet usually mini reeses cup me and my hubby keep in the freezer. Im also part of a wine club and love to drink wine. I go about once a month to a wine tasting and my husband and I usually have a glass of red for dinner. I don't count calories and just listen to my body what it needs food wise. I do find that since I eat so little I do make much better food choices. I eat more fish since it has more protein and always make sure to drink plenty of water. If I drink wine I have extra water to make up for the alcohol. This surgery is the best decision I've ever made for myself and as a self pay the money I spent was well worth it. I've never felt better and since I'm eating so much healthier my husband has also lost 40 pounds since I've inspired him. Make sure you do plenty of your own research and don't blindly follow the advice of a NUT. I've picked up books to read and like to make my own decisions based on a wide range of facts. Best of luck to ya!
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Hi, everybody! I just met with the dietician today and am now a little apprehensive about my upcoming sleeve surgery. I was told by others that I could have the occasional cookie or sweet thing and now my dietician is telling me I won't be able to without getting sick I was told by others that I could pretty much eat what I want just in very small portions (at least after 90 days or so). Also, will I be able to go out with my friends and have a couple glasses of wine?? I 'm worried about my nights out with the girls!
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I'm not a beer drinker, but I drink soda. I waited until I was at goal to drink it. My sleeve had relaxed, and I would burp and the liquid would pass. I know there are a couple of the other guys on the forum that enjoy beer now. I'm a rum/coke drinker, and haven't had any issues with having carbonation plus alcohol. I wouldn't do it early out if you have really great restriction still because it can be very uncomfortable. Flat beer sucks so I wouldn't recommend letting it go flat like a lot suggest for soda consumption.
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I'm about 3 months out and I talked with my nutritionist about alcohol. She told me it would be ok but not to make it a regular habit and to make sure an calculate in with my daily calories and carbs. Like you I wanted to have something while out with the girls. I had a skinny girl margarita first and yes it hit me fast but also the buzz wore off fast too. The second time I had vodka cranberry and it was the same fast buzz but then quickly went away. Both times I felt fine the next day but I didn't over induldge. I agree with doctors using the scare tactic. I understand where they're coming from but I agree more with having everything in moderation. I think that is easier for us to take in as well and not think it will be off limits forever.
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I understand that... As my surgery date is coming I desire alcohol more.. anyone else?
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Feeling lost without food for comfort
Kindle replied to Megall9's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Two years postop and sinking farther and farther into the darkness of depression, I finally sought the help of a therapist. A lot of shit happened in those two years and without food and alcohol to comfort me, I finally hit the wall. Everyone has given very good non-food suggestions on how to deal with stress. Find what works for you, but if you are find yourself struggling, don't hesitate to seek professional help. I know it literally saved my life. Good luck with everything. -
Hi thanks for your comments, what about alcohol does the sleeve tolerate this?
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Can VSG work with coffee?
Proud2BMe replied to Coffeeguy's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Yes, you can still drink coffee. You may experience some burning sensations the first couple of times you drink it but you will soon get over it. On a side note, the first time I drank alcohol after the sleeve, about month 5, I had this horrible burning sensation. I thought I really messed up. But it was fine. I'm only a social drinker but am fine with it now. -
I got my surgery date! but.....
RayJunCayJun replied to Tisa's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I called it helicopter bacteria because that's about what the technical term sounds like. You will be fine, you will be given some super strong antibodies, maybe even triple antibody therepy, I think that is what it is called for a week. Just remember to not take any of it on an empty stomach and especially do not drink any alcohol while taking them. 4 years ago I did the triple antibodic thing and I tested negative last Monday. -
I have been okay so far but was told no soda or alcohol-- you do know there is a high incidence of alcoholism amongst WLS patients right.. so avoid it if possible! AFTER 2 MONTHS I CAN FINALLY EAT SALAD!!YAY
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Sex, Drugs, and Rock & Roll
juliarh replied to vickie6866's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hi -- this is what I was told by my surgeon, but PLEASE note that every surgeon's recommendations are different and you should ask/follow his or her suggestions: 1. sex -- we could have sex within 2 weeks following surgery 2. alcohol -- I was told I could have it now (3 months out) -- BUT from what I've read and learned, alcohol is empty calories -- you will be using up a fair amount of your day's allotted calories on alcohol. In addition, from what I've read, the alcohol immediately passes through the stomach to your small intestines, making you feel buzzed immediately and then it wears out immediately. So, might not be worth it until you're done with the losing phase of your post-op adventure. In addition, you probably should avoid any carbonated drinks -- beer, champagne, spritzers, etc. Hope that helps -- and if I don't have the facts right about alcohol (those who are done losing have a better grip on it) then I'm sure others will chime in. -
I just saw another post yesterday that people are peeing less after they lose weight, possibly because their smaller stomachs aren't pressing on their bladders as much. If your urine is not bright/dark yellow and is straw colored or almost clear, you are probably fine. Another thing to consider is how much sodium is in your diet. More salt could cause you to retain water. Also, if you used to have a lot of caffeine or artificial sweeteners or tea or alcohol and no longer do, those all cause more peeing for various reasons, so that could be why you are peeing less.
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@@jj7481 I see this all the time with my sister n law and brother n law. Both get disability and Medicaid. Both are addicted to prescription pain medications and one to alcohol. They must go to the ER at least once a week, seriously. Their attitude is I am not paying for it so what the hell. And what they do have to pay for my father n law takes care of. He is a constant enabler of this behavior and honestly is so stupid about it that he will believe anything they tell him. For example once a week he writes them a check for between 500 and 1000 without ever seeing a doctors bill at all. There has to be a way for people that abuse the system and ruin it for everyone else that really needs it.
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How to prepare for surgery day?
OKCPirate replied to avRose's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
§ Start getting in better shape. I walked, lifted, and did as much as I could 5 times a week getting ready for surgery. § Started practicing eating slower for lunch. § Watched many videos, talked to people who had been through it. § Oh, but best work was preparing for the mental changes with my therapist and worked through this book: http://www.amazon.co...=bariatric book § I drank a great deal of alcohol so I weaned myself off and slowly cut the caffeine. § Followed the pre-op diet to the letter § Shopped two weeks before surgery for the foods I would need for the first two weeks. § Revised my will and power of attorney just in case something went wrong § Tried pureed meal ideas and Protein drinks before surgery so I had some meal plans. Things I took that I liked: Laptop, earbuds, slip on shoes, pants with elastic, iPod with audio books, shorts. Oh, gas-x dissolving strips - take those. Wish I had brought my favorite Isopure drinks, but found a GNC near the hospital. Keep the bag light. -
No preop diet, do you think a glass of champagne is safe 5 days before surgery?
Vinasu replied to vegbeth's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
My Dr told me no alcohol 3 days before surgery, but you're far enough out even she wouldn't mind. Go for it. Sent from my SM-G925V using the BariatricPal App -
I think after three months, I was (with careful planning) able to go out and have drinks and appetizers with friends. I would order a shrimp cocktail or seared ahi or even chicken wings (naked) and a martini, or a glass of wine which I sipped very slowly. I even went out for mexican food and ordered shrimp fajitas and ate just the shrimp and refried beans. Okay, it took three meals to eat all of the shrimp and beans...I took home the leftovers! Now, I bring a carb smart tortilla in my purse, so I can make a little shrimp taco...YUM!! If you host the event, no one would notice if you were drinking flavored water or something other than alcohol and you could make sure there was something you could eat, if not freely, at least without fear! So host a game night with your neighbors!
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Failing Lap Band NEED HELP
wendyhart replied to riseandfall9's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hi Brian, I don't think I'm really qualified to answer most of your questions because I am just getting ready to get banded myself, but from the research I have done I think you need to find a new dr who can help you figure out why you cant stop throwing up. I'm sure you already know that drugs and alcohol won't help solve any of the problems that you are having. Have you considered talking to a councelor as well, I know it has really helped me overcome some very difficult circumstances in my life. I will be praying that you find some answers and that you will be able to overcome all the obstacles that you are facing now. Try to look back and remember all the things that you have already overcome and how far you have come. I know that that is not always an easy thing to do, but it always helps me to think about where I could be compared to how far I have come. Take care and God bless you, Wendy -
It can throw you out of ketosis, but it doesn't necessarily do that for everyone. Listen to your doctors recommendation on when you can resume alcohol. If you are having issues with not consuming alcohol, you might want to ask yourself why. Sent from my iPhone using VST
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Hey folks I was banded in april this year 2008 and have joined this group in the hope of getting some motivation to help me loose the weight I thought I would have lost by now!!! Had such high hopes after surgery but have only lost 10kgs and most of that was in the 4 weeks post op. On the good side at least I am not gaining. I do however know what I am doing wrong....alcohol is a down fall plus the mindset that ok I have a band but I can still eat what I want...and believe me with 8ml fill I can still eat bread, meat you name it and still eat a fairly decent size portion. So ladies (and gents) my 2009 IS going to be the year I loose this weight and the diabetes. Exercise bike is out of the garage and in my bedroom winking at me to use it and use it I will (oh help) My aim is to be below 120kg by end of Jan 2009 (3kgs) amd hopefully down to 115kg by my birthday in March.....this will be the lightest I have been in 11 years!!!! So my new friends and hopefully weightloss cheerleaders I need your help....any tips handy hints or bottom kicking you can hand out would be wonderful. I am so lucky that my insurance company paid the full cost of my surgery and I am wasteing this golden opportunity. Wish me luck Kayla
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In this case I'm glad they differ -- I hate milk!! But thank you for clarifying! Just FYI, once you're back on solid foods you should be able to enjoy wine again. I know a lot of doctors discourage alcohol consumption because it is empty calories and full of carbs, but I just count my wine in my allotment of calories and carbohydrates and have been successful with my weight loss.
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McCraven: My NUT told me to wait a year. Her reasons were: 1) Most of us sleevers have a fatty liver. As we are losing weight rapidly our liver is working hard. Add alcohol to that, and our liver has to work harder. 2) alcohol can inflame the stomach 3) liquid calories and could effect your weight loss and the rate of weight loss. Dietbelle: I wouldn't think a teeny tiny sip would would hurt, but I would leave it at just aTeeny sip for the toast. Champagne has the dreaded carbonation and of course the alcohol. A whole glass may not feel good on your tummy. As far as food, each surgeon seems to be a little different. I am allowed to eat solid foods at 6 weeks. He instructed me not to eat red meat for about 6 months but eat what I want with the rule of measured portions, small bites, chew till it dissolves, Protein first and if there is room, the eat some veg. Breads, cakes, etc should be avoided.
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Drinking alcohol
Cape Crooner replied to mcraven83's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
This was a big concern for me for social reasons. I stuck my toe in the alcohol waters at around 6 weeks at a party with a very weak (1/2 shot) and diet cranberry juice. Hated it and didn't finish. The next night (another party), I sipped 1 glass of wine over the course of 3 hours with no issues. I have enjoyed a few since then, but I think it's very important to log the calories, eat before you drink, and take an extra antacid before you drink. Interestingly enough, I have lost weight the days after drinking, so the weight loss is not an issue. Keep in mind, wine is 125 calories a glass and vodka/bourbon are around 90 a shot. -
Beginning The Gastric Sleeve Surgery Process
dominique replied to krenee's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
It took me about 7 months. I attended a public seminar, watched 2 videos, met with the surgeon, went to a public nutritional and behavorial seminar, went to support meetings, met one-on-one with the nutritionist and social worker, had a chest xray, had an abdominal ultrasound, had an endoscopy, had a stress test, had extensive blood tests, got approved by insurance, had sugery scheduled, had pre-op blood tests, had a pre-op class and met with the surgeon pre-op. Because of my drinking, I had to quit alcohol and go to AA meetings twice a week. I had to get a form signed at each meeting which had to be faxed in to the social worker. This set me back about 2 months. Because alcohol is so toxic to the stomach and detrimental to weight loss, I had to prove sobriety before I could move on. It was very difficult. I had to finish each step to schedule the next one. I kept on top of things and this was the fastest I could go. I possibly could have been ready in 5 months if I was sober already. -
It is a very good program. It is based on the same 12 steps that AA and other meetings are based upon. They don't charge a fee, but donations are recommended as they usually have to pay the location where they are and they give you literature. When I attended OA, it was with a group that was newly formed and there was no one there that would have been considered "in recovery" yet so it was like attending an alcoholics anonymous meeting where everyone is drunk. I would say go to a couple meetings and see if it is for you. You have to be humble about it and be willing to share who you are, etc. Whether it is OA or another support group, I think anything that helps you address the reasons WHY you developed such an unhealthy relationship with food rather than just the food and exercise bits, it can only bring you good things!
