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The Fine Line Between Acceptance And Making Excuses
LindaS replied to Globetrotter's topic in The Lounge
There are some tasty chocolate-flavored Protein bars out there! I am right there with you, Globetrotter. I haven't lost very much since February (less than 10 pounds) and most of that came off during two weeks time. I can eat wonderfully and exercise daily burning hundreds of calories and not lose a single pound. I can eat some carbs and drink some alcohol and not gain anything. And then for no reason, when my eating and exercise is great, I gain weight. And then I lose it even though there is no reason. And I can't figure out why. It doesn't make sense. The 3500 calores = 1 pound is not accurate for me. And when I don't get rewarded or punished, I tend to make bad choices (popcorn!). I suspect some of it might be due to monthly cycle stuff although I no longer technically have a monthly cycle. I had an endometrial ablation, so I don't get a period, but I think I still get the hormone influx, but I can no longer track it to that. I think part of it is that I am down to the harder to burn stuff. And it is in my problem areas (upper thighs/butt/belly), which are harder places to tone/exercise. I definitely have some psychological stuff. I tend to eat popcorn when I'm alone and working. I like salty/crunchy Snacks better than I like chocolate/sweet snacks. I tried protein chips instead of regular chips, but I don't like the flavor. At first, they were a good substitute for the crunch craving, but they taste so bad, I'd rather have 100 calories of actual chips than something that tastes bad but is better for me. I could get the crunch from raw veggies, which is actually my preference except I have braces, which makes eating raw veggies hard to do. I log my food daily, and I think that is a big part of me keeping on track usually. I am even thinking of doing a day or two of photographing what I eat just to see if it will help me make better choices. I have a blog, and if I had to photograph it would I be willing to eat it? Personally, I think the biggest down fall for me is the calories in drinks. I don't know a lot of calories in drinks, and they tend to surprise me more than anything. Summer drinks tend to be higher in calorie (like lemonade). I had a Gatorade the other day and didn't realize until after I had drank it that it had 39 grams of carbs in it. -
I am 9 days away from a year out, and I have no regrets. I did think I'd be at goal by now. I still have another 30 pounds. To be honest, I think I could have been at goal by now if I'd continued to deny myself some food types. I don't eat a lot of them, but it slows my weight loss (popcorn/alcohol, for example). Part of why I didn't deny myself is because I didn't get this surgery to deny myself. I wanted a tool not a lock. I still plan on getting to goal. It just didn't happen the first year. But what I have lost and how much better I feel? Priceless.
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Step 1 Locate the nutrition content of your food. Most food packages provide a descriptive nutrition label which contains carbohydrate information. However, if you cannot locate this information, then research the nutrition facts from an on-line database. Bad Food for Diabetes Foods to eat & avoid to control blood sugar. From Today Show expert www.JoyBauer.com Sponsored Links Step 2 Determine the number of total carbohydrates and total grams of Fiber. According to the 2002 edition of "Dr. Atkins' New Diet Revolution," fiber, glycerin, sugar alcohols and polydextrose, which are included in the total grams of carbohydrates, have a minimal impact on blood sugar levels and are, therefore, not included in the calculation of net carbs. Nevertheless, not all critics agree on the effects of sugar alcohols, like the Mayo Clinic which focuses on total carbs and total fiber to compute net carbs. In other words, whether you choose to include sugar alcohol, polydextrose and glycerin information is subjective to you. Step 3 Subtract the total grams of fiber from the total grams of carbohydrates to calculate net carbohydrates. Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/85180-calculate-net-carbohydrates/#ixzz22F7etsOp
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How Soon Was Your Surgery?
swmr2006 replied to cbrks2012's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I have Tricare too... I didn't have to do a supervised diet but that may be because I am Tricare North/Standard. I had my first consult June 13th and my surgery is set for August 9th. What took so long is that at the consult, the surgeon/nurses are going to ask you to get labs done (to make sure you are physically able to withstand the beating your body is going to take from surgery and to make sure you are currently getting the nutrients you need) and see their nutritionist (because the diet after the surgery is graduated back into normal solid food from liquids over a 1 to 2 month time span and they need to know you understand that... also that you understand various problems that may arise if you don't get the nutrients that you need). Also, with Tricare you need to have a referral from a Psychologist the specializes in weight loss surgery (they basically determine if your expectations are realistic with the surgery, if you are emotionally stable to handle all the the changes, and to make sure you don't have any alcohol or drug addictions). After all that (assuming that your surgeon doesn't require any other classes), the surgeon's office needs to send in an insurance "package" with all of the classes, referral letters, and BMI in order to get approval from the insurance company. WLS is one of those surgeries that requires PRIOR approval and they won't cover it if it is just billed to the company after the fact without that approval. Tricare is quick with the approval but slow with sending out the proper documentation to make the approval official to the surgeon's office... mine took 2 days to approve but 2 weeks to get the documentation to my surgeon for the go ahead. PLUS you have to realize these surgeons are booked weeks in advance (and sometimes months in advance) for the surgery... I was lucky and there was a cancellation for two weeks after my surgeon got the approval. I don't think 2 months of a wait is that bad... but I don't know of anyone that got their surgery in less than a month (and they were all self pay!!!). Good luck at your consultation and keep us posted... And if you already knew all this information, sorry. I tend to go overboard and give waaaaaayyyy to much information sometimes. -
I regretted the decision 48 hours out from the surgery because of the hellish nausea I was not prepared to endure. (yes..i was told nausea could be slight to moderate)..I even had hyperemesis gravidarum during my pregnancy with my daughter..so I am no stranger to nausea with eye popping vomitting) Nothing..and I mean nothing seemed to settle the nausea..I had a scopolamine patch, and phenergan and Zofran giving every two hours alternatively. Some nurse shoved an alcohol pad up my nose thinking it would help and completely choked me. I literally told my husband that I couldn't live with the intense nausea I was experiencing and wanted the dear Lord to take me home if it didn't subside. BUT at the 72 hour marker ..it got better..and better every day. Now..the only time nausea hits me is if I try a food I know probably won't suit ..and honestly..I dislike the nausea so I stay away from foods that I know I don't tolerate. Anyway..I don't regret my decision now..down 75# since April 3rd. Life is way better!
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Hey all!!!! I have a predicament. You see, my birthday was yesterday... I drank alcohol on Saturday, but was still within my caloric intake. Well last night, I ate according to planning on drinks for my birthday, but unfortunately, I over drank with the alcohol..... Ultimately my body is more supseptible to alcohol since being banded. I've only PBed a few times, but last night I actually threw up..... Now I'm nervous about band slippage.... I'm so mad at myself... And I am not a huge drinker to begin with. Good thing is everything feels fine. No pain, reflux or anything, am I being a worry wart? I tell ya, I will not partake in any more alcoholic beverages in large quantities ever again.... Funny thing is, I had only 1 drink and 1 shot... Guess I'm a lightweight lol. How will you know if there is band slippage? 5/28/12 pre-op diet started (217lbs) 6/14/12 Surgery 1.8cc added to 10cc band (205lbs). 7/17/12 1st fill (194lbs). 7/24/12 (191lbs)
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First Fill Today...not Sure What To Expect. Fill Me In.
jen_1381 replied to DeeNice's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
I was so nervous before my first fill, I almost asked him not to do it. It's actually super easy and it doesn't hurt hardly at all. Each surgeon is different I'm sure, but mine just had me lay on the table, he felt around for my port (had me do a crunch to help it stick out), swabbed the area with alcohol to clean it, drew up the saline to inject, then poked it in. It hurts way less than a tetanus shot (if you've ever had one of those). When my surgeon pushes the saline in, he puts in a small amount then draws it back out to confirm he's in the port. Once Fluid comes back out (indicating he's in), he injects the rest. I then have to stay in the office for 5 minutes and sip Water to make sure it all goes down okay. I do 24 hours of liquids then 24 hours of mushy food, then back to normal. Each surgeon is different, but that's the general idea. -
I heard too many horror stories about Alcohol so I won't even attempt it. I used to drink in social settings basically from peer pressure do I won't be a "lame". But I can careless now, no way I wanna dump over something as foolish as liquor. If I'm gonna dump its gonna be for something serious like my grandma peach cobbler or uncle tea cakes! I don't even plan on those so alcohol is seriously the least thing I'd be thinking about. With smoking, every since the 3rd grade when they showed a healthy lung and then a lung that's been smoking for 5 years I told myself then NEVER EVER will I smoke anything.
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Attention ! Australian Sleevers
Aussiegirl replied to Lavea's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Tablets were hard initially. I had chewable Vitamins and also the nexium which i cut in half and was the hardest. Thankfully I did not need any pain killers for pain while I was recovering. Random fact, since surgery I have barely taken pain killers for anything. Pre-surgery I had constant headaches, joint pain, sporting injuries, basically alot of generalised pain. Since surgery almost nothing, I think I have taken pain medication 3 times in 10 months, and one of those times was due to too much alcohol. -
Psychological Evaluation?
swmr2006 replied to CamyMarie12's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I only had one visit and a "test" (which was more like a survey on drug/alcohol use, eating patterns, and emotional balance). My insure covered some of the cost buy my additional fee was only $40 to cover the test analysis... Plus my psychologist had my letter written in about 5 mins. -
I do not have full dentures but I have a piece that connects to a prosthesis that used to be my cheek, and I understand your worries - I am getting it replaced with a piece that locks in with posts, and I have been told they can do this with dentures too - AND it reduces your dependency on the adhesives (which I have to use) - you dont want to swallow that on your tummy!!! Consider inquiring about this. An essentials kit you want to keep, in my opinion: You have to be so extremely proactive about oral hygeine now. that protien will stick to surfaces and you can develop bacterial infections, cycts, nodes and fungal infections...I have experienced only one and it was enough. OUCH. Alcohol based mouthwash OR yes, VODKA - I rinse my nouth out with it once a day... soft washcloth and toothpaste - I seriously think toothpaste on a rag after brushing is very good for your upper and lower palette - I was introduced to this in rehab therapy after the incident that caused me to need said replacement. If you are worried about retrieving your dentures from the toilet - which I would be much more than flushing them...or getting your face unnecessarily close to a public stall - get a few paperbags and some uncented trash bag liners for small trash cans and prep soem "flight bags" the paperbag keeps it discreet if you need it. Good luck if you think I might can help you further message me, I have had some experience with this.
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The Fine Line Between Acceptance And Making Excuses
Supersweetums replied to Globetrotter's topic in The Lounge
Here is the link to eggface: http://theworldaccordingtoeggface.blogspot.ca/ I think your meal plan for the day sounds pretty reasonable. If you are looking to cut a little from it, I agree with the above, maybe some sugar free jam. Also, what kind of dressing are you using on your salad. Regular Caesar dressing is very high in fat, calories and carbs. And I think a little bit of chocolate isn't going to kill you either (but a whole bad of m&m's that is a different story). I am a firm believer in moderation. I agree with UTGal99, that it is unrealistic the expect that you will NEVER eat any kind of treat ever again. I have to laugh when I see people say that they will NEVER eat cake, chocolate, fast food, alcohol, or anything bad EVER again. The sleeve is a tool and you DO have to change your habits and adopt a healthy lifestyle. But to place the expectation on yourself that you will never eat anything bad ever again is just setting yourself up for failure and self-deprecating behavior. The cycle of eating, shame and guilt, and eating more is so burned into our brains, that so many people continue to do it even after the surgery. From the beginning, I choose not to count anything. I watch what I eat, have changed what I eat, and I have worked with my sleeve to be successful. Do I eat chocolate sometimes? Yup! Do I eat ice cream sometimes? You better believe it! Do I feel bad about? Not a chance! I didn't get the sleeve so I could live the rest of my life on a strict diet. The key is I eat these things in moderation. And I know my weaknesses. The surgery did NOT give me any more will power. I have chosen not to keep trigger foods in my house. If they are there tempting me, I will eat them. This may be a stance that you may have to take. I may have lost more slowly that some, but I am still losing 20 months post op and am below my target weight. You need to find a system that is going to work for you. Look back at what you were doing before that was working. The point is, it has to be something that you can live with for the rest of your life, not just for the here and now to lose the last few pounds. If it is not sustainable, you might lose, but you will most likely end up gaining back. -
Surgery Tomorrow.... Pre-Op Torture
Izuri replied to Sherry77's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Woohoo! The day is finally here for you =D It will fly by! That listerine swish sounds brutal, I have to buy the non-alcoholic listerine, the burning just kills my mouth. You'll be in my thoughts and prayers! -
Was going to get mad at myself for not fully embracing my 6 week lower carb diet. But then I realized I gave up coke zero and other sodas, cut coffee down to 1 to 2 a day, and cut all alcoholic drinks to 1 - 2 a week. I actually don't have an official Sept date yet, but just had EKG and sleep study.... So that should be all I had left for approval. Maybe an official surgery date will help. Now I am struggling some with fast food, ice cream and carb treats. I have resisted a lot, but have not made the best choices. I do have a close family member in the hospital, that adds stress. So I just wanted that out here for support and accountability. Thx
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I have been thinking about how I got to where I am now. How I got to be so unhealthy. I love food and food is a big part of socializing in American society. I was talking to a college friend of mine and they are big too. We came up with the following explanation. It doesn't fit EVERY situation but I think it is possible to sum it up for most bandsters. We are "Food Aholics" (FAs).We love food and like to socialize with others. The main difference between FAs and alcoholics and drug addicts is that you have to eat in order to live. We can't just abstain from alcohol or illicit substances. It's not possible for us to step away from our "drug" and continue to live life. We have made the conscious choice to make changes in ourselves and our lives by getting banded. We want to live our lives and be happier than we were. I think that some of us are "wired" for tastes of food. I love the taste of some foods. I love it so much that it goes to excess. That's how I got to where I am, I know it. I read a lot in the forums and my heart goes out to those that are chastised for getting the band or making choices that they are being judged for. I would advise that you focus on you and to hell with the nay-sayers. At the risk of sounding uneducated, "Haters gotta/gonna hate." There are some people that want you to stay bigger so they can feel better about themselves. You don't need those types of idiots in your life. If someone asks you how you are doing, and you told them about getting banded then educate them on how it works. The best remedy for ignorance is education. Good Luck!
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The people I was working with would genuinely be concerned with me if I was sick. So being out of the office for a couple of days would have been noticable. I told people that I trusted, not people I didn't. If word got around, oh flippin well. I ate healthier than most of them any way. For me, my band is about helping with portion control. I was eating pretty darn healthy any way. Don't get me wrong, I love the occasional cheeseburger but who doesn't? No one ever said anything to me about "should you be eating that?" because I would say something right back about what they do. I agree with a previous post about people need to tend to themselves instead of you. We as (what I'm going to call us, if you take offense sorry) "food Aholics" (FAs) don't need to be chastised for any small misstep we may have. We FAs chastise ourselves enough and don't need others making us feel worse. The main difference between FAs and alcoholics and drug addicts is that you have to eat in order to live. We can't just abstain from alcohol or illicit substances. In order to live, your body needs fuel. Pretty soon we'll be told we can live on the nutrients in the air alone. Everything is bad for you, regardless of what it is. It's all bs, in my opinion. If you know in your heart that you have made some positive changes in your eating habits then $crew the rest of them. If you start doubting yourself, I recommend a food diary. Sucks to record everything but it shows proof of what you are doing to you.
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Tired Of The "when Can You Have___ Again?" Questions
lollyfidy1965 replied to gustavo52974's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
LOL I've experienced this sort of this...both in my "real world", and in reading posts on this website! I'm amazed, almost daily, by the posts (here) that read "I'm X number of days post-surgery...when can I have (insert bad food/drink/behavior here) again??"! I rarely respond to those posts...sometimes its just better to keep my mouth shut... LOL As for people in my life, I tend to treat each question (and, Lordy, have there every been questions!!) as an opportunity to educate the other person regarding the realities of this surgery, and life afterwards. Oddly enough, the thing that seems to raise the most eyebrows is when I decline ordering a drink (and by drink I mean a non-alcoholic beverage) with my dinner. That really seems to throw waitresses right off their game! LOL Let people be amazed and bewildered by the lifestyle changes and choices we're making....maybe our example will make a difference in someone else's life one day! -
Hey thanks for the info.im not a alcoholic bt do see myself having a drink here on there on special occasions.ill just keep it truthful to you n myself..yeah thts the info i had also.family members havent horrible stuff from youtube trying to scare me out of it.
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I plan on not drinking ever again after the surgery because there is such a high rate of alcohol abuse in RnY patients. Alcohol is absorbed differently after the surgery. You get drunk quicker with a small amount and sober up quicker. Many patients find this enjoyable, and keep repeating the process. I mean, I could see myself having a small amt if wine on a special event like my wedding day lol, but I expect to avoid alcohol at all costs.
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Whts the scoop on drinking with having the surgery??you tube has some horrible results.need all info.
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Tired Of The "when Can You Have___ Again?" Questions
JenniJune replied to gustavo52974's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Interestingly enough, I was just asked by a friend last night when I can drink alcohol again and was appalled when I said "probably never". Her idea of drinking alcohol is getting drunk and acting stupid. Someday I may be able to have a glass of wine or a craft beer, but honestly I have no desire for it. -
Tired Of The "when Can You Have___ Again?" Questions
gustavo52974 posted a topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I'm 20 days post-op and I've explained as much as I could to my friends and family what this surgery is all about. But no matter how much I explain it to these people, they keep asking me the "When can you have ____?" questions. You know, "When can you have ice cream again?" "When can you have hamburgers again?" "When can you drink alcohol again?" It seems all they're interested in is when I can start eating/drinking certain foods again. They just don't get it. I've tried to be patient and explain to them that it's not just a surgery, it's also a lifestyle change. But they seem to fixate on the whole "timeline" aspect of it. And they never stop to consider that the last thing I want to do is think about all the foods I can't have yet (or can't have anymore). And god forbid I tell them something like, "I can't have soda anymore," they respond with that wide-eyed "No!! Oh wowwww!!!" in a tone that clearly indicates galactic doom. It's just not what I need right now and I've had to brusquely tell them to stop talking to me about it. I feel bad, but I can't take it anymore. Has anyone else encountered this phenomenon? -
I had a plethora of NSVs this week that I totally didn't even realize! It's probably a good thing since the scale hasn't been moving much (almost 5 weeks out). I need any kind of victory I can get! 1. went off the (low) diving board at a public pool for the first time in years! I have a torn meniscus and was always afraid I wouldn't be able to get up the ladder. I also had fears of snapping the board in half! lol 2. I went out to dinner for the first time since being allowed real food and stayed on the plan. I actually went out twice, got chicken once and seafood once (all baked or grilled)... had maybe two bites of the accompanying mashed potatoes and rice (forgot to substitute my sides). 3. Went out bar-hopping with college friends and didn't drink a single drop of alcohol! These friends do not know about surgery and I want to keep it that way for the time being. I had to get very creative since there were many toasts to the newly engaged friend and to my weight loss (ha ha- the irony). An 8oz bottle of Water fit great in my purse for my trips to the bathroom! lol 4. I actually went to bars both nights this weekend and made it home without stopping for fast food. I used to be the queen of 4th meal- Taco Bell, Wendys, McDs. I was ssoooo tempted (this was the hardest NSV) on my way home because I was actually hungry. Instead, last night when I came home I had a few salami roll-ups and tonight had some milk. 5. I finally joined My Fitness Pal and started tracking my food. It's definitely not as difficult or time-consuming as I expected (the reason I put it off). 6. I went to see my psychologist for the first time since surgery. I was seeing her long before surgery and she was actually the biggest advocate of this for me and facilitated the discussion with my mom because I was too terrified. Anyway... she didn't recognize me! Legitimately, she wasn't just saying that. I was wondering why she didn't say hi to me when I saw her sitting outside the building! Whoo hoo! As always, thanks for all the support! Love this place!
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Worried About Psychologist
vsginnj replied to Chubarella's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Sorry about your husband that can't be easy. I would be sure to work into the conversation that surgery was planned before hubby's indiscretion,and not a reaction to it.depression did not exclude me ,it's best to disclose it and how it is effectively being treated; meds,therapy ect. Remember surgery is a tool and you have to take responsibility for lots of changes in your lifestyle so any success along those lines are also worth mentioning ie. quitting smoking, drinking or drug sobriety especially if long term . Basically be honest and you should be fine, the nurse at my surgeon told me that in 11 years only 1 guy was disqualified ,he was an alcoholic in denial. Do you have support post op? A friend or sibling that can stay with you for a couple of days ? That is something you might want have in place before you disclose that your husband left. Don't say deserted to psychologist, say he chose to leave ,how you phrase things matters! Keep your chin up ,good luck and God bless you! -
I like the Pure Protein bars. 20 grams protein, around 180 cals, 3 net carbs (17 carb - 13 sugar alcohol - 1 fiber = 3 net carbs... At least I think that is how that works!)
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