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My surgeons office has a one year minimum on alcohol, but not everyone follows that. Let me tell you about my uncle though... he had Gastric Bypass and a few weeks after surgery he thought it'd be okay to start drinking beer. He had one about every other day. A few months go by and... they tell him he has cirrhosis of the liver. The thing is that before his surgery there was absolutely nothing wrong with his liver. Now after drinking 3-4 beers a week he developed cirrhosis. Apparently it's rare and only happens in like 2% of people (or so he was told), but within six months he was dead. My uncle had lost 180 pounds and had the surgery to extend his life because he had a young daughter and now she'll never remember him. He's been gone for four years. Don't drink until the doc tells you ok and even after that monitor your health really closely because you don't know if that 2% will be you. Just a word of warning... Also, I didn't tell you this to scare you, I just wanted to caution you on how serious it is to follow the doctor's orders. I can't help but think that if my uncle had waited the full year that he might still be alive.
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WOW WHAT A JOURNEY - FEELING AMAZING - never thought I'd get this far 😛
New&Improved posted a topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
What a ride this journey has been. I never thought I would ever get this far and definitely not this quickly. I have worked so hard though; was super strict on myself from day 1; I feel that is just my nature; it's either 110% or its nothing.. go hard or go home!!! So one morning I just decided this is the day I'm going to start my diet and change my life. I had spent the past 15+ years of my life helping everyone else in my family and ignoring my own health issues mental and physical.. I researched the surgery options and trawled this website for months whilst waiting for my surgery to happen. I found a great doctor and surgeon and he agreed with me that the roux en y bypass was definitely my best chance at success and a future. I took everyone's advice on board but ultimately I knew it would be my choice and my decision to change my life. I also gave up alcohol now nearly 4 years ago.. I started journey at the highest weight of 322LBS with multiple comorbidities and medications keeping me alive. Eventually I went into hospital on October 28th 2019 and had the bypass surgery and I knew there was no turning back; its now on me to prove to everyone including the doubters I could do it!!! Here I am 6 months and 9 days later and this morning I weighed in at 175.5LBS and I'm not sure if my body is even done yet... I've had a few stalls along the way but none longer than 1 week so I've been very lucky; I've stuck to my diet pretty religiously since day one.. I was using protein shakes pretty much for the whole first 5 months with some small things like yoghurt and tuna but the past few weeks I've been adding more carbs and experimenting with real foods and not being so strict but still keeping focused on my weight of course. For the first time in my life I feel normal and I feel happy and excited for the future and I never thought I would get this far 175.5lbs is an amazing effort which equals to 146.5lbs lost gone forever in just over 6 months!!! I hope I can show others it is possible to change your life for the better you just have to be committed, you have to be mentally prepared, you have to be doing this for yourself and nobody else!!! I hope I can be an inspiration to others!!! Love Mikey -
Gaining weight nearly 3 years post gastric bypass
FluffyChix replied to Jessiemay's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
All of this will cause/contribute to weight gain/prevent losses. In addition to the hormones. If you are drinking any calories (alcohol), that will also put the weight on like nobody's beeswax. I could be guaranteed to gain 5 lbs overnight any time I took my old pain meds that I no longer take. -
Yep, these were my carb intake levels as well during weight loss phase. BUT I counted NET carbs for my totals (All carbs minus dietary fibre minus sugar alcohols). Are you numbers total or NET? I stayed away from added sugar, bread, rice, pasta, potatoes, beans, root vegetables and fruit (except the occasional berry). Of course there were a few days in there when I would have a drink or a bite of dessert but these were very, very rare occasions. I could probably count on one hand how many times I indulged in carbs during weight loss phase.
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Coke is a highly additive drug, and then there is the complication of transfer of an addiction. Some people after weight loss surgery transfer a food addiction to alcohol or drugs. As above, hopefully at the very least she can be encouraged to be discuss with her doctor.
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Post rny throw up
BlueEyedAngel28 replied to GettinSkinnywithit's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
I am 2 yrs 4 months out They never tell u puking will never be the same when I throw up it jus looks like pink slime. You have to gag up ur puke. And when you drink alcohol and you feel so sick you try to throw up and you can not no matter how hard you try. Surgery was worth it and u will get usta the way you throw up but I wish there was alot more info lol Sent from my LG-M150 using BariatricPal mobile app -
can someone please help me understand my husband?
Machalo replied to thewifehere's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Alcoholism is a terrible disease. Yes, I said disease. It isn't about willpower or lack thereof, or just choosing not to drink. To an alcoholic it is a coping mechanism for whatever, stress, uncomfortable emotions. One little drink won't hurt. But there is never one little drink. I grew up in an alcoholic household; I didn't understand it, I tried to help stop it, during every attempt, but nothing helped until my parent decided to do it for themself. I still didn't really understand, since I'd never had an addiction. I viewed my parent as weak-willed. I didn't understand until I found my own addiction: cigarettes. They were the hardest thing to give up 25 years ago, but I was able to use a new tool - the nicotine patch - that changed my habits while weaning me off the nicotine. I will never forget how grateful I was for that tool! I still had to do the work, but the tool helped so much. Now, I'm fighting my unhealthy addiction to food and am planning to use my new weight-loss surgery tool to help me make changes for the better. It isn't a magic pill, it doesn't do it for you, and it isn't temporary. That's like having a temporary fix for alcohol. You're going to go back to it. No. Weight loss surgery is permanent. You have to change what you do with food and how you look at food. It takes hard work every single day. But, it's not impossible. As I'm struggling with my own addictions now, I can have more empathy with my parent all those years ago for struggling to and not quite being able to give up their drinking. If you've never had an addiction, then you just aren't going to understand. Your husband may have to hit "bottom" before he decides to do something about his addictions, and then he will really need your support and willingness to help him in any way possible. I understand your frustrations since it is affecting your and your childrens' lives. This is still on him, though. You can't do it for him, he has his free will. What you have to decide is whether or not you are committed enough to wait for him. Wishing you both all the best! -
can someone please help me understand my husband?
momof3_angels replied to thewifehere's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Honestly, the only advise I have to give is to seek counseling. You both need counseling, together and separately. You need it for your marriage to become stronger. He needs it to figure out what is driving him to drink and overeat. You may need it for other reasons, but I don't know you so I won't pretend that I do. But counseling will help both of you work through your issues and perhaps help him overcome some of what is driving him to drink and overeat. And with that... he may CHOSE to lose weight. He may CHOSE to have surgery to help him. But it has to be HIS choice. And you have to figure out whether you can love him the way he is. Can you love him despite alcoholism? Can you love him despite the fact that he makes unhealthy choices? Can you love him despite the fact that he is fat? If the answer to any of these is "NO", then you need to consider whether or not you should be married in the first place. Or if you decide you want to be married, you need to figure out how to live with him if he doesn't change. Only you know what is in your heart and what you can live with and who you can love through anything. But deal with both of your issues so that if he has surgery (or not), you can support him in a way that will actually help him. And if he wants surgery, go to the appointments with him. Talk to the surgeon and nutritionist WITH him. Surgery is a wonderful tool for weight loss. I hope he takes advantage of it, but he has to be ready for this change. -
Since the topic of WLS, alcohol, and France was brought up, I looked through about ten French articles about the subject. In France, TEN TIMES more people (per capita) undergo WLS than in the U.S., most likely due to the fact that WLS is covered by their Securite Sociale. Only one article mentioned when patients could resume drinking alcohol. It mentioned between three and six months. But the French articles about weight loss surgery were much more precautious about the effects of alcohol post-surgery. Every single one warned that alcohol was much differently and more quickly absorbed after WLS. Here's one example: l’alcoolémie augmente plus vite, plus haut et descend moins vite après l’ingestion de la boisson. Du fait de la dérivation intestinale et de la petite poche gastrique, l’absorption de l’alcool après by-pass est beaucoup plus rapide : avec un verre de vin le seuil légal d’alcoolémie (0,5 g/L) est atteint au bout de quelques minutes (alors que ce n’était pas le cas avant la chirurgie). Translation: The blood alcohol level rises faster, higher and goes down more slowly after ingestion of the drink. Due to the intestinal bypass and the small gastric pouch, the absorption of alcohol after bypass is much more fast : with a glass of wine the legal blood alcohol threshold (0.5 g / L) is reached after a few minutes (whereas this was not the case before surgery).
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Tread lightly, and google "weight loss surgery alcoholism" as there are many studies that say 1 in 5 WLS patients end up with alcohol problems. I knew this personally before I ever started the process, b/c I have a friend who had WLS 10 years ago, and then spent the next 9 years in and out of inpatient care for alcoholism. She lost custody of her children in the process as well. She is currently sober for 6 months or so, but still living in a group home. I don't know if she belongs to some kind of support group for WLS/alcoholism, but sometimes she will post something on FB about it, and will get tons of replies from other women who indicate they had the same problems with alcoholism following WLS. I confess that I stalked her FB thoroughly as I was making the decision to have WLS myself. I decided that if I was going to have WLS, I was going to abstain from alcohol for life. I was never a big drinker (maybe 10 times a year at social events, weddings, etc), so for me to make the commitment to never drink again isn't a big deal. I do understand that would be more difficult for someone who is used to relaxing with a glass of wine every night. I would never suggest that everyone who has WLS needs to abstain from alcohol for life, but would just ask everyone to be careful. If after drinking you feel the slightest bit out of control, start craving alcohol, etc, please seek help before it's too late. Sorry to ramble, but seeing what this friend has gone through is truly heartbreaking, and I thought about her a lot as I decided whether or not to have the surgery.
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It was my doctor that told me that the stomach does not digest alcohol the same way as before surgery. He was the one that told me that your metabolism does not process acohol effectively and yes a sip would affect differently post surgery I don't think anyone is on here to scare anyone. We are just sharing information told to us by our medical professionals.
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Strangely, my surgeon's written rule for alcohol was wait one year, especially after his only fatality was a patient who binge-drank and died of alcohol poisoning. But when I went for my six month checkup, my surgeon had said "If you want to have an occasional glass of wine, it's okay." Nonetheless, I haven't touched alcohol. For me, it would be a slippery slope.
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I enjoy craft and specialty beers, when I user to live close to a WOB location it was a weekly visit. Unfortunately, where I live now there is no local WOB but the question about drinking beer & alcohol drinks was one of my top 5 questions and I was not very happy with the answer. All thee surgeons I spoke to over the course of about a year (Since May 2019) said the same thing: NO Alcohol drinks, including beer during the first year post-op. ☹️
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I always hated water too. But I was early in on DNA testing (15+ years ago) and have run it through several scientific data bases. I was not surprised to find out I am what they sometimes call a “super taster” - someone who has a gene that results in tasting bitter tastes far more strongly than others. I would bet you have the same gene. So alcohol? Bleck! Black coffee? Not happening. And I never liked water, it has a slight bitterness. Explained a lot I thought since what covers bitter coffee taste? Sugar and cream and lots of it. I cannot drink water plain so I was delighted she the water enhances (SF) came out. They make all the difference for me!
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can someone please help me understand my husband?
thewifehere replied to thewifehere's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
You guys. Wow. Thank you for the responses. I mentioned earlier that we have other marriage problems... most of our marriage (since I was pregnant with #1 so 8 years at least) has been fighting about beer/drinking and also his weight gain/unhealthy life choices. I realized last year that he was early stage alcoholic, he uses it for coping with stress from a high power job. Didn’t know what being an alcoholic really meant until I educated myself and once I figured it out I was done (another story for another day). Once I realized this I was very clear, quit or we are getting divorced. Through a few ups and downs the last few months he’s admitted he has an alcohol addiction and had quit. But this has to also go hand and hand with the weight gain. The two have been so intertwined. I feel bad for him, I want to help him and I’ve told him for a long time that I want him to get healthy so he can be around for the kids and me. ugh this is so complicated. Sorry to spill here. My life is complicated. I go to therapy myself and we’ve gone together as well. So much therapy. I worry that if he decides on WLS it will only be to save our marriage and I don’t know if that’s a good enough reason to do it, I don’t want him unhappy with his decision and ending up making things worse. yes, I also think deep down he’s depressed and I pray he works through that with his therapist. so I guess I support him if he decides to look more into WLS. We have a consultation tomorrow so I guess I’ll learn more there. -
can someone please help me understand my husband?
orange_lily replied to thewifehere's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
@Xx1jpt5xx alluded to this, but I want to emphasize it. I think it might help you understand your husband if you think about his weight and eating as an addiction, not a failing of willpower. There are studies that show that foods, especially highly palatable ones, trigger the same brain chemicals as illicit drugs. Food scientists know this and engineer food to be more palatable because it keeps you coming back for more. Unlike other addictions (alcohol, drugs, gambling...), you have to have food to survive so abstinence isn't an option. I think compassion and empathy will get you a lot farther with him than trying to convince and coerce. Most of us fighting against obesity already have a ton of shame and feel like failures that we can't just fix it. It sounds like he is aware there is an issue and wants to do something different. That is a positive in this. I am also glad he has a partner like you that clearly loves him and wants the best for him. Maybe look into tips for supporting people with addictions and try to translate those to this situation. It might also help if you and your husband attended an information seminar at a local bariatric center so you have more information on the process and procedures. -
some people get that from eating too many carbs - or from eating things with sugar alcohols in them (sugar alcohols are in "sugar free" items and usually end in -itol. Like xylitol. Or sorbitol. I can tolerate them just fine, but some people get really gassy when they eat them.
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Drinking wine
JennyFrom_TheBlock replied to imaginegirl's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
It’s a definite deal breaker. Alcohol has tons of sugar and turns directly into fat. It is likely that without giving up the wine (temporarily) you will be rejected for the surgery. I sip wine from time to tone now but my tolerance is so low now. A quarter glass gets me pretty drunk lol Good luck. -
Ask your team about there alcohol policy/timeline ❤
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we were advised by my clinic not to drink any alcohol until we were at least a year out.
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Well, I'll be honest. I drink a bottle and a half of wine a night. I told my psych and now I'm worried that I'll be refused the surgery. I've read that the doctors might consider alcoholism to be a dealbreaker. I decided to go to AA meetings to try to stop, if that's worth anything as far as surgery goes.
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Bariatric and Alcoholism....
CapyCapybara replied to disco stu's topic in Duodenal Switch Surgery Forum
If anyone is in Louisiana and wants to do an Alcohol Free challenge , you can still sign up. You don’t have to live in Louisiana to join the Facebook group and play along -
Anyone who thinks they are above transfer addiction is delusional. I have noticed I am spending too much on clothing lately. I need to keep an eye on it. It isn’t a problem yet but it could be... I wish the best for all of you struggling with alcohol. Hugs!
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Bariatric and Alcoholism....
GrungeGrownUp replied to disco stu's topic in Duodenal Switch Surgery Forum
Congratulations on acknowledging that you have a problem with alcohol and resize something is wrong. Are you interested in 12 steps? If not can you meet with your doctor? My husband and I stopped drinking a little over a year ago. It was very rough for him. I was never a big drinker and never drank beer, so me quitting in support of him was right to do. Do you have sober friends? We found out that hanging out with other sober peep and having fun while sober, retrained our brains so to speak to start to realize that we can have fun without alcohol. If you need to talk, PM me. Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk -
Bariatric and Alcoholism....
disco stu replied to disco stu's topic in Duodenal Switch Surgery Forum
Unfortunately, it's a life long problem. You can't ever be 'cured' of alcoholism. The only solution is to NEVER drink again. THat's a real tough notion for most of us.
