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July 2021 Surgery People!
Candace76 replied to Sammys_VSG_Evolution's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I agree, the full liquid phase seems to be going very slowly. I had my sleeve the same day as your revision. I started full liquids on Thursday (29th) and don't move to soft stage until August 10th. Getting tired of broths & shakes, but knowing this is temporary makes it easier. Sometimes I even feel like I wouldn't want anything to eat anyway, those times makes it easier. Then other times I really want something other than what I can have. I am looking forward to that soft food stage! (No purée stage on my plan) Yesterday, I added Genepro to my Crystal Light and my soup (half serving of genepro in each), that way I only needed 1 protein shake. Do you, or anyone else have anything they did during full liquid that makes it easier or more interesting? We'll be on to a new phase before we know it, we just got to hang in there! Hoping everyone is doing well with their progress. 😊 (Scale isn't moving as much as I thought it would my first week🙄, but it's moving) -
I know there are some controversies with Genepro, but considering everything else I have tried makes me nauseous, I figure I am getting at least something from it. I do taste Genepro in certain situations, but with the right proportions, do not. for example, I do not taste it in 3 cups of Crystal light. I did taste it in oatmeal, so only do half a scoop now.
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I can handle the protein shakes, fortunately. I get 60 grams of my prescribed 60 to 80 from to of the Pure Protein brand shakes. Eight or so more from 3 ounces of cottage cheese. I may still try the GENEPRO to see whether it's palatable mixed in oatmeal. For me, water doesn't taste bad, I just can't drink very much at once.
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I can taste the genepro a little. I put it in one ounce of OJ and 3 ounces of water and chase it with decaf tea sweetened with splenda. I got to a point where all I could eat was tuna and never enjoyed it. So, the genepro has been a real help. It can cause constipation. I got off of it for a few days due to that but immediately went downhill with weakness. My friend who suggested the genepro puts it in a smotthie with a vanilla protien shake but I'm still averse to the shakes. Can't stand them.
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Congrats on your success! I'm about 7 weeks from surgery. I bought a bunch of foods I thought I wood want, and I just don't enjoy them. Maybe they will still be good when my taste for them returns. My favorite thing to eat now is cottage cheese with canned pineapple. I eat it every day. Is the Genepro unflavored really tasteless? I tried adding a vanilla flavored one (another brand) to my Cream of Wheat, and I couldn't stomach that either.
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I am now 5 months from surgery. I've had horrible food aversions but some of that is easing. I can now eat bacon again. Before, it was disgusting. The same can be said of a few other foods. I'd love to be able to tolerate chicken but it's still off the menu. I am taking tasteless GENEPRO twice a day, 60 grams to keep my protien up and it is giving me some strength back. Also, I've switched to a 1 a day bariatric vitamin. Weight loss as of now is 118 pounds and my goal is 210 pounds. Hope this encourages some who are struggling. Stick with it.
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I was thinking of trying tge lemonade, iced tea and crystal sky. I also bought the genepro, but have only tried it in sugarfree jello, so far. I dis order the bariatric pal fruit drinks. I wonder if they are similar to the Nectar drinks. I only tried pineapple orange from the multi pack. It was pretty good, a nice change from the protein shakes.
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Have you tried an alternate protein source? Shakes made me nauseous, but Genepro is tasteless in Crystal Light and doesn’t bother me.
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Yes! You are not alone! I had a swallow study done to make sure it was not a stricture. It turns out that my pouch was just overly sensitive. The surgeon said this happens sometimes, and can take two months for some people to get over the hump. I was throwing up eight times a day at one point, while on anti-nausea meds 24/7, then it nearly stopped around week seven. I did not get my fluids, protein, or all of the supplements in until two months out. Everything turned out OK, though. I did not have to be readmitted. The first thing that felt good to me was chicken broth from Chick-fil-A. Then, chicken or tilapia. Eventually, I was able to tolerate water and Crystal light again. I found Genepro protein powder which is the only protein supplement that I can tolerate. When I use it in certain proportions, I cannot taste or smell it. Pills were also a trigger for me, so I tried liquid or chewable supplements as much as possible. I also drank apple juice or cranberry juice in the first few weeks since it did not make me sick. I am sure you are already sipping slowly. Talk with your surgeons office to make sure there is nothing wrong, but hopefully you will get past this soon. It is so difficult, good luck. 😀
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July 2021 Surgery People!
Candace76 replied to Sammys_VSG_Evolution's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Hi Mama Des, Congrats on the surgery. I'm sorry to hear you are in so much pain, and so hungry. I'm not sure what your allowed and what you have tried, but here are some things I am going to try after surgery (and am using now, pre op): broth (w/ or w/out genepro), s.f. jello (genepro can be added here, too), s.f. electrolyte drink mix, s.f. popsicles, s.f. drink mixes, and once in full liquid stage s.f. yogurt & farina/cream of wheat thinned with milk. I had a sample of a broth that was made by Bariatric fusion, it was pretty tasty. The nectar protein drinks have some flavors that seem more like juice, lemon aid, fruit punch or iced tea. I haven't tried those yet. I hope you find something to make this phase easier, good luck, & tell us if you find anything that worked for you. -
July 2021 Surgery People!
Candace76 replied to Sammys_VSG_Evolution's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Soonlee_W, You can do this! You are so close to your surgery, this post op diet is tough, but temporary. Glad you are ready to follow the doctor's plan to prepare for your new VSG lifestyle. I'm here doing pre op with you! I don’t love it. I'm tired of my chocolate shakes & my beef broth was nasty, but I know it will be worth it! Today, I bought some vanilla & strawberry shakes to mix it up a little, and I will stick to chicken & veggie broth. Are you allowed the s.f. popsicles & s.f. jello? I added some protein (genepro) to the raspberry jello last night, it was something to look forward to at the end of the day. (And I am not a jello fan) Congratulations on the 4 pounds, and it is great to see you get back on track! -
When will the stall end??
SummerTimeGirl replied to It’sMe's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Interesting. I've thought about this and wondered if the lack of protein could be my problem/reason for my stalls. There are MANY days where my protein only falls around half, or a little more than half, of what I should be getting a day. I need to concentrate on upping it, I think. And if I can't with food at least taking it in the form of Genepro. That will get me where I need to be quickly/easily. -
Things to get before and after surgery recommendations
kellym1220 replied to xjjano75's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Make sure you have enough protein shakes to last for one or two weeks...I WAY over bought and have had to throw expired stuff away. Even if you like something before surgery, there is no guarantee you will like it after! However, I second the 2 oz cups with lids. I still use those for nuts, salad dressings, etc and right after surgery, I used them for sugar free jello mixed with Genepro protein powder. -
Postop diet advice
Dogmom68 replied to Michele 2021's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
First of all, congratulations on your weight loss! 25 lbs is great! However, I do understand how you feel when your weight loss slows or stalls. What I did recently was cut back on dairy and carbs and started incorporating more healthy fats like avocado and green olives. I even started drinking bulletproof coffee in the morning. (Coffee with a teaspoon of Kerrygold unsalted butter. Trust me, you can’t taste it.) I stopped drinking protein shakes and use GenePro protein powder to supplement my protein levels. I use MyFitnessPal app to track my macros and keep tabs on how many calories I’m eating. I can’t exercise very well because of a spine condition but I try to stay very active around the house doing chores, etc… Watch your sugar/carb intake through yogurt and oatmeal. Try switching to boiled eggs in the morning. These are things that have worked for me. I know everybody is different but these are just suggestions. Just thought I would share. Take it one day at a time, listen to what your body tells you, and keep going! You CAN do this!!! -
July 2021 Surgery People!
Candace76 replied to Sammys_VSG_Evolution's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Hi MoreThanWords, I am still a few of weeks out, but I also was worried about what to eat, so I wanted to be prepared and get some the clear liquid & full liquid staples before I start my pre op diet. I have tried some protein shakes from Unjury & Premier Protein. They were ok. Not a fan of vanilla now, but that may change after surgery or if I get tired of chocolate. I like adding them to coffee (Unjury had a cappuccino flavor, I want to try it with caramel flavored Premier Protein), and will probably do that once it is allowed. From Walmart, I purchased some sugar-free drink mixes, chicken broth, veggie broth, beef broth, sugar free jello, & sugar free ice pops. Some items were name brand and others were Walmart brands. Trying to save $ where I can as supplements, vitamins etc. all add up. I bought a tub of chocolate Premier Protein from Walgreens. Yesterday, I placed my first order on BariatricPal and ordered Aunt Millie's broths (pho & Thai), BP Protein soups, BP protein fruit drinks, & Genepro Unflavored protein mix. Last week I ordered some cups for shakes, water, & broth. I got one cup with a strainer for traveling (in case I need to order soup & strain it). I still need to get vitamins, hibiclens, and prilosec before the surgery. Before the puree & soft stages I want to purchase a mini portable chopper/processor & food scale. Thanks for sharing the recipe. I see us probably having a lot of broth and soups in those first few weeks. Jenfs5, thanks for recommending Fairlife, I want to try that brand now, too. Also worried about those clear liquid days (after surgery probably won't be bad as it isn't long and based on others experiences-you aren't that hungry at first). Hopefully, the excitement of being so close to our surgery will make it a little easier. I read other people say that the broth helped fill them up and jello helped give the chewing feeling. (Not a big fan of jello, but when you are only allowed a few things it may be nice to have) Best of luck everyone! -
The very few times that I had success drinking a protein shake after surgery, it took me an hour or two to finish. Very slow. I have found much better luck filling a 24 oz. water bottle, adding a scoop of unflavored protein powder (Genepro is the only one that doesn’t make me nauseous), Crystal Light, and drinking over a few hours. And to another comment, my nutritionist told me vomiting isn’t normal after surgery.
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I'm in soft food right now and don't typically rely on shakes anymore cause I have been getting my protein in just fine with the foods I am eating (and if not I use a scoop of Genepro in a small amount of water (like 2 oz, usually gatorade zero) and drink that for 30 grams of protein). However, when I was in the full liquid stage I would typically finish the shakes within 30 min. No more than an hour for sure. But then, I never had an issue at all from the get go when it came to getting liquids in or keeping things down. I was one of the lucky ones, still am, who didn't have issues with nausea, sickness not being able to eat, drink etc.
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Rx Weight Loss Meds Post-op?
SummerTimeGirl replied to LAJ23's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I've never tried the Unjury brand protein powder that you say you don't always get a full scoop of so I don't know how big their portion size is but, have you tried any other brands? I know Genepro's, for example, 1 scoop of protein is way smaller (and has better absorption than many others) than others and packs more protein. In fact I know many other patients who just mix the one scoop, and some do two, to a few ounces of water or flavored water and down it as sort of a shot, just to get it in and over with for the day. Maybe you just need to sample some others? -
Suggestions for blenderized diet
lizonaplane replied to JCF's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Many people like Genepro protein. I have used it to add protein to soups and oatmeal even though I haven't had surgery yet. One thing to make sure is that you're adding the protein per the directions (don't heat the protein: mix the powder with a small amount of lukewarm water before adding it to your food). Good luck! -
I might be older than you think.. I'll be 57 on June 12th. As to what I am doing, drink, drink and drink some more. Get those fluids in and I am still on the low side myself at about 48 ounces of water/fluid a day, as they are most important even more so than protein at this point. I only drink plain water and decaf tea. I eat, Cream of Wheat, tuna, greek yogurt, jello, cream of chicken soup, and chicken or beef broth and for a treat frozen pudding pops or outshine popcicles. I have one scoop of Genepro added to either my cream of wheat or cream of chicken soup. I am limited on my protein to 43 grams a day as I have Chronic Kidney Disease. I have not done much in exercise as its only been one week other than the walking. I do plan on incorporating more exercises even those that I can do with minimal jumping around like legs lifts and arm circles. Good Luck Every One.
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Powder protien Drinks or Ready to Drink
Alex Brecher replied to LisLuva's topic in Food and Nutrition
The BariatricPal Store carries a huge selection of Bariatric friendly Protein drinks at https://store.bariatricpal.com/collections/protein-powders. Here are some popular options: BariatricPal Protein ONE: MultiVitamin, Calcium, Iron, Fiber & Meal Replacement from https://store.bariatricpal.com/collections/protein-powders/brand_bariatricpal Syntrax Nectar Protein Powder Sampler Variety Bag - All 17 Flavors! from https://store.bariatricpal.com/collections/protein-powders/products/syntrax-nectar-protein-powder-sampler-variety-bag-all-17-flavors GENEPRO Medical Grade Unflavored 30g Protein Powder - 2nd Generation! from https://store.bariatricpal.com/collections/protein-powders/products/genepro-medical-grade-unflavored-30g-protein-powder-2nd-generation Bariatric Advantage HPMR High Protein Meal Replacement - Available in 8 Flavors! from https://store.bariatricpal.com/collections/protein-powders/products/bariatric-advantage-high-protein-meal-replacement Protein tubs from https://store.bariatricpal.com/collections/protein-powder-tubs Protein Smoothies from https://store.bariatricpal.com/collections/smoothies Hot Protein Drinks & Soups are great alternatives to protein shakes: Hot Protein Drinks: https://store.bariatricpal.com/collections/hot-protein-drinks Hot Protein Soups: https://store.bariatricpal.com/collections/soups-bouillons-broths -
Just read another source that pointed out (correctly) that Genepro claims to have 30 g of protein in 58 calories, but since protein has 4 calories per g, 30gx4calories would be 120 calories IF there were 30g of protein in one serving of genepro. Boy, do I feel duped! That's the first and last time I buy anything off Facebook!
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There's actually a clinical study where it looks like it led to about the same protein levels in blood as 30g of whey protein isolate https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/results/NCT02919657 However, the participants used many other forms of protein as well, the Genepro 2 or Whey Protein Isolate just being a small source of total protein, so no way to tell what difference it makes.
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For anyone using Genepro, their product is NOT what is advertised on the amount of protein. They had a large lawsuit filed against them by a well known and established supplement company that was thrown out due to discrepancies with who owns Genepro. It’s physically impossible to have that amount of protein in a scoop that size. There’s are tons of other options in flavorless protein that is much cheaper and accurate on the grams per serving.
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I haven't had surgery yet, but I can definitely taste genepro and isopure. I find if I mix them with luke warm water and add them to things that are more strongly flavored it's more tolerable, although I can still taste it. I have had success with lobster bisque, chicken curry, and steel cut oats. I tried some canned campbell's soup and that was meh. The most important thing is not to heat up the protein powder. Also, sometimes I only use a half serving of the isopure because it's so much. Yes, a lot of people report their tastes changing after surgery, at least in the short term.
