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Too late. That already happened. An airline asked a fat guy to get off the plane because he weighed too much. Again, too late. I interviewed for a job but didn't get hired because the guy told me I was too fat to fit into the office space. Also, airline attendants and myriad other jobs have weight restrictions. They already do that for smokers, as well as the obese. Well, they will probably cover you, but for a much higher premium. Wootsie, I agree with you and will restate my position. This is simply an issue of Politically correct control; smokers are looked at as pariahs -- even those who are so very careful never to smoke around anyone. When I smoked, I took GREAT pains to ensure that my cigarette smoke was NEVER around another human being, but I was still looked upon like I was a substandard, second-class human being, as evidenced by the judgmental tenor of the majority of the comments in this thread: "If you smoke cigarettes, you are unworthy of being in the human race, and I am SO much better than you." It's just that attitude -- and not the law -- that rubs me the wrong damn way. A non-smoker is not better than me, if I choose to smoke. Just as a slender person is not better than me, if I choose to be obese. Just as a non-drinker is not better than me if I choose to drink alcohol. This is just another one of the myriad PC movements, and the cigarette smokers are getting they turn on the "let's bash a minorty" pile. A few years back it was the people who wore real fur coats. They were labeled as inhuman simply because they chose to wear an animal pelt. Well, that "bashing" ran its course, people wear fur again without fear of recrimination, and now it's some other cause in the headlines. And please spare me the "but because of your choice to smoke, I don't get a choice of NOT getting cancer from your smoke" argument. I've heard it a ka-zillion times, and I'm not saying that it's not a valid argument. What I have a problem with is this holier-than-thou attitude running rampant through this nation -- and this thread. No one is entitled to think that they are better than me, for whatever reason. Go ahead.....bash away at me now.

The alcohol posts mess with me my program preach 1 year and that’s for safety

That is right but compared to other addictions, gambling is not always destructible and if you learn how to play the game you like, create a strategy and become the best player at a particular gambling game, this can be a life-saving experience where you do the thing you like and earn money at the same time, which is perfect life I guess. I think that is real, look at the poker players, they are ridiculously rich. Sometimes I play slot demo 99 as well and I win quite often. However, you can not win anything but cirrhosis if you are an alcoholic.

Hey gang, how is everyone doing. Louisianagirl - good to see you back online. Seems like many of us are down to our final 20-25 pounds, its the hardest to lose I have found! I have about 20 more to go I think, maybe just 15. I'm at 155 and would like to get to 135 or 140. I was thinking 145, but now I think I want to go slightly lower. I'm thinking about a tummy tuck too, maybe next year. :smile2: Confused - I know its sooooo hard to fit exercise in, I do great for awhile, then I slack. Right now, I've been slacking. I must get back into the grove of things! Now that spring is on its way, I'm going to start riding my bike and get some kind of exercise that way. I took a break from my HCG diet - its also called a "Planned interruption" for a week. Well, I was supposed to eat low carb, and I started out that way, but before you know it, I was eating everything in sight, and I had over indulged in some alcohol on my girls weekend. Put on 7 pounds!!!!!! Grrrrr. Well, I started back on the HCG again last Thursday (4/1) and have lost 5 of the 7 I gained. I learned my lesson, I'm planning another interruption this month on 4/22 thru 4/25 when I go to Puerto Vallarta, but this time, I will be more sensible and not eat just because its there. I'm going to stick to good proteins and EXERCISE and limit my fruity alcohol drinks on the beach! I plan on taking some crystal light and getting some vodka shots for my drinking. Anyhow, hope everyone is doing good and had a great weekend.

See, I guess this is another pet peeve of mine. Every surgeon's program is different. There is no standard program. I agree that alcohol should be avoided because it is liquid calories. But I don't agree at all that it is a safety issue. That brings me to another pet peeve, scare mongering by surgeons and NUTS. No straws, because you'll swallow air? How do you even do that? And if you do get air in your stomach, you burp, bfd? Carbonation will stretch your sleeve. So these tiny little bubbles are powerful enough to stretch this incredibly tough organ that churns and breaks down all of our food. I'm not a Dr., but I have common sense, I just don't buy it.

Okay so since about month 2 PO, I’ve been doing TRE most days. I came across that method almost accidentally. My sleeve is so tight in the mornings that trying to get in a morning meal was hurting me and then I found myself intentionally putting off until later in the day that first meal at the same time I started reading about IF. Well, the whole concept of eating only when hungry instead of when you’re “supposed to” eat made sense to me so I did a mostly 16:8, or 14:10 (on hungry days). I mostly listened to my body. Now I’m 6.5 months PO and some bad habits were creeping in. I found myself using up valuable space with things like salad, parmesean crisps, pork rinds, pickles, kimchi, etc BEFORE I was eating protein. Oh yeah.... wine/alcohol was prominent in my diet for a 6 week stretch between mid-June through end of July. Lots of family events, 2 weddings, a vacay to NOLA and a girls night out. As a result, I only lost 12 pounds during almost 2 months so I decided I had to get very very serious starting July 23. Since then I’ve lost 13 pounds and I’ve kept on top of pre-planning and logging my food For me, the planning heavily involves when I eat as importantly as what I eat—hence the rotating IF schedules. I was doing really great until last Friday (my daughters white coat ceremony and emotions running all over the place due to some other family drama). Long story short, my daughter and one of her besties (a girl I hired as one of my techs a few years ago) wanted to go out to eat in celebration and I succumbed and took them out to our fave Mexican restaurant. I was actually pretty good— measured out 10 tortilla chips, 1 flour tortilla, and ate the insides only of one of my daughters chicken enchilada, and had a single skinny margarita, but it gave me a 1.6 pound bounce when I weighed 2 days later (lord only knows what it could’ve been the next day) Lol, previous Sheri would’ve rolled her eyes at someone who complained about gaining less than 2 pounds after eating out, but I was disappointed in myself and knew I had a decision to make. So.... we can’t forever avoid special occasions and the self-flagellation that follows , so I decided to get more aggressive with the IF for just a few days (or however long it took to rid me of the bounce) and it worked. Sunday I did 20:4, Monday I did 16:8, Tuesday I did 20:4, and by yesterday am I had gone from my Sunday am bounce weight of 172.4 down to 169.0. I’m now back on a “maintenance” TRE of 16:8 for the rest of the week and thankfully have no plans to eat out for at least a few more weeks.

Well tonight is my first party of the season and a little nervous about the whole drinking thing. But I will drink some tonight. Today I celebrate 8 weeks post op. Down 31 pounds today (all post op weight). My doctor said to wait about 8 weeks, well today is it :tt1: So my question is, does anyone have some low calorie beverage choices. I used to drink captain morgan spiced rum with diet coke...mmmmm. But obviously that is out . So what shall I do. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Happy holidays!

That’s three stressful things you’re dealing with in your life: new job, new way of eating and giving up alcohol. Yikes. Parties are hard with everyone eating & drinking around you ... esp here on Aust Day. 🤣 If you manage this, life post weight loss surgery will be a breeze. Have fun!

KimNYC, I had to switch insurance 3 times to get this done. First I had Empire Blue cross, then I switched to Guardian, till finally I switched to Oxford and they approved it. They might be the most expensive, but they're the best by far. Good luck! Alsgyrl: Good for you for being able to hold back. In my head im still that same pig, and I want to be able to eat certain foods. Therefore certain preperations have to me bade :-D LOL. As for alcohol, I've had a few beers since the surgery, and it's just like soda. If soda works for you then beer is no problem. I also had a shot of Jack a couple of weeks ago, and if was no problem at all.

My comment was badly worded and even after I edited it, it didn't really convey the sense that I meant. With that said, there are several instances where I see a "believer" as being ostensibly weaker than a non-believer - although in the overall scheme they have the same strengths. One is the believer who has that "conversion" moment after a major life crisis or failure. You know, the ones the Salvation Army claim when they help an alcoholic out of the gutter. Most of the stories I have heard on those lines speak of crying out to the heavens for help and feeling the answer unmistakeably. Their belief ever after is unshakeable because they have FELT the power. The other is the day to day believer, who prays for guidance and help with their daily lives. These people will often say god speaks to them in their hearts, they pray and the answers come to them. They feel a personal connection with him. What all of these people, the hallelujah convert and the daily devout, don't seem to take into account is that ALL of this interaction, emotion and divine response takes place between the bone walls of their own skulls. It is all a state of mind. The human mind is an amazing and powerful thing and it is more than capable of deluding our conscious selves into anything it wants us to believe. We reach out into an uncaring universe and cry "God save me!!" and we hear an answer - that's our own selves answering, in a disguise we can accept. At a conscious level we have no faith in our own ability to make decisions, find strength to face life, etc, so we pray to a god for strength and guidance - what we find is our own inner strengths and our underlying feel for what we should be doing. To me the desire for religion is a remnant of the childhood desire for a loving nuturing parent. As human beings, we NEED that in childhood as a survival thing - without love between parents and children, we would not survive as a species. When it comes time to grow up and face the world alone, many of us are afraid to walk without that comforting parent as our shield. So we create our own "parent" and give "him" all the powers that we need to help shelter us.

Pretty much every store in the country has them. Just go to the chocolate/hard candy section. You will find some really great flavors. Try to have one and savor it. They have a lot of sugar alcohol in them. I am starting my 2 week liquid fast on 6/5 and I'm planning on making Atkins Mocha smoothies (Atkins shake and ice). :ph34r:

June Chat I POSTED THIS THIS MORNING.. SEEMS WE MUST HAVE STARTED THE SAME POST.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Good Morning and Welcome to June... Darcy - Have you made an appt with Your Doc yet? Hopefully it turns out to be nothing but better to be safe.. Sorry to hear about Ava ~ ouch in the pocketbook ~ Hopefully your babies will get to feeling better soon. Hi Kat ~ Praying that you get the call and everything can move along for you and DH. I have not had time to read back on your trip ~ Hope you all enjoyed it and relaxed. You got it girl... Donna ~ My Heart and Prayers go out to you. I have seen on my ex's side what alcohol can do to a family. Hopefully he will make a turn around. Eileen ~ Mine are coming more common since Dec ~ early menapouse is what the Doc says. Hopefully it is not true but it's expected I guess. Beanie - I have a call into my Lawyer cause I really do believe that I am entitled to the whole thing. But in order to get him to sign off on the house I will use anything at this point to keep the peace and the house and it's contents. Believe me I would rather not give him a dime for all the emotional crap I have had to take from his bottom of the barrel family and that is putting it nicely. I will be taking cell phone / ins pymt off the top... sounds like you all had a good time this weekend Patty ~ was it hard to set up the Tivo? I would really love one but am still not sure. I order movies from Net flix and those sit around my home for like a month. I was thinking they were going to call and tell me to send them back.. Pat ~ Sorry about your friend {{HUGS}}} I love your golf course yard.. Especially your ride ~ I could go round and round on that all day.. Even make money giving rides. Cindy ~ glad you are ticket free.. Betty ~ Are you getting any rest yet?? Becky - Happy Belated Birthday Sherry ~ have you checked out Ebay for the Gun he wants? That is good that he is working to offset the cost.. " EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH ~ SHERRY" Dianne ~ I bet once the Snacks are out of the picture for you and ME - we will see a differance.. Carol ~ Hi Well here we go another day in the neighborhood. Just pluggin away and waiting for the insurance lady or adjuster to call. Total loss is what the adjuster told the collision place.. See how much they will be offering is the next question? Other than that this would be the first weekend he would get the boys for overnights but he already said he would rather not take them till he has his apt ready? humm all the flippin fighting and now he does not want them. A$$ Well tomorrow is pay day and hoping to get some bills out of the way at least on my side, little does he know that there is a garnishment on his check. Kids are doing great and ex SIL is taking them to the park to ride bikes today. Other than that not a whole lot going on today. I bring in Breakfast tomorrow that is todays delimma.. Crap why did I agree???

Your'e putting yourself in great risk by having alcohol so soon after surgery. Most docs recommend to wait at least 6 months. Your stomach is still healing and alcohol is very acidic and can mess with the healing process. You're also at a high risk of developing a dependency issue. Having two shots a day when you're probably only bringing in about 1000 calories a day isn't "light". You're definitely fooling yourself if you think that alcohol isn't having some negative impact on your weight loss!

What exactly does this mean because after following this drama (as mostly a lurker) what does getting banned mean. I now interpret it as you change screen names and continue just as before. I'm not saying Lisa should have been banned, but if you are banned why do they continue to allow you to post. Maybe if they stood behind their decisions of banning people by fully banning them some of this drama would stop for peoples fear of being banned. I know that this is a rant and rave section but personal attacks against marriage, alcohol or mental illness are absolutely disgusting. Does anyone get what I'm saying?

Yah...it keeps the mounds of fat on my stomach 'real' too!! Yep...August 4th....just can't believe it!!! I am going to need a small fill at that time also. I'm kinda bumbed because for whatever reason I didn't get an official "before" picture taken pre-op. Thought maybe I would take one of my own to put in my chart for the comparison (hehe:heh: ). Can I just say that I feel like what I would think an alcoholic feels when they go through massive withdrawls..... I NEED A SCALE AND I NEED IT NOW!!! Angela, I don't see how you travel so much and don't get to weigh. I thought about finding a Bed Bath and Beyond around here just so I could go stand on their scales and see how I'm doing.....I'm sick and I need help!!!!:sick I weigh every morning to keep myself accountable...sometimes more than once per day!! HELP!!! I'm obsessing...I think I'm at least holding my own so far which is a huge accomplishment in comparison to the last vacation. Worked out again this am..30 mins on bike and 75 sit-ups. Just had a 100 cal pack for breakfast, 1 stick of cheese, 1 stick of beef jerky. Weird breakfast, I know. We are going out to this supposedly great mexican restaurant for lunch...where all of my uncles/cousins that I haven't seen in 10 years will be meeting us for a little gathering. Should be fun. I'll check in again later....not much planned for today (thankfully, getting worn out). In case your wondering why I am on the computer during vacation, it gets me away from the kids for about 10 mins, or right now I"m just passing time doing some laundry ...plus I miss you guys. Holli, I hope you are feeling much better....Be good though without that fill or I'm going to come slap you over the head with a wet noodle!! Talk to you guys later! Love, Robyn

I'm not a big drinker but when I go out, I tend to drink things like Mudslides and White Russians, or I'll have an Amaretto Sour or a glass of wine. I stay away from carbonation, of course. I'm curious to learn what your favorite alcoholic drinks are, post-banding. Whatcha got?! (I'm going out tonight, so I need ideas! Heh.:rolleyes:)

I really missed my bourbon and coke....so, after a few weeks, I let a coke go flat and added the bourbon. It tasted really good! This from a gal that used to pour flat coke down the drain!!! I don't even miss carbonated drinks any more. Used to be hooked on diet Dr.Pepper. I haven't had one since my surgery 10 months ago......Hey, I think I might let one go flat and see how it goes. Another favorite summertime alcoholic drink is a Mai-Tai. I have a marvelous recipe for them. Yummy!!

I'm not nice, I'm simply tired of being smacked down for pointing out the obvious. So...tacos, ice cream, popcorn and alcohol for everyone!!! :D No!! You're defeating the purpose. Sent from my KFJWI using the BariatricPal App

Why not just have soda or virgin drinks? You don't have to stay home and be left out. As long as you're there with your friends, does it matter what you're drinking? If they're you're friends, they'll understand why you aren't drinking alcohol and they'll just be glad you're there with them.

I agree with this statement. I am a US citizen my husband is not. He is from England and the times I was in England with him the socializing and drinking blew my mind. It is a different culture abroad. I just went with it. I was there to spend time with him and I did not drink alcohol (this is several years ago, no WLS). I did not drink for two reasons, 1. no way I could keep up with a Brit 2. I didnt want to be drunk off 2 drinks and miserable for him to deal with lol Like another poster said, you dont have to drink to have a good time with friends but Id definitely try something lighter just to see how your able to tolerate it. Maybe try something at home first before the wedding in case you have an adverse issue at least you can deal with it and know how it will affect you ahead of time.

Agree with this. It's all about how you feel and if you think you can handle it. At the end of the day it's best to stick to your dieticians word. I'm not trying to give you a reason to do anything but I have noticed the wls guidelines in the US are very anti drink vs. Europe. I personally think you're too early on and your stomach is probably still healing. I will tell you I went against my dieticians word and had a drink before the 6 month mark she gave me because I go to a lot of events and parties. I had a long talk with myself and my mom (who is a physician) and came to the conclusion to just try one drink. I made sure it had no sugar or carbonation in it so I did a vodka water with lemon juice. Personally it didn't hit me any different than pre op. I had the drink 2 months and some weeks post op. I will say you can feel the alcohol a lot more (not in the getting drunk sense) but you can feel it go down your esophagus and into your stomach and intestines and it hurts and burns and even makes you cramp a little. Not very pleasant. Anyway, it's up to you. 3 weeks is pretty early on. I will say at 3 weeks I was so focused on feeling better and hydrated I did not want a drink. It might make you feel awful because you're recovering. In my opinion, just have a mock tail. If not, try to decide if it's really worth it, if you can handle maybe getting sick at a big event or bad dehydration without being able to chug water or eat greasy foods the next day. Sent from my SM-G975U using BariatricPal mobile app

Sure. Have a sip. Wait. Assess. Consider. Have another sip. Repeat. Also the OP is from Swansea not rural Pennsylvania and alcohol is formulated differently there.

Remember that alcohol is going to be very different from before surgery. 1 beer will hit you like if you took several shots. This is a good video to watch

This thread has been a great insight, but also a great laugh! I have truly enjoyed the jokes. Speaking of alcohol, I am nervous to have a drink! My surgeon said after 1 month it would be ok. I have a couple weddings coming up, and of course don't want to have one drink and become the life of the party. I understand alcohol effects people differently. What were some of your experiences after the first drink? What do you like to drink since you can't drink soda? My other concern is how many calories that are in liquor. I surely don't want to not be able to eat all day because I choose to have a drink. I will really have to question wether or not it's actually worth it.

I've only had alcohol on a couple of social occasions.. It hit me fast and made me very flush and uneasy for a minute or two, The interesting thing for me is I felt very buzzed quickly but then that feeling of being buzzed went away went away just as quickly.. I had some red wine and one time a very small glass of Vodka and cranberry and added ice to it all night. I've never had a problem with alcohol, just food, But I will say (as I have said before so please forgive me) that weeks after surgery I was still taking my pain meds every night (same time that I did my best eating too) to feel "better" I started looking forward to my night time dose. I refilled my meds twice I told my husband what I was doing and how I was feeling and we threw the pain meds out. I was never hooked on drugs just food..