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1st fill and confused and disappointed
catwoman7 replied to Shey Ronix's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
the band surgery is rarely done any more - the VSG (sleeve) has largely replaced it as the non-RNY weight loss option. I think there's a specific thread for band patients in here - you might want to post over there as more lapband patients might see it. Sorry you're having these issues - that sounds awful! yes - I just checked, and there are band forums on here. Here they are: https://www.bariatricpal.com/forum/4-lap-band-surgery-forums/ -
1st fill and confused and disappointed
Shey Ronix posted a topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hello I had band January 20 2022 and I was on liquid diet 2 weeks lost weight then it started slowing down as I became more hungry and had no restriction I had my first fill today of 2.5 cc and my doctor said I have to go back on a 2 week clear liquid diet? I cannot do that again I am so hungry I feel no restriction at all ....will I feel any from just a liquid diet? I can gulp water down it doesn't feel tight at all how long do I have to wait to get another fill? What's the ristriction feel like am I getting it messed up from when food gets stuck sometimes and I feel tightness in chest and have to vomit it out -
Having said that there are predictable responses here and with things I posted in the beginning too "You need a therapist..." "Your insurance won't pay if you refused to be weighed" and a number of others. The reality is, WLS is undertaken by people who are unhappy with themselves and as much as we (primarily Americans) try to science it with BMIs and comorbidities and whatever else, it is fundamentally a personal decision. A person came onto the forum with questions and she got an avalanche of "you aren't fat enough for this" and "this is for us, not you". Says who? You can be a bit thin for WLS perhaps. But you can also be too fat for it - many obese people are instructed to lose weight before surgery and wonderfully so many do it successfully. But how many posts here say "oh, you've done so well losing weight without the surgery, just skip it and carry on doing what you're doing - you can obviously do it" None, I'd wager. We know the score, that it would be a constant - and in the end unwinnable - battle that would deliver a poor quality of life. Was the OP rude? Yes. But we all know that the mental aspect of all this can have contributed to and be the result of a lifetime battle against the world, real and perceived.
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My BMI was 35 on the dot. But what BMI doesn't tell you is trend. In the last two years it had gone from 30, and in two years time it would have been at 40. A lifetime of somewhat successful weight loss and control had ended and I found I was simply unable to do it anymore. For whatever reason - I still couldn't tell you but I kept starting diets and periods of control that lasted 4 days at the most. My BMI has dropped under 30 now, 5 weeks post op. I'd also say two further things: 1. There's little in life more unhealthy than obesity. 2. The surgery is, on average, hugely less serious if you have a lower BMI, are younger and in better health/no comorbidities. That's me basically and I recovered very well with no issues at all, no food intolerances or anything. Wait 10 years, wait until your BMI is 10 points higher and you have diabetes, sleep apnea and hypertension and WLS is no longer a joke.
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November Surgery Buddies!!!
Spinoza replied to Tristenhilpert97's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
It's unbelievable how many of us have had the same experience. Glad your stall has ended. Your stats are so similar to mine - identical weight loss actually. Race you! -
Over the last maybe 6 weeks, though, I’ve lost nothing. OK - are you panicking and thinking - oh well, if I'm not losing weight whilst sticking to my plan, I might as well buy crisps and chocolate and SCREW THE PLAN - IT ISN'T WORKING ANY MORE!? That's happened during pretty much every diet I've ever done - all fab while the weight is coming off, but total catastrophe and throwing my toys out of the pram, when it stops. If there's a bit of this going on inside your head then maybe you need to work on that. How rationally you can talk yourself through it I don't know - there may well be a place for a discussion with a therapist if you can find someone suitable. It may be that you are approaching your new set weight - not all of us make it below a BMI of 25 after WLS. If so, you might be entering your maintenance phase. And it's perfectly OK to experiment with different foods - even chocolate and crisps - as long as you make allowance for that. I don't know whether you track food or calorie count, but it might be worth having a think about it if you don't. I’m worried about my portion sizes going back to normal and gaining all the weight back You will absolutely not do that if you're sticking to the plan you were given by your surgeon. If you start with protein and then have your veg you shouldn't gain significant amounts of weight. If you start with crisps and chocolate then you very well might. So don't start with crisps and chocolate if at all possible - use that tool you went to so much trouble to get. You have done so very well with this surgery, this tool - you've clearly made the most of it over the last 9 months. I think from reading here lots of people experience significant stalls, I can see that it's really worrying when you do, but lots of people come through those too and lose more weight, so you might be about to do that. You'll have read advice here about switching things up - increase protein, increase exercise or try building muscle as opposed to pure cardio, etc. I think your loss is amazing and an inspiration. If you can embrace that and be kind to yourself then you'll be absolutely fine.
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I’m 3.5 years out. Started at 235 lbs. I’m a 5’2” 50 yr old female. I stayed “on plan” (note: MY plan NOT my NUT’s) which was low cal (<800 cals), ultra-low carb (< 20g Net Carbs) throughout weight-loss phase. I got to goal (127 lbs) around 7 months post-op and have stayed below goal ever since...almost 3 years. This morning i clocked in at 118.7 lbs I no longer eat to any “plan” other than to try to stay under 2000 cals a day. I am about 90% successful sticking to this. I eat basically anything just not at pre-op levels…think like 1 to 1.5 cups at a time. And this includes desserts, low-nutritional snacks, fried foods, alcohol and lotsa butter, lol. I also eat my fair share of salads, so it’s all good. Bread, rice, pasta and potatoes are not regular foods for me, but only because these things sit heavily in my stomach and gets me super full super fast. Plus, I just don’t really crave them all that much. you will find out what foods will work within your lifestyle as you progress. Good Luck! ❤️ P.S. I ate pork and red meat (and all things carnivore) now, and even during weight loss phase…they never went off the table for me.
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Great minds think alike :-) - I've already started a journal with my weight and measurements, my reasons for wanting to do this etc, and I've taken some photos just before I started the pre-surgery diet. I love the idea of including space for some NSVs so I will definitely add that in, thanks! With regards to isolation, I've been told to isolate for three days prior, and am going in on Monday for a covid test. Fingers and toes crossed for a negative, I'd be devastated if the surgery can't go ahead as planned..!
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I have not been on here for several years. I apologize if this is the wrong spot. I had sleeve 5 years ago and lost 40 lbs. I started at 224. I am currently 212 and have gained 13 pounds since late October. I think I know the answers but looking for help and tips. How do I lose again?
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Mine too. I lost all my excess weight while having the band, but 6 years later and didn't use it at all.
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Needing some encouragement.
I♡BypassedMyPhatAss♡ replied to modernli's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
I agree. 💯 My new surgeon told me that the weight that I did lose with the band was probably mostly my doing. Not the band. -
I'm having my operation at the Spire hospital Bristol. You're right they do give you lots to read [emoji1787][emoji23]. My emotions are all over the place at mo. Do we still have to isolate for a fortnight before the op or has that changed? I've been gardening all day to keep myself busy. You could put together a pamper box in readiness for after surgery ( face masks, bubble bath, bath bombs, hair mask, magazines etc). You could get a notebook and the first page could be a photograph of you now and list around it all the reasons why you want to lose weight. Second page could be your hopes and dreams for the new slim you. Third page could be a weightloss chart, fourth a no scale victory page etc etc. Just a few ideas to keep you smiling [emoji4]. X Sent from my SM-G980F using BariatricPal mobile app
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Needing some encouragement.
I♡BypassedMyPhatAss♡ replied to modernli's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
Are you tracking everything you eat and drink on an app like My Fitness Pal? I had a lap band for about 7 years and I did lose weight, but not all that I wanted to. So it was successful to some extent. On my post op journey while reading forums here, it was frustrating to see others who had RNY, DS or Sleeve losing weight faster than me. Lap band definitely offers slower weight loss results than the other surgeries. So I understand how you're feeling. While we spend months trying to get the perfect restriction (green zone) the other folks who have RNY, DS, Sleeve, and I don't want to leave out the MGB this time (for @MiniGastricBypassDude 😂 Sorry I left your surgery out up there ^ 😂) folks that had these surgeries were losing weight from day one. It's just harder for banders, we really in some ways have to work harder because we have more time from post op with less restriction. So hang in there, exercise if you can and track your food and make good food choices, optimize your protein. Best wishes! -
Major complications after surgery
Esi replied to emilyemiliemilu's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
So sorry to hear this! I’m glad that your providers are figuring out what is going on. Hopefully the spasms will subside soon, and you will be healing. Hopefully you will be on your journey towards eating and drinking regularly (for gastric sleeve, that is). This was not my scenario, but I had esophageal spasms and then vomiting for two months. I followed the doctor‘s advice, and it did eventually subside. I then had a normal response to the sleeve, and have lost most of the excess weight. So hang in there, and sip slowly throughout the day if allowed. Even though your recovery is not the usual, you will likely have good results eventually, once you pass this hurdle! -
Realistic expectation of when workouts can start post-op
catwoman7 replied to mrsjo's topic in Fitness & Exercise
I was encouraged to walk right away. at four weeks out, I was cleared to do everything except for weights. at eight weeks out, I was cleared for weights. -
I had a lower BMI I was told by many people “ your not fat enough to have WLS@ well I fought my weight for years now I’m at my lowest since I was 24 years old! The weight loss surgery is very successful with people with lower BMI (VSG) best choice I ever made I’ve lost 46 lbs. since my surgery 12/14/21 wish I did it a long time ago! I love not eating much it’s great! I felt same way wondered if I’d loose to much pre op I did put some on wish I’d not thought that way I’d be lower now then I am! It was a mental struggle for a few weeks follow surgeon and don’t follow your own plan there the pro’s ! I finely feel I will be done with my weight for life!
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Low BMI pre op question
Kelly Sweetheart replied to lizzie320's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
The research I’ve read shows that WLS is an option for those with BMI 27+. I’ve always struggled to keep my weight under 150. I’ve always been chubby. My A1C, my BP, my triglycerides, etc have been increasing along with my weight. COVID hit and the stress from all the changes because of it has not helped. I need to lose 50 pounds now too. Im scheduled for surgery this month. I wish you the best! Check the current research. You don’t need to be morbidly obese to benefit from the surgery. Obese patients are successfully keeping the weight off with lower a1c BP and other comorbidities -
Hi Lizzie, I’m in a similar situation. I’m getting gastric bypass in April and my bmi is 30-31. This was recommended by my doctor due to my GERD. You can maintain your weight until then by eating healthy, high protein shakes and lifting weights. This will help maintain muscle mass that you will need while you lose the weight. The rude and inappropriate comments by the jerks were unnecessary and clearly were spoken without thinking. You’ve done nothing wrong and don’t let them believe that for a second. Anyone can lose weight as evidenced by a mandatory liquid pre-op diet (to shrink the liver), but not anyone can maintain it without surgery. This surgery aids not only in long-term reduction from obesity, but long-term reduction in the health complications that come from it. It’s also better for your metabolism and lean muscle mass to have a long-term solution. I’ve watched many of my patients die from obesity. Do what is right for you and your family per your doctor’s recommendations.
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Yeah, I look like I gave birth to quintuplets a few months back, too. But I guess I'm lucky; I can kinda tuck it in the waistband of my boxer briefs and the rest seems to be holding off looking weird for now. There's just no way around excess skin. I took collagen daily for the entire journey down to here (in the form of sugar-free, high-protein collagen gummy bears, yum!) and the gym helps with the arms and chest, but when I lie down on my side, I basically have a buttcrack from my butt to my upper back lol. Getting it fixed next year once I see where I 'land', weight-wise - I suspect I'm a little under what my long-term maintenance weight will be right now.
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Psychiatric Evaluation done... Finally.
Guest replied to liveaboard15's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I will go so far as to say as long as the world looks at obesity as a moral failure, how can you not end up with a fractured mindset when it comes to food, self-worth, etc. I will go to the end of the f'in world to get people to understand the biology and social factors that influence how bodies regulate weight. Because once we understand obesity as a complex, chronic disease that has elements of physiology, behavior (yes, of course), social factors inherent in its etiology, we can move forward - and avoid all this mental anguish. It's a waste of life. -
Agree. It's truly ridiculous that the MGB/OAGB isn't considered a standard procedure in America. It's simpler, more effective, and has fewer side effects than most alternatives. It can be easily revised or reversed. People have a chance of keeping the weight off (no guarantees, of course).
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Anyone have LapBand to DS revision?
I♡BypassedMyPhatAss♡ replied to CandiceRW's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I had a lapband placed in 2013 and it was removed April 2021 due to GERD. I'm in the process of revising to RNY. My surgeon won't perform DS on anyone unless they have really bad diabetes. So it was never an option for me. I never made it to goal weight with the lap band. From what I've read, most don't. So I'm hoping to cure the GERD and lose a little more weight after RNY. Best wishes on your Lap band removal and DS surgeries! -
I too had the same issue. About 3 weeks after my surgery I stopped losing for almost 2 weeks. I googled and found out that it is common to have a stall 3 weeks post op. After the stall I have continued to lose weight at about 1lb. every other day. Hang in there!
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NJ, I'm in an earlier stage but I know I'll be where you are now down the line because I always read that plateaus (and slowed weight loss) are an inevitable, normal, and healthy part of the process. Wow, you've lost 93 pounds and are feeling great!? That's AWESOME!!!!! Maybe take some time to care for yourself, focus on and enjoy what you've accomplished. I'm taking an online workshop called "The Hunger Within" that focuses on the psychological aspects of eating and food choices. Maybe you would benefit from that course or something similar; I can't package it into a quick takeaway but it helped me notice that I often take either a strict or rebellious route with life's chicken vs. chocolate decisions, and that it would help me to develop and listen to a kinder and more rational voice that says something like "chicken and sometimes the little piece of chocolate." (I'm a vegetarian, so it's not chicken for me, but you get the idea...😊) If you are able to check in with your nutritionist, they'd probably have advice and be able to reassure you that you are on track! You are totally in control and you've got this!
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One-derland after 6 months
Tony B - NJ replied to Tony B - NJ's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I lost a lot more weight in the first 3 months than the last 3. I have been steady at 6-8 pounds a month since after the 3rd month. I hope to continue at 4-5 pounds a month until I hit my ideal weight which would pretty much be at my one year point.
