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Letter of Support -BCBS Fep Question
_CRYSTALLITE_ posted a topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I finally got my letter of support from my pcp(I had to jump thru hoops to get one). Well the insurance lady told me that the letter needed to state that I haven't smoked or drank alcohol within the last six months or something like that or the insurance will deny it. Of course My doctor didn't put it on there. It took me forever to get the letter and I don't want to delay them submitting my paperwork because I'm trying to hunt down my pcp. And I certainly don't want to get a denial because the statement isn't on there. My question is for anyone with BCBS federal, do you really have to have this statement on there? Was anybody denied because they didn't have it on there? Do you think I should have my pcp to add the statement? Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App -
Liquor, Wine or Beer: Alcohol effects
ThinnieMinnie2B replied to inkmartyr's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Just had my 3 month post op checkup and my surgeon cleared me for alcoholic beverages. He stressed moderation and cautioned getting drunk faster. I had a few sips of my hubby's beer 2 months post op. No issues but apparently my tastes have changed because it was gross. -
Over a week until sleeve surgery some questions
Dylpowers posted a topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hello I am new to this forum i have my gastric sleeve surgery on March 6th and honestly I am freaking out a little I am 5 11 and at my highest was 385 since deciding to do surgery I have lost over 35 pounds and hope to take more weight off prior to surgery with the pre op liquid. Long term goal is 220 i went to pre op education course yesterday so I am clear on everything to do for the next week and the weeks following My questions revolve around several items is two weeks post surgery realistic to go back to work . I work in finance so desk job i understand the need to strictly follow the post surgery liquid diets etc but when you get to 6 months are you pretty much able to eat most foods ( recognizing that focusing on protein and fewer carbs will be key for the weight loss ) How common is vomiting post surgery 6 months and I assume it is just over eating is the main cause and how sensitive is your stomach ( ie I have 6 ozs of meat instead of 4 am I throwing up) the thought of vomiting a lot obviously is not pleasant . I know Alcohol is discouraged but safe to assume that for special occasions one or two drinks will be fine ( once again 6 plus months out post survey ) i am excited to do this a get to a healthier life just probably now just processing how much change there will be to my life thanks so much for any feedback -
What I said was: "The concept of prayer in school is just about as offensive to me as pedophilia." I think all of you are being silly to get in a huff and claim that I am somehow equating rape and pedophilia with prayer. That's just ridiculous. If you read the posts I've made here throughout this entire thread, you can clearly see that this thread has nothing to do with anything like that. My comment was a little bit of hyperbole to make a point. If I said "drinking alcohol is the work of the devil," would you all pounce on me for being a devil worshiper, or some other such nonsense? This group of indignant comments about rape and pedophilia amount to nothing more than red herrings to avoid talking about what is actually being said here. And, what is actually being said here, is this: no group of people has the right to use legislation and constitutional amendments to force others to live by moral standards that everyone does not agree with. Whether you like it or not, prayer in school is deeply offensive to me. I don't expect you to understand. I don't really care if you understand. But what I do care about is that you should not be allowed to use legislation to force me to endure something I find deeply offensive, simply because you think it is wonderful. That is the point I'm making here, as I've said repeatedly. And by the way, when I say "you," I mean that generally. This is not directed at anyone in particular. It is not a personal attack. It is a discussion. But please, you can all put your arms down now. I'm not suggesting that prayer is equal to rape and pedophilia.
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I couldn't agree more. The fact is, the hypotheses they are making about lifestyle changes and so-called transfer addictions (even if they don't use those terms, I can't recall now -- I read that study a couple of weeks ago, but didn't re-read it today) from WLS patients in general are IMO entirely unsupported empirically at this point. The only evidence regarding the increase in alcohol abuse is the mechanical/physical change in bypass patients, where they absolutely metabolise alcohol differently than a non-bypassed person and this is very relevant to alcohol issues. I have not seen any convincing evidence yet that restriction-only procedures (ie, sleeve, band) lead to increased alcoholism (or drug abuse, etc.) in any significant way. I'm open to the evidence when they produce it, but I've just not seen it yet. The idea that newly thin people go off the 'deep end' and party too much and turn into big sluts is just as much a stereotype, IMO, as the stereotypes we've all had projected on us about being fat, lazy, dumb, etc. All that said, to the OP -- I think it's fine that you celebrated your 21st, happy belated b-day to you. I also first had a drink a month or two post-op (had to drink some champagne for a friend's birthday, oy bubbles on top of it LOL). I drink wine at least once or twice a week usually and I haven't had any problems with that. It's a personal choice, I think -- and unless there are health issues or addiction problems, it's not a 'wrong' personal choice. I chose to tell VERY few people about my surgery cos I don't like people knowing my personal business. That said, even if people did know about it, I wouldn't try to explain much or 'convince' them about it. That's often a waste of time. I'm fine for them to have their opinions, their perspective isn't relevant to my life most of the time, so I just keep the conversation polite and the topic brief. What other people think about me is none of my business anyhow...
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Lean heavy on support systems, they are fantastic! Unfortunately for me it ment 3 weeks of not going out on weekends with my friends. Get me in a bar with whiskey and a bunch of chain smoking friends and it's game over! Lol. My doc said you need to shrink you liver prior to surgery. If its too large when they get in there they will stop and not complete the surgery. I have to take a nicotine test prior to going under. I stopped all fried foods, alcohol, and cigaretts.
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Question for you Low Carb People
giveyouthemoon replied to wendyjoy's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
I think each person has to try it out for themselves. I know some low carbers who can eat the sugar alcohols, subtract them and lose weight beautifully. Others, as mentioned here, get bad cravings triggered and stop losing weight. I guess the answer is...your mileage may vary. For me, I can eat the sugar alcohols and still lose weight, but if I eat too often, it does spin me out on cravings. -
UKAngel I cannot belive 2 stone in 2 weeks!! omg!you have done brilliantly and really encourages me to carry on .. I have just paid the balance on this op and just hope it's all worth it. I have a fridge full of slimfast for the pre op stage :¬[ Saggi I have to tell you I went to an all inclusive in Cuba last summer - It was the only time I lost weight on a holiday!! there is only so much you can take of buffet style food- the thing you need to watch out for it the unlimited alcohol! annie
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Everybodies Pregnant But Me
brittaney replied to brittaney's topic in Pregnancy with Weight Loss Surgery
That is a good way to look at it and I try to stay positive. sometimes it doesn't help that I'm a teacher asi all these parents not taking care of their children. or sumbody who uses drugs getting pregnant or alcohol getting pregnant or just people in general getting pregnant what you know sometimes I feel what do they have that I don't. I try to stay positive but every month when my time of the month comes and goes. sometimes I get scared and,think will my husband leave me if we don't have a child. -
I'm no expert...but my basic understanding is Sugar alcohols are derivatives from sugar used in sugar free products to sweeten things. Instead of ending in -ose (like glucose) it ends in -ol. (I think Sorbitol is one). Some people dump on sugar alcohols. (I don't). I've never been told they are not allowed by my team. Other find sugar alcohols make them bloated.
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What did your NUTs or Dr.s say about alcohol? When are you all allowed to have a drink? Recognizing that they are empty calories, etc, I do like an occasional glass of wine. Just curious what everyone else's teams have said. Thanks!
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Now THIS clarifies food addiction!
chrystine replied to BariatricGirl's topic in Weight Loss Surgery Magazine
Awareness of addiction is a huge step. Geneen Roth has written a number of books about addictive eating that I have found helpful. Mindfulness and DBT training can also be helpful in overcoming compulsive over-eating and replacing negative thought processes. Some people find 12 step programs helpful. For many, the answer really is eliminating the trigger foods such as white flour or sugar. It's important to realize though that an over-dependence on sugar substitute never quiets the longing and desire for sugar though. I don't think there is any "one size fits all" answer. I know that I come from a family with compulsive and addictive behaviors. I have never picked up cigarettes, drugs or alcohol but have definitely relied on food. For the first 25+ years it wasn't much of an issue because I could eat what I wanted and stayed close to a healthy weight (maybe 10 lbs heavy). By the time I finally got a handle on my compulsive over-eating, between my Hashimoto's which is difficult to control even with Synthroid, my metabolic syndrome and the pain that makes working out difficult, I know WLS is the only way to help me attain a healthy weight. If I hadn't wrapped my head around the food issue though, having the surgery wouldn't really help in the long run. I had my first WLS appointment Jan 2 and have lost 15 lbs since then. Such a struggle since my metabolism is so messed up. Do I still have an occasional candy bar and Coke pre-surgery? Yes. But I can't remember the last time I had a 16 oz bag of fun size Snickers bar and devoured them in an evening. If you are already post-op and still obsessing about food, please find a program, therapist, behavioral lifestyle class - something to help set you free. Best wishes, Chrystine -
Cheri, Margaritas????? And I was dumb enough to have my surgery here! My preop diet was NPO after midnight and no alcohol 24 hours before surgery!!!!! I don't drink much or often, but a little send off before surgery would have been nice. ARRRRR Oh well, at least I could eat the whole day. Prior to my lapband I had the two week liquid regime. But then my BMI was over 40. Sunshine, you will be pleasantly surprised. I thought I would feel many times more pain than I did with my lapband, but honestly I don't think it was as much. Go figure. Euphoric, nibble nibble nibble. LOL My DH laughs watching me chipping at the crackers with my front teeth. I have to make sure I'm very careful to THINK about what I'm doing. I realize it would be so easy to thoughtlessly take a regular bite and give it a couple of chews and swallow. Most of the time when I got something "stuck" with my band, it was because I momentarily forgot. Not pretty.
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overeating after gastric sleeve
Sheribear68 replied to MaryNa's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I am so thankful for the clinic psychologist at the place I had my surgery. His lesson that he hammers every time he gets the chance is that WLS has 3 major traps: Trap #1: you will initially lose weight NO MATTER WHAT. You can have the worst habits and diet ever and still lose weight. This is a bad trap as there isn’t negative feedback for unhealthy behaviors. Trap #2: because of the reduced size of your new digestive tract, you can eat small portions of metabolically disruptive foods (carb-laden and devoid of protein) and be “okay” because it’s only a few bites. Nope,nope,nope! Even in teensy amounts, foods that promote insulin resistance are only going to put you right back into a bad metabolic state over time. Best to avoid them (or save them only for very special occasions) altogether. Trap #3: You don’t stop becoming a “fat” person just because you lost a bunch of weight. It’s kind of like being a smoker or an alcoholic. Just because you’re not actively smoking or drinking, it doesn’t mean you can magically pick up smoking or drinking again and not expect difficult consequences. Fat brains stay fat brains for life and we need to be ever-diligent to not fall into any of the “fat” behaviors that got us needing WLS in the first place. I actually wrote all of these traps down after my sessions with him and I keep them taped to a cork board in my bedroom. I see them every day and try my best each day to keep those lessons close to heart.- 11 replies
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Alcohol?
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The beginning of the rest of my life
nouveau-debut replied to Bbell's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
I have not had surgery yet, but hope to in the next 1-2 months. It sounds like your surgery went well, which is great to hear. I like what you wrote, my addiction to food does remind me of an alcoholic. Best of luck in your journey! -
You will find once you get a good fill that cold isn't so good for your band. Cold tightens the band and warm things help the food go through. Once when I was too tight, I had a bite of ice cream and it felt like someone was squeezing my stomach so hard I wanted to cry. Luckily I had a cup of warm Water close by. I can eat ice cream now though. does that sugar free ice cream give you gas? A lot of that sugar free stuff gives me horrible gas. That sweetener they use (malitol or sugar alcohol) causes horrible gas.
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I went away to atlantic city this weekend i drank diet coke and cherry vodka. The alcohol does kill most of the carbonation. Rule of thumb is that whatever proof it is is how many calories it has so 80 proof vodka has 80 calories. So my drinks were only 80 calories. I asked my doctor if i could have diet soda and he told me yes as long as it doesn't brother me. Now i can't drink soda straight up because i get some pain in my chest but with the alcohol no problem. Now i don't drink all the time maybe once or twice a month and when i do i just cut back on my calories for the day so i can have a drink or two. 3 drinks with diet coke and vodka = 240 3 drinks with juice and vodka =600
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I like 'ritas too, just keep track of the calories. 4 oz. strawberry mix = 140 calories and 33g sugar, 1 oz tequila = 70 calories. So a strawberry margarita the same size as a beer will have around 600 calories and 100 grams of sugar. I realize that's a big 'rita, but if you think about it as having just 2 average sized ones, that's a lot of sugar and calories. :closedeyes: There are some sugar free mixes out there that have zero calories (not counting the alcohol), might be worth checking out.
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Im pretty sure that we dont have a counselor on campus, and if we did, we would have to pay for it....and right now Im unemployed because Im too concerned about partying right now....atleast its the truth???? I would honestly rather go out drinking and dancing than sit at home and stuff my face at night....that way I get exercise and lower calories.....alcohol has cals, but not as much as everything I would put in my mouth if I was at home....I admit that I do believe that I have body dysmorphia issues....however, MK isnt on her death bed, and I really dont see the issue with this.....my friends are all thin, so they will say she's too thin to be healthy or whatever, but my mind perceives this 50/50 because half I think that they really think that, and the other half I think they are jealous because they are not that thin.....I know Im messed up......I need a fill, Ive been stuffing my face lately and Im gaining weight , and its depressing me..........but when Im not filled I want to eat, I get hungry, genuinely hungry! But when Im filled I get hungry once maybe twice a day, usually only once tho, then I will have a small snack before bed or something???? I begged them not to take my fill out, and they did it anyway, and Im very upset about it.....
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Drinking Alcohol Question
arthukd replied to Victorid76's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Not that I recommend this but...I had a alcoholic drink 4 days post op :thumbup: I am slowly losing and I know it would come off faster if I gave up alcohol but I enjoy a glass or 3 on the weekends. When you are single and your social activities revolve around dinner w/ friends it is hard to stay on track. (probably one of the reason I am obese...now, I can eat a reasonable sized portion when dinning out instead of cleanning my plate...thank you band) -
Ok so i will be 4 weeks post op on Tues i had my surgery jan 26. Tomorrow I am going out with my hubby and friends for dinner and drinks. Is it too soon to have 1 alcohol beverage? What is safe to have?
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So basically it hurts to eat anything spicy and alcohol. I can't even drink a glass of wine without it burning. I am on Prilosec and he gave me a liquid today that is suppose to be a stomach barrier and also coat the esophogus. Is reflux a bad sign? I am very concerned. It isn't a sign of slippage or anything is it? I don't believe I am too tight. What are your thoughts? I will omit spicy and wine from my diet.
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I find it facinating that the stats are just like alcoholism only 5% percent of us (I am one) stay sober for the long haul I think it is frustrating tht Star won't talk but Hey! whatever... I, sadly- am an open book.. I don't tell everyone my stuff but enough. I have given up etoh 10 yrs then nicotine 5 years and now my final and most daunting addiction FOOD. There are other ways to keep it off other than mechanical but for me its about my addiction and anything I can do to help I'm up for it. I went to AA for ETOH I did the patch for nicotine and now I did the band after years of rebound weight gain. I am okay with that but when I was heavier I had to give myself some self esteem and believe I was beautiful INSIDE just so I would not go insane. Right now I have been banded since Oct and have only lost 17 # mostly in first 2 mth. The scale has not budged I am down one --2 sizes but ouch. I see Star and think DAMN I am work ing hard at least I think I am had 2 fills exercising 4-5 days a week.. ARGGG anyway I don't think Star is as pretty now I think maybe a little more weight like a 12 or 14 and she'd be hot. I still want to be full and huggable I don't wan to be fragile Shoot I wan to be able to see my private parts and tie my shoes wear a nice dress and show my arms. Thanks guys I love reading you you make it bearable Elda
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Jodie, I have to jump in this thread and second BJean's impression that you may be struggling with a disorder called Borderline Personality Disorder, or at least have some of the symptoms. This disorder is something that can be overcome or at least managed with therapy and sometimes medications. Sometimes people with BPD also have concurrent depression, which can make it much more difficult to deal with. Some of the traits include: 1. Frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment. 2. Unstable and intense relationships 3. Potentially dangerous behavior eg. spending, sex, using drugs/alcohol 4. cutting 5. Emotional highs and lows that may occur all in one day 6. Off the wall displays of anger (out of nowhere) ......and others. Many people with BPD are highly intelligent, witty and charming folks. That's why we want to help you here. You sound like a delightful person. Get some professional help...at any cost. You spent $15,000 dollars on the band. Don't let it all go down the drain but stopping your life changing experience now. Good luck girl!
