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New and feel alone!
lisamedinafw replied to vickilynn1973's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Ilenerm, thanks for addressing the alcohol issue. Anytime us RNY'ers try to re-write the plan, we will not succeed! -
I found a alcohol free wine called FRE it's made by Sutter Homes. The have 6 different flavors, such as Red Blend and Moscato. I bought it for the holidays, it was very good. Best part was not as many calories as regular wine, an 8 oz glass of the red blend has 70 calories.
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Do not be fooled by "Sugar Free", there is still sugar alcohol in the products as well as sucralose. Attached is a link to help you with the different between fat free and sugar free products. http://www.momswhothink.com/diet-and-nutrition/sugar-free-or-fat-free-to-lose-weight.html Either way I have found taking in natural sugar and fats will help curb your cravings and assist you in staying full longer. Try Salmon for fats or organic raw butter. How about cooking with coconut oil. It's wonderful. As far as sugar I love pineapple. Sweet and satisfying. Hope the article helps.
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New and feel alone!
ilenerm replied to vickilynn1973's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
What you're experiencing is very normal. Including the ***-sitting husband! LOL Your body has gone through a traumatic experience and needs time to heal. It is definitely hard to eat enough right now. You're probably on a liquid-only diet right now, so just try to have whatever you can. Broths, SF Jell-O, and Water. Sip your water whenever possible. sleep if your body tells you it needs sleep. Now is the time to rest and recuperate. Tell your husband to get you something if you need him to. But don't forget that you need to walk, so sometimes getting yourself something is good (as long as it doesn't mean lifting or doing anything you're not supposed to do). Walking will help with the tummy sounds, etc., too. When your dr says you can have Protein, add some high protein/low-or-no sugar shakes - maybe start off with some that are already made since they should be very smooth. If necessary, water them down (or add skim milk). It will take time to work up to the amounts you are "supposed" to have. Just remember, as you progress, to do it slowly and don't add anything that doesn't assist your being healthy (NO candies even when/if the dr says you can have them in moderation, and don't drink alcohol except once in a blue moon and very little of it). Take it from someone who regained 76 lbs and has been struggling to get down below the almost 50 lbs she finally lost!!! (As for the alcohol, that's because even many drs don't know the latest research on WLS and drinking. It turns out that RNYers get high quickly, may feel like it went through us quickly, but the effects and blood alcohol levels stay longer - plus we tend to become addicted to it very easily. Don't risk cross addiction.) End of "lecture." LOL Good luck! ♥ -
I've tried a few of the sweets recipes from Bariatric Foodie. (Make a small portion ahead of time and have it for a few days.) I just made two of the protein cheesecake ramekins (eating one now) and it is so good! I also got in the kick for a while of buying sugar free angel food cake or SF shortcakes and adding some low-carb toppings (cool whip, nuts, SF chocolate chips, torani syrup, PB 2). There's always sugar free candy, if one piece will satisfy you. But that's where the real sugar alcohol problem comes in. I learned my lesson the hard way!
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I've been eating Ben and Jerry's ice cream since day 14 with no harmful side effects and I've lost 22lbs and nearly five inches in 26 days. Ice cream goes down very easily and stays down but I limit it to 58g (2oz) per serving. I use MyFitnessPal.com to track everything that goes into my mouth. It's real easy to rack up empty calories with ice cream. However, ever since returning home from the hospital, I've been struggling with meeting my Protein requirements and consuming enough calories to meet my BMR. It will be 8 o'clock in the evening and, according to MFP, I will have only consumed 650 calories for the day. After meeting my protein goals, ice cream helps to provide a lot more energy than yogurt and, as long as I am well within my calorie goal for the day, there isn't one iota of guilt to contend with. The consumption of ice cream (bacon, chocolate, etc.) doesn't sit well with the abstinence model people (who warn against eating anything with processed sugar, wheat, and alcohol) but I don't believe in abstinence when it comes to food with the exception of carbonated beverages after VSG surgery. Learning how to eat in moderation is the key to long term success. Limiting foods high in calories in an attempt to offset the damages from grazing is the wrong approach I think... at least it is for me. The healthier approach is to abstain from grazing, not foods that you enjoy.
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I highly advise against drinking alcohol. It's just empty calories, hard on the stomach, and you end up getting more intoxicated than you think because your pouch is small. I agree though, that if you must drink alcohol, watered down vodka is probably the way to go. Do not get anything carbonated mixed in.
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OMG crazy drinking night!!! plz tell me its ok!!
LoLo9826 replied to LoLo9826's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I knew that no one would actually tell me that drinking was okay. I was just going through a tough time. I have since recovered and pulled myself out of the pits of hell! lol jk Although, I did feel pretty awful for the next few days following- guilt was horrible. I think the worst part though was my appetite the next day. OMG! I wanted to eat everything in sight. My band of course did not allow me to make any more regretful decisions but believe me I tried. So here I am back on course and determined to stay on the straight and narrow. I appreciate everyone comments! Oh and to answer your question back2petite, my stomach did feel a little bloated but otherwise it was fine. I did call my advocate to confess the next day. She told me that carbonation is fine in moderation but to remember beer was high in calories. I guess all docs are different. That being said, I will find other ways to relieve stress before turning to alcohol again. Like I said earlier, my appetite was insatiable, not to mention the headache. Thanks again! -
I posted this on another thread: be sure that you don't develop a transfer addiction with alcohol. It's very easy to convince yourself that you DESERVE a treat for being 'good,' and suddenly you're in the throes of another addiction! I speak from experience---I am currently detoxing from a ridiculous wine habit. SO DUMB--wasted calories and wasted time toward my goal of taking care of myself and living a healthy life.
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OTR, I'm still killing myself with food. On another post, I just wrote how i let myself "go" for the past 2 years. I didn't want to admit to it, but I did. I gained about 25 lbs. Not horrible, but I need to get a hold of this or else all will be lost. So about 11/2 weeks ago, I started on Atkins. Been doing well. Thought it wouldn't be hard, well today was day one of severe carb withdrawal. It was one hell of a day, but i did it. I was to the point of numbing myself with medication to stop the discomfort of withdrawal. I can only imagine what it must feel like to be withdrawing from drugs or alcohol. OMG it's terrible. But this evening I took benedryl to help me with the jitters, it's helping. I can just imagine how i would be tossing and turning tonight! LOL. I'm an addict. . never thought I'd say it, but here it goes. . Hello, my name is Ericka and I'm a food addict. . . .
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Oh my dear, how i can relate! I let myself "go" for the past 2 years. I thought for sure I was invincible but guess what? I am not. I gained weight, not a horrible amount but enough (25 lbs). Now I had to get a grip on it before it really got out control. I started Atkins with net carbs of 20g a day. It is so hard. I've been on it now for 1 1/2 weeks and as of today have finally gone into carb withdrawal. It is horrible. I can only relate how a addict to drugs or alcohol must feel. I was doing everything possible to avoid eating today. I had my meals as normal and stuck to the diet. This evening i was going nuts, ready to even take medication to dull the discomfort. But I didn't, I did take some benedryl because i know if i don't i'll be tossing and turning all night thinking about chocolate, crackers, cheesecake and other evil things. I then got onto the computer to keep my hands busy and put on a really good movie. It's so hard, but if i can do this so can you! Together we can overcome this monster and be victorious in the end! Thanks for listening.
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It's things with no nutritional value but high in calories. Things like alcohol, Cookies, pies, cakes, chips and crap like that. When I think of all the soda's that are sold each day and all that money spent on them and the calories and absolutely no nutritional value at all, none.
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"TakingControl" - You are welcome and yes it is good to know "it's not just you"! Everyone I really didn't know how much you have to mentally adjust to the affects of the physiologic( your digestive system) change you go through. I know we all had to have psych evaluations and I can see why even more now but those evaluations or sessions should really incorporate some of these familiar feelings and psychophysiologic( mental and physical) feelings we all have. I think of smokers trying smoking cessation ( stop smoking program) or alcoholics attending AA ( Alcoholic Anonymous). I would think that those who have any addiction, once they stop or withdraw from the source of their addiction have to physically and mentally adjust to loss of that dependence. Same for us, I suppose. Physically and mentally but the physical part is amped up due to a real anatomic change so our bodies are rewiring some circuitry. Pat yourselves on your backs because it takes real strength to accept and take on the challenge that we all have chose to take!!!!!Godspeed Sleevers!!!
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what post op 1-5 year diets look like
lisamedinafw replied to R4TNM's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
I just celebrated four years and 110 pounds lost on Dec. 30. I encourage you to maintain some support and never become complacent. If a food addiction has been part of your life, do not allow something else (like alcohol) to take its place. Use this tool/gift with wisdom and respect! -
starting my preop diet early
ready2haveanormalwaistline replied to ready2haveanormalwaistline's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Thats awesome that youve started ur preop diet that early and have been so successful. I didnt even think about it that early on it didnt seem real until my insurance approved it and i had a surgery date. I nevee thoughr id be scared not to chew my food only drink but i am. Food really controls the mind i understand drug and alcohol abusers now -
If you were a binge eater before
Ballermom replied to amytug's topic in Weight Loss Surgery Success Stories
I am an Emotional eater. My problem is Going long long periods at work without eating. My work is stressful and busy during that time I have no appetite . But after work i hunger for salty crunchy Popcorn after work, only once in a while though. I have a food and soda -cocktail - like . Not Alcohol but. Ive talked with the Psych person about. They called me an emotional eater. I m concern enough i won't risk my sleeve for popcorn! Just concern about my emotions! Because I've dropped my craving for most unhealthy foods but a few. I Especially kicked my addiction to Cake! And it was my BFF! Not joking! I had one for everyones birthday in my house, and certainly all holidays. when most didn't even want none at all. i would eat off it for days and some times I'd get so mad about my addiction, enough id throw almost whole cakes away. I loved specially made cake so much that i even had a personal Baker on speed dial, yall. Now i haven't had cake in 4 months and don't crave it! Yay! Saving me money. Lol I made it even though having 4 occasion to Celebrate with it ! -
If you were a binge eater before
GeauxForIt replied to amytug's topic in Weight Loss Surgery Success Stories
Thanks for the support, ladies. It means a lot. Sometimes this food thing is a lonely place to be. I'm trying to be brutally honest with myself and my crazy, unhealthy behaviors. I'm ready to give up my excuses (alcoholic father, mother married 5 times, moving so much when young, blah, blah, blah) and take responsibility for my CHOICES. Food was always there for me; a constant in my crazy life and the way my grandmother (another constant) showed love. Eating something yummy (read: bad for me) made me feel good and being full (stuffed!) made me happy. I struggle every day, but I've been to enough AA crap to know that all you can do it take it one day at a time. And some days, I can only take it 15 minutes at a time! But I'M DOING IT!! I have to. I have three beautiful, young children and an amazing husband who NEED and love me!! -
I am so thankful for all the support that is being poured out! That is what so many of us need. I am treating my eating as an addiction that is no different than an alcoholic. It is that serious to me. keep checking in yall. I weigh on monday mornings so I will try to post my results, hopefully it may be an encouragement to someone!
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Water....seriously that is the best thing you can drink. If you are asking about alcoholic drinks... Vodka and water heavy on water...with a splash of cranberry might be the closest to being the best.
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Water w Mio.........alcohol, not allowed for me for 6 months and not worth the calories.
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If you were a binge eater before
GeauxForIt replied to amytug's topic in Weight Loss Surgery Success Stories
Good lord I love this thread. I am a binge eater and a secret eater. If I picked up food for work or home, I always had something "extra" to eat in the car on the way back. If I had to stop at the drugstore, I got a candy bar and ate it before I got home. I'd sit in my car and eat lunch after driving through somewhere bc I didn't want anyone to see how much I ate. And when I'd get donuts on the way to work, I pretended that some of them were for my coworkers, but they were really all for me. It's such painful behavior and it's both humiliating and liberating to admit it. My BFF and I (both with troubled childhoods and difficult mothers) "joke" about our addiction by saying, "Well, lets just go eat a hug." I've always HATED myself for having no willpower and feeling powerless over food. I'm about 3 months out from surgery and my appetite is returning to a certain degree. It terrifies me. To date, I have not "cheated". I'm proud of myself for choosing well so far and I have an amazing DH and circle of friends cheering me on. I know I'm one of the lucky ones. I'm trying hard to deal with my addiction to food and it is like dancing with the devil. I come my a family of addicts and worry every day that I can't do this. I told my DH, "It's like telling an alcoholic, 'I know you can't handle alcohol, but you'll have to drink it every day of your life and it's up to you to make sure that you drink only this certain type of alcohol and only in moderation.'" It seems almost impossible! . -
How does this work, again?
Uncle Ted replied to Uncle Ted's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
2MuchFun, Thanks for this video! I also watched the others associated with it and all I can say is: "Wow - lots of what's in there is counter to what I was told or read earlier". To summarize for others (and to explain my questions and concerns): There's no "pouch" that holds a meal. Instead the full feeling comes from many iterations of the espophagus squeezing food, bite by bite, through the band which signals satiety to the brain. Makes way more sense. Drinking during meals is fine, alcohol included. I was under the impression we were to wait 2 hours post meal to drink anything. 3 meals/day or less. Given that I'm supposed to get 1500 cals down, the only way I can see doing so when each should only include 1/2 cup of food is to supplement with Protein drinks and/or alcohol. If these vids aren't sticky'd, they should be (I didn't see them). Stuff like this is way more useful to me when I understand the what's, why's and how's. Beautiful! Thanks again! -
You need to get an unfill. Alcohol is definitely not smart. Call and talk to your doctors office about payment plan if you must, but get it fixed! Transfer addictions are real!
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Can't help, I don't drink any alcohol. Empty calories.
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How does alcohol relax the band? I've noticed this but it must constrict the tissue around the band..interesting.
