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did you "fall off the bandwagon" this holiday season?
gldngrrl replied to sylviau's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
In there's no trading food for alcohol for me. I love them both equally. I am pretty careful about it, my point was over the holidays there was a little more, along with all the other overindulgences.... -
did you "fall off the bandwagon" this holiday season?
Roscoe368 replied to sylviau's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
Avoid alcohol - empty calories. And it hits you harder since you're banded. Alcoholism in banded patients increase. Just saying. Why trade foodaholic for alcoholism? -
I know I'm a big wet blanket. Transfer addiction is very real. Anything that you need to do daily is an addiction. Yes I'm very sensitive to this because I grew up living with an alcoholic.
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I was told by my doctor not to drink for the first year due to the liver. He said that the rapid weight loss during the first year was hard on the liver and that drinking alcohol put it under additional strain. He also mentioned all the concerns that previous posters have mentioned such as getting drunk quickly and cross addiction. But the primary medical reason for him was liver function.
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I had a glass of wine about 3 months post op. with no side effects what so ever. I do not get drunk or buzzed any faster than before surgery. I like to have my glass of red wine at night becuase it is very healthy for you. Everyone is different and handles alcohol differently, I tolerate the alochol the same as before surgery. You just need to know that alcohol has empty calories so drink in moderation. My surgeons office said that you would get durnk quicker and to be very careful which I was when I first had a glass of wine. If you do have a drink I would make sure you are home, eat first, and see what your reaction is becaue you don't want to be out and get sick or really drunk. Do some testing at home first.
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Drinking Alcohol....
michelecaples replied to CP3482's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Also drinking is the number one transfer addiction bevause the alcohol hoes straigjt to.our intestines making it easier for us to get adficted to alcohol. -
Amount of Food and Your Mind
rosehips replied to Dreamingofhealth's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Great question. I am now 5 months out w/ 70 lb's off, 50 to go and loving my new size. I mention this because part of me is thinking maybe I am loosing motivation and that is why I want more food. I eat a 1/2 cup of food and if I try for more I am nauseous, I don't throw up but I hang over the sink thinking I might. Up until 4 months I was fine w/ the small portion. In December I found out I can eat anything, where b4 that I was not sure if I would dump. Then I started feeling like I wanted a quanity, like my husband eats. Before that, I am now remembering, the few restraunts I went to I had 1/2 in a doggie bag, ate a quarter of the serving and left the rest. I was satisfied. Now I want more. So I went to a support group, I always force myself to tell the truth there. As I listened to myself share I KNEW I needed to shift my thinking. Now when my head gets mad that I I ate a 1/4 tuna sandwich and that is it, I stop and remind myself I am thankful my pouch stops me because I continue to get smaller. Someone shared "as an alcoholic is new in sobriety, they think about alcohol and want to drink. As they continue to abstain & work a program the desire lessens.". It is the same for me, as I continue to work this tool I will have my success right next to me, w/ my continued exercise, exploring my food addiction and gratefulness I will deal with what comes my way. This post is convoluted , I hope I made some kind of sense. It sounds like I was loosing sight of my original goals. I am a work in progress. -
I haven't figured a way to cook for 1.5 people.... And for the past year my daughter and 18 month old granddaughter have been living with us... So i now cook for 3/4 which is most likely what i cooked for before. But I can honestly say my bill stayed about the same. If I was single I would be saving a bundle. What has gone down is eating out. When it just the two of us hubby eats like he did but I get an appetizer or something of the child's menu and no alcohol for me or sodas so our eating out bills have decreased dramatically. Also I used to spend at least $50 a week on lunches and that has dropped dramatically to basically nothing. However once in a while I will go out with coworkers for a treat but my bill is usually under 5$ depending on where we go.
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After rny your system can not break down the alcohol as it used to. You are drunker faster and it lasts longer taking as little as one drink.
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Why can wecdrink? Is it because Alcohol has empty calories or is there another reason we aren't allowed to drink for at least 6 months??
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What's happening is that your liver is burning off the alcohol. The results would be the same if you tested after drinking vodka. It does not necessarily mean you are out of ketosis. Alcohol can actually increase your ketone level in some instances as it's burned off. But you are burning booze, not fat. Two glasses of decent wine have at max maybe 8 to 10 g carbs. That will only toss you out if you are right on the border of your body's ketone max limits (which do vary).
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This is not true. People who don't understand wine often think that because wine is made from grapes, it must be full of sugar, like a grape right? The issue being is that the sugars in wine are cooked off during the fermenting process and turned to yeast. A typical glass of wine (4oz) has 3 to 5 carbs total in it when it's served to you in a bar. Wine will NOT Throw you out of ketosis. But as with ALL alcohol, what will happen is that while the booze is in your system, your liver will be processing the alcohol first, then when it's done it will go back to processing fat. The more booze that you drink the less time the liver has to work on fat. The only wines that are high in sugar are cheap cheap wines with added sugars (which increase the alcohol content). Flavored coolers etc are also high in sugar. Cheap sparkling wine often has added sugars as well, though not much. Drink good wine and don't drink a lot of it and you'll stay in ketosis. Drink lots of cheap wine and add those numbers to your daily totals...and you might find you're thrown out of ketosis, but good wine alone isn't going to do that any more than any other alcohol. BTW...due to labeling laws, flavored vodka's are not required to list a sugar content. The flavoring does have sugar in it so if you do feel vodka is your choice drink..make sure its not flavored.
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Exactly why I am doing this study. People ask this question so many zillions of times a month. I am going to have data to share for the one zillion and one time someone asks when they can have alcohol and why can't they have beer, etc.
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thanks for the tips, seems everyday that goes by i get more and more fed up with my drinking. going to try and go this weekend without drinking. as far as your comment about your friend she must have been a bybass because our pyloric valve doesnt allow alcohol to pass any sooner.
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I am having this same problem. My surgeon said it could be the protein shakes or the sugar alcohols. Is anyone else consuming a lot of sugar alcohols?
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My doctor prescribed Zofran and that really helped. I also used a nurses trick of sniffing an alcohol wipe. Thankfully, I never actually through up and the nausea passed by day 4. It WILL get better. Keep your chin up :-)
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Beer with the lapband
♥LovetheNewMe♥ replied to spwlfd035's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
The only beer I can tolerate is Guinness and than I can only tolerate one that takes me about 2 hours to drink. I did not try a beer until after I was over a year post op, yes I know we are not to have carbonation or empty calories but this is life and I do enjoy a drink. I do also have wine and an occasional martini, but I also counted every single calorie I drank. This is my life with lap band and I am not perfect but it is my life and I have chosen to find a way to live with lap band. Is drinking on a regular basis good for weight loss the answer would be no with or without lap band. Alcohol is empty calories and no i am not the lapband police just my personal opnion. -
It is normal, but needs to be addressed. Just like alcoholics/drug addicts don't go for help because they know they will miss it. It rewards them just like food does for us. You're taking the first step by admitting you have a true addiction .. Now you need to get your head in the right place. The sleeve helps, but not without the right mind set. Therapy is most likely the best option if you believe it's going to continue to be an issue. Pre- op I panicked and ate everything in sight to where I was so disgusted in myself it made me face the fact that I was no better than the town coke head .. It's like I hit rock bottom... I was seriously pathetic and I cringe just thinking about. Good luck.. We're all here for you!
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watching people eat
maria pepe replied to hajones5891's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Judgement? Maybe. Definitely a clear recognition and mirroring of my past behaviors and a desire not to return to that life style. I had to eat every piece of crap that I did to get to where I was that led to the surgery and a new way of life. It is the same way I look at active alcoholism. I can live without booze...I can not live without food. I am committed to a new way of life. Some days I do better than others. -
It can throw you out of ketosis, but it doesn't necessarily do that for everyone. Listen to your doctors recommendation on when you can resume alcohol. If you are having issues with not consuming alcohol, you might want to ask yourself why. Sent from my iPhone using VST
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Drinking Alcohol
delta_girl replied to vanessabalderas's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Drinking alcohol also throws you out of ketosis. I'm doing a personal study on this with the level of ketosis and time passed post-alcohol using ketone strips. -
How long were you advised to wait until you consumed alcohol? What happened when you drank for the first time?
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I had a glass of wine 7 weeks out at Xmas - went down fine. Since then I have had gin and low cal cranberry at a wedding and 3 glasses of wine at new years eve. It does not affect me at all. Don't get tipsy or anything. All gets logged onto my fitness planner and still manage to stay within my calorie limit After the silly season is out of the way I don't see myself wasting empty calories on alcohol! Just know your limits and you'll be fine
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Have some diluted fruit juice instead. Or water with lemon or lime. You don't ever "have" to have alcohol to celebrate anything.
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I would save the $12. You mentioned you can take it or leave it. Since that will be your first time drinking it would be a real drag if the alcohol did not settle well and you were unable to celebrate and feel good. Good luck which ever way you chose.
