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Marijuana and Life after Bariatric Surgery
lauren8486 replied to jadama22's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
What a bunch of wet noodles! Marijuana is technically a drug, yes...but it's a hell of a lot safer than alcohol. Have you ever seen an angry pot head? The worst that can happy with a little pot is you may hug someone a bit longer than socially acceptable, laugh a little louder at a joke or, god forbid, get a great nights sleep! OH, THE HUMANITY! Personally, I use marijuana as a sleep aid. I've struggled with insomnia for most of my life. Melatonin no longer works for me. I've been on Ambien, Lunesta and (lately) Trazadone. I'd much rather smoke a little organic pot (my uncle grows and uses all organic fertilizers and pesticides) and sleep well than pump myself full of big pharma chemicals. @@jadama22, I'm interested to hear what you've decided and how it impacted you. -
Marijuana and Life after Bariatric Surgery
jadama22 replied to jadama22's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hi Trish Olson, Thanks for your feed back, I am not much of a drinker, but I do have wine once in a while. Some of the postings I've read show that some go through many psychological changes and may develop dependencies, such as the over use of alcohol and behavior changes like maybe becoming compulsive shoppers and over spending. I believe it is very critical to make sure that if one has any underlying issues that may cause overeating and a sense of comfort derived from food that lead to binge eating - it is critical pre-surgery to seek that help beforehand find out what is going on that may be causing it, Because of my choice to seek surgery and realizing my bad emotional eating habits, I chose to see a psychologist so that I can sort through my emotions now. I'm finding that some of it is coming from traumatic events experienced in my early child hood, but the great thing is that I am addressing it and facing my demons head on. I truly want to change my life with regard to my weight, but also to have a complete transformation in the areas of mental and spiritual health. -
protein drinks 6mnths down the line
jtag10_4 replied to slimmy120's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I agree - it is the easiest start to my day! The whole point to the not drinking liquid calories IS THE USELESS liquid calories i.e. milkshakes, Frappuccino's, alcohol - there is nothing useless about 150 calories and 20 grams of Protein as a meal! My Dr also requires us to get 65-75 grams of protein in a day - I can't eat enough food to get that much in, and protein supplements are HIGHLY recommended in order to meet the dietary requirements. -
Those who drink diet pop post-op {Only nice comments PLEASE}
LipstickLady replied to Beck90's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
I agree with all of this. I returned to diet soda for a few reasons. I like it. I like the fizz, I like the taste, it pleases me. Plain water hits my stomach hard post op, so my NP suggested Crystal Light, G2, etc. There goes the artificial sweeteners argument. My plan allowed decaf coffee after week one. There goes the acid argument. (That said, I cannot drink wine -- it kills me with heartburn.) My plan allowed regular coffee at week 6 as long as you drink a correlating number of Fluid ounces of something else. There goes the dehydration piece. Again! I am not encouraging anyone to go against doctor's orders. I am simply relaying MY experience with MY surgeon. My books at seminar said no soda, alcohol, smoking, carbonation, fried foods, Pasta, potatoes, chocolate, ice cream, rice, etc. ever again. My surgeon and NP then work with individual cases to adjust those directions according to the needs, success and new habits of the individual. -
If I Dont Lose The 10Lbs
ChooseToChange replied to newgrandmother's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
newgrandmother.... I coach people here in Tampa Bay and when you do the right things you can stay full and lose it safely. SugarFree is not the way to go. Sugar free just puts other crap in the food to make it taste good. - After reading the above there are lots of tips and tricks that you will use post surgery so might as well start them now. MYFITNESSPAL.com - absolutely the most important tool for staying accountable to yourself. choosetochange.org is my website and blog. Follow the blog I have lots of recipes that will work to help you eat cleaner. When I put people on a detox it is a way to clean their system and remove the cravings that we all have. Figure out your vice and start there first. COLD TURKEY... Get through the first week and you will be golden. DETOX - Eliminate Gluten, Dairy, Soy, Sugar, Alcohol and all Vinegar and Oil based products. (Exceptions are Cold Pressed Olive oil, Coconut Oil and Sunflower Oil) Find a Pea Protein (It is natural as long as it is certified Organic; message me for suggestions) Change your milk to unsweetened almond milk (perfect for gluten free oatmeal, baking and protein shakes) All of the categories above are natural allergens and your digestive system stores the excess until you clean yourself out. The average American holds 20-40lbs in their digestive track of undigested bi-products. Get yourself a colon cleans product for week 2. Make sure you are drinking 4-6 20oz bottles of water a day.... Vitamin Water Zero is the only flavored water that doesn't contain artificial sweetners. It is detox approved. This DETOX takes some getting used to, but you will lose 10 lbs in your first week if you don't cheat on yourself. I would be happy to help you out and coach you through the month and beyond if you want. I have a facebook, skype and blog dedicated to helping non-ops and ops lose weight and eat cleaner! -
ATTN drinkers, here's my story
Susanne replied to Derp's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
I was told no alcohol 3 months out. Why do you want to test the waters? I don't know any profession or "boy's club" that would not tolerate NOT drinking - this is lent, this is the one time a year where you can easily say "I am cutting it out for lent" - how about trying out THAT Water? I know you don't want to hear it, and I won't say anything after this - but your excuses ring like "full blown alcoholism" to me, You are "testing if you can drink", worried about not being able to drink, very high tolerance for alcohol (considering you are 2 weeks post op), considering drinking an "unavoidable part of your life", considering 3 cocktails in 1 night "extremely light", and your hundreds of hours of research show that your focus on alcohol is taking a huge part of your life... Denying that you have a problem with alcohol even before anyone said anything is a clear sign that you have heard it before and thought about it yourself before. You may not be worried about yourself, but I am - and I am 100% sure that every single person who read your posts in this thread is worried about you too. Good luck to you Susanne -
Follow up from Monday's fiasco from taking Nyquil. I did not go to the ER, but I did follow up with my surgeon on Wednesday. He looked at my incisions again, and I told him about the pain wrapping around from the front to the left back, I told him how I cannot sleep in my bed now, I cannot walk on my treadmill, I cannot sit at the table for more than 2 minutes; all things I could do right after surgery. I also told him that my belly is bloated, and my stools are watery. He tried to assure me I was fine, I was just healing. I insisted that he at least check my blood levels, amylase specifically to check on my pancreas. He finally gave me a script, ordered a CBC, Chemical profile and Amylase levels STAT. I had them done there at the hospital and waited for the results, Well, my Amylase level IS ELEVATED. He had me go on clear liquids effective immediately and call him on Friday morning and if the pain is not resolved he will order at CT Scan. I feel somewhat vindicated, but if he really thought my pancreas was compromised he would have admitted me to the hospital and made me NPO (nothing by mouth) and started IVF's and antibiotics. But as I have no fever, and no active vomiting he is taking a more conservative route. He did make a comment in the office that pancreatitis only happens if alcohol is involved. I assured him the last alcohol I had was last New Year's Eve! Today I was on clears alll day, and I tried walking and decreased the Tylenol, the pain feels the same, not worse, not better. Will call tomorrow and request the CT Scan.
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Hi Betty, I was where you're at around Thanksgiving and began moderate alcohol consumption again. I was 216 then and now 193 - down 23 pounds or about 2 lbs a week. I am 3 lbs from goal. I also am finding that on days when I drink, I also end my stall and actually lose weight. At least that's been the case for 9 of the last 11 weeks! It wasn't an easy decision because it was ahead of schedule per my program, although their advice was inconsistent. Here are my own personal rules: 1. Don't drink everyday - even if you're only having one. This is good for your diet, your liver, and keeps you in full control and knowledgeable that you're on the safe side of any sort of addiction. 2. Log everything you drink and their associated calories. Stay within your calorie limits. 3. If you do this, you'll be limited to 1-3 pure drinks. I drink bourbon and Water, red wine, and vodka (all around 100 calories a drink). In the case of vodka, I started with a shot in a 12 ounce wine glass full of ice. I would let it sit for 10 minutes until it became vodka and water. I am now adding seltzer water up front. I know that it is carbonated, but the vodka seems to kill the bubbles. It looks completely flat. 4. Wine (red) is the only thing I drink when I'm out to dinner. It is easy to sip one glass over the course of a 1-2 hour dinner. 5. I am on an antacid and since ulcers are the primary risk of alcohol consumption, I take it a few hours before my cocktail. Also, recognizing that alcohol is a diuretic, I make a point to drink extra water before and after. I think the key is moderation and if you do drink, have a plan and stick to it. Like most simple carbs, it's a slippery slope, so be aware and be careful! Cheers...
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I am the only one frustrated?
miranda robinson replied to als74's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
as one post pointed out,the problem if needing to be banded is due to addiction to food and with all addiction the emotion part of learning to quit the eating behaviours that landed us in this position is deniel of that addiction. the brain plays a huge component part in any addictive behaviour and some find this harder than others to beat it. the difference between alcoholism and overeating is that we have to eat to live and this makes thing emotionally so much more difficult to conquer the desire to eat the things that make us feel happy and contented. the knowledge that this is also a brain disorder needs to be adresses as well and it is not just an issue of stupidity. -
Glass Of Vino After Surgery? What Are The Consequences?
Escape_Pod replied to CCWriter's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
What I read is that rapid weight loss puts a lot of strain on your liver, and alcohol strains it even further, so the combination is just not a great idea. There's also the fast inebriation effect you mentioned, and the possibility of a transfer addiction. I think all three factors combined is why so many surgeons advise against alcohol, at least for awhile. Personally, I've just never given a hoot about drinking, so the extra empty calories and carbs for something I don't miss aren't worth it. I'd much rather have a mini Reeses pb cup! To each her own..... -
First glass of wine stories?
belbarr1 replied to BeachBabe's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Ok, I can say that I had my first taste of post-op alcohol last weekend. (I am 3 wks post-op as of Monday) I had about 3 drinks. The worst part for me was the way I felt the next day. I HAD a high tolerance for alcohol but I felt very hungover and VERY dehydrated. It was difficult to not gulp a bottle of water, especially with food. I was soooo thirsty. It just wasn't worth catching up on hydrating. I will definately be more cautious next time and limit myself to 1 drink. And I didn't really need the additional calories. Feeling a little guilty about it now. :biggrin: -
2 Weeks Post Lap Band Surgery And A Margarita???
icequeen813 replied to Kellysue's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
Why would you sabotage your weight loss this early? Did your MD, provide you with a diet to follow the first 6 weeks post-op? There are empty calories in alcohol, personally I rather eat,than waste calories on wine or cocktails.I would wait until you have completely healed. By the way,once you have been banded, alcohol affects you quicker,according to other posters. -
Good to hear that all of you are excited about being banded. I will tell you that I would be banded over and over again if I had known that I would have felt the way I feel. I was banded on January 15, 2007 and have lost a total of 28 lbs since then. I have not had any problems nor has it been a challenge to find things to eat nor energy. I have pretty much stayed on task with the diet or healthy eating habits. I think I have lost so well because, once I saw that I had lost a little weight, I was encouraged to keep myself strict to my doctors orders. I went on tueday for my first fill and I would like to share that experience with you all. They first accessed my port area to determine whether or not my incissions were healing correctly. He had me to place both of my legs together and lift them six inches. This allowed the port to pop/lift in the muscle under the skin. He then swabbed me with alcohol and injected the saline. Now, I will tell you that it feels really weird. It kind of feels like you have butterflies in your stomach.:faint: It was not bad, but when I first saw the needle, I was like (What????). Yeah, I knew there was going to be a needle, but not so large. It did not hurt, but it did feel funny. It was not an immediate restriction, but today I have eaten a smalll cup of apple sauce and am satisfied. Just think, I began this thing weighting 248 lbs and am now 218.5 lbs. All I can do is be excited for everyone else beginning or on this journey. Congratulations to all of you who have made this life saving decision.
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it can also be if you have issues with certain sugar alcohols, so I would read the labels of what you are consuming to see if that could be a possible issue. I know how rough it is since I was on Metformin before surgery and had constant diarrhea. mostly have to manage to not be constipated now.
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Is your surgery a secret?
Shaydi.Laine replied to Tara1992's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I was worried about this also, but so far it's been easy, I was even able to keep it from a best friend of 23+ years. (Just to see if could get away with it. He was the one person I finally told.) Luckily the weight loss bit is one thing you wont be able to keep to yourself. That's going to be blatantly visible. (yay!) So the fact that you are on a "diet" is sort of a "duh" answer. It's also enough of an explanation for how you are eating, not drinking booze, and no one notices that I don't touch my Water at the dinner table. The "diet" I am on, as I would tell anyone, is low carb, really small portions, and no alcohol. (That last bit is gonna change, but will remain minimal. Alcohol has always stalled my diet efforts.) You can also say you are eating 6 small meals a day instead of 3 large ones and it's working. Take those leftovers with you. You will want them later Surgery or no surgery, weight loss results are achieved through our own efforts and actions. The fact is that anyone can eat around their surgery and completely blow it, not to mention the effects of the surgery will wear thin eventually. The bulk of this is on us. We're just learning all the right moves for getting it off and more importantly, keeping it off. -
Carbonation is BAD!!! Alcohol might not feel like it's effecting you but the alcohol registers in your blood and breathilizer as if you are drunk if you drink to much. So my suggestion is your stay away from it.
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This has been a very tough winter for a lot of us here in the midwest and I have heard many, many people talk about being depressed. I have heard that taking the vitamin Bs as there is more than one of those little guys, is suppose to help with depression and so as soon as I can take pills again, I am going to buy some. I try burning scented candles in my house when it is dreary out, but it is just darn tough to deal with and I really feel for those of you who have it so bad. I agree with Trystelle that is seems to run in woman and especially those of us who are really over weight. I think in the past, men who had depression, drank to deal with it and thus the reason for so much alcoholism in families with depression. Sounds like a lot of good suggestions are coming out with this thread and I plan on trying some of them.
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sleepwonderful sleep I wish I wasn't addicted to reading these damn post...alcohol...hmmm...nahhh I don't like it much....Shesh thank goodness or I'd be fat and brused from all of myb stumbling. LOL:rolleyes:
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Good luck with your dietician appointment, I found this a little overwhelming to start with it made it very real for me and the extent of the changes to be made but that’s all settled in my mind now so I am happy with the decision. I love that you are feeling calm about it most of the time, I will get there, each day I feel a little less worried. I usually suffer with anxiety, and although I feel emotional the anxiety seems to have eased - which is amazing! My pre op is 1000 calories a day until Xmas day and then to counter Xmas day (which can be a sensible Xmas day with no alcohol) I am then 800 calories a day until the op on the 30th. I can have the calories however I want just not alcohol which isn’t a problem I’m not a big drinker anyway. post op is weeks 1-4 liquids building up protein intake, but the dietician gave great ideas, such as using milk powder mixed with milk to double up your protein intake. Weeks 5-7 soft food then gradually onto normal foods, just tiny portions. There is still such a stigma in the UK as well maybe we should be the ones to records our journey so that others can gain inspiration. Good luck with your journey 😊
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I wasn't much of a drinker & suddenly I love it. I began drinking too much but not to the point of being or acting stupid. I stop my self cuz #1 wine is expensive and I don't want to become an alcoholic #2 I rather drink more cafe from Starbucks lmbo seriously I was over drinking but now I do it like weekends or skip a week or so but no more a daily glass or two of wine
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I have a few alcohol drinks since surgery, and have no problems, mostly juice and some rum or vodlka...... Will also drink on my European adventure coming soon, just not in excess, my nut sd caffeine is fine, but not in excess.....as in anything else...
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ATTN drinkers, here's my story
Tiffykins replied to Derp's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
I'm glad you had a good 1st experience. Keep in mind, and for anyone else out there contemplating drinking alcohol during the losing stage, your liver is working double time during the rapid weight loss phase. Tossing alcohol in the mix early out can task your liver even more. Dehydration and wasted calories is the biggest concern, but there are other factors out there as to why the limitation and restriction on having alcohol early out. Best wishes in your continued recovery. -
Agree with PhotoEgor. How can the state legislate parental theory? Outlawing spanking because some abuse.....why not outlaw alcohol because some abuse?
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I overcame alcohol and caffeine and sugar products Sent from my U307AS using BariatricPal mobile app
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I was told to wait primarily because during the weight loss phase your liver is having to work like crazy to get rid of the toxins that your fat cells are releasing, and if you add alcohol to that could be very damaging.. and of course also the increased risk of alcoholism. Glad I wasn’t much of a drinker before (like.. 10 drinks a year maybe?) because dealing with food habits and changing those for the better is already a LOT! So much respect for all of you who are dealing with missing alcohol on top of everything else 🌸
