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Major Meta Study: Mini Gastric Bypass as revision after Sleeve/Band is highly effective
Ninabnina77 replied to a topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Wow, your so educated about bariatric procedures. I am so impressed. Thank you so much for taking the time to answer all my questions so thoroughly. I was under the impression the reason why the mini bypass was called mini when compared to the full bypass was because the mini had less intestinal bypass. So I guess was wrong and the by pass has more intestinal bypassing? When comparing the full to mini bypass, is the stomach made smaller in the full bypass? Would you say the full bypass has more restriction than the VSG? As I mentioned before, I have a life long problem with binge eating and I am always hungry. The VSG did minimal to help me in these two area, hence me looking into other surgical options. Right now my Dr. put me on contrave and it seems to be helping, but I don't want to be dependent on medication forever, I was hoping I could find a surgery that could provide me with a permanent fix. Btw, I am 5ft 7 inches tall, at my highest weight before the surgery I had gone up to 235 lbs. I had the VSG in June 2019. I managed to get down to 165 lbs, but took me teo years. Than I started gaining weight again I went up to 185 lbs. My dr has put me on contrave for the past 3 months and I have gone down to 170 lbs. I was neve able to reach my goal weight of 140 lbs. I live in fear of gaining all the weight back and having this vsg fully fail all the time. You look amazing, I wish I looked as good as you. [emoji1303] Sent from my SM-N950U using BariatricPal mobile app -
Why don't more people get the MGB? I love mine!
cspera replied to UnderTheCaliSun's topic in Mini Gastric Bypass Surgery Forum
I had my mgb Nov 2019 and have loved it. I didn't have a single side effect and eat/drink everything I did before the surgery. I went from 240 to 170 in about 4 mos and then eventually made my goal weight of 150. My only issue is loose skin but I deal with it for now. I haven't had reflux since before the procedure and taking a bariatric multivitamin every day has made my lab values perfect. All this without even exercising. I would probably be a size 8 if I hit the gym, but I'm too busy and love my size 12. If anyone is considering it, do it. I had mine in Tijuana after a yr of research. Best $5000 I ever spent!!! -
it's going to vary pretty widely because it depends on so many factors besides starting BMI (although that's a big one, of course). Gender, age, metabolic rate, activity rate, what percentage of your body is muscle - those all play a role. that said, I lost 57 lbs before I had surgery (between my six-month supervised diet that was required by my insurance company, plus the two-week liquid diet required by the surgeon). At one year out, I was 129 lbs down from my surgery weight, and 186 lbs down from my all-time highest weight. I went on to lose another 50 or so lbs during year 2 (have gained 20 of it back since then, which is pretty common. A lot of us experience a 10-20 lb rebound gain after hitting our lowest weight). P.S. Just noticed this was posted in the gastric sleeve forum - I had bypass. Average loss tends to be a little more with bypass (although not by much), but it totally depends on the person. If you really stick to your program, you can be very successful with either.
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March 2022 Surgery Buddies
UniqueHandle replied to LilaNicole20's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hi everyone! I thought I would finally check in. I had my surgery last Tuesday, March 22. I am six days post op and feeling okay. I was able to de-gas by Thursday (ugh, gas pains are the worst) and I have been having daily bowel movements since then. I have a lot of medical issues and one of them is kidney disease and my kidneys are not at all happy about this surgery, which was a concern before surgery. I've actually gained weight because I cannot pee. All the water I drink has nowhere to go but my feet, ankles and legs. I am eating about 250 calories a day because my new stomach (Phoebe) hates everything (everything tastes like metal - probably because of my meds). Oh, and I can't seem to keep my heart rate above 50. That's all the bad stuff. The good news is that I haven't had any pain meds since the day of my surgery. My nausea isn't as bad as expected and after over doing it on Friday and taking it easy over the weekend, my incision pain is not too bad. Every day I set a goal for myself and so far, I am hitting my little goals. 🎖️ -
at less than one year i was at my goal weight was it easy no worth the effort hell yes
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What was your "this is it" moment
The Greater Fool replied to jamaro2795's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I was always unrealistically sure I could do it with good 'ol diet and exercise, even at 700+ pounds. I happened to read an article that hid it's true topic about weight loss, so learning about WLS snuck up on me. Other than weight and some related DDD and knee issues, my health was good, but the writing was on the wall. By time I finished the article I spent the weekend obsessively researching until I decided WLS was for me. I rejected the available surgeries other than RNY for various reasons, selected a local surgeon, and started doing tests to get approved. It took about 4 months from that weekend to getting approved and having surgery. Never once regretted my decision. My surgery addressed every issue I asked of it and I followed through on my promises to myself. 18 years later and we are both still doing our jobs. Because of all this I've done things both big and small of which I never thought I'd do in my wildest dreams. Good luck, Tek -
Why Do People Think It's Okay To Tell You You're Fat?
Smanky replied to GradyCat's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
With the exception of the occasional stranger really leaning into their fat-shaming misogyny (getting "fat sl*t!" yelled at you from a passing car is always such a treat), the only adult who ever really badgered me about my weight was my mother. And it was relentless, especially when I was younger. Other women and men though, less so, though there's always the non-verbal stuff like huffing when your seated next to them. And my personal favourite: men who completely ignore you in a conversation to focus on your thin friend. Some people are just garbage, honestly. Rude, shallow jerks who feel entitled to your space. And taking their own unhappy lives out on others. -
Why Do People Think It's Okay To Tell You You're Fat?
Esi replied to GradyCat's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Fortunately, I haven’t ever been called fat as an adult. But the numerous times I was bullied throughout grades 5-12 made up for it. I did get asked by a colleague once if I was pregnant (um…nope…) and people have made many positive comments since I lost weight. So, I know people were always looking and judging…just didn’t say it to my face. Like Ms.sss wrote, people suck! It’s just made me all the more caring and empathetic to people who are obese or going through other tough situations. -
What was your "this is it" moment
ShoppGirl replied to jamaro2795's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
During COVID I was trying and actually losing weight by dieting and exercising on a treadmill at home. Until my knees started to hurt pretty bad after just a short ways on the treadmill. I was a BMI of around 33 then and the weight was already taking a toll on my knees. Well then I took some time off the treadmill as the dr suggested and started to gain it back (the little I had lost). I just realized then that the problem was only going to snowball with every pound I gained. -
September Surgery Buddies!!
Blueeyekitten replied to happilylacey's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Wow!!! That is great. I loss 74 so far; hoping to lose another 40. That will put me at my goal weight 😊 -
First things first: AMAZING JOB ON YOUR WEIGHT LOSS! You can and will keep it up! Next: Get out your tools. Grab MyFitnessPro and start scanning everything you out in your mouth. Drink your 64oz water or more every day. Start weighing daily on a Bluetooth scale and watch how water weight and activity impact your weight, then when you have a good day, you'll be able to see what you did and repeat the cycle. I can understand slowing and stalling at 8 months, especially if your activity has stopped, but you don't want to be overeating and gaining, it's obvious you know that. Don't let those bad feelings make you eat. It's your choice. Think of your kids when you get those feelings and find something protein packed to eat on! You got this!!!!
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Eating carbs (pasta, rice, or bread )
ms.sss replied to New_me_2022's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I never really removed ALL carbs from my diet (i think that would be really difficult), but I did go ultra-low carb during weight loss phase, < 25g NET a day. I didn’t really use any substitutes during weight loss phase, but i did try making cauliflower crusts…while good, i deemed them too much effort and just went without. After goal (approx 7 months) I did start using more substitutes (shiratake noodles, chicken crusts, zero carb bagels). The noodles were good, but super filling, the chicken crusts are effing delicious and i have yet to enjoy any type of zero carb bread (its NOT bread!). It took me a few months to lose my fear of carbohydrates, but by around 1 year (or was it 2?) post op, i started eating desserts and bread and pasta again. Granted i only eat really yummy bread or pasta (i.e., homemade by Mr.) but still. Nowadays i dont put limits on my carbs anymore (im 3.5+ years out) and just keep an eye on total calories. So far so good. -
Why Do People Think It's Okay To Tell You You're Fat?
DaisyAndSunshine replied to GradyCat's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Fat shaming happens in almost all cultures. Some culture more than others. I grew up in India and even normal BMI back then, I was called fat 🤷🏻♀️ (I am short so even little bit of weight and it would show up). Mom faced similar trajectory too. She was always called chubby even when she weighed 47 kilos at 5'0. Again normal BMI 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️ For Indian culture I suppose anything more than 19 or 20 of BMI and your chubby/fat 🤦🏻♀️ Plus the first thing family (close and extended) would comment is on your weight no matter where you go. Happened a lot to me growing up. And after PCOS, I blew up and comments everytime I visited India were around my weight than my achievements 🤷🏻♀️ Similar weight culture can be found in other Asian countries too. And Yeh, some people can slid it off but it's difficult to do so when you're only judged constantly based on your weight all your life than your success in life. Aka life took a deep blow and dive over chronic piled on years of criticism. It affected mental health dramatically and results have been disastrous. Still trying to climb up through the rabbit hole. Hopefully after WLS, life will take a different turn. So yeh, criticism/suggestions from parents or siblings or even your doctor doesn't bother much, but constant weight related remarks from every tom d**k and Harry does pile up. It's easy to say ignore and move on but quite difficult to practice. Though truly, best practice is to ignore and do your thing that is best for your health. Social media also has this "If one is fat, what else are they supposed to be called?" Or that "calling out fat people will help them lose weight 🤦🏻♀️" All that is nothing but a way to mock fat people and take out their frustrations on others. -
What was your "this is it" moment
oldandtired replied to jamaro2795's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Mine was different. I am older, so I have Medicare. My husband was a veteran, so I also have Tricare. I look through the sites occasionally, just because there are changes over the years to coverage, fees, etc. I have always struggled with my weight, but as I got older and less active, I gain a pound here and there. Well--over the last 3 to 4 years, I eventually went on BP meds. Imagine my surprise when I saw that a BMI of 35 and over, with a co-morbidity (as in diabetes, OR high blood pressure) could qualify you for them paying for the WLS! Took six months of jumping through various hoops, and here I am. (Everybody thought I was nuts, but other than the nausea, I have never looked back.) -
a 5-6 lb gain in two weeks is almost too much to be due to a decrease in exercise or increase in food - so I suspect at last some of that is either water or full intestines. If so, at least a couple of lbs of that should drop off within a couple of days. As for the rest - if you're no longer logging your food intake, I'd start with that to see what and how much you're taking in. I find that if I take in more than 1700 calories for more than a day or two, my weight starts heading up (and that number is going to be different for everyone depending on age, gender, activity level, etc...). I'm OK with calorie counting, but some people hate doing that. If you're one who doesn't like it, then I'd go back to eating like you were a few months after surgery (as in NOT all the way back to protein shakes and an obscenely low number of calories - but the whole spiel of eating protein first, then nonstarchy vegetables. And then, if you're still hungry, maybe a small serving of fruit or whole-grain carb). losing weight can be a huge struggle once you're a few years out, but people do it...
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Why Do People Think It's Okay To Tell You You're Fat?
ms.sss replied to GradyCat's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
My mother and aunts and older female cousins (and my PCP) are/were the only ones that talked to me about my weight gain…at least to my face. They never actually called me fat, but did say things like “maybe you should lose some weight”, “oh you’ve gained weight”, “you are bigger than the last time i saw you”, “you are eating too much”, etc etc. In the case of my PCP, he said stuff like “losing weight may help alleviate x” It was annoying, but i chalked it up to busy-bodiness on my family’s part at least. But i will say i got like 50x more comments than i ever got to my face about needing to gain weight, looking sick, not eating enough, being too skinny in the one year after WLS than i did about being fat in the 10-ish years i was overweight. And from a wider range of people, including stangers. Which was equally annoying. Mind you these same family members say other stuff too like: “oh i think its time to dye your hair, i see greys”, “you look tired, do u have any makeup on?”, “your forehead wrinkles are showing”, “your legs aren’t the best for miniskirts”. 🙄 I just nod/change subject. People suck. Let it roll of u, if u can. P.S. My legs are awesome for miniskirts, thankyouverymuch. -
What was your "this is it" moment
catwoman7 replied to jamaro2795's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I had surgery at age 55 after being overweight or obese for most of my life (and REALLY obese after age 30). I spent literally decades on pretty much every diet known to man. The most I'd ever lose was about 50 lbs (usually it was more like 10 or 20 lbs). Then inevitably, I'd gain it back. As I got into my 50s, at over 300 lbs, I was afraid I'd never live to see my 60th birthday unless I got that weight off. I, too, never had any medical issues with it - no diabetes, no heart issues - all vitals were within the normal range - but i knew all that was likely just around the corner - if not an early death - if I didn't do something about my weight. I went to several info sessions on weight loss surgery put on by different surgeons and clinics just to see what it was all about. This started about 10 years before I actually decided to have the surgery. The one where I made the decision to go through with it was one where the surgeon leading the seminar had a big chart that went over all the benefits (80% reduction in this health issue, 100% reduction in this other health issue, blah blah blah - he went through a whole litany of problems obese people typically have, and how much the surgery was likely to improve or eliminate them). So I decided then and there that the benefit was well worth the cost, and I was going to do it. I, too, was worried about the horror stories - but weighing almost 400 lbs was also a horror story - a horror story waiting to happen. Plus those horror stories are rare. As Arabesque said, people post about problems because they're looking for advice or support. Those of us who never had issues aren't likely to post about that (e.g., "I had surgery four years ago and never had any problems!!" (you occasionally do see a post like that - esp when we're trying to reassure people who are scared to do it, but overall, people are much more likely to post if they've had a problem, since again, they're looking for support)). Also, the surgical techniques have vastly improved over the years, and having weight loss surgery nowadays is quite safe - it's not like it was back in the 60s and 70s, when it really WAS a risky proposition. anyway, I'm part of the crowd who say their only regret is that they didn't have the surgery sooner. In retrospect, I don't know why I waited so long. Best decision I ever made! -
I wish i could help you with the changing of your profile info but i think you need to go to the top right where it says my surgery Click on that then go from there, as far as your husband i admire him now did he just op doing or did he struggle with the sleeping eating i am on lunesta i guess is a big one for sleep walking/ eating i have been on it for years why all of a sudden now am i having issues good for you keeping the weight off, you're an inspiration to a lot of people.😎
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I’m 3 years out from my surgery. I’ve maintained my goal and been the same weight (within 5 pounds) for the last 2 years. my husband used to sleep eat. When he quit drinking, he stopped sleep eating too. I’m not saying this is the case with you.
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Why Do People Think It's Okay To Tell You You're Fat?
catwoman7 replied to GradyCat's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
at 160 lbs, you were only six lbs overweight (I'm also 5'6", and our normal BMI range goes up to 154 lbs). I doubt you even looked that "curvy" at that weight! So I'm surprised anyone would have even said anything - sheesh! They must have liked rail-thin women! my mother was always very appearance conscious. And most of my childhood I was on the high end of my normal BMI or slightly overweight. The way she went on and on about it, you'd have thought I weighed 400 lbs. I honestly think her obsession with my weight was a big factor in my lifetime of yo-yo dieting. I look back at pictures of myself in high school and college, where my weight bounced around between 155 and 170. Yes - I was technically overweight, but I looked fine. Sheesh. so anyway, yep - heard it from my mother since practically the day I was born. And of course, once I was an adult and started gaining weight (it got really bad once I hit my 30s), I heard it from other people, too. Do they think I didn't know it? Again - sheesh. -
3 years out and still afraid of gaining the weight back
Guest replied to RachaelLou's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
You're obviously a highly experienced (and by everything I've seen wonderful and insightful) bariatric patient. Yet I'm someone who fought (and won against) a serious eating disorder. I heard many, many people's stories in group therapy along the way. I work with local health authorities on early intervention in childhood medical care when it comes to preventing EDs, not because I don't already have a great job in a different field, but because we're approaching BED specifically from a harmful place. Every single story from BED suffers starts with a diet. From a normal or normal-adjacent weight. And it leads to spiraling diet-overeating-diet---> (the body will get its calories eventually, especially in someone whose coping pattern already involved getting morbidly obese). So I worry giving diet advice to someone at a completely normal bodyweight in counter-productive. Of course you're right in what you say. Of course. I just want to say to people reading here; it will never be good enough if you don't learn to live with yourself. 10 or 20 lbs will make no difference. But trying to take them off might get you right back to where you started. -
3 years out and still afraid of gaining the weight back
ms.sss replied to RachaelLou's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Ok, this may not be a popular opinion, but here goes: While there is evidence to support the theory of a constant body weight inherency (i.e., what is commonly discussed as “set points”), and that genetics do play a role one’s ability to lose/gain/maintain one’s weight, I would venture to say that a person’s weight is not so much immovably tied to a “set-point”, as much as it is tied to their lifestyle. Yes, it may require more effort for one person to get to 130 than another…it just depends if the former is willing to put in that effort indefinitely to reach and maintain an arbitrary weight number. For some it is, for others, not so much. For a couple years, every time i neared a self-imposed weight “red-line” i would tighten the reigns a little bit to get down to my “happy weight” again (we are talking a diff of 5 lbs here, so it was a pretty regular thing). Last year I decided it was too much effort too often and raised my “happy weight” by 5 lbs. I haven’t had to tighten the reigns since and enjoy eating/drinking in my own way without having to go out of my way to self correct every once in a while. Now i believe i could get back to sub 115 again if i reeeaaaaallly wanted to, but it turns out i don’t. And who knows, maybe i may raise (or lower) my happy weight again in the next couple years. Its all good. So if you want to get to 130’s and are willing (and at peace) to put in the effort, then yay! But i think if it gives you angst and takes away from life it may be in your best interest to rethink your expectations. Good Luck! ❤️ -
30 something Mom of a almost 4 year old girl looking to connect
Sleeve_Me_Alone replied to JS's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Welcome! Similarly, I'm a 30 something wife & mom, I work full time, and have struggled with weight all my life. I have CSG 6 months ago and it is the BEST decision I have ever made! I also recently joined BariNation and have really been encouraged by the support and resources there. Feel free to reach out if I can help in any way! -
April 2022 Surgery Buddies
Tina Jeter replied to Crinkles's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I'm April 29.in Denison Texas. So excited. It is my goal to get this weight off me. I have been fat all my life . Lose the weight then it creeps back until it's twice the amount I lost. I am or will be 61 on April 23 and have diabetes high blood pressure asthma and COPD. I take 6shots a day for diabetes and 1 pill plus about 15 other meds. I tired of not being able to walk anymore or anything else. So this is really life changing for.me. 5'3 286 I'm having sleeve surgery. Sent from my LGL722DL using BariatricPal mobile app -
Congrats on being a loser! (That's weight loss humor ~ I have to type in now when it's a good natured joke on this forum now) 🤗
