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I am now 5 weeks post-op. I follow the guidelines strictly and have lost a total of 38 pounds. I am looking so forward to this summer and all the traveling and camping. Being obese always hampered my excitement for these trips. I want to know from all the post-op folks who drink alcohol---- how long after operation did you drink - what did you drink--and how much??? Did you have any trouble with side-effects? I am hoping for many responses. Thank you.
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Dehydration long term & dizziness anyone?
sirensiren replied to sirensiren's topic in WLS Veteran's Forum
Glad to hear you are doing good Lissa, I remember seeing you on here when you were much bigger! It's weird to experience the feeling of your equilibrium being off (I put it this way, because it's not your traditional room spinning dizziness), but considering that my VSG friend shares the symptoms, all of our labs are normal and no doctor thinks we have anything seriously wrong with us- I find some odd comfort in the notion that a few doctors and friends have given me, is that the body adjusts in mysterious ways, and on a cellular level so many of us VSG patients are completely different people. I've dropped over 10 points on my BMI, which isn't much compared to some! I'll share all the info I get that has helped me or given me insight, as it seems like others experience some dizziness and balance issues too, and I think knowledge is power. Things that have helped: water! Increasing my hydration seems to be the most important part, but it takes a while after treating and recognizing that I was dehydrated or drinking alcohol to be symptom free. Acupuncture: I'm fortunate enough to work with a experienced Chinese medicine practicioner, and this has made my symptoms seems to go away sooner. Also, I'll add that it's quite easy to become a hypochondriac when you are feeling dizzy or off balance: stop it! Panicing and worrying that you are deficient or have a brain tumor or something serious will only make you go nuts. There are countless things that can make a person dizzy- get a physical, a full metabolic panel, and check all your B Vitamins as these are related to balance. VSG is an amazing surgery and typically does not result in deficiencies if you are eating a supplementing properly. Beyond that, a basic neurological exam from your PCP will show if there is anything alarming. Pay attention to your hydration and protein- but don't go nuts. I do not think anyone in normal climate needs to exceed 100 ounces a day. -
I tried shots,burned way too much. Cranberry and vodka. Or in my case, double shots of vodka. I logged every single calorie of my cranberry and vodka drinks in that night, and coming out around 500-600 calories in just alcohol alone was not one of my proudest moments. I had factored the alcohol in before hand and tweaked my diet accordingly but still. I have not had the urge to drink that much since. I suppose I had to get it out of my system. Kind of like my few bites of bread that I no longer crave either lol. As long as you don't make it a habit, one night if getting **** face wasted isn't going to kill you. If you start hardcore partying, you would face some serious problems. And yes, I had as much fun as I did before. Though the drunk feeling was a bit different. It's hard to explain. I can't drink as much as I could pre op though. I did keep up very well though, but looking back; other helped me drink my drinks, and I couldn't finish one. I instantly felt the alcohol though. Like I drank a few sips, and under 5 minutes later, I could feel it kicking in. 1 drink later and I was buzzing
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Feeeling a little frustrated
JennyBeth replied to Saraboo's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I would explain to her how hard it is sometimes to just walk away from food. It's not as easy as it seems and someone who has never struggled with their weight just doesn't get it. My husband is the same way he struggles to keep weight ON and he doesn't understand the power food can have. If he doesn't want to eat something he just doesn't. He isn't faced with the temptation even if it is sitting right in front of him. I've just come to understand that he will never understand my struggle with food. I guess it's the same as it is hard for me to understand alcoholism because I have never had an issue turning down a drink-it just doesn't have the same appeal to me. Food addiction is real just like any other addiction. -
Can You Fail With The Sleeve?
ARenee99 commented on joatsaint's blog entry in Gastric Sleeve Surgery - An Unexpected Journey
I was having trouble with the idea of having surgery. I then started to think about food as an addiction. I asked myself whether or not a drug addict or an alcoholic who had the option to have surgery would do it, and whether or not their choice to do so would be frowned upon. This helped me with my decision to get the sleeve. This is a GREAT post. Thanks! -
To Tell or not To Tell my surgeon what went on tonight at support meeting-please advise
donna12 replied to donna12's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Oh no, by not means do I feel I'm right or she's wrong, I'm just confused more than anything as I've read, been told so many different things that I do not know what to eat or drink at this point in my journey 8 mos out. As far as alcohol I don't drink so that is out for me. And I can assure you I will not make a big deal out of this as I don't like to cause friction between people or hurt others. I will simply talk to my surgeon tomorrow and clarify what I can and cannot eat and drink and if he asks why I'm asking then if I feel compelled or obligated at the time to say something I will as he needs to know because his medical practice depends on his success of his fellow employees and patients. Thanks for your comments. -
My surgery was monday!
joatsaint replied to cl0498's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Congrats on your sleeve. You might switch from Protein Water to something without the protein, just to see if the problem goes away. When I first got home, I was eating sugar free Jell-O and sugar free popsicles and getting lots of cramps and bubbles in my stomach. I didn't realize it, but my new stomach did not like the sucralose or the sugar alcohols. So your new stomach may not be ready for that kind of protein yet. -
I am still covered in lovenox bruises and I did my last shot a week ago lol. Some hurt, some didn't and some bled, some didn't. It was definitely frustrating. I agree with the recommendation to wait a minute after you use the alcohol wipe to avoid stinging. Also, I think that the harder/long you pinch before injecting the less pain/chance of bleeding there is. That seemed to help me atleast.
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I had to do 12 days of them. Im pretty tough but was glad when they were done! Make sure alcohol is dry before doing the injection. I found that doing them low and out to the sides stung the least. Aim toward center of the body. And yes, alternate sides. I also avoided stretch marks where skin seemed thinner. It is not pleasant, but just one of our things that must be done. Power through it and move on! It will be over before you know it!
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To Tell or not To Tell my surgeon what went on tonight at support meeting-please advise
parisshel replied to donna12's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
As WLS gets more and more democratized, a certain type of patient will have access to it. Prior to its large-scale availability, the type of patient who would undergo the procedure was willing to do whatever it took to succeed. He/she was knew his/her life was at stake. Now, with WLS criteria being lowered, and more insurance companies covering it, or loans being made available to cover it, the patient base is much much larger. And with that, you get some people who slip through the pre-op psych evaluations...or don't even have to get a pre-op psych eval. So you get people like you report here...people who really don't have the mindset that is necessary and fundamental to success with the lapband (or sleeve, or bypass). People who will game the tool. (This is analogous to people who lose weight with something like Weight Watchers, but take all their points in chocolate, alcohol or other not-healthy foods. They may make it to goal, but they won't stay there long.) These are the people who skew the success rate statistics due to their non-compliance with post-op rules. It's a shame but it will become more prevalent as the procedures become democratized and normalized and available to a wider market. I would definitely speak up because misinformation is being diffused by this person, and that misinformation is harmful not only for the person hearing it (who won't question it, as you did), but also for the success rate of the band in general. The person delivering that information needs to be trained correctly, so the practice who is employing her should know about this. Ultimately it does no good for the practice if their patients don't succeed with the band, so they will want to hear your feedback. -
Im not loosing any weight after VSG surgery
No game replied to sherytuta's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
As a generality, the sleeve gastrectomy diet plans are high in protein while low in calories, fats and carbohydrates. • The average calorie allowance for the sleeve gastrectomy ranges from 800 to 1200 calories per day. Foods that will need to be decreased in your diet include high sugar foods, high carbohydrate foods (including bread and pasta), fats (such as butter), fatty meats, fried foods, whole milk products, ice cream, high calorie beverages (including regular soda and alcoholic beverages). -
For all the nurses, doctors, and medical students!
Misty_eyes replied to Puja's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hi Puja, I'm a nurse in the ICu in a teaching hospital and residents carry water bottle, coke, coffee, red bull, fluids (you name it-except alcohol I hope) all the time... They leave their lunch boxes in the breakroom, store food in the fridge, eat and drink all the time, so it shouldn't be an issue for you I hope. Good luck on your residency and cheers to fluids! -
Alcohol consumption.. Beware!
iegal replied to EricaVSGJourney's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Okay - if you want to drink most surgeons recommend avoiding until you hit goal or minimum of 3 months. Saying this - "Drinking alcohol after a bariatric procedure is not recommended because alcohol will take longer to metabolize in the patient's body; therefore serum levels of alcohol will rise more quickly and will be maintained longer in a bariatric patient. I still warn them that they stand the risk of getting drunk with small amounts of alcohol and may take longer to become sober". Personally, I was a light weight before and am a super light weight now. One drink and I don't drive, at all. Not passing any judgement. As Erica said, be careful if you choose to drink. PS - Erica you look amazing! -
Alcohol consumption.. Beware!
lessofmeismore replied to EricaVSGJourney's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Just drink tiny sips spaced apart I can't handle alcohol now It causes me to get very dizzy -
Alcohol consumption.. Beware!
Imjustmee replied to EricaVSGJourney's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
The alcohol convos always get heated. -
Alcohol consumption.. Beware!
5kidzandmarried replied to EricaVSGJourney's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
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Alcohol consumption.. Beware!
EricaVSGJourney replied to EricaVSGJourney's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Thanks all! I'm about 10 months post op & 135-140 lbs. I've had no problem with 2 glasses of wine (other than the buzz), but I don't think I've had more than 1-2 hard alcohol drinks since surgery, so last Sat was a first. I think a large part of it was I went into the evening dehydrated. So the alcohol just made it worse. I'm much much better today. Stomach's still a bit angry, but very much on the mend. Be careful y'all -- we don't live in the same body we used to!! -
Atkins bars.... (make my tummy rumbly)
Holly Dolly replied to marfar7's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
It's definitely the sugar alcohol! I have to limit myself on protein bars now. I know some of the Quest Bars do not have it. GNC carries them and also you can find them online. -
Atkins bars.... (make my tummy rumbly)
DELETE THIS ACCOUNT! replied to marfar7's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
I love the Atkins bars but they make me super gassy. It's probably the sugar alcohol that's upsetting your stomach. -
Who is scheduled for Jan 8th? I'm getting nervous
2013newme replied to 2013isit's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
so - I had my labs done at 4 weeks post op - my pcp told me that my ALT and AST (liver) were high - I freaked a bit - only because pre-op, I did my fair share of drinking (just sayin' - I like wine :-))...anyway - sent the labs over to my bariatric docs...they said not to worry because it is common for rapid weight loss to put a strain on your liver - and it is a big reason they say not to drink alcohol during this post-op time - drinking is yet another strain on your liver - and with our weight loss - it's too much... thought I would share in case you see the same things with your labs..... on a side note, I have had a 1/2 glass of wine since surgery (over an hour period of time), and it was not a fun night in the bathroom let's just say... so I'm glad that happened to me so I'm not tempted right now to sneak a glass or so every once in a while... think I'll let my liver rest for now :-) -
The beef broth and protein shakes are for the pre-op diet and the 1st week post op. Some people continue to drink the protein shakes to get in the recommended daily protein. I rarely drink the shakes after the 2nd week post-op. I moved onto creamy soups and and a lot of chicken run through my food processor until very very finely chopped. I believe anyone that has 85% of their stomach removed will lose weight. You can't help but lose, if you are limited to 4oz of food every few hours. Now the big question is, where is your hunger coming from? Only you can figure that part out. Is it from emotional eating, boredome, stress, or is it because you have hunger pangs caused by the hormone ghrelin? From my own experience, I knew that my hunger was real (even though I had eaten 2 hours earlier, I'd be hungry again). It wasn't until I talked to my surgeon that he told me that I had an excess of the hormone ghrelin (produced by the stomach). The bigger the stomach, the more of the hormone produced. The surgery stopped my hunger pangs. I have not had that nagging sense of hunger (other than my stomach growling) since surgery 7 weeks ago. And 4 or 5 oz of food keeps me satisfied, whereas before, I could eat 1 lb of steak and know I'd be raiding the fridge in 2 hours. And I don't have any cravings anymore for certain flavors. Whereas before, I'd think about something that would taste good and I couldn't get the thought out of my head until I ate it. Don't get me wrong, you can sabotage yourself after surgery. There are foods, called slider foods, that are calorie dense (ice cream, peanut butter) that pass through the stomach quickly, so it's possible to eat more. And it is possible to just graze all day on snacks that are high in calories. The sleeve gave me the control over my eating that I needed. I really think of it as an addiction that you can't quit and never touch again. Other addictions can be quit and never touched again. But what if a heroine addict, smoker or alcoholic knew they had to take some every day or their body would die? What if they had 75 TV channels that ran commericals for cigarrets every 10 minutes during their favorite programs? Or had reality programs (like the best places to pig out or the food challenges) devoted to the best places to get their fix and showed people taking drugs and loving it? Could they just reduce the amount they took? Ok, rant over. :-)
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My port incision is infected :(
Cooper123 replied to Brandy Hunter-Lee's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Mine got infected too. No big deal, my doctor made a small incision and drained the puss. Antibiotics for a week and cleaning the wound daily with peroxide and alcohol. It healed just fine. Good luck Brandy. -
first month of pre op diet
iverina replied to iverina's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Well i am just doing a healthier diet. No soda or sugar drinks, no alcohol, five to nine servings of fruits and veggies. No simple carbs, high Protein, Breakfast everyday. Limit dairy. It's been pretty doable. I'm also going to the gym 2_3 times a week and wearing my bodymedia arm band -
I developed a fondness for herbal teas postOp that lasted more than 6 months. It wasn't 'not being able' to drink coffee, I just didn't care for it at the time. Eventually I returned to coffee and have long been a "two morning mugs" consumer. Re: carbonation that was another complex question no one could really answer when I had my own surgery. It was a couple years before I ventured into trying sparkling Water. At that time I had read the effects of leaving it stand a while in a pottery cup, as there was some kind of inter action with the minerals in the glaze hastening the release of CO2 from the saturation point. It seemed to work fine for me. Over time I eventually got to where I can now drink a can of LaCroix as a refreshing treat, especially after home chores. Having been an avid beer drinker for over 30 years, when I abandoned that overnight, I rather missed the fizz. As a pleasant trade-off, I developed a smattering of appreciation for different kinds of sparkling water from around the world. In the realm of non-alcohol and non-soda survivors, I cheerfully advocate exploration of the various products IF your particular Band doc approves.
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I didn't really jave a drink till i was 6 months out. I think for everyone alcohol works differently you have to see what works for you. I found vodka, with water and lots of fresh lime wedges suits me best. Theres no carbonated drink added so you dont suffer from gas though luckily at 1 yr out if i choose to i can pretty much consume anything in moderation
