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Post - Op - Day 8
CoreyCan commented on joatsaint's blog entry in Gastric Sleeve Surgery - An Unexpected Journey
I'm also 8 days out and have been trying different things too. Protein shakes have been hard to choke down so I started trying some soft foods (before my NUT's time) just to get my protein in and I've tolerated almost everything (except chicken as well). I have yet to have a full feeling, not sure I can actually feel my stomach. I don't do anything SF because it has the sugar alcohol in it and it does cause me stomach pains. I quick smoking, gave up my "occasional" glass of wine (or two), and can't eat...yes I'm really pleasant these days...hardly. -
Is Sleeving the easy way out?
HoosierGirl replied to bikermike5094's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Having the sleeve is easy like having a mastectomy is the easy way out of breast cancer or not drinking is the cure for alcoholism. The sleeve is simply a surgery...it's only one part of curing obesity. -
My confession. I fell of the wagon
ProudGrammy replied to O.T.R. sleever's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
O.T.R. hey guy "confession" - good for the soul??? I think so i know you knew you had to stop the overeating and all - but if it was so easy to do that , none of us would be here i think a slip like you had is inevidable for all/most of us sleevers we're like those "recovered" alcoholics - that always must say "i am an alcoholic", regardless if their better - they will always for considered an alcoholic well..........I'm a food addict - don't know if i feel better admitting that - but what i said it the truth if you/us don't admit we have a problem - how can we "fix" it????? i know/think it helps to speak about what you/me/us "did" you feel more accountable - you might not feel better immediately about admitting your goof , but it does help me for me its like getting a weight off my shoulder fessing up - even if its only "me" giving myself a good talking to when i "put it out there" its like i am making it official to myself/or you guys i now have told the world - so i go ahead and get back on that wagon if i don't get back to my new normal ways, i'm always afraid that one of you guys will kick me in the a sssss if i fall again I won't mention any names - this is just between laura-ven and myself!!!!oooops course a good kick in the butttt is never a bad thing you just gotta look harder now to find my buttttt don't be too hard on yourself - you don't deserve to beat yourself up anymore we'll talk next month at the "whats best" meeting!!!! i'm bringing an extra lrge Water bottle with your name on it!!! take care you are back on the road of success with your best friend and mine - The Amazing Sleeve -
Addiction is awful. My alcoholic parents quit that, then quit smoking when my mother had cancer. I admired them so much for overcoming that. Sometimes medication can help with addiction, so hopefully if the therapist sees you maybe that would help restrain the beast. Know that this beast is NOT the true you. You could try naming the 'beast', as Squeeky mentioned, sometimes separating out that part of you could help you and your family. Remembering you in my thoughts.
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my girlfriend drinks wine quite often and she is 6 months out. Just be aware that you will get loopy faster she said. I know someone who is 11 weeks out and she will not risk it for a few more months since alcohol is an irritant
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thanks.. good luck to you to. Bunnydee.... Also, are you allowed to drink alcohol after everything is healed?
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No doubt, it's very difficult. Smoking, food or alcohol act the same--they make us weaker in the end. Think beyond the moment at hand and imagine what you will feel like if you don't give in to the temptation....possibly how will you feel if you do give in to the temptation? Know that you are stronger than any temptation. Harder said than done....but possible.
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By the way, I do not count fiber and sugar alcohols in my total daily carbs.
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In the beginning of Aprill I stopped smoking but started chewing the nicotine gum.I did fantastic while on the gum with not smoking. But the gum gave me extremely severe gastritis.I started refluxing like crazy and had to stop using the gum.Now this is where my challenge started.One must never ever underestimate the power of an addiction.I have gained 6 pounds in the last month.Yes,boys and girls,all of the buffer weight I allow myself is gone,just like that. What is worse I am eating like I have never had the sleeve.Dont ask me how.I just can.I am never uncomfortable.Never feel like I over eat.I think I just pace myself very nicely and keep eating all day long. IT IS ABSOLUTELY CRAZY TO FEEL THIS OUT OF CONTROL AGAIN. My very worried friend brought me the number of a therapist who works with eating disorders and I am going to go and see her.It feels like before the sleeve when I just couldnt stop.I even eat chocolate,which doesnt taste particularly nice to me.BUT I HAVENT HAD ANY NICOTINE (since stopping the gum) in 4 days now.I ama super b***h,have fired my lazy housekeeper,put my kid on a bus instead of a taxi (she refuses to keep a budget) and gave the little one a permanent tv ban during the week.Everyone hates me but feeling like a maniac at least makes me a little more assertive than usual. But this is sooooo hard.I have a huge oral fixation.My life feels empty and sad when Im not able to get a high from something I stuff into my mouth,all the time.Thank goodness I sorted the alcohol thing out with myself as this would have been the perfect crutch now if I didnt make the choice to never drink to much or too often. Anyhow,this is to warn people.Get into that healthy life style.Exercise.See the shrink,deal with your issues or they will deal with you,like mine are now. I am back on my chicken and am not gaining weight anymore.The evenings are just still a challenge as this is when I want to really smoke.I also need to turf this chocolate ganash that I have in the fridge and I will be ok. My aim is to lose this weight in 2 weeks but I will tell this blog when the 2 weeks starts.My imediate goal is to just get over the smoke thing and stay quit.Boy I sometimes just want to say whatever and have a smoke but I know is is just practicing saying no to myself.Something I am not very good at and the reason I got so fat in the first place. So,no!I will not gain more.No,I will not smoke again!No,I will not eat that chocolate (well,maybe a little...lol.)
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Hello everyone I have been lurking around reading multiple post that have been EXTREMELY insightful. I have started taking notes in order to make sure I don't forget anything. I don't have a date for my sleeve as of yet but I am hoping around July or August. I CANT WAIT !!!! I am already buying clothes a lil to snug and calling them my TRANSFORMATION OUTFITS.......(yea I am a shopaholic).......... My biggest fear is the sagging loose skin that alot of people speak of. My doctor told me that it is a 50 -50 chance of having or not having it. I would hate to go this transformation and be unhappy with the end results because of my loose skin........ I have been reading a lot about hair loss and that doesn't worry me that much cause I am a true certified WIGGY !!! I was considering getting micros but after reading about the possible hair loss issues I may just stick with my wigs to avoid any other stress to my hair. I have started dabbling in drinking some protein shakes and still haven't found none that I really like. My nutritionist suggested EAS protein shakes and they are ok but I still be hungry afterwards. I thought I was doing good by drinking those Special K shakes but nutritionist nipped those in the bud real quick.( lol they were good too) I would love to know if there are any people in the Columbia SC area on here that i could buddy up with. Last question or issue for now.....I am a very social person that often go out and was wondering is drinking alcohol totally 100% off limits with the sleeve ???
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April 2013 Post-Op Group
MaryMitchell replied to Wendilou's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Vanna - I don't think some people will ever understand the reasons that made this surgery a necessity in our lives. These folks also probably think that if you have a drug or alcohol addiction that you are week and just need to get your shit together. Forget about them, they are not you and they are not the ones that support you in helping you to make a positive change in your life. We will run across these yahoos throughout our lives and we just need to let them be crazy all by themselves! Stand strong. BTW- I'm siting on exam table waiting for staples to come out! I am down 30 lbs from SW! Vanna - you have lots of support from our Losers Bench! -
discomfort when swallowing
Baba Wawa replied to mothering9's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
If you're not on solids and experiencing pain and difficulty swallowing you need to discuss this with your doctor. Personally, I would go back to liquids for a day or two and try again. Typically whenever I go in to the band doctor, I'm asked a series of questions: 1) do you find yourself looking for food during the day? 2) how much food are you eating at each meal? Is it dense Protein with veggies? 3) are you satisfied for at least 4 hours? 4) are you having any difficulty when eating, pain or other problems. 5) are you drinking 64 oz + per day, not drinking with meals or for 30 min after? 6) are you exercising? 7) are you consuming any alcohol? 8) what medications are you taking, including OTC, supplements and Rx? I don't know why 8 turned into an emoticon, lol! This helps them to determine if you need a fill or perhaps in the case of #4, if you are having a problem that a fill will only make worse. Some people go a year or more without a fill and do very well. Please post next week after your dr appt and let us know how it went -
My Suggestion-Stop The Obsessing. Rules Are Meant To Be Broken
No game replied to NJSleeveboy's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
1. Pussification pussification(noun): the state in which a society becomes less and less tough. This noun's originator is the famous comedian George Carlin. "We are undergoing a pussification of our entire society." 2. Pussification The state of mind that a man undergoes when he has lost any control that he ever had in a relationship with a woman. The point in a relationship where a man becomes his mates personal b***h. Once pussification takes over the man will spend every waking minute thinking of ways to please his mate. "Hey Mike, wanna grab a beer after work?" "Thanks guys, but I can't, I have to hurry home to give the cat a bath so that I'll have time to watch Seventh Heaven with the princess" "Holy ****!! Mike!! You've got pussification. We need to get alcohol in you right away" 3. Pussification Taken from a George Carlin bit, referring to the reversal of roles and attitudes specifically of the American male due to being overly "politically correct." Using soft language and avoiding confrontation and critisizm has resulted in the complete pussification of the american youth, as manifested by "emo", and "cyberbullying" emo pussification wuss sissy *****-whipped 4. Pussification To become a *****, wus, coward, whimp etc. We are witnesses to the mass pussification of males as a result of the fload of female hormones in our water from the consumer use of the birth control pill. Draft Dogers? That's pussification straight up! -
In the early stages of pregnancy there is not a lot of weight gain. Most women can stay in normal clothes until after the first trimester. If the pregnancy tests are coming out negative, you are probably not pregnant . Worrying about being pregnant can make your period not come. I would advise just relaxing and waiting to see if you get your period in the next week or two. During that time don't drink alcohol or smoke. If you are pregnant, the waiting doesn't hurt anything. You may be stalled in weight loss because you are in a happy relationship. When I met my husband (preband) I gained 20 pounds in a very short time. And absolutely use some form of birth control. Babies need to be planned.
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I don't think there are a lot more people with regrets. I think they are speaking up more because one got the nerve to really speak out. And we don't hear from the ones that have regained all their weight or never got remotely close to goal and quit coming here. IMO, those with regrets should speak out so others have an idea of issues they may need to work on pre-op or post-op. When I first starting reading VST, Tiffy-kins was on here all the time. She had a terrible post-op experience, with a leak and having to get rid of her gallbladder, but I saw she got over those things and I thought, well if that happens to me, I can get over it too. I also read threads about people not getting to goal and those that did get to goal so I knew what I had to do if I wanted to get to goal and stay there. And I read the threads about people who became addicted to alcohol or drugs. After I started drinking again when I got close to goal, I set a limit on how often and how much I drink to avoid those issues. I think we all have issues with food or we wouldn't have got overweight to start with. And it's important to work on those issues because no matter how tight the restriction, at some point in the future, enough capacity for weight regain will return. Of course, that's just my opinion. Your mileage may vary. Lynda
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All Dr. Garcia's Sleeved Patients, Please Give Your Weightloss Amounts And Timeframes.....thanks!
bigdirk replied to Diamondeyed's topic in Mexico & Self-Pay Weight Loss Surgery
I'm down 73 pounds since November 15 ,2012 I eat anything now steak chicken pasta everything When I came home from Mexico I did jello and pudding for 2 weeks After 14 days I started eating chicken in small portions and liquid Breakfast and lunch I did 30 gram protein shakes and ate protein chicken shrimp white fish for supper I have eliminated all pop alcohol and wasted calorie food out of my life. I was in a 40 inch waste and now down to a 32 inch waist with a belt XXL shirt down to a medium/ large depending on the shirt -
Seltzer water is anyone drinking any?
blessings replied to blessings's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Thank you for telling me I will wait until at least 4 months I don't drink alcohol so water is all I'm having but u get your drink on for me. Lol -
I had a little trouble figuring out correct forum to place this topic so it goes here in "Rant and Raves" because it is a bit of a rave. My MIL was an RN before retirement and likes to keep up on medical studies. She and I were talking about (WLS (VSG) last night and she said WLS (VSG) changes the DNA. My first response was "what....?" and then " how is this possible?" She explained that there was a medical study done in Iceland where they said WLS (VSG) changes the genetic coding in a person's DNA such that the genes responsible for a predisposition of obesity are no longer present in future generations (read: children). Wow, that is powerful! Effectively it means you can expect to have beautiful and athletic children if WLS (VSG) does the same for you. All the genetic precursors like ineffective BMR are effectively reprogrammed. Now I am wondering if the results of this medical study also apply to alcohol, drugs and other addictive predispositions that are passed through DNA.
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Laura, Thanks so much for this thought-provoking thread. I am a food addict with alcohol/drug/food addiction family genetics and a lifetime of addictive "experience". The first five weeks after VSG surgery were heaven (no desire to eat at all!), but now my stomach has healed, the honeymoon is over, and I am grappling with my new reality. The sleeve is a great tool ...but the addiction battle continues and it is hitting me pretty hard right now. I want to be CURED, dammit!! It really helps to know that others are struggling and succeeding. I have this little voice that is whispering "You can't do this...you will fail". Thanks to all the VSTers who are helping me to believe that I don't have to be perfect, that I can pick myself up and keep going forward, and that I can change.
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Did you have second thoughts?
buplee replied to ladylaura's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I said the same thing on another thread where someone was regretting surgery because she could not head huge amounts of unhealthy food. Most of us had to go through one visit to a psychologist to get our psych clearance. Personally I do not feel that is sufficient. I went through several months to deal with my guilt and feelings of failure for making the decision to have surgery and dealing with food issues. I come from a southern family and my wife's family is from the Caribbean, and both cultures cultures have a heavy focus on food. I needed to learn that going out socially does not mean I have to consume huge amounts of good and alcohol to be social. I also did not have to clean my plate to show I enjoyed the meal as I had been taught growing up. I would highly suggest anyone serious about the surgery go through a few sessions of therapy to come to grips with our unhealthy obsession with food. -
My surgery was jan 28 and I'm scared to drink alcohol, I'm waiting until At least 6 months. Enjoy your drink if you decide to have one!
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I'm meeting up with some of my girlfriends that I haven't seen since college tomorrow. I had surgery on Jan 24th. Can I have a drink?
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Congrats on your surgery and I wish you the most success! Are they thinking fibrosis with Non Alcoholic Fatty Liver Diesease? I have pretty severe fatty liver and they are going to biopsy mine when they are in there. Weightloss and low-no carb with moderate fat and excercise help improve it a lot.
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I had my first drink at 6 months. Doctor and NUT recommended we wait 3 months and to ease into it. Alcohol may affect you differently as a post op. It might be a good idea to drink on occasion or in moderation if you are going to as calories add up fast. For me, 1-2 drinks a month, mainly as a social thing.
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VSG Urban Legends
Smiley_Girl replied to AmandaRaeLeo's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
My doctor said to wait 6 months before I had any alcohol. But advised against it totally because of the empty calories and the effect on the liver.
