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Old Habits Die Hard...
MsVictorious1020 replied to MsVictorious1020's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hello! And Amen. That's exactly my point! If you want to sabotage yourself...fine! But don't come on a "support" forum telling others what they can get away with bc you decided to do what you wanted. After all we are all food addicts of some sorts and this is a disease. Most of the battle is mental. I equate this to a drug/alcohol addiction support group. If one of the substance abuse patients said openly in a group I used and I'm fine so you should too they would be kicked straight out! So cheating stages or instructions shouldn't be encouraged here either. And that doesn't make me holier than thou. That makes me self aware of my challenges and addiction. It means I'm committed to my recovery and lifelong battle with this horrible disease. -
The thought of eating fast food makes me sick.
Cazzy replied to WrenBird's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
I totally agree Lee, losing the amount of weight we did required a massive amount of self denial and re-adjustment to eating. I do understand that fast food has become such an issue that its almost up there addiction wise to drugs/alcohol/cigs etc. I am in maintenance mode so i do allow myself the odd moment of home cooked treats like a fruit cake, or home baked oat Cookies but i control the calories and the ingredients, it is mainly made only with wholewheat flour, there is no fat added or extra sugar so i dont feel food like this is addictive or harmful, i make any recipe i cook as healthy as possible, it seems to work for me and taste much better than anything i can buy in the shops. -
January 2013 Post Op
ready2smile replied to ready2smile's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
You started out lower than me Marla. I've noticed I have to fight for each oz and it's getting harder and harder. I worry I will stop losing, but I'm not giving up. I was on vacation for 4 days, didn't track and I know I didn't get in half my protein or water, but I can tell that even though I drank alcohol, (which wasn't a good idea) I ate less food, smaller portions, and made healthier choices than I did last year there. That's my NSV and now i'm back to tracking and exercising, upping my protein and water. -
I'm almost 15 months out and had 85% of mine removed. The only way to stop physically craving those bad foods is to detox. Just like with drugs or alcohol. You have to rebalance your blood sugar by eliminating all those foods that either contain sugar or transform into sugar. That is really a big factor in why we lose hunger in the beginning, not just that our stomachs have been severely reduced inside. The mental issue is a different story. We have a doctor who comes to our monthly support group who is the most knowledgable person on the subject of weight I have ever met. He told us how researchers have used functional MRI brain scans to show how some foods, even just the smell or thought of them, lights up the same neuro-pathways as heroin does in an addict. That's astounding! I always knew food was addictive, now fortunately there is scientific proof! Obesity is an addiction and in my opinion, you will have far greater success if you treat it like one. The psychological aspect is so important! http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/04/04/food.drug.addiction.same.to.brain/index.html
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Jealous! I'm 4 weeks out and my surgeon's instructions say no alcohol for a year...maybe next summer!
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Old Habits Die Hard...
No game replied to MsVictorious1020's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
We are all of us fat, super fat I might add. How did we get here? Because we became powerless over food and our addiction to it. I will say I followed my doctors orders. But I am not surprised when I see someone come here looking for an "enabler". As an alcoholic will look for another drink or a drug addict will look for another fix even if it can mean the chance of death. A food addict will look for a way to get a meal. Some do better than others. But I know all of us go into it wanting to do better. I will not judge I will listen, understand and try to guide. If the person truly does not want what I have to offer, then at least I tried. I will then move on to the next person that does. I know it can get frustrating, there are times when I just want to tell someone "ok you know best, go ahead and eat that pizza at one week out" But really I have my own recovery to deal with and I can't help save someone who's not ready to save themselves. -
3 years out, need too loose some again......but how?
bookleen replied to johan22's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
Hi tdriver, Welcome back. I am almost in the same position as you....only a little worse. I never got all the way to goal and then gained approx 7 lbs during the last 18 months. I have 20 lbs to lose, and hope to do this for Christmas 2013. I am hoping to tidy up my act and follow the rules properly and hopefully that will do the trick. I am hoping not to go back to the liquid phase but rather drop some careless habits, e.g. cut out alcohol, never drink within an hour of eating, and take a protein drink every day. My diet is otherwise healthy and I am hoping these small changes will make a difference. I will give these a try for 1 month to see. Best of luck with what you decide to do. Bookleen -
According to your DOS, you are about 2.5 months post op. How does the carbonation in the beer feel to your sleeve? Does it go down ok or do you get tight in the chest? I had my first post op white wine at month 6. today I can enjoy a long island, but only one. i have a drink about every 2-3 weeks when out with my brother or friends. As long as you are following the alcohol guideline of your doctor and it is not causing you pain, then kudos for you, especially if you are in part of the country where it is sizzling hot today. Not here in Seattle though. 50 f and drizzly. It was actually cold outside yesterday and I had to wear a heavy coat!
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Dating and letting them know you had surgery
CharmingTortoise replied to TapSnap's topic in Singles Forum
I guess I think of the surgery as a huge change in my life. Something that I'm sharing with family and close friends. I can't imagine not telling someone that I'm dating. When to tell them, I'm not really sure. I do wonder though if the guys she was dating were really shallow and were worried that she was going to gain weight or if it would just be too much baggage to deal with? There's a whole game show called baggage about the junk we we carry from our past. We've all got it, when you bring it up is always a huge question. When do you tell them that you have a mental illness? When do you tell them that you've got an alcoholic mother? When do you tell them that you've been divorced or have children? I think it's really all a matter of your own preferences. Tell your friend to keep trying. A respectful and worthy man who will appreciate her is out there! -
food addiction is probably similar to other addictions like drugs or alcohol, etc. Look at the 12 steps in those programs. 1) I admit I am powerless over my eating and that my life has become unmanageable. 2) I came to believe that only a power greater than myself could restore me to sanity 3) Made a decision to turn my will and my life over to the care of God as I understood Him. When you truly embrace each step, you open yourself up to change -- you are willing to change. Step 2 says you can't do it alone, you need help from a higher power. Step 3 says you accept that you need help and are willing to get it. It seems to me that you need to fix the emotional/ mental problem not just the physical. I've been to 12 step meetings and they really helped me get rid of my addiction. Being around people who have the same issues and are getting better makes all the difference in the world. If you're truly ready to start a new chapter, you must be willing to go to any lengths to stay "sober." But don't try to do it alone.
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I just threw a napkin at my husband :(
serenity1959 replied to No game's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Maybe you can explain that to him, for many of us, the wrong foods are an addiction. And one of the hardest things about problems with food is that we can't just not eat. With cigarettes, alcohol, cocaine, what you do is completely eliminate the substance. We cannot do that. -
Oh and atkins chocolate chip granola. 17 grams of protein. One gram of sugar. They DO have 9 grams of sugar alcohol though. It's not horrible, but if you're super sensitive...It could have an impact I guess.
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Anyone aware of any good Protein bars? I checked over 20 at my local grocery store and all of them had a ton of sugar or sugar alcohols! HW 283. SW265. SD 3/22/13! CW 244.
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Hi! My surgery is scheduled for Monday, May 6th. This pre-op diet is getting on my nerves, I'm irritable at times, but, I'm making it. When people ask me if I'm excited...my reply usually is " is an alcoholic excited to go into DETOX?" I'm anxious. I'm confused (about trying to cook for a family and then myself) I'm nervous I'm scared BUT, I have noticed (after being on preop diet for 6 days) that my clothes are looser on me, and that gives me a feeling of affirmation that I am doing the right thing. I worry, because I have a friend that didn't really loose much weight after hers, and now weighs more than before her surgery. That sums it up. I'm very thankful to have found this site, and appreciate hearing from people exactly in the same place as me.
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Confused. Can we or cant we..?
kimbernada replied to mrsreyes's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
The only restriction that my surgeon gave me was drinking alcohol. He told me of one gal who actually passed out after having only one drink. Considering that I am not even a social drinker, as I probably only have one or two drinks a year, I decided to just stay away from it. It hits me hard pre-surgery, so I'm not sure what post-surgery would be like. (Although I used to be able to drink a lot in my early 20s.) Otherwise, caffeine is okay, diet soda is okay. I prefer to drink that "Ice" brand of fizzy Water as it isn't quite as carbonated as a diet soda. Still fizzy, but not too much. Enough to clean out the pipes in the morning. I can't take big gulps of anything fizzy as it makes me just want to burp it all up. -
Confused. Can we or cant we..?
johnlatte replied to mrsreyes's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
A lot of the "rules" have to do with certain foods that are a) really unhealthy or b)can be trigger foods for other bad eating habits. Realistically, there isn't really a lot of foods that you "can't" eat. Carbonation can make you uncomfortable, high fat food and high sugar foods might make you nauseous. Alcohol and coffee are typically not great on a perfectly intact stomach, so a surgically modified stomach has more chances for additional problems, plus all the empty calories. All these things do not happen to everyone and a lot of these so called rules apply to those that had bypass surgery and may not necessarily lend themselves to the sleeve surgery. I really don't have a problem eating or drinking anything. However, I have made a commitment to be as healthy as possible, using the surgery as a tool to restrict my caloric intake. I might have a different mindset than a lot of people that feel that eliminating certain foods or drink, is denying things in their life that they must have. You are going to get a lot of answers to this question, just like you will get a lot of answers about diet, exercise, activities post op etc. Every Dr. seems to follow a different playbook. Really there seems to be no real fast rules to anything post op. My suggestion is to follow faithfully what you Dr and nutritionist plan out for you. That way you have the proper support system in place and they can answer your questions in a way that makes the best sense for you particular situation. -
I've been reading and reading.. Trying to get as much info as I can. I am still pre op I'm hoping for a surgery date in june or July. I've read where some patients and surgeons say you CAN'T have certain things ever again... Like soda, alcohol, coffee, candy etc. then some say it is fine just in small amounts. I am willing to give all of these things up, I'm just trying to get a straight forward answer. Sent from my iPhone using VST
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Bananas, breads, and sugar alcohols anything over 3g will give me what my Dr calls mini dumping I get light headed, heart racing, and shakes found this out 4 days after surgeru with certain popsicles
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Biggest regrets about getting the sleeve?
ainsworth1 replied to NewSetOfCurves's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
im 3 weeks post op.. im missing not chewing but thats all! i am not missing alcohol (which i thought i would!) im not missing chocolate.. my choc shake satisfies my need for that! i have just started pureed and thats difficult i want to eat the 2 tablespoons that i serve myself but i can only manage 1 at the moment, weight loss is good im 20lbs down in those 3 weeks! loving my sleeve so far! best of luck! -
At one time, I really enjoyed drinking beer. I mean I REALLY ENJOYED IT. It was a weekly, social thing. My life changed in the last few years and I don't do it much at all. Now, I got sleeved 4/12, and asked my dr about drinking alcohol. My birthday is next month and thought I might want a glass of wine. Per my dr, he said that was fine, but only wine. For me, beers are off limits because of the carbonation and empty calories. And I've seen first-hand someone trade food addiction for alcohol addiction, so I don't want to hit any hard liquors. Don't let alcohol questions keep you from making a decision that could really change your life in so any ways. If you have questions, go to seminar in your area to find out more. Good luck!
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Wow ok, Honestly you will be able to drink again but not for quite a while. Beer is one of the harder things to drink because of the carbonation... Now for the reality slap part. Food addiction and the way you drink now. I worry about the very real problem of "cross addiction" issues. Unfortunately a fair number of weight loss patients become alcoholics. If you are not one now becoming one is a very real possibility. I would say that a real deep look into this issue and perhaps counseling, before you take this step. Why trade one really bad thing for another.
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I'm a big dude myself. 6' 6" with a heaviest weight of 430. I never was a big drinker, but more of a big eater. People that have this surgery can still drink, but you have to have a lot less. And I would stay away from beer just because of the carbonation and the problems with the sleeve filling up with the gas. It's just one of those things. You have to stare down your demons and decide who's going to win. We all face this in some way or another. Give up the alcohol if possible. If not, then cut back a lot and ask the doctor how long until you can have some. I can't remember what mine said, but I think it was around 3 months postop.
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Alcohol is *ridiculously* high in calories. From a weight management (and health!) perspective, I'd drop it completely. Learn to socialize without drinking. I'd consider seeing a therapist, or joining AA for help and support.
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Would You Have Weight Loss Surgery Again?
xring3 replied to Alex Brecher's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
as I have also questioned my decision, the best we can do is work the program. As I spent 6 years working in a drug and alcohol treatment center, treating eating disorders is like any other addiction. Day at a time, go to meetings, surround yourself with like minded people. -
I am looking at it like this. Every pound I don't gain before surgery is a pound I don't have to lose after. I also got a Fitbit and I've been increasing my walking. I have cut out carbonated drinks and trying to limit alcohol to a couple glasses a week. Limiting coffee to one cup a day. Trying to get in as much Water as I can.
