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To count or not to count (calories)
BigSue replied to lizonaplane's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I've been tracking everything I eat in MyFitnessPal for over two years -- since about 5 months before my surgery. For me, this was key in changing my eating habits, both before and after surgery. I don't think it's counting calories, per se, that works, but the fact that it forces me to confront my food choices and get the most bang for the buck, calorie-wise. Constantly budgeting my calories has helped me to shift my food choices to low-calorie but satisfying foods. That's especially important now that I'm almost two years post-op and I can eat pretty decent portions (compared to the first several months post-op when I could only eat tiny quantities). If I weren't choosing low-calorie foods, I think I could easily get enough calories to start gaining the weight back. A lot of people swear by "intuitive eating," and if that works for you, great, but I don't see it working for me. I think my intuition had to be pretty out of whack to get me to 341 pounds. I think it's possible that I've changed my eating habits enough at this point that I could stop tracking and be ok, but I don't want to put that to the test. I eat mostly the same things over and over, so if I stick to that, even without tracking, I would probably stay within the same calorie range. I do have a hard time when traveling or eating at restaurants because it's difficult to guesstimate when someone else is preparing the food, but I very rarely eat at restaurants, so I try not to stress too much over the occasional meal that's not 100% accurate. I've also relaxed a little on weighing and measuring some things because I've gotten a good sense of portion sizes (e.g., half a small avocado is about 50 grams on average; 6 slices of thin-sliced turkey lunchmeat is about 75 grams), and some things are low enough in calories that it's not worth the trouble (e.g., I don't measure salad greens or cucumbers or tomatoes). I like Dr. Weiner's approach of "a pound of cure" (which involves eating at least a pound of vegetables every day) because focusing on eating a lot of vegetables helps me to fill up on foods that are nutritious but low in calories. Every week, I meal prep daily veggie trays (carrots, celery, cucumbers, grape tomatoes, and peppers), and that's my main snack for the day. I also add cauliflower rice to a lot of meals to make them more filling without adding a lot of calories. -
I have to loose more weight to have knee replacement Sent from my octopus using BariatricPal mobile app
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I have arthritis in my left knees anxiety depression and over eating disorder I need to loose more weight to have my left knee operated on Sent from my octopus using BariatricPal mobile app
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Decide to do WLS only to get possible breast cancer diagnosis?
GetMyLifeBack2022 posted a topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Hello, First time poster. I live with health anxiety and I worry all the time that I am going to get some kind of significant weight-related health condition. I decided to look in to weight loss surgery three weeks ago, found a doctor, got set up woth appointments next week. Then last week I had a mammogram that showed something suspicious, so then another mammogram and ultrasound and finally a biopsy on Friday. Perhaps it is nothing but googling the specific words in the ultrasound and mammogram report don’t sound great. I should get the results in the next two days. How ironic would it be to have something significant like this pop up immediately after I finally make the decision to change my health?! I’m so sad and mad. If this does turn out to be breast cancer then does that rule out weight loss surgery completely? Anyone have any knowledge or experience on that? I am trying to remain positive but emotionally I feel like I’ve ruined my life and officially missed the opportunity to get my weight under control and a healthy life back. Any words of advice or shared experiences are much appreciated. Thanks in advance. -
Absolutely what @summerseekerhas said. You can re-jig your intake and lose weight again if you go protein first at every meal and track *everything*. When you say 'body compensated' do you mean that you didn't like the weight you landed on after your surgery and found ways to eat around it? Or that that was your lowest weight and then even sticking to your programme you regained that much? And when you say 'but now I am up to...' are you saying that you regained that much whilst still being vigilant, or that you totally relaxed the rules? Sorry I'm very black and white - need more detail!!
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November Surgery Buddies!!!
Spinoza replied to Tristenhilpert97's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Honestly - having studied it scientifically as best I can, I think that stalls just happen randomly and then just end - also randomly. They're part of all significant weight loss journeys. Upping or downing: calories; protein; water; exercise (including type or intensity of exercise) might coincide with a renewed loss but it's not likely to be the cause. Keep doing what you're doing and you will keep losing weight until you're done. Yes, more slowly and then MUCH more slowly, as you approach goal. I've had the same calorie intake for the last 4 months, and more or less the same level of exercise. I'm losing approx 2lbs per week but not at all in a linear fashion. Average it all out, keep on keeping on, and you'll be fine. You'll lose until you stop losing. You have done amazingly well @DaisyAndSunshine -
My weight is also dropping slowly. I had my surgery on May 18 and did a 3-week pre-op diet before that. But I have only lost a total of around 32lbs in 7 weeks. I am not too disappointed though because I have an extremely stubborn body in terms of weight loss. In the past when I went on a diet, no matter how strict I was and how hard I exercised I would not lose weight AT ALL. So at least this slow pace is definitely better than nothing. I will take whatever speed weight loss I can get.
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So I’m in the beginning of week three and I have not lost any weight all week. I’m also constipated. I’m down a total of 28lbs since the preop liquid diet. I started at 249lbs and I’m now 221lbs. What are you taking for constipation? How long is the stall period?
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bariatric surgeons in Southeast Michigan
m5 replied to StrugglinginMI's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Yess!!! Dr Krauss at Royal Oak Beamont was my doctor....i highly recommend him and the weight loss clinic at troy, they are amazing! -
Weirdest None-Scale-Victory - I'll go first
Tripletsmom1971 replied to chiquitatummy's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I feel this also, not just medical staff. I too have always been very social, upbeat , well liked by most, despite the fact I was 333 pounds. Now that I’ve lost weight, I feel like ppl are ENGAGING with me SOOO MUCH MORE than before. Maybe they are curious about the weight loss, intrigue, maybe they legitimately don’t like ‘fat’ people, who knows, all we can do is BE HAPPY about our ‘new bodies’. We all know we have worked HARD to lose ever pound. No matter how people treat us, we can always be the leaders of the pack. Always be kind ❤️ -
Feeling irritable
summerseeker replied to mysticcrow's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I didnt know but I had it explained to me. Our hormones live in our fat cells. We are loosing weight rapidly and releasing all these hormones into our systems. I found it like the menopause or pregnancy all rolled into one. I cried so much and my ever caring husband got the full length of my tongue a few times when he was just trying to help. -
Weirdest None-Scale-Victory - I'll go first
STLoser replied to chiquitatummy's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
You're absolutely right. I AM a medical professional (a nurse, thought currently sahm), and I have seen it throughout my career. I've unfortunately been on the receiving end way too many times. I never understood this, because I always tried to treat all my patients with respect and listen to them and take them seriously no matter what. I've had so many doctors dismiss my health concerns just because of my weight. One time, we took our son to be evaluated for autism when he was younger, and THAT doctor harassed us about our weight. Wtf does OUR weight have to do with the possibility of our son (not overweight himself) having autism!? I was flabbergasted by that one. It is well known that many medical professionals discriminate against overweight people. As if thin people don't get the same diseases and problems! Sent from my Pixel 5a using BariatricPal mobile app -
Weirdest None-Scale-Victory - I'll go first
BigSue replied to chiquitatummy's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I've noticed something similar with medical professionals. When I went to the doctor as a fat person, the doctors, nurses, PAs, etc. were usually pretty aloof towards me and treated me like a number. I assumed it was because healthcare workers are intentionally detached and they're like that with all patients. Now that I'm no longer overweight, they are so much friendlier and more sympathetic. The nurses strike up conversations with me while they're taking my vitals. They are more concerned about symptoms, like, "Oh, you're not feeling well? You poor dear!" where I guess they used to be thinking, "Anything that's wrong is your fault because you're fat." It's no secret that medical professionals are biased against fat patients, and I avoided going to doctors because I knew that no matter what the problem was, the cause would be that I'm fat and the cure would be to lose weight (as though I didn't know and hadn't tried). I didn't expect it to be so blatant, though. -
Oh, you have been through the wars. None of this would be directly related to your surgery though except from being run down & recovering from a pretty major surgery. Plus you may have gone back to a demanding job too soon leaving you open to pick up a bug. It may have been a signal to slow down you were doing too much. Then your lowered immune system made you a target for the subsequent infections. A perfect storm. The vomiting after surgery is not uncommon because your tummy is so sensitive but becoming unwell with viruses & infections like you have is uncommon. You’ll slowly rebuild your immune system especially when you’re able to eat a little more & a broader more nutritious range of foods. In the meantime keep your vitamins up. Broken toes are awful. How can such a little part of you be so limiting. I did mine when I accidentally my kicked my vacuum. Half my foot was bruised & swollen for ages. Thank goodness I did it summer so I could still wear slides & sandals. Congratulations on your weight loss so far. Apart from you being unwell, you’re doing well. Take it easy & take time to fully recover.
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Weight goes up and down 2 weeks post op
Arabesque replied to mysticcrow's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
We all have natural fluctuations of a couple of pounds (mine is 1kg). You probably didn’t really notice them before because, if you’re like me, you rarely weighed yourself. I didn’t need to be reminded I was obese. They really mean nothing. They could be fluid, constipation, diarrhoea, just your body, etc. Your weight loss will never be constant. Your graph will zig zag up & down & have odd plateaus. As long as the trend is downwards you’re golden. Stalls are very common, @Crisscat. Frustrating I know, but almost every one of us experienced them. The first one (yes, first one) often occurs around week 3 & usually last 1-3 weeks. Think of them as your body taking a breath as it tries to get used to all the changes. Stick to your plan & you’ll start losing again. Oh, and all because the scales aren’t moving doesn’t mean your body is reducing in size. You may find your pants or skirts are a little loser. Take some measurements. -
November Surgery Buddies!!!
DaisyAndSunshine replied to Tristenhilpert97's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I am also in my 7th month mark and finished 6 months end of May. After scale moving for a month, it's back to stalling yet again 😩😆 Looks like my stalls will come on more frequently as I get closer to the goal. So nothing to worry as long as it keeps moving down. Still want to lose another 40. If not that, at least 30 more to feel comfortable in my shoes. I think I may need to increase my calories possibly since I am still hovering around 900ish. I am thinking to go 800ish again. Either that or it's gotta go above 1000 to 1100ish. But it's difficult to get that much food in. Sigh. It seems like I would have to eat all the time which I dislike. But I think I'll have to do it if lessening the calories doesn't work. I think stalls happen when body gets too comfortable with certain calories so I think upping is the key but I get petrified of increasing calories and stopping the weight loss. Anyhow, Let's see how far along I go. -
Weight goes up and down 2 weeks post op
Crisscat replied to mysticcrow's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I am beyond frustrated lol. I have not lost any weight since my initial 14 lbs I lost in 9 days after surgery, I am now 5.5 weeks post op and still nothing. I go back and forth between 2 lbs. Im up 2 lbs then down 2 lbs. I quit weighing because I was getting so mad about it. Its very discouraging. I usually only eat 3-4 teaspoons in one sitting and then I feel full. I only get between 500-700 calories per day and nothing not a thing. Im due for my next weigh in on June 20th. Rather than being excited about it I am in full dread mode. I am utterly dreading it. I have had 2 other weigh ins and nothing same weight every time. **disclosure** I am not able to exercise like most on here do because I have a right knee problem and I am pending a knee replacement so I cannot go on long walks. I can barely make walking around in Walmart after 30 mins -
Weight goes up and down 2 weeks post op
SleeverSk replied to mysticcrow's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
It's perfectly normal don't stress and try to stay off the scales,says she who weighs twice a day lol. If you are going to weigh yourself daily pick 1 day of the week that you record your weight my day was Wednesday. Oh take measurements monthly because sometimes the scales don't move but the inches do 😁 -
August Surgery Buddies!
I Am Enough! replied to I Am Enough!'s topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Fortunately, my insurance did not make me have to lose a ton of weight prior some like plans. But I'm working on losing as much as I can prior to the surgery with a low carb keto diet -
Weight goes up and down 2 weeks post op
ShoppGirl replied to mysticcrow's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Your weight can fluctuate by a couple pounds. Weighing in the same clothes (or lack thereof) and at the same time of day with an empty bladder will produce the closest weight but tiny fluctuations will still occur sometimes. -
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Weight goes up and down 2 weeks post op
liveaboard15 replied to mysticcrow's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
you are reaching your 3rd week stall... At this time you wont really loose any weight and you can gain a couple pounds... the stall last from a week to several weeks. mine lasted 2 weeks where i did not loose anything at all and gained 2lb -
Weight goes up and down 2 weeks post op
mysticcrow posted a topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I am 2 weeks almost 3 weeks post op and 2x now when I get on the scale I have gained 2 lbs from the day before. Super frustrating and I'm not sure why. I weigh myself first thing in the morning too. Is it water weight? I mean I eventually lose the weight again a day or two later but still. Sent from my SM-G970U using BariatricPal mobile app -
Surgery almost 6 years ago, Low weight was 201 (6'2, I looked liked a skeleton and hated it) body compensated and sat around 250, (which is a weight that I like). But now I am up to about 285. How do I get back on track, mentally I cannot get it together although I know what I should and need to do... I don't want to fail, I can't fail.
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Mental & Behavioral Change
emilygrace replied to ocdennise's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I hope your revision went well. I found the psychological aspect to be the absolute most important longterm. The restriction and appetite suppression wears off, but your traumas and maladaptive behaviors do not. I have always poo hooed therapy as a bunch of crap, but it was because I was not committed to it, or didn't have the right therapist. Once I found one with whom I had a great therapeutic relationship, I have laid it all out and finally been able to deal with my childhood issues (and I'm in my 40s). I highly recommend the book "The Body Keeps The Score" to explain physical issues and their relationship to mental issues. This has been transformational for me, and allowed me to eliminate binge eating and finally lose the weight I had regained after surgery. I am hopeful that I have found my solution. -
Insight/thoughts for someone considering sleeve surgery
emilygrace replied to Veebear's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
- Do it, you will only regret not doing it sooner - Do your research and be completely comfortable with your surgeon; make sure you ask what they will do and how they will manage complications - Get up and move around as soon as you can postop. It helps move the gas out of your system. Use a heat pack for the shoulder blade pain from trapped gas. - Don't worry about loose skin yet; deal with one step at a time. - Go to a psychologist or therapist. The mental reasons you overeat to the point of obesity are not helped by surgery. You have the aid of no appetite initially to lose weight, but once that restriction eases over time, it's just you again, with all the same issues and problems. See someone. Consider what led you to get where you are/were. I was never a believer in "therapy" and thought it was rather useless and self-indulgent to sit and "whine" to someone about your problems. I misunderstood. It is unbelievably helpful to have a professional with whom you build a good relationship, to call you out on your BS and encourage you to feel your feelings instead of eating to suppress them (if that's what you do - it's what I do). Cannot recommend strongly enough, and think it should be mandatory for before and after WLS.
