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6 days post op and 0 lbs lost
Tony B - NJ replied to BariBlonde's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Just give it time. It is way to early to be worrying about weight. With the water weight that they pumped into you after surgery, it will take a while to shed that and you will see the pounds fall off. Be patient...it will happen soon. -
6 days post op and 0 lbs lost
kcuster83 replied to BariBlonde's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
100% normal. Water weight from IV fluids, swelling, or body adjusting. A lot of people gain weight. All a sudden you will drop a large amount and be like WHOA and then it will balance out. Few lbs a week until you hit stalls. -
Please tell me I haven't failed.
lizonaplane replied to (Deleted through replacement's topic in Endoscopic Sleeve Gastroplasty Forum
You should reach out to your doctor about your progress and your concerns, and ask them what their suggestions are. Should you maybe try a medication? Eat more? Exercise more? Do weight lifting? Drink more fluids? Etc. -
Going to the gym VSG post-op (CONFUSED)
lizonaplane replied to Vivis's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
That surgeon you posted the video on - he's interested in shocking people and being contrarian. He's not YOUR surgeon, he's never met or examined YOU and he doesn't know YOUR history. I think people here have posted a lot of excellent points. I was not cleared for lifting weights until 4 weeks out, when I was cleared for everything. However, I had not been doing much besides walking and swimming until that point. As @Arabesque said, exercise will not reduce your loose skin. It's just basically something you will or will not have to deal with, but most likely, you will have loose skin. Exercise is great for overall health, and weight lifting is good to reduce the amount of muscle mass you lose after surgery, but it's a minor part of your weight loss. it's better for keeping weight off long term. -
Please tell me I haven't failed.
(Deleted through replacement replied to (Deleted through replacement's topic in Endoscopic Sleeve Gastroplasty Forum
I say "think" because I'm not like, weighing my food. That makes me neurotic and ain't nobody got time for that level of panic. I do record what I eat and drink. I have to balance absolutely hating myself whenever I think about weight (and yes I'm in therapy, this hasn't gone away despite like a decade of work on it) with actually managing to count calories. Your earlier post: Is it really "fatphobic" to not like the way fat looks? I really don't think so. People have preferences. You can't be attracted to everyone. I have zero health issues related to my weight (several doctors can attest), and so if it weren't about vanity, I wouldn't be doing any of this, I'd be eating a damn cupcake the way I want to. As for timeline: My doctor says if I haven't lost at least 15% in a year, it's not enough. I see a dietician monthly. The thing is, since my scale kept showing slightly lower numbers, and they were good lower numbers, we all thought what was happening was fine. I actually settled into a life that I liked, even eating less food. But I can't really go any less, or cut out any more things I like, without running into "now this is a drain on my daily mental resources," which I can't afford to have. I already have depression and anxiety going on. I have a difficult career. I can't do much more. -
Please tell me I haven't failed.
lizonaplane replied to (Deleted through replacement's topic in Endoscopic Sleeve Gastroplasty Forum
That internalized fat-phobia is difficult to deal with. I struggle with it too. But I'm really confused by your timeline. You had surgery in March 2021? And you've lost 36lb? So, how much weight did your surgery center expect you to lose in that time? I don't know about ESG, but with sleeve, I was told I would lose most of the weight in the first year, and that I could expect to lose about 60-70 lbs, give or take. Were you weighing yourself every week/day at home? I really think you need to reach out to your surgery center (virtually is fine!) and see if you are on target, and if not, if they have any recommendations. There are medications that you can take, and there might be a role for a nutritionist to see what food changes they might recommend. Maybe you're not eating enough? We are just guessing here. You need to talk to a professional. -
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(Deleted through replacement replied to (Deleted through replacement's topic in Endoscopic Sleeve Gastroplasty Forum
251 is the post cleanse weight, meaning I had everything purged from my system to prep for surgery. My home scale agreed with that. Idk what my "has food/waste in system" weight was. My scale said 210 when I had food poisoning a week ago, so I guess the work scale would have said 220-225. So that's like, 32 lbs to be charitable, under the same conditions. -
Please tell me I haven't failed.
lizonaplane replied to (Deleted through replacement's topic in Endoscopic Sleeve Gastroplasty Forum
If you weight 215 lbs, 1200 calories IS a deficit. You're doing what you can. You can be pretty at any weight, and October is a LONG way off. Try to focus on how your clothes are fitting and not a number on the scale. Try not to panic, and if people here are being unhelpful, take a break. Try to reach out to a bariatric therapist if your surgery center has one - I am seeing mine tomorrow virtually and it really helps. The actual weight isn't so important. -
Tell me why the sleeve worked for you when other diets didn't.
lizonaplane replied to lizkey88's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I never had a problem losing weight - I lost, 50, 80, 100 lbs before, but I always gained it back. I've lost 115 lbs so far (50 before surgery, 65 since) and I can't say for sure that I will be able to keep it off, but the odds are definitely better because surgery is supposed to lower you metabolic set point, i.e., the weight your body is comfortable at. I know that I CAN'T eat a lot right now, as long as I'm eating the RIGHT foods. It hurts to eat too much, so it's a big disincentive to overeat. Of course, it's up to me to choose healthy foods, and right now, I'm doing that most of the time (the goal isn't to be perfect!). -
6 days post op and 0 lbs lost
lizonaplane replied to BariBlonde's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
You often gain up to 10 lbs in the hospital from all the fluids they pump you full of, so it can take up to two weeks to start seeing any weight loss. You WILL lose weight - you just need to be patient. There are lots of "stalls" along your journey where you won't lose weight for a few weeks and may even gain a pound or two for a few days. Hang in there! -
Just curious if anyone else has experienced this? I'm not necessarily upset about the lack of weight loss, but rather concerned since I'm under 450 calories per day and drinking my 64oz water for the most part. It just seems odd to me.
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May Surgery Buddies
sprukop0924 replied to The Traveler's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Good luck tomorrow! I'll see you on the other side of this! I have to be at the hospital at 5:30 am tomorrow! Getting VERY nervous! Also hoping I've shrunk my liver enough. Scale has hardly moved this week even though I haven't cheated at all! Hoping its just muscle gain since I've been going to the gym all week. -
Going to the gym VSG post-op (CONFUSED)
Queen ApisM replied to Vivis's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Prior to surgery I was working with a trainer 2x a week for many years. We did a combo of strength training (sometimes with heavy weights), balance, cardio, flexibility. At 2 weeks out, I could not have handled hard workouts. I did start walking more and focused on that for my exercise for the first two months, until I could get up to 800-1000 calories consistently. My program wanted us to be active as soon as possible, but did not want us doing hard workouts if we were not getting at minimum, 800 cals, and ideally more than that. In fact, I’m now 9/10 months out and that calorie expectation is more like 1500 cals on workout days (a bit less, like 1300, is ok on non-workout days). Having said that, I think going hard at 2 weeks post op is unwise. You are still healing inside for quite a while still. You aren’t taking in many calories and it is incredibly hard to do so even if you want to. Maybe focus on easy movement, like walking more, for a while longer. Once your cals increase and you are further into recovery, you can expand your horizons with exercise. For me, that was around 2 months. I scaled back what I’d been doing previously (mostly using slightly lighter weights and we were careful with the ab work for a while) but I quickly was back to where I was. Personally, I’m not just exercising for weight loss. It’s to strengthen my heart, keep my muscles in good shape, strengthen my bones, release stress and tension. I absolutely would never wait to get to or close to goal to start exercising. There are so many important things that come from exercise that have nothing at all to do with weight loss. -
Please tell me I haven't failed.
Splenda replied to (Deleted through replacement's topic in Endoscopic Sleeve Gastroplasty Forum
This may sound like a weird question, but which scale did you use to determine your starting weight? Here is what I mean: if the 251 mark is based on your home scale and your home scale is off by 15 pounds, doesn't that mean you started at 266 on the work scale? -
Going to the gym VSG post-op (CONFUSED)
Happy Stylist replied to Vivis's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I'm 2 weeks post-op and I was told to walk 30 mins a day and do light weights or resistant bands. I'm walking 2.5 miles in 40 minutes. Slow and study at this point for me. -
Please tell me I haven't failed.
I♡BypassedMyPhatAss♡ replied to (Deleted through replacement's topic in Endoscopic Sleeve Gastroplasty Forum
I'm not very familiar with sleeve in general, but doesn't sleeve plications offer a lesser amount of weight loss than the standard sleeve surgery? Maybe because the standard sleeve surgery removes the part of the stomach that produces ghrelin, that gives them the added power of hormone regulation, so maybe that's why you've loss less weight? You didn't have any alteration in hunger hormone. Perhaps this is why you seem to have lost less weight than you were expecting? Nonetheless I'd reach out to your team about what to do next. Best wishes. -
Going to the gym VSG post-op (CONFUSED)
Hop_Scotch replied to Vivis's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Regardless of weight loss surgery, 7 days a week doing weights seems a little over the top (unless you a doing some type of combo upper/lower splits). While cleared two weeks post op, it doesn't mean you should be doing the same routine and particularly the same weights as prior to surgery, even if you felt okay. You aren't getting a lot of nutrition and you are unlikely to be able to sustain the intensity Take a step back, give your body time to heal. Do some walking for another couple of weeks, not big power walks. Consider moderation. At the most for weights two to three days per week per muscle group for a few months once you get back into weights. Don't burn yourself trying re-establish pre op exercise baselines immediately. -
Going to the gym VSG post-op (CONFUSED)
Tony B - NJ replied to Vivis's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Think about this as a whole body approach. We are not just trying to cut calories and lose a little weight, we are looking to lose weight, change our lifestyles and get more healthy. I have watched a lot of Dr. Vong and while he says he is anti exercise, I really think he is referring to doing cardio for an hour a day because it is hard to compensate for all the calorie loss. That said, I don't think he or any doctor is going to tell you to not exercise at all. You have to get the body moving and assist with the calorie deficit, build muscle and get healthy. Walking a few miles a day is NOT cardio and it must be done to get the body in shape and help lose weight and build muscle. In the sense that someone said that exercise does not prevent loose skin I agree but exercise DOES build muscle which can fill some of that void that the fat vacates. I walk nearly 5 miles per day and ride bike weather permitting 3-4 times a week. I have lost 105 pounds in 8 months and 14 inches around my waist. It is working so I am going to continue it. Part of this whole process is weight loss and feeling physically better. Exercise is crucial in that process. -
Please tell me I haven't failed.
Tony B - NJ replied to (Deleted through replacement's topic in Endoscopic Sleeve Gastroplasty Forum
So, I hate to be a wet blanket here and I know everyone is trying to be supportive, but to get major weight loss surgery and after a year being only 22 pounds lighter seems to me to be a bit of a failure....I am just being brutally honest. Part of supporting people is to sometimes tell them the truth and try to get them to take action. If I were in the same situation, I would go back to a low calorie, high protein, low fat, low/no carb diet and get exercising ASAP. The fact is, there has to be a calorie deficit and it we are gaining weight back, there is an issue with that deficit. Maybe we are not counting all our calories....maybe we are not counting at all......maybe we are doing ZERO exercise......maybe a lot of things but what we do know is that it is not working and we are gaining weight. It is time to reevaluate EVERYTHING and get back to what made weight come of in the first place. -
Please tell me I haven't failed.
winkydinks replied to (Deleted through replacement's topic in Endoscopic Sleeve Gastroplasty Forum
Stop. Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. Take a deep breath. In fact, take three. Working yourself into a frenzy isn't going to help anything. Now let's evaluate. It sounds like the scale at work is accurate based on your "test" of it. Try your scale at home again, and if it's wildly off, chuck it out. It's broken. So, with that being said, it sounds like you're 235 lbs. Now we have to figure out why that is so we can begin changing it. First of all, as a 5'5 woman, 1200 calories is hardly a deficit in the long-term. It may be initially, but your body will adjust, and your metabolism will slow to compensate. Nowadays, it may even be a bit more than you need. My surgeon, who was a pioneer in bariatric surgery and has done thousands of procedures, said that most people only need 1000-1500 calories a day. There are obvious exceptions for athletes and whatnot, but generally speaking, that's the rule for both men and women. Now, I know you don't want to hear me simply tell you to eat less. However, if you can find a couple hundred calories to cut out from your current diet, it definitely won't hurt. To me, it sounds like your body found a comfort zone with 1200 a day and whatever level of activity you have, and it stopped dropping weight as a result. Just to be sure though, are you POSITIVE you're only eating 1200 calories a day? There are hidden calories everywhere. Passing by the candy dish at work a couple times a day, oil in the pan, a glass of wine with dinner, cream and sugar in your coffee, etc, will all add up. Now, as someone who just got himself out of a stall by doing this, here's going to be my biggest suggestion. You've heard it before, it isn't sexy, but it works. Cut whatever amount of carbs you're eating by at least 50% and get rid of anything made with flour or sugar entirely. You're only supposed to be eating 1000-1200 calories a day, and you can't afford to spend them on starch. You may feel like crap for a week, but I guarantee you that you won't feel like crap when you see the number on the scale going down. Plus, it's also incredibly easy to end up eating far more calories than you intended when you're eating this stuff. It takes most people 3-4 bites to eat a 200 calorie serving of pasta. -
Please tell me I haven't failed.
Arabesque replied to (Deleted through replacement's topic in Endoscopic Sleeve Gastroplasty Forum
First thing to remember is you’ve lost weight & inches. Whoo hoo. Celebrate each one of those pounds & inches. Secondly we all lose at our own rate. There is no one correct amount of weight you have to lose by a certain date. There can’t be as we’re not the same. My physiological make up & medical history is different to yours & everyone else's. There are just averages which should be only be used as a guide to what’s possible not what’s a certainty. Some people are just slow losers & some lose more quickly. Certainly the more you have to lose the faster you lose at first. 1200 calories seems to be quite a common goal for those who are given one & it’s not based on height but is generally considered a low calorie diet. As long as you’re following your plan you’re on the right path. Scales can be different. They are just machines. Even things like the floor they’re on can affect their accuracy. I weigh differently on my scales, my doctor’s scale & my surgeon’s scale. Some of that is what I’m wearing, time of day, whether I’ve pooped, eaten, etc. They keep their starting & progress records & I keep mine. I don’t compare what their scales say to what mine does. As long as the numbers were going down in their records I was happy (now as long as it’s stable I’m happy). Unless you weighed yourself on the work scales at the very beginning you can’t place value in what they say now - nothing to compare it to. You likely would have weighed heavier on them back then too. So have you failed & f*cked up? No! PS - Hate to tell you 5’5” is not short but is about average height. In fact in the US the average height for an adult woman is 5’4”. -
Going to the gym VSG post-op (CONFUSED)
Arabesque replied to Vivis's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Yes, it’s always best to follow your surgeon’s advice but you also have to consider what you are able to do. Have to admit I’m surprised you are able to weight lift so soon after surgery given the weight restrictions we’re given. I could only lift/carry 5-10kgs the first fortnight then 10-20 the next fortnight. Many of us are advised just to walk to begin but 🤷🏻♀️. There are lots of benefits to regular exercise but the truth is exercise will only contribute 10-20% of the weight you have to lose. So if you have to lose 100lbs, exercise will account for only 10-20lbs. I barely exercised at all & I not only reached goal but exceeded it. But that was my choice. And exercising doesn’t help to reduce the amount of loose skin you’ll have. That’s dependent upon factors like age, gender, genetics, how much weight you have to lose, how long you were at the higher weight & your weight loss/gain history. Loose skin is about your skin being stretched out & it’s ability to retract back. That’s the elastane in your skin not your muscles. My friend & fellow sleever is a keen cyclist (100-200km a week) has rock hard thighs of steel but she still has all her loose skin. Best advice is to listen to your body & do what you are capable of & comfortable doing. -
Tell me why the sleeve worked for you when other diets didn't.
Arabesque replied to lizkey88's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Certainly the physical limitations do help. But the real benefit was giving me the time to reassess what I ate, how I ate & why I ate. To make new eating habits. My appetite really didn’t start to come back until well into my second year & my restriction still works at three years out. The boost to my extremely slack metabolism also helped & while it’s not as fast now as it was during that first year, the reset certainly helps me to maintain. One of the biggest changes was when I finished a diet in the past I went back to eating the same way I always had so the weight would come right back. This time I didn’t go back to my old habits. I eat very differently now. I worked out a way to eat that is right for me & is enjoyable, nutritious & sustainable (the longevity of being able to stick to it). I could be very restrictive about what & when I ate in the past & spent a lot of time thinking about eating or not eating. The restrictive aspects of those old diets weren’t sustainable & felt like I was punishing myself. A lot of my relationship with food has changed. I don’t feel like I’m missing out on anything. I still enjoy food - flavour, texture, etc. but that adage of eating to live not living to eat is very real for me. -
Weight loss/increase 2 weeks post-op?
321 Lift Off replied to Vivis's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hi Vivis, I am six weeks postop. I had a stall in weeks 2 and 3, but I started to lose again in week 4. It was tough. However, despite the stall, my total weight loss, as well as average weekly weight loss to date, is on track with statistics I have seen. So, please do not worry. The posts above are awesome and wish I had them a few weeks ago! I am writing to add that it was comforting to me during my stall to read as many prior posts as I could about the "three-week stall." Type "stall" into the search engine above and there are about 17,000 reassuring posts! Every post made such a difference to me. -
98% ready, then the 2% doubt starts creeping in....
ShoppGirl replied to lizkey88's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Most people are able to drink water relatively normal before they are a year out. It will be advised that you always chew your food well and eat slower because it allows you to get that full signal from your brain before you overeat but I don’t think everyone still chews 30 times at a year out. I know I don’t but I didn’t ever have issues with food going down. I chewed it really well through all the post op phases but by the time I got to normal foods I was only eating a little slower then I did pre op. I think I am the exception though in that. i get what you are saying about the risk. I am a little younger but I was a lower BMI as well. I was a 35 BMI when I started the process. A little Less at time of surgery. I was just beginning to get knee pain with heavy exercise though and I was steadily gaining like 5-10 pounds a year despite the yo yo diets so I knew it was just a matter of time before that started to limit me physically. I wanted to get ahead of it. It was also limiting me going out and doing things I enjoy simply because I felt uncomfortable or couldn’t find clothes I felt comfortable in, etc. I decided that life is too short to stay locked in the house not liking myself if there was another option. I am over a year out now. Down 55 pounds and couldn’t be happier that I did the surgery.
