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Do you ever "forget" you had surgery?
BigSue replied to lizonaplane's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I’m almost 2 years post op and I still kind of feel like my life revolves around my surgery. Not my surgery per se, but everything related to maintaining my weight loss. I spend so much time and energy preparing and eating food. I think so much about what I should eat and constantly have to decide how to “spend” my calories. I constantly analyze whether I’m hungry or full or head hungry. I spend so much time working out. I have to remember to take all my supplements at the right times (since some of them interfere with each other and/or my thyroid medication). It is exhausting! And I often wonder how sustainable this is. On the upside, though, I try to remember that being morbidity obese was also exhausting! I was constantly worrying about people judging my weight, whether I could fit into chairs or spaces, arriving everywhere early to make sure I wouldn’t have to squeeze between people, hiding what and how much I ate because people were judging (actually, I still hate being watched while I eat, still feel judged, even though I’m eating quite healthy), sweating all the time, etc. So either way, my life revolved around my weight, and on the balance, this side of it is better. But yeah, for me, every day still feels like a struggle. -
Sometimes the truth hurts
lizonaplane replied to Tony B - NJ's topic in Endoscopic Sleeve Gastroplasty Forum
As I said on the original thread, you were right, and I apologize. I just err on the side of taking people at their word. She said she was eating 1200 calories, and I know there are people who don't lose weight well after surgery - but I didn't realize that the weight loss with ESG is really kinda low anyway. So, she just chose the wrong surgery and her head wasn't in the right place, as she made clear in her later responses. I still don't think tough love is the best strategy for most people, but it sounds like she really needed further work on herself before she went through with ANY surgery. Again, my apologies for attacking you yesterday. -
Please tell me I haven't failed.
Tony B - NJ replied to (Deleted through replacement's topic in Endoscopic Sleeve Gastroplasty Forum
I was attacked for being honest with this person because I saw what you all saw recently right from the beginning. This person wanted the easy way out, would not weight food, would not give up Indian Food, wanted to have her desserts etc, etc. Case Rested. This was either a troll or someone who just does not want to do what it takes to be succesful and wants to blame it on the surgery, others, human nature etc. -
Achieving your goals and rewarding yourself
lizonaplane replied to fourmonthspreop's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
I keep seeing variations on this theme here, and I never know what I would reward myself with. Partly because I'm so fortunate to have enough money that I can buy and do most things I really want. But also, I tend to be a spur-of-the-moment shopper/planner, so if I see something, and I can afford, and I want it, I buy it, or book the trip (a lot more of the latter, as travel is my passion). Of course, I'm not buying designer clothes. I'm more a thrift store, LL Bean, Chico's shopper. I do buy crafts, especially jewelry and ceramics, but again, I just buy stuff when I go to a craft show and never thought of it as a reward. I can't imagine getting a tattoo or plastic surgery (Not a fan of pain). I sort of agree with @FutureSylph - the weight loss is its own reward. I love that I can shop in regular stores now, but honestly, I'm not all that excited about the clothes they're selling. I love that I can fit more comfortably places, and walk faster. Maybe I'll think of something. I'm open to suggestions... -
Achieving your goals and rewarding yourself
Arabesque replied to fourmonthspreop's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Some people get tattoos, go on holidays, buy jewellery, etc. as rewards but they weren’t for me. Clothing, shoes & bags are my passion. I didn’t reward myself as such I just shopped. Not that I needed an excuse. 😆😆 I so loved being able to buy the clothing labels I’d always wanted to buy or had bought when I’d been at a lower weight. I’d kept some of those clothes. (The old one day I’ll fit into them again thinking.) I was so excited when I was able to wear some of them but unfortunately about a month later they’d be too big. Or I simply missed my window to wear them. I would suggest you wait to buy a big ticket clothing item until your weight is stable. I have several high end pieces I bought at goal that are one or two sizes too big because I continued to lose. At least that’s not an issue with handbags except some of my old bags are too large for my smaller frame now. I do want to see pxt of you in your coat when you do buy it @fourmonthspreop & your LV handbag @SleeveDiva2022. -
Achieving your goals and rewarding yourself
fourmonthspreop posted a topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Was just thinking since I have my 3 month post op follow up tomorrow, dreaming of my 1 year post op and the weight I'll lose. I've had, since the beginning of this whole journey, the idea to reward myself with a designer trench coat when I reach my goal weight. I'd ideally like to be 195 lbs but I'm starting with 220 for now because of my doctor's suggestions and recommendations. I think if I'm between 215 and 195 I'd give myself the reward. Anyway, I'm soooo dreaming of buying a designer coat when I reach that weight. Having one of those "imagine" nights. So I wanna know, do you or did you have a big item or thing in mind you wanna (or did) reward yourself with once you achieve your goal weight? What was it? Sent from my SM-G975U using BariatricPal mobile app -
Sometimes the truth hurts
Sunshine Princess replied to Tony B - NJ's topic in Endoscopic Sleeve Gastroplasty Forum
I read the thread and I’m sorry but there’s too many people who think they’re being supportive when in reality, it’s enabling. This process is tough and yes, sometimes in weight loss there are tough messages that need to be delivered. You stayed your case using data, facts, and logic. Your responses were not emotional. I’d rather surround myself on this journey with helpful people instead of enablers. -
February 2022 Surgery Buddies
Lorilea replied to MeganMyers's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I keep putting off working out but I have been planting a lot of flowers and working in the yard so I would think that kind of counts. My weight hasn’t budged for almost four weeks. It is very frustrating. I don’t eat much at all and when I do I normally end up getting sick later. I feel like it has been three very LONG months. I am just now starting to bounce back from horrible depression and anxiety. -
February 2022 Surgery Buddies
fourmonthspreop replied to MeganMyers's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Coming up on my 3 month this Saturday. Crazy how fast it goes. Weight is coming off every week. I have on and off days with eating. Sometimes I can barely take 2 bites, sometimes I can eat a cup of food in one meal. But I'm happy with my progress. I really want to start working out again. I manage long walks but nothing high intensity. My arms are getting so saggy. I dream of getting the skin removed on them. Sent from my SM-G975U using BariatricPal mobile app -
I went to the 1 week post-op appointment and actually gained 10lb the dr said it was normal fluid air and stuff but by the next appointment I was down 25 from original number. So I think it'll catch up for you Sent from my SM-A716U using BariatricPal mobile app
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Please tell me I haven't failed.
I♡BypassedMyPhatAss♡ replied to (Deleted through replacement's topic in Endoscopic Sleeve Gastroplasty Forum
This was an interesting thread and it took an unexpected turn. I would like to dedicate this thread to all of the non-weight loss surgery folks that say weight loss surgery is the easy way out. They could learn a lot by reading this thread. -
Before and After Pics
fourmonthspreop replied to Roserie's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Tomorrow is my 3 month surgery anniversary. I've lost over 70 lbs on this journey through the pre and post op phases. The before pic is not even from my highest weight, that was about mid 2020 but I got up to the 340s at one point. Today I'm proud to say I fit back into a non plus size XL. From an XXXXL/22 to XL! I'm so happy to see the results beyond the scale. I tried on two new shirts today to check my progress and was shocked to see them fitting. Sent from my SM-G975U using BariatricPal mobile app -
Please tell me I haven't failed.
lizonaplane replied to (Deleted through replacement's topic in Endoscopic Sleeve Gastroplasty Forum
1. Restaurants: I eat out about 90% of my meals because I travel for work. I just think carefully about what I'm eating and I stop when I've had enough. 2. Sweets: You just... have to make some changes in order to get the results you want. I have always had a sweet tooth, made worse by medications I take for bipolar disorder... but... I try not to eat sweets much now, and when I do, I use sugar free sweets or have a tiny piece. I CAN eat too much sweets without my restriction kicking in. It's up to me to make the choice that aligns with my goals for long term weight loss 3. Nice food: I love nice food. I just don't need to make it the only thing in my life anymore. I enjoy almost all of my meals, especially when I can enjoy them with friends or family, but it's not the only thing in my life (and I'm Italian!). It kinda sounds like you want to have your cake and eat the whole thing - you can't eat every single thing as much as you want and lose weight, and only have a surgery that is less effective, and not take time off from work, and not like fat people and not weigh your food... We all want it all, but it's just not possible. I would love to have NOT had this surgery that makes me uncomfortable all the time. But I wanted to be thin. I think you really haven't made up your mind what it is you want yet. -
I wasn't hungry at all for 11 days post op. But the last 4 days I have been. I know it's hungry, I can tell the difference between just grumbling vs growling. My stomach does both now. My weight loss is very slow coming off too. I get to start soft foods in a couple of days. Im looking forward to it.
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Please tell me I haven't failed.
SleeveToBypass2023 replied to (Deleted through replacement's topic in Endoscopic Sleeve Gastroplasty Forum
If I'm honest, I think part of the problem is that you went into this for the wrong reasons, and because of that, you don't have the motivation to do the work necessary to get the results you want. It sounds like you wanted a miracle cure that would melt the weight off without you having to make any sacrifices or changes, and it just doesn't work that way. Granted, the surgery you chose doesn't have the results others do, but it does still produce results if you work the program. But you sound resistant to any of the suggestions being given, unless someone else does it for you. You have to take accountability for yourself, what and how you eat, and the pitfalls and successes you have. You get out what you put in. I don't think your doctors were correct in letting you have a WLS knowing your psychological issues and that you only wanted it for vanity's sake. This is a major step that requires lifelong changes. Those who transition know that and are ready and willing to make the changes to live in the bodies they always believed they should have. But transitioning isn't about vanity. It's about feeling and believing you are a different gender and getting the procedures done to make their outside match their insides. I believe you can do this. And I believe you want it. But you will have to find the motivation and the desire to do the work and help yourself before it will work. The results you want are 100% within reach, as long as you're willing to change your mindset and do the work. And I know you can, if you want it bad enough. -
One more try before surgery again
Spinoza replied to Erin18's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I don't think anyone here will tell you you don't need surgery and instead you need to eat more healthily! Most of us have been exactly where you are. My one regret about my sleeve is that I didn't do it many years ago and save myself years of yo-yoing and stress and obesity and self-loathing. My advice would very much be to forego the final attempt to lose weight and keep it off, given the tiny chances of success long term. I say cut to the chase and see your bariatric surgeon again and tool yourself up! Good luck whatever you decide. -
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Starwarsandcupcakes replied to (Deleted through replacement's topic in Endoscopic Sleeve Gastroplasty Forum
This is going to be long so bear with me. First, let’s do the numbers. Your starting weight post clean out was 251. Your weight now on that same-ish scale is 215, that’s a 36lb loss. With ESG the average weight loss is about 10-20% of total body weight at a year meaning at 251lbs your average for 10-20% would be 25.1-50.2. Your actual weight loss is 36 for 14.34%. With ESG the total percentage of total body weight loss at 5 years from one study of 203 patients is only about 14.5% if follow up with providers is recurring most saw their biggest amount lost at 2 years post ESG. It seems that you’re on track for what that study suggests. I wouldn’t sweat it too much. Secondly, however I do want to offer some suggestions for food. Focusing on high volume, low calorie foods can offer bulk because you’ll have more to chew. For example- A 100g of cucumber is only 15 calories while 100g of cooked pasta is 160. If you miss pasta try tofu shirataki noodles- an entire 8oz package is about 20 calories depending on brand. These can sit a bit heavy though depending on the person. Salads full of leafy greens, fruits and vegetables with minimal dressing can help you feel full. They also provide crunch which I myself enjoy. Season your food!- bland food can be boring and unfulfilling and loads of “diet” food recipes lack flavor. Adding spices can help make things you’re eating more enjoyable and trick your brain into being satisfied quicker. Try roasted chickpeas- 1 can chickpeas drained and rinsed then tossed with garlic powder, paprika, onion powder, and chili powder (if you tolerate spicy) with a tsp of olive oil then baked at 350°F for about 25 minutes makes a great topping for salads while providing protein and fiber, both of which help keep you full. Lastly, make sure you’re following your clinic’s guidelines for liquids before and after meals. Drinking too soon after eating can make you feel hungry sooner and sabotage your hard work. If you can’t bear the thought of giving up liquids with all your meals try soup! Broth based soups are a great way to get in fluids, vegetables, protein, and flavor.- 65 replies
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(Deleted through replacement replied to (Deleted through replacement's topic in Endoscopic Sleeve Gastroplasty Forum
Revision: it takes a month to recover from an actual sleeve, and I have way too fast-paced a job to do that. I'd probably have to take unpaid leave or even quit the job. I can't. ESG was only a thing I could do because it had a week recovery time tops. If the sleeve had a week recovery, I'd have done that instead. Regarding vanity: They know. They have all my medical stats. They know my blood pressure is something that people aspire to, that my labs are clean as a whistle, and that I can drag a kayak a mile through choppy waters to shore or walk 10 miles straight for 3 hours. They know I have major psychological issues surrounding my body. I've seen a therapist for over a decade for in part this reason. It hasn't made me like how I look whatsoever, just helped me cope enough to have a reasonable life. I'm on several psych meds. As it stands, I have a view on this that is similar to transition. When you have gender dysphoria, people who are any kind of sane by modern science don't tell you to suck it up and go to therapy to embrace being your birth sex. They tell you to seek hormone treatments and transition, because transition works. I don't think that trying to love being fat works either. You change your body if you want to change your body. I'm going to cut back to 1000 cal/day goal and hate my life, but I guess it's something. And I mean technically I guess I have lost like 30 lbs worst case. I'm just so pissed and dismayed that I haven't gotten below pre-pandemic weight before my wedding. I want to be Internet Hot (tm) at my wedding. -
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SleeveToBypass2023 replied to (Deleted through replacement's topic in Endoscopic Sleeve Gastroplasty Forum
This is really the part that concerns me out of everything on here. Vanity alone should never be a reason to put yourself and your body though these kinds of physical changes and major surgery. I know you don't like how you looked, but WLS isn't for vanity. It's for those who are suffering from health issues and are obese and who can't lose weight and keep it off any other way. Did you have to do any kind of psych eval or pre surgery therapy? Did your doctors know you only wanted the surgery to improve your looks? -
Going to the gym VSG post-op (CONFUSED)
ms.sss replied to Vivis's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I was cleared for all exercise at 1 month. With that said, i didn’t start going “hard” until about 3 months post. Up until then, it was all walking. Staring around 3 months i started doing some sort of exercise for roughly 2 hours a day combined (and i mean some sort of activity that raised my heart rate to my optimum level for at least 45 continuous mins and/or some sort of strength training) I was able to do this while consuming less than 700 cals during weight loss phase. BUT i had a ridiculous amount of energy (dont really know where it came from), and I listened to my body and did not push further than what was reasonably comfortable (for ME). Everyone is different and only YOU can say when too much is too much. Try a little bit at a time and keep making decisions on whether to keep going, slow it down, or stop altogether. Your body (and labs) will tell you. And of course, let your team know what you ate doing. Even if it doesn’t contribute to your weight loss, you will still reap the benefits of regular exercise (i.e., FEELING GOOD) Now RE: lose skin. I can honestly say that I was probably in the best shape of my life (with some serious muscles) around 2 yrs post and i STILL had loose skin in areas (well, at least the areas that I didn’t plastics-surgery away). I would have had to gain and equal amount of volume in muscle to replace the fat I lost to fill it all in. And that would have been unrealistic and maybe even impossible. Not to mention, personally, i was not interested in looking like a body builder (respect to those who do). It really is up to you what kind of look/feeling you are going for, and what you are willing to do to achieve it. This early on though, i would give the insignificant opinion to focus on weight loss and nutrition for now. Good Luck! ❤️ -
Sometimes the truth hurts
Healthy4longerlife replied to Tony B - NJ's topic in Endoscopic Sleeve Gastroplasty Forum
I read the 3 pages on the original post you are referring to. And I have to agree with you on this. I understand people want support, but your original reply to the article was not rude, you tried your best to say it in a nice way. If people just want support with whatever their results are they anything we do in life is okay. I agree we all need to be positive , but if someone has a surgery that went far from what was planned as far as results, something needs to change, maybe a revision surgery, a change in the diet, see a therapist to deal with the demons we all have. You seemed to be more helpful than most on that chat that are just cheering on anything as its greaaaaaattt like tony the tiger. I really wish the OP of that chat a very successful weight loss journey. -
6 days post op and 0 lbs lost
kcuster83 replied to BariBlonde's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
If you have a calorie deficit you will loose weight. Point blank. Doesn't matter what you eat as long as it is less calories than you burn. Eating healthy is for other benefits, like some health problems. (Heart health) If you eat 500 calories of bacon a day, you might have a heart attack but you will still loose weight. My nutritionist actually calculated out mine at my last appointment, including how much weight a week I would loose based on the deficit. I am eating 17,500 LESS calories a week than my body needs to maintain my current weight. I was completely shocked. As you loose weight, the gap lessons but no matter what, a deficit means weight loss. Don't obsess, it happens if you are following the plan for sure. -
Sometimes the truth hurts
lizonaplane replied to Tony B - NJ's topic in Endoscopic Sleeve Gastroplasty Forum
Maybe YOU feel better when people are giving you tough love, but most people do not. Most people find "supportive" comments make them more inclined to change their behavior. And, you were probably struggling with your weight for years before surgery. Did anyone "telling you the truth about how you're doing everything wrong" cause you to meaningfully start eating healthier and exercising more? If it did, you wouldn't have ended up getting surgery. There is so much scientific literature that shows that BULLYING is not helpful. Telling people that they MUST be doing everything wrong or else they'd have great results is NEVER going to make someone change their behavior, and it ASSUMES that there is something wrong with what they are doing. Since you are not their doctor and have not examined them, and you do not follow them around all day watching what they eat and do, you can only assume that she is doing everything wrong; you really have no evidence, and I know there are a lot of people who do everything right and still don't loose much weight. JUST STOP BEING MEAN AND UNHELPFUL- 24 replies
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I♡BypassedMyPhatAss♡ replied to (Deleted through replacement's topic in Endoscopic Sleeve Gastroplasty Forum
The reason I brought up the Sleeve Plication being different than the standard sleeve surgery is because I wanted to stress that not all weight loss surgeries are equal. After reading more about Sleeve Plication, it sounds a lot like the Lap Band, as in it doesn't do anything except give restriction... and neither surgery offers any changes to hormones. As a former Lap Band patient I personally know how much of a failure Lap Band is for a lot of people. You put in the work, but a majority of people with them never achieve their goal weight. Some surgeries are more powerful than others. So I feel like you're putting in the required work to lose weight, but it might be the surgery itself just isn't powerful enough. I felt like that about the Lap Band when I had it. I watched others lose much faster and more weight than me. It was very frustrating. I'd give the Wegovy a try when it becomes available. And there's an option to block people here. I find it helpful to not even read the Negative Nancy's. 😉 -
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Queen ApisM replied to (Deleted through replacement's topic in Endoscopic Sleeve Gastroplasty Forum
There is a lot of advice re: the scale and weight issue. Talk to your center and see what they have to say/think. I'm going to focus on something else: I weighed your starting weight at my wedding, and I looked flipping amazing. It was my wedding. I was marrying the man I love and who loves me. All my family and friends were there and they were all happy for me. I look at pictures from then, and somehow, I do not complain that I looked fat, even though I certainly was still obese. I normally hate most pictures of myself, but I don't feel that way about my wedding because all I can is the happiness from the day and just revel in the happy memories. I am so excited just to get BACK to my wedding weight, much less lower than that. I say this not to center attention on me, or make you feel bad, but to make the point that you shouldn't fixate on a certain number to make you beautiful or worthy for your wedding. You will have a beautiful day. Clearly, someone loves you and wants to marry you at your original weight, much less at your current one or some future one. Perhaps focus on that, because stressing over a number before your wedding isn't going to increase the likelihood of hitting that goal. In fact, quite the opposite.
